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General Discussion => Beer and Queso => Topic started by: Lurch on September 11, 2011, 01:12:01 pm
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Holy shit, what a half! I get that the Colts don't have Peyton, but was he on their D line, too?
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Greatest half ever? Greatest half ever.
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Ridiculous, and now a punt return for a TD. There will be some day later this year when we'll need to remember this half.
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Don't get too excited. The Colts are the worst team in the league if they don't have Manning.
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It's really going to suck when Luck goes to Indy.
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Even in victory, Schaub looks shaky.
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Even in victory, Schaub looks shaky.
Silly Texan fan. Game ain't over yit.
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Even in victory, Schaub looks shaky.
It's also apparent that they still can't cover anybody.
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The Texans have all kinds of problems but 1-0 against a division foe is a hell of a lot better than 0-1.
I am very surprised by several of the games this weekend. I certainly did not have Buffalo whipping the shit out of KC. Wow. Chicago blowing out Atlanta? I didn't see that either. I expected Baltimore to win at home but Pittsburgh looks as bad as I've seen them in forever. One thing that does not surprise me is Detroit's beating up on Ty's Bucs. I've been telling anyone who would listen (surprisingly few in number) that Detroit is going to be good. Not win the division good, but at the very least go on the road and beat bad teams good.
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Great first half, sloppy, sloppy second half. Kubiak still can't stay off his dick. Lot's of improvement needed if they don't want to end with 6 wins again. But a win's a win. Victory cigar time.
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The Texans have all kinds of problems but 1-0 against a division foe is a hell of a lot better than 0-1.
I am very surprised by several of the games this weekend. I certainly did not have Buffalo whipping the shit out of KC. Wow. Chicago blowing out Atlanta? I didn't see that either. I expected Baltimore to win at home but Pittsburgh looks as bad as I've seen them in forever. One thing that does not surprise me is Detroit's beating up on Ty's Bucs. I've been telling anyone who would listen (surprisingly few in number) that Detroit is going to be good. Not win the division good, but at the very least go on the road and beat bad teams good.
national jump-to-conclusions week begins
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So I debase myself by rooting for the Cowboys and they proceed to lose in a spectacularly idiotic fashion. That's sort of like drunkenly and significantly lowering your standards and then getting the clap out of the deal.
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So I debase myself by rooting for the Cowboys and they proceed to lose in a spectacularly idiotic fashion. That's sort of like drunkenly and significantly lowering your standards and then getting the clap out of the deal.
Seemed like the way the Texans lose, doesn't it?
Same shit, different year (Romo wise).
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Seemed like the way the Texans lose, doesn't it?
I found it very familiar, yes.
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So I debase myself by rooting for the Cowboys and they proceed to lose in a spectacularly idiotic fashion. That's sort of like drunkenly and significantly lowering your standards and then getting the clap out of the deal.
I was rooting against the Jets. And was incredibly disappointed.
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Seemed like the way the Texans lose, doesn't it?
Same shit, different year (Romo wise).
Yes. Similar to Shaub and Kubiak. If you are optimistic, or apparently foolish, you can convince yourself that they have turned the corner, only to realize that those things don't change.
I'm sure there are many examples of players and coaches overcoming their boneheadedness, but it seems like most orgs are optimistic and rarely cut bait too early and instead wait too long.
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That's sort of like drunkenly and significantly lowering your standards and then getting the clap out of the deal.
Apropos to a Tony Romo team.
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Yes. Similar to Shaub and Kubiak. If you are optimistic, or apparently foolish, you can convince yourself that they have turned the corner, only to realize that those things don't change.
Both Schaub and Kubiak are what they are. Schaub is capable. Kubiak is a football moron. They have enough talent to overcome the latter, but he's not turning the corner on anything. He is what he is...someone who can coach 12-win talent to 10 wins.
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Both Schaub and Kubiak are what they are. Schaub is capable. Kubiak is a football moron. They have enough talent to overcome the latter, but he's not turning the corner on anything. He is what he is...someone who can coach 12-win talent to 10 wins.
I think you are just a bit off, there. Kubiak is not a football moron, he is quite capable as an OC...he is a gameday moron (as a HC). And, I will take the over on 10 wins - Baltimore and NO may be the only games you guys will not be favored in for the remainder of the year - but I understand your line of thinking.
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I think you are just a bit off, there. Kubiak is not a football moron, he is quite capable as an OC...he is a gameday moron (as a HC). And, I will take the over on 10 wins - Baltimore and NO may be the only games you guys will not be favored in for the remainder of the year - but I understand your line of thinking.
Favored or not, I see the Texans winning 10 games. I think they'll struggle with NO, PIT, BAL, ATL, plus they'll split with IND and JAX. My prediction, not my hope. Of course, they should have easily won 10, if not 11 or 12, games last year.
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I think they'll struggle with NO, PIT, BAL, ATL, plus they'll split with IND and JAX.
I think you can add Miami and Tampa to this list. The TOs yesterday were not impressive. My hope is that Schaub was just rusty because he wasn't that accurate with his passes.
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Baltimore is going to run the train on them.
I don't think Indy can win because I don't think Manning's coming back this year.
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I think you can add Miami and Tampa to this list. The TOs yesterday were not impressive. My hope is that Schaub was just rusty because he wasn't that accurate with his passes.
Schaub was a little rusty, but he also is not a really accurate passer, and he doesn't always make good decisions, especially under pressure. He's going to throw interceptions, and a good many will be at really inopportune times. He is what he is. But as long as he isn't asked to do to much (read: Kubiak doesn't inexplicably decide to stop running the ball down the other team's collective throat), he'll be perfectly serviceable.
But you're right, two turnovers in the 4Q is simply unacceptable, if this team wants to make the playoffs.
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Baltimore is going to run the train on them.
I don't think Indy can win because I don't think Manning's coming back this year.
Yesterday the Colts' offense didn't suffer from just a lack of Manning, but also from the dumbing down required because Collins has only been there two weeks. They only had half of their playbook even available to them. That will change with time, even without Manning. I don't expect they'll be world beaters without him, but they won't be as discombobulated as they were yesterday.
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Yesterday the Colts' offense didn't suffer from just a lack of Manning, but also from the dumbing down required because Collins has only been there two weeks. They only had half of their playbook even available to them. That will change with time, even without Manning. I don't expect they'll be world beaters without him, but they won't be as discombobulated as they were yesterday.
The Texan's defense might improve a little, too, once they get more accustomed to Wade's schemes. I think they took it down a notch or two in the second half, too. Not quite prevent on defense, but trying to keep the ball in the middle of the field and let the clock wind down. I couldn't believe the Texans going to the sidelines as much as they did instead of falling and letting the clock run/keeping from getting hurt.
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Schaub was a little rusty, but he also is not a really accurate passer, and he doesn't always make good decisions, especially under pressure. He's going to throw interceptions, and a good many will be at really inopportune times. He is what he is. But as long as he isn't asked to do to much (read: Kubiak doesn't inexplicably decide to stop running the ball down the other team's collective throat), he'll be perfectly serviceable.
But you're right, two turnovers in the 4Q is simply unacceptable, if this team wants to make the playoffs.
Schaub was saved by some fine receiving. He was high, he was behind, he was just plain off. I am not a Schaub basher, but he looked rough quite a bit yesterday.
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The Texan's defense might improve a little, too, once they get more accustomed to Wade's schemes.
Nope. Not possible. Kubiak, something, his dick, something, loss.
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Yesterday the Colts' offense didn't suffer from just a lack of Manning, but also from the dumbing down required because Collins has only been there two weeks. They only had half of their playbook even available to them. That will change with time, even without Manning. I don't expect they'll be world beaters without him, but they won't be as discombobulated as they were yesterday.
Small detail... Kerry Collins is terrible.
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The Texan's defense might improve a little, too, once they get more accustomed to Wade's schemes. I think they took it down a notch or two in the second half, too. Not quite prevent on defense, but trying to keep the ball in the middle of the field and let the clock wind down. I couldn't believe the Texans going to the sidelines as much as they did instead of falling and letting the clock run/keeping from getting hurt.
They played the defensive scrubs for a good part of the second half yesterday, so that didn't bother me too much. The turnover, and Kubiak's dick-stepping play calling were big negatives though.
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Nope. Not possible. Kubiak, something, his dick, something, loss.
That is very likely. See: lack of a control offense in the 2nd half. They were still trying to open it up when they could have been trying to frustrate the Colts with good ball control.
Of course, I say that right after criticizing Schaub's accuracy and timing, so I should just shut up.
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Small detail... Kerry Collins is terrible.
I wouldn't say he's terrible. He's as slow as you and me put together (or something like that), but he's still got a strong, accurate arm. Plus I know the rest of the offense isn't terrible. Given more time, I think the Colts' offense will be much better by Christmas.
