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Title: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 14, 2011, 04:35:10 pm
This is going to get ugly, real bad news for Jeff I am afraid.

"Two big names are also expected to testify: Jeff Bagwell, the former Astros player and alleged boyfriend of Rachel Brown, and the owners of the upscale Festari For Men clothing store near the Galleria. "

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8353970
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Limey on September 14, 2011, 04:56:05 pm
Here's a much more lascivious report on the trial (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/09/a_butt-dialed_voicemail_allege.php), sans Baggy reference.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: hostros7 on September 14, 2011, 04:59:51 pm
Well:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=rachel+brown+houston&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1261&bih=592&tbm=isch&tbnid=yVAUx4KJEFpORM:&imgrefurl=http://culturemap.com/newsdetail/12-31-10-houston-best-dressed-moments-of-2010/&docid=vKx9UAGO6r0rzM&w=800&h=600&ei=PyJxTpK9Hc-2tgfX9pXpCQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=422&page=1&tbnh=114&tbnw=168&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0&tx=57&ty=72

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=rachel+brown+houston&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1261&bih=592&tbm=isch&tbnid=2KAcseCUB0YiwM:&imgrefurl=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/&docid=dStL6GC-ldvKpM&w=308&h=430&ei=PyJxTpK9Hc-2tgfX9pXpCQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=229&page=4&tbnh=116&tbnw=86&start=71&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:18,s:71&tx=73&ty=98

I think she was just trying to send out a silent cry for help. 

Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Phil_in_CS on September 14, 2011, 05:01:17 pm
Sometimes I'm pleased to a have a simple, somewhat boring life.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Limey on September 14, 2011, 05:10:05 pm
Sometimes I'm pleased to a have a simple, somewhat boring life.

Such things are made easier by not becoming the 4th spouse of a convicted wifebeater / cocaine user.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Lurch on September 14, 2011, 05:52:14 pm
Such things are made easier by not becoming the 4th spouse of a convicted wifebeater / cocaine user.

Well, sure, in hindsight
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Alkie on September 14, 2011, 07:28:15 pm
Anyone that doesn't know Jeff Bagwell fucks around yet clearly hasn't been paying much attention.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Waldo on September 14, 2011, 07:34:59 pm
Anyone that doesn't know Jeff Bagwell fucks around yet clearly hasn't been paying much attention.

Right on cue.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: chuck on September 14, 2011, 07:47:47 pm
Right on cue.

It's almost like this was all an elaborate set-up.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: austro on September 14, 2011, 07:56:00 pm
It's almost like this was all an elaborate set-up.

Elaborate?
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Alkie on September 14, 2011, 08:16:53 pm
Right on cue.

Let me guess.   You don't think he was on roids either?
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on September 14, 2011, 08:20:22 pm
Anyone that doesn't know Jeff Bagwell fucks around yet clearly hasn't been paying much attention.

I'm just glad he wasn't getting 'roids from the Brown Hand Doctor.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Astroholic on September 15, 2011, 08:48:36 am
I'm just glad he wasn't getting 'roids from the Brown Hand Doctor.
or was he?
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Waldo on September 15, 2011, 09:19:14 am
Let me guess.   You don't think he was on roids either?

Just pointing out that you've never passed up an opportunity to enlighten us all.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Alkie on September 15, 2011, 09:36:44 am
Just pointing out that you've never passed up an opportunity to enlighten us all.

Yes.   All three times in 12 years.   Wowwee.   Does this keep you up at night?
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: ValpoCory on September 15, 2011, 09:51:50 am
This isn't good news for Bagwell's chances at the Hall of Fame.  The whole "moral high ground" defense to the steroid allegations may be gone.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: ValpoCory on September 15, 2011, 09:53:33 am
By far the best part of the article ...

Quote
She said she confronted her husband after a "pocket dial" made unintentionally from his phone a day earlier left a message in which he seemed to be flirting with another woman.

The couple began yelling at each other, Rachel Brown said, and her husband became enraged. She said he chased her through their home, throwing heavy crystal vases and a humanitarian award at her.

"He picked up a vase, and threw it at my head," she said on the witness stand. "He threw two vases at me and threw one on the floor."