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He's as slow as you and me put together (or something like that),
A drunk glacier?
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Very solid D so far today
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Very solid D so far today
I"m not sold yet.
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Marshall is a pretty significant advantage for Miami.
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Marshall is a pretty significant advantage for Miami.
Meanwhile, their kicker...
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I"m not sold yet.
I'm sold. I'm sold on the fact that the defense is very vulnerable to the run up the middle, and the secondary is scarcely any better than it was last year despite two high profile additions. Kareem Jackson is a joke.
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I'm sold. I'm sold on the fact that the defense is very vulnerable to the run up the middle, and the secondary is scarcely any better than it was last year despite two high profile additions. Kareem Jackson is a joke.
At least we haven't yet seen a 3rd and 20 draw play for a first down.
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At least we haven't yet seen a 3rd and 20 draw play for a first down.
Yet.
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Yet.
Don't worry, Kubiak's already stomping his dick this game. He'll get around to it. So much to fuck up, so little time.
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Someone needs to explain to the Texans what a draw play is. And Jason Allen is pointless on Brandon Marshall. You can't give a guy a 15 yard cushion on the 12 yard line.
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Don't try to run the ball or anything Kubiak...that might lead to positive yardage.
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How do you leave AJ open in the endzone? Thanks
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Man, that wide receiver screen to Casey was a sweet play! If one of the linemen had been aware of the linebacker coming from the backside that would have been a giant play. Kubiak is obviously not without some significant flaws, but play design is not one of them.
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not sure what's worse, the creeping feeling that the texans have blown this game by not scoring TD's in the red zone, or hearing that feeling personified through dan dierdorf's voice.
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not sure what's worse, the creeping feeling that the texans have blown this game by not scoring TD's in the red zone, or hearing that feeling personified through dan dierdorf's voice.
I don't understand a single thing that happened in the possession after the interception.
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2nd and 10, they steamroll the Saints for 6 yards on the ground. 3rd and 4? Let's run some cute little dump-off bullshit that's incomplete. Makes no sense.
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2nd and 10, they steamroll the Saints for 6 yards on the ground. 3rd and 4? Let's run some cute little dump-off bullshit that's incomplete. Makes no sense.
Schaub's doing a terrible job adjusting when his first option is taken away. He's blown three third down passes inside the ten.
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Schaub's doing a terrible job adjusting when his first option is taken away. He's blown three third down passes inside the ten.
Which is par for Schaub. Kubiak's stepped on his dick by not running the ball inside the 10 yard line.
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Which is par for Schaub. Kubiak's stepped on his dick by not running the ball inside the 10 yard line.
both the dump-off to daniels and the bizarre hot route slant to andre (when there was no blitz and andre wasn't expecting the pass) seemed like give-up passes. if the texans lose this game it will be because of mistakes because i can't see what the saints d can do to stop them in the second half.
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both the dump-off to daniels and the bizarre hot route slant to andre (when there was no blitz and andre wasn't expecting the pass) seemed like give-up passes. if the texans lose this game it will be because of mistakes because i can't see what the saints d can do to stop them in the second half.
They can't. The only thing that can stop the Texans offense is Gary Kubiak. Never underestimate his ability.
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They can't. The only thing that can stop the Texans offense is Gary Kubiak. Never underestimate his ability.
this is, to me, the catch-22 about rooting for the texans. they seem on track to finally make the playoffs, but once they get there it's hard not to envision a soul-crushing goal-line stand or schaub pick-six. my worst memory by far as an oiler fan was the loss to montana and the chiefs in the divisional playoff. there were more embarrassing moments to be sure, but that's the one where they were finally the better team and played a better game but just blew it. that's the type of playoff game i see these texans blowing-- a home wildcard game to somebody like the dolphins, bills, raiders, titans, etc.
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this is, to me, the catch-22 about rooting for the texans. they seem on track to finally make the playoffs, but once they get there it's hard not to envision a soul-crushing goal-line stand or schaub pick-six. my worst memory by far as an oiler fan was the loss to montana and the chiefs in the divisional playoff. there were more embarrassing moments to be sure, but that's the one where they were finally the better team and played a better game but just blew it. that's the type of playoff game i see these texans blowing-- a home wildcard game to somebody like the dolphins, bills, raiders, titans, etc.
That's just your own imagination. The Oilers have exactly squat to do with the Texans.
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Well, the Texans have absolutely dominated this game, and are now losing it. First time this season they've been behind.
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You will not beat the Saints kicking field goals. Period.
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Kubiak sure loves the 'handoff to the back-up running back' thing. 2nd and short handoff to slaton destroys the drive.
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You will not beat the Saints kicking field goals. Period.
serious question, what would you do differently on these red zone drives? more running the ball? less fixating on one player?
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serious question, what would you do differently on these red zone drives? more running the ball? less fixating on one player?
You run the fucking ball. The Saints cannot stop the run. Simply cannot. Yet when they've got in the red zone, the've abondoned the run. Schaub is NOT that kind of QB.
This is going to get ugly. Kubiak is going to get slaughtered by Payton in the second half.
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serious question, what would you do differently on these red zone drives? more running the ball? less fixating on one player?
Simple. The answer is always:
Spread the field and run the ball.
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Fuck yeah manning.
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Manning plays a solid center field
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Fuck yeah manning.
two ints of brees plus a punt. texans have scored on every posession. we need 7 points very badly
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two ints of brees plus a punt. texans have scored on every posession. we need 7 points very badly
They've punted at least once.
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They've punted at least once.
you're right. one punt
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How about the Texan fan turnout in NO
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btw, yet another excuse for not winning the division out the window-- kenny britt likely out for the season with knee injury
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Wow.
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THAT was a fucking catch
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woohoo!!!
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Ho-lee shit what a pass and catch.
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That was fucking ridiculous.
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That's a FB. What a weapon.
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What a catch by Casey!
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That's a FB. What a weapon.
I'm really digging Casey at FB. Don't get me wrong, Vonta Leach was a helluva blocker and a good receiver out of the backfield, but that's a dimension that he simply doesn't have.
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I'm really digging Casey at FB. Don't get me wrong, Vonta Leach was a helluva blocker and a good receiver out of the backfield, but that's a dimension that he simply doesn't have.
The stuff they can do motioning him around is a great opportunity for mismatches as well.
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I'm really digging Casey at FB. Don't get me wrong, Vonta Leach was a helluva blocker and a good receiver out of the backfield, but that's a dimension that he simply doesn't have.
Casey's made plays today as a lead blocker, wide receiver, running back, and obviously two huge plays as a receiver out of the backfield. he's done everything but throw a pass-- i need to shut up before i give kubiak ideas.
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Nice to see Mario back out there.
This defense is a great fit for Smith,
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Antonio Smith is damn near unrecognizable in this defense.
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Remember, he was a 3-4 DE when we signed him. Square peg, round hole?
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There are some many new and exciting feelings with this Texan's team - getting a stop on that possesion? Wow.
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he's done everything but throw a pass-- i need to shut up before i give kubiak ideas.
You know I called that weeks ago.
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You know I called that weeks ago.
yes i remember, and we all know that it will happen at some point this year
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You know I called that weeks ago.
If anyone other than Schaub throws a pass, it better be Owen Daniel.
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yes i remember, and we all know that it will happen at some point this year
Not one of my more perspicacious prognostications, no.
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Tate doesn't seem to be much with his hands.
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RUN THE FUCKING BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If anyone other than Schaub throws a pass, it better be Owen Daniel.
It better be Matt Leinart because the team is up by 40 points and Schaub is standing on the sideline in a baseball cap.
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It better be Matt Leinart because the team is up by 40 points and Schaub is standing on the sideline in a baseball cap.
If Leinart's in the game and needs to throw a pass, the Texans are fucked.
Kind of like if they continue to let Kubiak coach.
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Had a chance to put the game away...but stepped on their dicks.
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Ingram's a load. He's going to be a good RB in this league.
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Here we go...
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Here we go...
this is the game right here for the texans. they're fully capable of a long touchdown drive to ice the game. no fucking around, no schaub decision plays.
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Schaub is just not that accurate
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Fuck. I give up. Kubiak is hopeless. Utterly. Fucking. Hopeless.
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this is the game right here for the texans. they're fully capable of a long touchdown drive to ice the game. no fucking around, no schaub decision plays.
dammit kubiak, what did i just say???
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Same old shit
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This is a 13-14-win talent team. Kubiak will squeeze 8 wins out of them.
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Both passes on that drive were to wide open receivers
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Shut the fuck up Jackson. You're getting your lunch eaten.
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Brees is pretty good.
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Twice...TWICE...the Texans had the chance to put the game away if they just run the ball.
I am so fucking sick of Bob McNair not giving a flying FUCK about this team.
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Jackson continues to be terrible.
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Oh now you run. What a dumbfuck.
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Oh now you run. What a dumbfuck.
Gotta kill some clock.
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So now you waste a timeout. Kubiak is in prime form today.
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So now you waste a timeout. Kubiak is in prime form today.
Gotta stop the clock.
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Gotta stop the clock.
I notice you only show up when they Texans step on their dicks. NTTAWWT.
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Well one things for sure, we won't be seeing a fucking field goal on this drive.
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WTF mate.
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Just like they drew it up.
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I notice you only show up when they Texans step on their dicks. NTTAWWT.
You should notice closer, then. I been here the entire game.
If you think I care enough about hating the Texans, you're sorely, sorely mistaken. Frankly, I don't care what they do. Sort of like their owner.
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Schaub, you cannot throw off your back foot. Just forget that idea.
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Schaub, you cannot throw off your back foot. Just forget that idea.
i'm actually starting to warm up to the idea of casey throwing a pass in this game
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Clusterfuck TD.
Too much time left... Time to watch Brees the surgeon.
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Wow.
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No lead is safe as long as Kareem Jackson is on this team.
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Brees is really fucking good at football.
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Kareem Jackson is pretty useless.
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Cushing on Sproles? That's not going to work very well.
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At some point, does it make sense to try to pressure the QB?
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They are trying, it is hard with Brees.
What I don't understand is why they are targeting Joseph of all people.
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They are trying, it is hard with Brees.
Brees is not the problem. It's the lack of guys rushing him.
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Suck.
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Well that was easy.
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I am happy with that actually.
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Plenty of time.
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Now that was fucking embarassing.
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I am happy with that actually.
Yeah, it seemed inevitable. Better that it happen quickly and leave some time on the clock.
Noe, why is Kareem Jackson on this team?
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Same fucking play. Kubiak is getting schooled.
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Ok. Time to see what kind of 2 minute drill we can pull out of our ass.
Moore? Are you fucking kidding me?
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Motherfucker this is a stupid fucking team. THAT WAS THE SAME FUCKING PLAY YOU DUMBFUCKS.
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Vintage Brees. Vintage Texan dickstepping.
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almost 40 points scored so far in the 4th quarter. kubiak allowed this game to turn into a shootout.
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Where is Andre?
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Where is Andre?
probably triple-covered while we force it to our 2nd-string tight end on two consecutive plays with the game on the line
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That was pretty fucking tickytack.
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You gotta be fucking kidding me.
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come on, kubiak! how do you not see that big blitz coming????>??
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It's been real folks.
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Because the Texans don't blitz on 3rd down, it's probably a complete surprise when the opponent does so.
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come on, kubiak! how do you not see that big blitz coming????>??
If the Texans don't have at least a three touchdown lead at half, they don't stand a chance. Every other coach in the league will absolutely work Kubiak over in the second half.
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What time does the Bucs game start?
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Not triple coverage. Quintuple coverage.
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Fucking fuck. Cowboys better lose tomorrow to cheer me up.
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Could've been worse - could've been to Buffalo (see Pats, NE).
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If the Texans don't have at least a three touchdown lead at half, they don't stand a chance. Every other coach in the league will absolutely work Kubiak over in the second half.
Jim Caldwell would like that opportunity
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What time does the Bucs game start?
The Bills are beating the Pats, that should make you somewhat happier.
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The Bills are beating the Pats, that should make you somewhat happier.
Also Pats blew a bigger lead than the Texans I'm pretty sure.
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The Bills are beating the Pats, that should make you somewhat happier.
Why would I give a shit about either of them?
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Save your fucking pity Dierdorf.
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Save your fucking pity Dierdorf.
No shit. It's the NFL. A win's a win and a loss is a loss. Nothing else matters.
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Why would I give a shit about either of them?
You should seriously consider a new team. Following the Texans doesn't seem to agree with you much.
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You should seriously consider a new team. Following the Texans doesn't seem to agree with you much.
Kubiak doesn't agree with me. Any other coach in the league and the Texans win this game handily.
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The Bills are beating the Pats, that should make you somewhat happier.
hearing marv albert call an nfl game is pretty odd
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The defense blows, but Schaub is no leader. He sat on the bench and looked like he was going to cry the whole game, while Brees was animated, involved and energizing himself and his team.
When he fell over at the end, for no reason, then go a tap on the dome and acted like he been poleaxed, he showed his true colours.
This team will win nothing with Schaub.
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The defense blows, but Schaub is no leader. He sat on the bench and looked like he was going to cry the whole game, while Brees was animated, involved and energizing himself and his team.
When he fell over at the end, for no reason, then go a tap on the dome and acted like he been poleaxed, he showed his true colours.
This team will win nothing with Schaub.
Schaub is not the problem. He's a good but not great QB. You can win with him if you keep him doing the stuff he does well. He isn't the type of QB who can sit all day in the pocket in the red zone and rifle the ball through the defense, and certainly not the type who's going to outgun brees in a shootout. our defense certainly isn't designed to win games like that. wade can only patch the holes up the middle and in the secondary for so long.
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Schaub is not the problem. He's a good but not great QB. You can win with him if you keep him doing the stuff he does well. He isn't the type of QB who can sit all day in the pocket in the red zone and rifle the ball through the defense, and certainly not the type who's going to outgun brees in a shootout.
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about heart, desire and leadership - none of which he has.
They can tweak anything they want, but they will never win consistently with the ball in Schaub's hands.
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That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about heart, desire and leadership - none of which he has.
They can tweak anything they want, but they will never win consistently with the ball in Schaub's hands.
You sound like a talk radio caller
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You sound like a talk radio caller
He sounds like a guy who's been paying attention.
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He sounds like a guy who's been paying attention.
are you kidding me? don't be one of these people who plays armchair psychologist and criticizes a player for not acting like some country high school coach on the sidelines. schaub has his faults as a QB, but they didn't lose today because he didn't rah rah it up between drives.
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are you kidding me? don't be one of these people who plays armchair psychologist and criticizes a player for not acting like some country high school coach on the sidelines. schaub has his faults as a QB, but they didn't lose today because he didn't rah rah it up between drives.
Do you really think this is the first game anyone's seen Schaub play?
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They gave up 43 points - end of story on why they lost.
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You sound like a talk radio caller
Joey, why did you change your name?
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They gave up 43 points - end of story on why they lost.
If the team had a competent head coach they could have given up 43 points and still won by at least two touchdowns.
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Joey, why did you change your name?
This is my real name, "Joey" was just an internet message board thing
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This is my real name, "Joey" was just an internet message board thing
I once knew a girl named Rebel. I can't recall her last name but it wasn't Jew.
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I think HH's point about second-half adjustments is a good one. The Texans come out with a good plan to start the game, but they seem to be unable to anticipate how the opponent will adapt to that plan at half-time. It's perplexing.
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I once knew a girl named Rebel. I can't recall her last name but it wasn't Jew.
Yell.
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I once knew a girl named Rebel. I can't recall her last name but it wasn't Jew.
Normally last names like "Goldstein" are good enough tip-offs for your religion, but my parents just cut right to the chase
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I will admit that I misunderestimated Arian Foster's value in comparison with Tate in terms of being a third down option and catching the ball out of the backfield.
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are you kidding me? don't be one of these people who plays armchair psychologist and criticizes a player for not acting like some country high school coach on the sidelines. schaub has his faults as a QB, but they didn't lose today because he didn't rah rah it up between drives.
Inspirational players inspire other players to be better. The QB is the team's leader - if he's parked on a bench not communicating with anything other than his navel, he's not doing his job.
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Inspirational players inspire other players to be better. The QB is the team's leader - if he's parked on a bench not communicating with anything other than his navel, he's not doing his job.
Tim Tebow furiously agrees with you
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They gave up 43 points - end of story on why they lost.
Well, they gave up 40. But 30 of those were in the 2H. Kubiak getting schooled at halftime...again...is the end of story on why they lost.
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I think HH's point about second-half adjustments is a good one. The Texans come out with a good plan to start the game, but they seem to be unable to anticipate how the opponent will adapt to that plan at half-time. It's perplexing.
Not really perplexing. Kubiak simply gets outcoached. Every. Single. Game.
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Not really perplexing. Kubiak simply gets outcoached. Every. Single. Game.
But he doesn't get outcoached at the start. His first-half game plans seem to really take advantage of the other team. I'm forced to conclude that he simply needs a lot of time to figure out his plan.
ETA: Maybe we could lobby for half-time to last a couple of days.
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But he doesn't get outcoached at the start. His first-half game plans seem to really take advantage of the other team. I'm forced to conclude that he simply needs a lot of time to figure out his plan.