The altercation, witnessed by the couple's three children, was broken up by a bodyguard who had standing instructions to break up the couple's fights.

So many things.  Can't choose.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Limey on September 15, 2011, 10:05:58 am
In case anyone gives a shit (Miss Limey does, which is how I know), the inaugural season of "Real Housewives of Houston" was shelved because of Brown's assault on his wife, who was the star attraction of the show.  I understand that the season was in the can (NTTAWWT), so it may yet surface to give us all an inside view of the madness of this marriage.

They may have to move it from Bravo to HBO, however.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: jbm on September 15, 2011, 10:20:19 am
This isn't good news for Bagwell's chances at the Hall of Fame.  The whole "moral high ground" defense to the steroid allegations may be gone.

Forgive my ignorance.  Bagwell was this woman's boyfriend while she was married, while he was married, while both were married, or while neither were married?
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: BudGirl on September 15, 2011, 10:21:48 am
I believe Bagwell is no longer married.  But, it seems like their relationship was while both were married.

Not sure how this really affects induction into the hall of fame.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: ValpoCory on September 15, 2011, 10:34:11 am
Quote
Not sure how this really affects induction into the hall of fame.

It should have nothing to do with it, assuming rational people are voting for the Hall of Fame.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on September 15, 2011, 10:34:29 am
I believe Bagwell is no longer married.

Is this recent?  Now that I think on it, not sure why I care.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: BudGirl on September 15, 2011, 10:35:34 am
Is this recent?  Now that I think on it, not sure why I care.

Rumor in the seats at MMP, relatively recent.  Is anyone really surprised?
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: hostros7 on September 15, 2011, 10:37:41 am
It should have nothing to do with it, assuming rational people are voting for the Hall of Fame.

Mickey fucking Mantle, yo.  Fidelity ain't got nothing to do with it.*

* standard considerations for HOF inclusion do not apply to Yankees.  
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Don on September 15, 2011, 10:52:55 am
Rumor in the seats at MMP, relatively recent.  Is anyone really surprised?

Ericka filed against him last October.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Ebby Calvin on September 15, 2011, 11:03:55 am
It should have nothing to do with it, assuming rational people are voting for the Hall of Fame.

Then he's screwed.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: BudGirl on September 15, 2011, 11:08:42 am
Then he's screwed.

That's been most of this discussion.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 15, 2011, 12:51:06 pm
This is turning into a Melrose Place episode. 
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on September 15, 2011, 12:59:39 pm
This is turning into a Melrose Place episode. 

Turning into??
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 15, 2011, 01:36:34 pm
From the Chron

When reached today, Erica Bagwell said she filed for divorce from her husband in September 2010.

"I did file for divorce a year ago," Erica told the Houston Chronicle. "It's just not been made public."
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 15, 2011, 01:37:06 pm
I can't believe that the news of Bagwell/Erica's divorce stayed under wraps for so long.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: BudGirl on September 15, 2011, 01:39:22 pm
I know. You'd think Jeff or Erica would have posted something.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Limey on September 15, 2011, 01:59:18 pm
I know. You'd think Jeff or Erica would have posted something.

Or tried to sell advertising space on Erica's tits.

Thanks Gerry.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on September 15, 2011, 02:34:43 pm
Give him some credit for marrying a woman with more class than the first Mrs. Jeff Bagwell.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: EasTexAstro on September 15, 2011, 02:43:45 pm
Or tried to sell advertising space on Erica's tits.

Thanks Gerry.

I would buy spa....


I can't do it. It was on the tee, but I can't.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Waldo on September 15, 2011, 04:33:02 pm
I would buy spa....


I can't do it. It was on the teet, but I can't.

FIFY
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: JimR on September 15, 2011, 04:46:28 pm
FIFY

very slow day in the TZ
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: EasTexAstro on September 15, 2011, 04:49:27 pm
very slow day in the TeatZone

FIFY
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: strosrays on September 15, 2011, 09:44:36 pm
Give him some credit for marrying a woman with more class than the first Mrs. Jeff Bagwell.

Fie on you, I say.  Fie!