1) the Texans have way more talent than most teams. 2) I think you're right in that he seems to be able to plan the first few drives, given a week to prepare. But coaching is about recognizing what the other team is doing and making adjustments. Kubiak simply gets beaten like a drum when it comes to game situations. It's like a baseball manager...filling out the lineup is one thing. Making the right calls in 8th inning is something else.
ETA: couple that with his lack of situational awareness, and he's doomed.
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I chalked this one up as a loss before the season started, but I'm too tired to try and defend Kubiak/Schaub. Same story, different year....
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Well, at least the Bucs won.
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Twice...TWICE...the Texans had the chance to put the game away if they just run the ball.
Could be that Kubiak didn't have faith that his running game would be consistent enough to get it done. And, he'd have been right.
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Joey, why did you change your name?
attention. it worked
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My Saints escaped with a win today.
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Could be that Kubiak didn't have faith that his running game would be consistent enough to get it done. And, he'd have been right.
They ran the ball whenever they wanted to. The simple fact is, Kubiak is a football moron. He is incapable of learning. With any other coach in the league, the Texans win that game by two touchdowns.
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They ran the ball whenever they wanted to.
No they didn't. 25 rushes total. 14 of those were for 3 yards or less (and only one of those was for 3 yards). That's more than half gained almost nothing. They ripped several big runs to get the bulk of their yardage, but they were completely inconsistent. I don't know if the blocking was inconsistent or if the Saints knew what was coming or if Kubiak's run play calling was terrible, but they certainly weren't running at will.
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No they didn't. 25 rushes total. 14 of those were for 3 yards or less (and only one of those was for 3 yards). That's more than half gained almost nothing. They ripped several big runs to get the bulk of their yardage, but they were completely inconsistent. I don't know if the blocking was inconsistent or if the Saints knew what was coming or if Kubiak's run play calling was terrible, but they certainly weren't running at will.
A hallmark of a Kubiak offense is running the ball out of obvious running formations: two back sets, two tight end sets, etc. As you surely know the Texans have an undersized offensive line that is built for zone blocking. It is hopeless to ask this sort of line to blow a front seven or eight off the line of scrimmage.
Late in the season two years ago they suddenly discovered that spreading the field with Arian Foster and letting him run the ball yields results. Arian had his coming-out party against the Patriots when they ran the ball with tremendous success out of three and four wide receiver sets.
I recognize that Ben Tate is not Arian Foster, but it doesn't really matter who is in the backfield. The Texans cannot run the ball out of traditional running formations. They can run the ball, and very effectively, out of spread formations.
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Things reaffirmed/learned:
- Schaub is not a playmaker, just a cog in an offense with weapons
- Kubiak is consistently outcoached
- Kareem Jackson is still terrible
- Ben Tate is not fine; this team needs Foster
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No they didn't. 25 rushes total. 14 of those were for 3 yards or less (and only one of those was for 3 yards). That's more than half gained almost nothing. They ripped several big runs to get the bulk of their yardage, but they were completely inconsistent. I don't know if the blocking was inconsistent or if the Saints knew what was coming or if Kubiak's run play calling was terrible, but they certainly weren't running at will.
Whenever they made up their mind to run the ball on first down, they were successful. When they tried to run in obvious running situations, they struggled a bit. But that doesn't mean they couldn't run the ball.
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A hallmark of a Kubiak offense is running the ball out of obvious running formations: two back sets, two tight end sets, etc. As you surely know the Texans have an undersized offensive line that is built for zone blocking. It is hopeless to ask this sort of line to blow a front seven or eight off the line of scrimmage.
Late in the season two years ago they suddenly discovered that spreading the field with Arian Foster and letting him run the ball yields results. Arian had his coming-out party against the Patriots when they ran the ball with tremendous success out of three and four wide receiver sets.
I recognize that Ben Tate is not Arian Foster, but it doesn't really matter who is in the backfield. The Texans cannot run the ball out of traditional running formations. They can run the ball, and very effectively, out of spread formations.
The problem then is that inside the 10 the entire defense, safety's included, are within 15 yards of the line of scrimmage. Spreading them out works laterally, to some extent, but not vertically.
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Things reaffirmed/learned:
- Schaub is not a playmaker, just a cog in an offense with weapons
- Kubiak is consistently outcoached
- Kareem Jackson is still terrible
- Ben Tate is not fine; this team needs Foster
I agree with all except the last one. Tate is fine. He's not Foster, but he's certainly serviceable in that offense.
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The problem then is that inside the 10 the entire defense, safety's included, are within 15 yards of the line of scrimmage. Spreading them out works laterally, to some extent, but not vertically.
This Texans team is not built to run inside the 10 yard line. They simply cannot lineup and blow people off the line, which is what you have to do in the NFL. They can have some success running wide, but three yards and a cloud of dust is not in their playbook.
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I agree with all except the last one. Tate is fine. He's not Foster, but he's certainly serviceable in that offense.
I don't think it's a coincidence that when Foster plays the red zone offense doesn't struggle. Before and after Foster, the offense cannot convert. Tate is a level below Foster in pretty much everything: speed, burst, vision, elusive moves, pass catching, pass blocking.
Tate is fine, but this team needs Foster to hide the other problems.
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Whenever they made up their mind to run the ball on first down, they were successful. When they tried to run in obvious running situations, they struggled a bit. But that doesn't mean they couldn't run the ball.
No they weren't. 1st down runs:
6 yards from the N 32
2 yards from the H 14
11 yards from the N 11
1 yard from the H 37
1 yard from the N 34
0 yards from the N 14
2 yards from the H 48 on 1st and 5
8 yards from the N 25
8 yards from the N 30
0 yards from the H 20
11 rushes on first down, 7 for less than 3 yards.
I think the big runs have skewed the viewers (myself included until I looked at the boxscores) perception.
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This Texans team is not built to run inside the 10 yard line. They simply cannot lineup and blow people off the line, which is what you have to do in the NFL. They can have some success running wide, but three yards and a cloud of dust is not in their playbook.
Then that, as you've been saying, is on the coach.
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No they weren't. 1st down runs:
6 yards from the N 32
2 yards from the H 14
11 yards from the N 11
1 yard from the H 37
1 yard from the N 34
0 yards from the N 14
2 yards from the H 48 on 1st and 5
8 yards from the N 25
8 yards from the N 30
0 yards from the H 20
11 rushes on first down, 7 for less than 3 yards.
I think the big runs have skewed the viewers (myself included until I looked at the boxscores) perception.
I don't know what kind of football you've been watching, but that's pretty fucking good in the NFL. If you expect them to go for 6 or 8 yards a carry, every single time, well, no wonder you think what you do. This isn't OU vs. SW Hill Valley State.
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I don't know what kind of football you've been watching, but that's pretty fucking good in the NFL. If you expect them to go for 6 or 8 yards a carry, every single time, well, no wonder you think what you do. This isn't OU vs. SW Hill Valley State.
I don't know if 3.9 yards/carry is "pretty fucking good", but it is okay.
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I don't know what kind of football you've been watching, but that's pretty fucking good in the NFL. If you expect them to go for 6 or 8 yards a carry, every single time, well, no wonder you think what you do. This isn't OU vs. SW Hill Valley State.
A consistent 3-4 yard output is fine but not up and down. How do run in the red zone if you have no idea if your back to going to get 0 or 8 which is what was happening yesterday.
The Texans had 7 carries that resulted in 8 or more yards to total 76 of their 109 yards rushing. That means the other 18 carries netted just 33 yards. That's inconsistent.
I agree they're potent, but you have no idea what you're going to get from play to play.
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I don't know if 3.9 yards/carry is "pretty fucking good", but it is okay.
In this case the average doesn't tell the story.
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I don't know what kind of football you've been watching, but that's pretty fucking good in the NFL. If you expect them to go for 6 or 8 yards a carry, every single time, well, no wonder you think what you do. This isn't OU vs. SW Hill Valley State.
Also that Saints run defense is mediocre, and they were without their starting middle linebacker. The Texan running attack should have been more consistent. Maybe it's the play calling.
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A consistent 3-4 yard output is fine but not up and down. How do run in the red zone if you have no idea if your back to going to get 0 or 8 which is what was happening yesterday.
Again, the Texans are not set up to run in the red zone like that. But then again, we're talking about from your own 30 yard line with 10 minutes left and a 10 point lead.
The Texans had 7 carries that resulted in 8 or more yards to total 76 of their 109 yards rushing. That means the other 18 carries netted just 33 yards. That's inconsistent.
That's the NFL. No team runs every single play for 4 yards. I think we disagree on what it means to run successfully in this league.
I agree they're potent, but you have no idea what you're going to get from play to play.
You can't look at it from play to play. You have to look at it as an approach. Just because you get stuffed on one run play doesn't mean you can't run and should give up on trying to run. You keep pounding and pounding.