Physical beauty is a prison of sorts. Not only does the possessor become a prisoner of the power to obtain anything that one may desire in life; but it also builds impermeable walls that prevent anyone that one may choose to love from experiencing the true components of one's soul.  Human nature can sometimes be the catalyst for introspective thought; it becomes easy for one to beset and strive for the demise of another's dreams when we are aware of our own limits, as the aforementioned being's aspirations serve as a brutal reminder of all that we fear. I think that one's life isn't defined by the people who love them, but by the ones whom they love.

The best part of this story for me (so far), besides being reminded of Shaun Bagwell's fake tits philosophy of life, is that one of the objects Dr. Brown used to try and clock his wife with was a humanitarian award he had won.  Just beautiful.

I wonder who the hell awarded it to him?
Title: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: geezerdonk on September 16, 2011, 09:35:09 am
So it seems that at least sometimes Bagwell does bag well.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: ValpoCory on September 16, 2011, 09:39:04 am
The whole divorce news sheds some light on the hitting coach situation of last year, and Jeff saying he needed to be with his kids more.     I bet there's a chance he's not done in the coaching foray, as he goes and the new routine gets more comfortable.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Limey on September 16, 2011, 10:20:08 am
The whole divorce news sheds some light on the hitting coach situation of last year, and Jeff saying he needed to be with his kids more.     I bet there's a chance he's not done in the coaching foray, as he goes and the new routine gets more comfortable.

Every year he gets older, every year the road groupies stay the same age...
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Lefty on September 19, 2011, 04:31:27 pm
I wonder who the hell awarded it to him?

Gandhi?
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Bench on September 20, 2011, 11:31:22 am
Not guilty.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Jury-rules-Michael-Brown-not-guilty-in-assault-2178728.php
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Ron Brand on September 20, 2011, 12:04:40 pm
Dick DeGuerin is a badass.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Bench on September 20, 2011, 01:09:32 pm
Dick DeGuerin is a badass.

It's a big win.  I figured once the prosecution managed to get the prior wife-beating into evidence, Brown would be toast.

Edit:  Looks like they didn't get the prior wife-beating in, but just the fact that he pleaded no contest to an assault charge.  
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Lurch on September 20, 2011, 01:18:44 pm
Couldn't they have just shown the commercial?  I've not read any testimony, seen any evidence, or even taken the time to understand what this trial is about, but I've seen the commercial enough times to know that crazy eyed wacko is guilty as fuck.  For god's sake, has anyone checked in on that poor daddy's little girl?
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 20, 2011, 01:30:01 pm
Or the fact that he is a cokehead.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Noe on September 20, 2011, 02:14:40 pm
And is a hair club for men reject!
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Limey on September 21, 2011, 01:08:04 pm
From the jurors comments, they acquitted him because they didn't like her very much.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: subnuclear on September 21, 2011, 01:09:47 pm
From the jurors comments, they acquitted him because they didn't like her very much.

They didn't believe her when she said she didn't use curse words during the confrontation. That's a weird thing to say.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 21, 2011, 01:32:22 pm
From the jurors comments, they acquitted him because they didn't like her very much.

Kind of like how they acquitted Casey Anthony because they didn't like her father.
Title: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: geezerdonk on September 21, 2011, 01:37:15 pm
It is not possible to underestimate the stupity of a jury.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Limey on September 21, 2011, 02:17:16 pm
Kind of like how they acquitted Casey Anthony because they didn't like her father.

Different circumstances.  The voting jurors in the Anthony trial concentrated on the evidence, or lack thereof, and not on the fact that Casey was a shitty mother.  This lot have been saying that they didn't believe that she didn't swear at her husband - because they would have.

This is a new slant in jury selection that prosecutors will have to deal with going forward: finding a jury who think like your main witness.
Title: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: geezerdonk on September 21, 2011, 02:49:51 pm
finding a jury who that can think
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 26, 2011, 04:42:39 pm
That Michael Brown seems like one fucked up dude.  this shit is disturbing.

Letters to his daughters, which includes this line, "You two are genetically programmed with such___intelligence as to make most cower in disbelief. How, fucking ever you too unfortunately have your mothers genetic constitution to be unbelievably cold hearted bitches...I am sorry for fucking your mother instead of someone else."