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MINN is the best rushing team in the NFL so far this year (best YPA, 3rd in total yards) ; their 1st down rushes vs Det:
3
7
4
1
2
1
1
0
2
-1
That's in a game where they average 5.7 yards per carry; that's just how it goes in the NFL.
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Also that Saints run defense is mediocre, and they were without their starting middle linebacker. The Texan running attack should have been more consistent. Maybe it's the play calling.
If they had been running more during the game, they'd have been more successful late in the game. Running the ball gets easier, if you've been doing it all game.
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the Texans are just way too predictable. The Saints have been a bad short yardage team this year...when they got inside the 10 in the 4th quarter yesterday, they ran a power iso out of a 3 reciever set, putting their big RB against a smaller defensive lineup. The Saints did not try to go heavy (that made Houston stay honest to both the run and pass, giving NO favorable matchups in both departments). Houston, too often, tries to go heavy in obvious run situations. Does not matter how well you run the ball, that battle goes to the defense more often than not.
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the Texans are just way too predictable. The Saints have been a bad short yardage team this year...when they got inside the 10 in the 4th quarter yesterday, they ran a power iso out of a 3 reciever set, putting their big RB against a smaller defensive lineup. The Saints did not try to go heavy (that made Houston stay honest to both the run and pass, giving NO favorable matchups in both departments). Houston, too often, tries to go heavy in obvious run situations. Does not matter how well you run the ball, that battle goes to the defense more often than not.
You know, you can take your puke avatar and go sit in the corner.
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Again, the Texans are not set up to run in the red zone like that. But then again, we're talking about from your own 30 yard line with 10 minutes left and a 10 point lead.
Here's where you nail Kubiak. In the 4th quarter they had 1 first down run. It was from the Texan 20 and went for 0 yards.
Perhaps closer to your point they ran 3 times on first down in the third quarter: 2 yards, 8 yards, 8 yards. The 2 eights were in NO territory.
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You know, you can take your puke avatar and go sit in the corner.
I really did not have to post anything, just wanted to take the new car for a spin
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Going from Foster to Tate is like going from Terrell Davis to Olandis Gary.
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Foster? Tate? Does it really matter? If a team can stay close and put the pressure on the Texans, they will likely fold. Starts with Kubiak and filters throughout.
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In my fantasy world, Kubiak actually called some of those running plays to set up plays he had in mind for later. The runs to the left side seemed to struggle, but he kept running them until he started trying out those screens to the left with mixed results.
Schaub, to me, is looking worse this year. His success really seems to be because of the receivers making athletic plays. There are way too many underthrown balls, balls behind the receiver in the cross, and slow reads.
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Schaub, to me, is looking worse this year. His success really seems to be because of the receivers making athletic plays. There are way too many underthrown balls, balls behind the receiver in the cross, and slow reads.
This is what I'm seeing too
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I think he is just not that accurate - a lot of the "bad throws" seem to be decent decisions poorly executed.
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In my fantasy world, Kubiak actually called some of those running plays to set up plays he had in mind for later. The runs to the left side seemed to struggle, but he kept running them until he started trying out those screens to the left with mixed results.
Schaub, to me, is looking worse this year. His success really seems to be because of the receivers making athletic plays. There are way too many underthrown balls, balls behind the receiver in the cross, and slow reads.
Schaub is ok, but Schaub is not good enough to overcome bad coaching, play calling, and a bad defense. Brees did to the Texans what he did to the Packers and Bears. I'd be a lot more concerned if a) the Texans were not 2-1 b) they gave up that lead at home and c) did it to a team without one of the best, most balanced passing attacks in the league (graham is a beast).
Schaub made a great throw on the Casey TD. He also had some terrible throws (Walter TD, interception, etc.). He's an average QB and that's what average QBs do.
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I think he is just not that accurate - a lot of the "bad throws" seem to be decent decisions poorly executed.
Watching Rogers in the afternoon game brought this into painful relief.
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Schaub is ok, but Schaub is not good enough to overcome bad coaching, play calling, and a bad defense. Brees did to the Texans what he did to the Packers and Bears. I'd be a lot more concerned if a) the Texans were not 2-1 b) they gave up that lead at home and c) did it to a team without one of the best, most balanced passing attacks in the league (graham is a beast).
My fear is that, in four weeks time, the Texans will be 2-5, with all hope momentum lost (PIT, OAK, @BAL, @TEN).
Also, for you Kubiak fans, my front office source tells me that, over their by week, Kubes is taking the team to Vegas. I...am...serious.
Maybe I'm being reactionary. After all, my last trip there - for a 50th birthday - only involved one fight in a lift / hotel lobby / cab stand, one facedown with LVPD, one bitchfest with hotel security and one running swearing battle with a hotel parking service. I'm sure a cadre of young, highly paid and highly oversexed men (also information from my front office source) in a testosterone-fueled environment - in Las Vegas - will be like my great aunt's tea parties.
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My fear is that, in four weeks time, the Texans will be 2-5, with all hope momentum lost (PIT, OAK, @BAL, @TEN).
I had chalked OAK up as a win, but I now fear their RBs.
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I had chalked OAK up as a win, but I now fear their RBs.
Defense is horrible across the board. They reverted to last season's capitulatory defending, hence they got burned for 40 points. Cornerbacks were retreating behind the 1st down line, giving the Stains' receivers easy completions. They also, routinely, ran crossing routes with wide-open catches in the middle of the field. Kareem Jackson is a standout in this foolishness, but he's far from being alone. Run defense up the middle was soft as shit, and Brees had all fucking day to make a throw.
Bottom line is: the Texans should fear everyone's offense.
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I don't know if 3.9 yards/carry is "pretty fucking good", but it is okay.
it moves the chains.
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it moves the chains.
And keeps the clock running.
I said to Miss Limey, when the Texans got the ball back with the lead and about 12 mins on the clock, that a nice 8 minute touchdown drive would be great! Incomplete short, incomplete long, incomplete trying for 10. Shitfuck!
I believe that particular 3 'n' out may have been followed by the punt that didn't cross the 50 yard line.
ETA: Correction - they ran on 2nd and 10. Confirmation - it was that punt. Aggravation - the Saints took 5 plays to score a TD.
Houston - 12:21
1st-10, HOU14 12:21 M. Schaub incomplete pass to the left
2nd-10, HOU14 12:15 B. Tate rushed to the left for 1 yard gain
3rd-9, HOU15 11:31 M. Schaub incomplete pass to the left
4th-9, HOU15 11:20 B. Hartmann punt, no return
New Orleans - 11:20
1st-10, HOU49 11:20 D. Brees passed to D. Sproles to the left for 10 yard gain
1st-10, HOU39 11:04 D. Brees incomplete pass down the middle
2nd-10, HOU39 11:00 D. Brees passed to D. Sproles to the left for 9 yard gain
3rd-1, HOU30 10:16 M. Ingram rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
1st-10, HOU27 9:30 D. Brees passed to J. Graham to the left for 27 yard touchdown. J. Kasay made PAT
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And keeps the clock running.
I said to Miss Limey, when the Texans got the ball back with the lead and about 12 mins on the clock, that a nice 8 minute touchdown drive would be great! Incomplete short, incomplete longrun for no gain, incomplete trying for 10. Shitfuck!
I believe That particular 3 'n' out may have beenwas followed by the punt that didn't cross the 50 yard line.
FIFAccuracy
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Defense is horrible across the board. They reverted to last season's capitulatory defending, hence they got burned for 40 points. Cornerbacks were retreating behind the 1st down line, giving the Stains' receivers easy completions. They also, routinely, ran crossing routes with wide-open catches in the middle of the field. Kareem Jackson is a standout in this foolishness, but he's far from being alone. Run defense up the middle was soft as shit, and Brees had all fucking day to make a throw.
Bottom line is: the Texans should fear everyone's offense.
Texans D is way way better than last year, Saints got them where they wanted them-- in nickel defense, spread the field situations where kareem jackson can't be protected with a safety. This to me is on Kubiak. Saints goal with every game is to get it into a shootout with Brees throwing all over the place to different receivers and the defense blitzing like crazy against a team trying to keep up. Texans are not built to win this way. The Miami game is more or less the blueprint-- long drives, the run game working harmoniously with play-action game, bend-but-don't break defense making a few plays here and there.
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And keeps the clock running.
I said to Miss Limey, when the Texans got the ball back with the lead and about 12 mins on the clock, that a nice 8 minute touchdown drive would be great! Incomplete short, incomplete long, incomplete trying for 10. Shitfuck!
I believe that particular 3 'n' out may have been followed by the punt that didn't cross the 50 yard line.
ETA: Correction - they ran on 2nd and 10. Confirmation - it was that punt. Aggravation - the Saints took 5 plays to score a TD.