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/09/dr_browns_letters_to_sophie_vo.php
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Mr. Happy on September 26, 2011, 04:52:05 pm
That Michael Brown seems like one fucked up dude.  this shit is disturbing.

Letters to his daughters, which includes this line, "You two are genetically programmed with such___intelligence as to make most cower in disbelief. How, fucking ever you too unfortunately have your mothers genetic constitution to be unbelievably cold hearted bitches...I am sorry for fucking your mother instead of someone else."

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/09/dr_browns_letters_to_sophie_vo.php

CPS should be called in immediately. He should be on supervised visitation only. That is mental child abuse.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 26, 2011, 05:13:32 pm
He is rumored to be a huge cokehead too, so I am sure that plays into things.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Limey on February 07, 2013, 01:46:11 pm
Just when you thought it was safe to go back into 1st class (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2013/02/michael_brown_choking_flight_attendants.php)...

Quote
Upon noticing the incident, flight attendant "T.A.T" left the galley to assist "V.E." Brown released "V.E." and grabbed [both flight attendants] around the neck area, using each of his forearms. Brown told [the attendants] that he was going to get naked in front of the passengers and then began making rude sexual comments about what he was going to do to them....
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: AtascAstro on February 07, 2013, 02:57:44 pm
CPS should be called in immediately. He should be on supervised visitation only. That is mental child abuse.

He was for previous divorce settlements, not sure about the latest.  Dude is nuts.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Limey on March 25, 2013, 04:12:14 pm
Dr. Brown doesn't like the food in jail (http://www.click2houston.com/news/Michael-Brown-claims-jail-food-made-him-ill/-/1735978/19453562/-/format/rss_2.0/-/k7cioiz/-/index.html).
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Fredia on March 25, 2013, 04:46:27 pm
i do not cook for the prision systen
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 25, 2013, 05:21:58 pm
Dr. Brown doesn't like the food in jail (http://www.click2houston.com/news/Michael-Brown-claims-jail-food-made-him-ill/-/1735978/19453562/-/format/rss_2.0/-/k7cioiz/-/index.html).

Couldn't happen to a bigger creep.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on March 25, 2013, 06:42:09 pm
But, but, he cares for his family. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eruabiSHHRA)
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Craig on March 25, 2013, 09:43:12 pm
Jail food made Dr. Brown sick, huh?

Daddy's Baby Hurl!
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: The Spleen on March 25, 2013, 11:25:21 pm
Jail food made Dr. Brown sick, huh?

So who's going to get beaten with a bowling trophy for this latest outrage?
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Bench on April 01, 2013, 01:50:10 pm
And he's out. (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2013/04/michael_brown_release_jail.php)  Basically so he can pay his and his wife's lawyers, which is really the most important thing I can think of.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Limey on November 08, 2013, 10:50:36 am
Well, it's a weird end to a weird story.  Dr. Brown died in hospital today (http://www.click2houston.com/news/sources-dr-michael-brown-dies-after-taken-off-life-support-at-miami-hospital/-/1735978/22870466/-/crt62hz/-/index.html).

I heard on the radio last week, after he had his heart attack, that a concern of many was that he'd stashed away unknown amounts of cash where only he knew how to find it.  He may have taken that information with him to his grave.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Bench on November 08, 2013, 10:55:12 am
Well, it's a weird end to a weird story.  Dr. Brown died in hospital today (http://www.click2houston.com/news/sources-dr-michael-brown-dies-after-taken-off-life-support-at-miami-hospital/-/1735978/22870466/-/crt62hz/-/index.html).

I heard on the radio last week, after he had his heart attack, that a concern of many was that he'd stashed away unknown amounts of cash where only he knew how to find it.  He may have taken that information with him to his grave.

The death could have been the result of an attempted suicide. (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2013/11/police_michael_brown_attempted.php)
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Ebby Calvin on November 08, 2013, 01:12:05 pm
The death could have been the result of an attempted suicide. (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2013/11/police_michael_brown_attempted.php)

Not to be picky, but FIFY?
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Bench on November 08, 2013, 01:37:54 pm
Not to be picky, but FIFY?

Intervening cause?
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Limey on November 08, 2013, 01:40:31 pm
Not to be picky, but FIFY?