Houston - 12:21
1st-10, HOU14 12:21 M. Schaub incomplete pass to the left
2nd-10, HOU14 12:15 B. Tate rushed to the left for 1 yard gain
3rd-9, HOU15 11:31 M. Schaub incomplete pass to the left
4th-9, HOU15 11:20 B. Hartmann punt, no return
New Orleans - 11:20
1st-10, HOU49 11:20 D. Brees passed to D. Sproles to the left for 10 yard gain
1st-10, HOU39 11:04 D. Brees incomplete pass down the middle
2nd-10, HOU39 11:00 D. Brees passed to D. Sproles to the left for 9 yard gain
3rd-1, HOU30 10:16 M. Ingram rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
1st-10, HOU27 9:30 D. Brees passed to J. Graham to the left for 27 yard touchdown. J. Kasay made PAT
I thought the Texans played this drive like they were the team behind in the score. It also seemed to be the perfect example of why the Texans need Foster, both as a runner and a pass catcher. Then again, I was at the game, and the fourth quarter was kind of all a blur. It's not cajun BS when Saints fans tell you it gets loud in the Superdome.
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I thought the Texans played this drive like they were the team behind in the score. It also seemed to be the perfect example of why the Texans need Foster, both as a runner and a pass catcher. Then again, I was at the game, and the fourth quarter was kind of all a blur. It's not cajun BS when Saints fans tell you it gets loud in the Superdome.
As a former Saints season ticket holder, I can confirm that it gets real loud in the Dome. That's why some call it the Deaf Dome.
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As a former Saints season ticket holder, I can confirm that it gets real loud in the Dome. That's why some call it the Deaf Dome.
Why do the others call it that?
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I thought the Texans played this drive like they were the team behind in the score. It also seemed to be the perfect example of why the Texans need Foster, both as a runner and a pass catcher. Then again, I was at the game, and the fourth quarter was kind of all a blur. It's not cajun BS when Saints fans tell you it gets loud in the Superdome.
In my house, when that punt failed to cross the halfway line, you could've heard a pin drop*.
* Prior to an uninterrupted stream of freeform expletives.
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In my house, when that punt failed to cross the halfway line, you could've heard a pin drop*.
* Prior to an uninterrupted stream of freeform expletives.
I may or may not have said it out loud but definitely thought to myself "at least Turk is gone and our new punter can kick the hell out of the football."
That one's on me.
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I may or may not have said it out loud but definitely thought to myself "at least Turk is gone and our new punter can kick the hell out of the football."
That one's on me.
I (unkindly) commented that Douglas Bader (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Bader) could've kicked that over half way. Thus, future retribution is on me.
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In my house, when that punt failed to cross the halfway line, you could've heard a pin drop*.
I have in fact been wondering how Miss Limey grappled with the loss.
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I have in fact been wondering how Miss Limey grappled with the loss.
Therapy starts today.
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Therapy starts today.
We're in room 209, second floor.
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Slaton waived per McLain's Twitter. I hope this means the Foster and Ward injuries are improving, but it probably just means the Texans realized Ogbo couldn't possibly be much worse.
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Slaton waived per McLain's Twitter. I hope this means the Foster and Ward injuries are improving, but it probably just means the Texans realized Ogbo couldn't possibly be much worse.
I remember him having 1 carry for minus-something yards on Sunday. Couldn't run through the Grand Canyon without hitting the sides.
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Red Zone TD!
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They're going to set a fucking record for penalties.
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difference between foster and tate is night and day, and tate was pretty good.
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difference between foster and tate is night and day, and tate was pretty good.
That is precisely what I have been sitting here thinking.
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Great, great cuts
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Who still kicks to Hester?
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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FUCK.
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please tell me we have a different johnson who plays wide receiver and wears #80
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Well, this really sucks.
THEY CUT OFF OUR JOHNSON!
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Pray it's the hammy.
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Cant be ACL if he's walking right?
Rosencopter.
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Hey Casey, how about we just lower the old shoulder and deliver a hit next time, okay? Thanks.
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Cant be ACL if he's walking right?
Rosencopter.
you can still walk if your acl's messed up.
btw, i was at a jiu jitsu tournament yesterday and i saw the most horrific ulnar injury i've ever seen. 16 year-old kid didn't tap from an armbar, and so his opponent switched to a kimura (shoulder/elbow lock) and cranked it hard. kid didn't stop screaming for 5 minutes
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So it turns out that Foster can't help Schaub's accuracy.
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Mario Williams dropped into coverage on the long pass to Mike Wallace. Outstanding plan, Wade.
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Mario Williams dropped into coverage on the long pass to Mike Wallace. Outstanding plan, Wade.
i don't have a big problem with that as long as it's not the norm. good chance at an INT if the steelers go for the slant to ward.
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dan dierdorf is the fat uncle in your family who nobody can stand during holidays.
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Bunch of dick-steppers.
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This is a stupid fucking team. Manning pushes the holder in the back for no reason. Incredible.
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I'm running out of words to express my frustrations with this team.
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This is a stupid fucking team. Manning pushes the holder in the back for no reason. Incredible.
Was it the holder? I thought it was the kicker? Either way, there was no chance the guy would ever catch up. Just let him be.
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Why is the roof closed?
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Why is the roof closed?
Because it's warmer than 80 degrees.
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Why is the roof closed?
Even God knows whats coming
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Pray it's the hammy.
That's what the Texans are saying it is. Strained
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Because it's warmer than 80 degrees.
remember the classic, maybe quintessential dom capers game where it was like 100 degrees and they intentionally opened the roof so that the opponent would get baked in their dark uniforms and fatigue after the texans followed a grind-em-out gameplan. only problem was the texans fell behind big early. anybody remember the opponent in that game?
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Because it's warmer than 80 degrees.
Not in Sugar Land. Was about 75 at gametime. If you're not opening it today, you're never opening it.
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remember the classic, maybe quintessential dom capers game where it was like 100 degrees and they intentionally opened the roof so that the opponent would get baked in their dark uniforms and fatigue after the texans followed a grind-em-out gameplan. only problem was the texans fell behind big early. anybody remember the opponent in that game?
The Steelers, obviously.
T.J., don't blame me, dude, I don't make up this stupid shit, the team has proven itself more than capable over the years.
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And so it begins...
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"Its all about the second half for the Texans."
I agree with Dierdork on something.
Kubiak is an idiot.
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I agree with Dierdork on something.
did you know that mike tomlin is 39?
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Kubiak is an idiot.
At least he hasn't blocked anyone in the back for no reason...yet.
This is a dumb, dumb football team.
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At least he hasn't blocked anyone in the back for no reason...yet.
This is a dumb, dumb football team.
That was the most asinine stupidity I have ever seen on a football field that did not involve a sharpie or a cell phone.
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At least he hasn't blocked anyone in the back for no reason...yet.
This is a dumb, dumb football team.
not excusing the penalty, but i can always handle mistakes born out of aggression far more than the usual type of kubiak fucktardery. again, stupid penalty made stupider because of the situation, but to me nowhere near the league of forcing the ball to dreesen twice in a row with the game on the line, coming out throwing against the colts on monday night, etc.
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HELL YES
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at least kubiak knows who the ball should go to. hell yeah!
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No flag? Inconceivable!
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Foster's hammy must be okay.
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did you know that mike tomlin is 39?
I did know that. Some of my friends from grad school went to undergrad with him.
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Man, how bad is MIN? KC is pulling away from them.
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I did know that. Some of my friends from grad school went to undergrad with him.
hey man don't tell me, tell dierdorf
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hey man don't tell me, tell dierdorf
Oh sorry, wasn't watching that game. Assuming disaster looms.
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In case anyone was wondering, Dierdorf is not a doctor.
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holy crap, what a blitz design by wade
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MARIO!
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They're roethling Rapistberger.
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It is now time for a clock-draining drive.
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Calvin Johnson is the best WR in the NFL.
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Remember when Dierdorf and Frank Gifford did MNF together? Dierdorf was forever making fun of how stupid Gifford is. Think about that for a minute. Dan Dierdorf is smarter than you are. FYL.
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wtf was that?
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Dick-steppers.
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Can someone tackle? Geez....
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Calvin Johnson is the best WR in the NFL.
Da-doing-doing-doing!
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Can someone please, please HIT Rothlisberger? HARD....
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Intercept the dang ball!!
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This wasn't in the script.
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Thank you Barwin!
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Remember when Dierdorf and Frank Gifford did MNF together? Dierdorf was forever making fun of how stupid Gifford is. Think about that for a minute. Dan Dierdorf is smarter than you are. FYL.
dierdorf's one of those guys who's never in his life been in the type of situation that would make him realize he's not smart. as an o-lineman he was always among the 'smartest' guys on the team, and for the last 25 years people have been paying him lots of money to hear him talk. somehow, i can't imagine he gets challenged intellectually too much at home either.
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wow, oh, wow.. special teams
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yes! but fuck all if this is roughing the passer
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dick. steppers.