[Golf clap]
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Limey on November 08, 2013, 01:46:17 pm
Intervening cause?

Brown's death ruled a suicide (http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=9318455).
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Bench on November 08, 2013, 11:16:06 pm
Enjoy "noted appellate attorney" Brian Wice (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2013/11/sources_michael_brown_is_dead.php?page=3) (who is a uniquely skilled attorney but is renowned for this type of public statement):

"And his problem, as noted legal sage [Notorious B.I.G] said, 'the more money he had, the more problems'....And unfortunately, there was this lethal mixture of money, alcohol, controlled substances, and women who we probably wouldn't take home for a Shabbat dinner. And the bottom line is that Mike went out on his own terms. And while it's been said that, you know, suicide is the ultimate act of self-indulgence...

...And I just think it's tragic that a divorce that became as toxic as this one did ultimately resulted in a death sentence for him."
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on November 09, 2013, 06:25:08 am
Seems it ended according to the script. A fitting end for a pusillanimous cur.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Mr. Happy on November 09, 2013, 07:42:12 am
Seems it ended according to the script. A fitting end for a pusillanimous cur.

I'm certain that he was mentally ill.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on November 09, 2013, 08:27:55 am
I'm certain that he was mentally ill.
Aren't we all just a little bit crazy?
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Mr. Happy on November 09, 2013, 09:31:24 am
Aren't we all just a little bit crazy?

True, but this guy was off the rails. His story has some parallels to my own. Thankfully, I came through it.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Navin R Johnson on November 09, 2013, 09:55:18 am
I'm just glad Dr Brown didn't take 2 or 3 people with him.  Suicide was probably the best possible end to this story.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Mr. Happy on November 09, 2013, 10:00:34 am
I'm just glad Dr Brown didn't take 2 or 3 people with him.  Suicide was probably the best possible end to this story.

I agree.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: homer on November 09, 2013, 03:27:04 pm
True, but this guy was off the rails. His story has some parallels to my own. Thankfully, I came through it.

I'm pretty sure you're still nuts.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Bench on November 09, 2013, 04:28:59 pm
I'm pretty sure you're still nuts.

"+1"
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: NeilT on November 09, 2013, 05:35:18 pm
I'm pretty sure you're still nuts.

There's some difference between likable nuts and the ex-doctor Brown.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Mr. Happy on November 09, 2013, 05:43:46 pm
I'm pretty sure you're still nuts.

Touche, Homer. I was much worse years ago.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Phil_in_CS on November 10, 2013, 08:39:55 am
Touche, Homer. I was much worse years ago.

There's being destructive, and being functional. We're all nuts, but moving from destructive (as in the late and unlamented Dr. Brown) towards being functional is what we're called to do. Getting beyond functional to contributing is our life's work.

Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: strosrays on November 10, 2013, 08:57:53 am
It's the easiest thing in the world, to take yourself out.

Fuck him. He's gone.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Mr. Happy on November 10, 2013, 11:15:28 am
It's the easiest thing in the world, to take yourself out.



I don't know about that. I tried twice to overdose and failed miserably.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: NeilT on November 10, 2013, 11:34:18 am
I don't know about that. I tried twice to overdose and failed miserably.

That's good.  Thanks for failing.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Mr. Happy on November 10, 2013, 11:59:39 am
That's good.  Thanks for failing.

Thank you, Counselor. The thing that I learned about suicide is that it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. It is the ultimate selfish act because the impact on those who survive is dramatic and lifelong.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: strosrays on November 10, 2013, 12:16:33 pm
Thank you, Counselor. The thing that I learned about suicide is that it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. It is the ultimate selfish act because the impact on those who survive is dramatic and lifelong.

That was pretty much my point.

This selfish act will reverberate, on some level, forever. He can go to hell.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: MusicMan on November 11, 2013, 09:51:09 am
This selfish act will reverberate, on some level, forever. He can go to hell.

I believe my doctrine says he has to.
Title: Re: Bagwell's name brought up at the Dr Michael Brown trial.
Post by: Bench on November 11, 2013, 09:53:28 am
I believe my doctrine says he has to.

For many more offenses than mere suicide.