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dick. steppers.
he was blocked into him. look at the replay,he was tripped up by the o-lineman as he dove at roethlisberger, forcing the low hit.
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he was blocked into him. look at the replay,he was tripped up by the o-lineman as he dove at roethlisberger, forcing the low hit.
Challengeable? Because the flag was bullshit (for once).
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The Cowboys are showing off their own brand of Dick Steppin' Time (DST).
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Calvin Johnson is the best WR in the NFL.
Another TD.
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Detroit is in the process of being on the receiving end of the biggest collapse in Dallas Cowboy history.
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Detroit is in the process of being on the receiving end of the biggest collapse in Dallas Cowboy history.
I almost feel sorry for anyone who's a fan of the Aggies and the Cowboys. Almost.
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That was fucking incredible.
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Cowboys don't even know what down it is.
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Cowboys don't even know what down it is.
Yeah, but they've got a purty stadium.
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And that puts a nice bow on a 4-0 weekend of football!
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And that puts a nice bow on a 4-0 weekend of football!
Longhorns win.
Texans win.
Aggies lose.
Cowboys lose.
Yep, that's 4.
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So the Horns win, the Texans win, Nebraska loses agains their new conference mates, the Aggies lose against their new conference mates, the Cowboys get embarrassed at home... This is shaping up to be an outSTANding football weekend.
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So the Horns win, the Texans win, Nebraska loses agains their new conference mates, the Aggies lose against their new conference mates, the Cowboys get embarrassed at home... This is shaping up to be an outSTANding football weekend.
Ah, yes! 5-0
48-17... Big 10! Big 10! Big 10!
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Nebraska loses agains their new conference mates
Nebraska didn't just lose, they got shit-stomped. That was nice to see.
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Yeah, but they've got a purty stadium.
Parts of it are really cool and parts aren't.
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So the Horns win, the Texans win, Nebraska loses agains their new conference mates, the Aggies lose against their new conference mates, the Cowboys get embarrassed at home... This is shaping up to be an outSTANding football weekend.
Miss Limey loves this.
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Miss Limey loves this.
Give Miss Limey a high five for me, will you? And while you're up could you get me a Shiner? Thanks.
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Give Miss Limey a high five for me, will you? And while you're up could you get me a Shiner? Thanks.
Done, and done.
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Ah, yes! 5-0
48-17... Big 10! Big 10! Big 10!
Oh, and Jetah just grounded out to end an inning with somebody in scoring position and then committed an error to set up some more DET scoring.
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Texans dominating the Raiders all over the park, but not turning the dominance into points separation. 6-14 in the 2nd qtr as I type.
Strange game.
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Mind boggling ineptitude by both teams.
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Texans better wake the fuck up or they're gonna get their collective ass beat in the second half.
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Oh deere lowered. What a waste of that Foster reception.
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Oh deere lowered. What a waste of that Foster reception.
Ridiculous. This is smelling more and more like a loss.
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Ridiculous. This is smelling more and more like a loss.
Losing Williams really hurt, but he doesn't play offense, kick punts or kick field goals.
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Ridiculous. This is smelling more and more like a loss.
Spray some Lysol. Please.
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Appaeremtky, the Texans now only play one quarter. *
* Except Kevin Walter. Holy crap!
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Oh. My. What. A. Catch.
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Oh. My. What. A. Catch.
Tremendous catch. Too bad Dreesen didn't take lessons.
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Patented Kubiak challenge. Incredible.
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Thank you Rackers!
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Battle of the long FGs.
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I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
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Patented Kubiak challenge. Incredible.
Miss Limey thinks that all the Botox has seeped into his brain.
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Can someone tackle the man with the ball?
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Can someone tackle the man with the ball?
2nd 1/2 defense - Mario = Loss
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Miss Limey thinks that all the Botox has seeped into his brain.
I doubt he was all that bright to begin with.
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2nd 1/2 defense - Mario = Loss
What happened to Mario?
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What happened to Mario?
Pectoral injury.
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[Insert uninterrupted stream of expletives here]
This may be the dumbest collection of players I've ever seen in any sport.
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[Insert uninterrupted stream of expletives here]
^3
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This may be the dumbest collection of players I've ever seen in any sport.
There's no maybe about it. Two guys kept running down the sideline with no clue the ball carrier was behind them.
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There's no maybe about it. Two guys kept running down the sideline with no clue the ball carrier was behind them.
Yep. Blocking for the opposing runner.
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There's no maybe about it. Two guys kept running down the sideline with no clue the ball carrier was behind them.
Don't football players go to college?
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Does anyone remember the 1st quarter when Owen Daniels was rampant and the Raiders couldn't get a 1st down?
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Somebody get SChaub a fucking stepstool.
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OUTSTANDING use of timeouts.
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Does anyone remember the 1st quarter when Owen Daniels was rampant and the Raiders couldn't get a 1st down?
It was only a dream...
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A soccer flop? Seriously? That's the plan?
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What a bunch of clowns. This offense now looks like UT's did yesterday, all the way down to the O-line getting abused.
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PBP guys calling out Kubiak. It's THAT obvious.
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PBP guys calling out Kubiak. It's THAT obvious.
Kubiak doesn't know how to adjust his own balls.
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Kubiak doesn't know how to adjust his own balls.
You actually think he has balls?
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Fair catch at the 5? Oh, what the hell, why not?
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Fair catch at the 5? Oh, what the hell, why not?
It's different.
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Fair catch at the 5? Oh, what the hell, why not?
He's a fucking moron.
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You actually think he has balls?
Undescended.
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Oh lookie here. Owen Danieks - 2 plays, 1st down. Fuck Kubiak!
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Undescended.
They're where his brains should be.
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Is it too late to try tanking for Luck?
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Horns looked better than this yesterday. At least they were trying.
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So Kubes brings Daniels and Foster back into the offense, and the chains start moving.
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Schaub has well and truly sucked today.
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Houston should have 3 timeouts. Kubiak dodged a bullet there.
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Schaub, that was on you. Place the ball right and that was 6.
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That's on Stone Hands.
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FG? Are you fucking kidding me??
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That's on Stone Hands.
Vickers has no purpose on this team.
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Houston should have 3 timeouts. Kubiak dodged a bullet there.
Maybe not. All that bullshit was due to the lack of timeouts.
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Sure would be convenient to have those three points that Rackers fucked up.
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This team is brain dead.
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This team is brain dead.
Thankfully, so are the Raiders.
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Why is Jacoby Jones returning anything?
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Jacobi Jones is not a smart man. He needs some coverage, though.
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How the fuck does that happen?
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dick. steppers.
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That's a new one.
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A fucked-up snap. How perfect.
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How many ways can they fuck up?
Holt shit!?!?!?!!!!!
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It's unclear which of these two teams is more stupid.
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These two teams are perfect for each other.
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That's pretty much the only way it could have ended.
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holy fuck
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Just fucking perfect. He could have WALKED in.
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Schaub had that. What a pussy!!!
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If your receiver is behind the DB, wouldn't you want to throw it up high and behind the DB?
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Wow, that was fucked up.
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Jacoby needed to come back for that ball. This team is a fucking joke.
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Just fucking perfect. He could have WALKED in.
He and Kubes need to have their bags packed before they get back to the locker room.
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With seven seconds left, it's simple: one read, throw to him, or throw it away and try again.
Nobody on this brain-dead team can understand that.
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He and Kubes need to have their bags packed before they get back to the locker room.
Why? McNair doesn't give a flying fuck about winning.
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With seven seconds left, it's simple: one read, throw to him, or throw it away and try again.
Nobody on this brain-dead team can understand that.
They would have had about 11 seconds if Schaub hadn't have casually strolled up to the line on the spike.
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As expected, McClain reports Mario done for the year.
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As expected, McClain reports Mario done for the year.
Crapola.
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Crapola.
Pretty funny how my hopes evolved over the course of that game:
1st half: the defense looks great. This team could win a playoff game!
2nd half: this defense is still pretty porous! Where the hell are OD and AF? JJ runs pass routes like he's about 15 beers deep. I hope we can win the division.
Post-game reality: this team has deficiencies that can't be hidden against even mediocre teams. If the Texans make the playoffs, it will be by virtue of stumbling there assbackwards.
I know it's en vogue to hate on Schaub today, but the guy gets all pussy-footed the first sign of any d-lineman even thinking about penetrating his o-line. The day Schaub feels pressure and steps up in the pocket and makes a throw I'll throw a parade in his honor.
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Pretty funny how my hopes evolved over the course of that game:
1st half: the defense looks great. This team could win a playoff game!
2nd half: this defense is still pretty porous! Where the hell are OD and AF? JJ runs pass routes like he's about 15 beers deep. I hope we can win the division.
Post-game reality: this team has deficiencies that can't be hidden against even mediocre teams. If the Texans make the playoffs, it will be by virtue of stumbling there assbackwards.
I know it's en vogue to hate on Schaub today, but the guy gets all pussy-footed the first sign of any d-lineman even thinking about penetrating his o-line. The day Schaub feels pressure and steps up in the pocket and makes a throw I'll throw a parade in his honor.
I agree with everything you said. That game hurt.
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Even his opponents are calling out Schaub (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/10/tommy-kelly-on-schaub-he-choked-simple-as-that/)
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Even his opponents are calling out Schaub (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/10/tommy-kelly-on-schaub-he-choked-simple-as-that/)
Last week, I was called out (by some) for calling him heartless and not a leader on the team. Anyone want to have that debate again this week?
If he'd tried to run it, and been stuffed 1/2 yard short, I would've praised his effort for trying to win it on his own when the rest of the offense was AWOL. He didn't. Instead, he saw the opening, went for it, crapped his pants, backed off and threw the worst pass* I've seen since he threw one right to a Raven from his own 1 yard line in OT last year.
* And that's saying something.
This No team will never win with Schaub at QB.
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Last week, I was called out (by some) for calling him heartless and not a leader on the team. Anyone want to have that debate again this week?
If he'd tried to run it, and been stuffed 1/2 yard short, I would've praised his effort for trying to win it on his own when the rest of the offense was AWOL. He didn't. Instead, he saw the opening, went for it, crapped his pants, backed off and threw the worst pass* I've seen since he threw one right to a Raven from his own 1 yard line in OT last year.
* And that's saying something.
This No team will never win with Schaub at QB.
It's stupid to argue hypotheticals, but the Raider safety would have stopped Schaub well short of the goaline. The play was to lob the ball with some air under it into the back corner section of the endzone and hope JJ can turn around and make a play. The result was that Schaub felt the pressure and seized up and tried to throw a dart through a pinhole with a large, African-American man standing in front of the pinhole.
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The result was that Schaub felt the pressure and seized up and tried to throw a dart through a pinhole with a large, African-American man standing in front of the pinhole.
Apropos of nothing, the phrasing here made me think of "offensive line" on last week's Modern Family, which got the loudest laugh from me in quite some time.
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Apropos of nothing, the phrasing here made me think of "offensive line" on last week's Modern Family, which got the loudest laugh from me in quite some time.
+1
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Last week, I was called out (by some) for calling him heartless and not a leader on the team. Anyone want to have that debate again this week?
If he'd tried to run it, and been stuffed 1/2 yard short, I would've praised his effort for trying to win it on his own when the rest of the offense was AWOL. He didn't. Instead, he saw the opening, went for it, crapped his pants, backed off and threw the worst pass* I've seen since he threw one right to a Raven from his own 1 yard line in OT last year.
* And that's saying something.
This No team will never win with Schaub at QB.
I think Schaub made the correct decision wrt trying to run the ball in. That safety was closing fast, and Schaub isn't exactly Usain Bolt. But the pass he threw was pathetic. If that had been Andre there, he would have thrown it high and let him go get it; why didn't he do the same thing with Jones?
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I think Schaub made the correct decision wrt trying to run the ball in. That safety was closing fast, and Schaub isn't exactly Usain Bolt. But the pass he threw was pathetic. If that had been Andre there, he would have thrown it high and let him go get it; why didn't he do the same thing with Jones?
Because Schaub realizes that Jones is worse than 90% of high school WR's?
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Because Schaub realizes that Jones is worse than 90% of high school WR's?
This.
And anyways, blaming the last play is beside the point - they didn't do a damn thing on offense in the whole second half. And completely abandoned the run and play action game way too early. Blaming Mario being out is idiotic too, the defense did plenty to win.
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This.
And anyways, blaming the last play is beside the point - they didn't do a damn thing on offense in the whole second half. And completely abandoned the run and play action game way too early. Blaming Mario being out is idiotic too, the defense did plenty to win.
The last play was a busted flush, but was only the last play because of awful clock management during the half and during the final drive. Look at the team stats (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20111009034), and the Texans dominated in almost every category. Including, to which the "L" testifies, dick tripping.
The Texans are about one more performance like this away from becoming the Rockets to me. I.e., I cannot watch them play, because it makes me too angry. Why spoil my Sunday?
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The Texans are about one more performance like this away from becoming the Rockets to me. I.e., I cannot watch them play, because it makes me too angry. Why spoil my Sunday?
This is why I can't consider myself a Texans "fan"... I can't get fanatical about them. I know what to expect: mediocrity. I have no emotional investment in them.
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This.
And anyways, blaming the last play is beside the point - they didn't do a damn thing on offense in the whole second half. And completely abandoned the run and play action game way too early. Blaming Mario being out is idiotic too, the defense did plenty to win.
It was actually kind of sweet when Kubiak finally realized that he could still find ways to have Arian be involved in the offense even if the Raiders had seven guys in the box...with 3 minutes left in the second half.
Abandon the straight up, vanilla run plays if the defense is selling out at all costs to stop it (and, I think the run was abandoned too soon anyways). Don't abandon getting your best player involved. Really Kubiak? You didn't realize that the Raiders' plan to force you to rely entirely on Marion Jacoby Jones and the David Duke WR All-Stars* wouldn't go well for you?
*excludes owen daniels
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Also, he didn't seem to grasp (until the very end) the idea that if the Raiders were going to bring pressure every time, maybe they should try a screen or two.
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This is why I can't consider myself a Texans "fan"... I can't get fanatical about them. I know what to expect: mediocrity. I have no emotional investment in them.
How bad is it? I agree with commenters on the Chronicle website (http://blog.chron.com/jeromesolomon/2011/10/do-you-still-believe-in-the-texans/). Maybe I shouldn't give them another game, and start my 12 step-away program now.
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Last week, I was called out (by some) for calling him heartless and not a leader on the team. Anyone want to have that debate again this week?
If he'd tried to run it, and been stuffed 1/2 yard short, I would've praised his effort for trying to win it on his own when the rest of the offense was AWOL. He didn't. Instead, he saw the opening, went for it, crapped his pants, backed off and threw the worst pass* I've seen since he threw one right to a Raven from his own 1 yard line in OT last year.
Completely agree. In a situation like that, I have to ask...WWJED? (what would John Elway do?)
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I think Schaub made the correct decision wrt trying to run the ball in. That safety was closing fast, and Schaub isn't exactly Usain Bolt.
He doesn't have to outrun the safety, he has to run him over. Schaub's a big boy...lower your head and run that fucker over.
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Schaub's a big boy...lower your head and run that fucker over.
6'5", so if you fall down, that's two and a half of the five you need. Jesucristo, stick the ball out and dive for it!
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6'5", so if you fall down, that's two and a half of the five you need
Do you play poker, by chance?
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The Texans may suck, but they are my Texans.
I don't know what Schaub should have done, but it was easy to see what he shouldn't have done. JJ may not be a AJ, but he is an athletic guy. I can't help but think they had a shot with a quick jump pass, or just let Schaub go for the run. Anything but throw it low into coverage.
The big point is, they had time in the first half to do damage and they quit doing what was working for them. Oakland was begging to be beaten early on. If not for Janikowski kicking from mid-field, they had no offense.
Still, I am going to root for the poor team. OD is son #2's favorite player, and he is the first son to SCHEDULE watching football with me. That is a good thing, and means more than the win or loss, frustrating as it can be.
Now, I have wasted my 5000th post on the Texans. great.
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The Texans may suck, but they are my Texans.
I don't know what Schaub should have done, but it was easy to see what he shouldn't have done. JJ may not be a AJ, but he is an athletic guy. I can't help but think they had a shot with a quick jump pass, or just let Schaub go for the run. Anything but throw it low into coverage.
The big point is, they had time in the first half to do damage and they quit doing what was working for them. Oakland was begging to be beaten early on. If not for Janikowski kicking from mid-field, they had no offense.
Still, I am going to root for the poor team. OD is son #2's favorite player, and he is the first son to SCHEDULE watching football with me. That is a good thing, and means more than the win or loss, frustrating as it can be.
Now, I have wasted my 5000th post on the Texans. great.
Dude... congrats
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The Texans may suck, but they are my Texans.
I don't know what Schaub should have done, but it was easy to see what he shouldn't have done. JJ may not be a AJ, but he is an athletic guy. I can't help but think they had a shot with a quick jump pass, or just let Schaub go for the run. Anything but throw it low into coverage.
The big point is, they had time in the first half to do damage and they quit doing what was working for them. Oakland was begging to be beaten early on. If not for Janikowski kicking from mid-field, they had no offense.
Still, I am going to root for the poor team. OD is son #2's favorite player, and he is the first son to SCHEDULE watching football with me. That is a good thing, and means more than the win or loss, frustrating as it can be.
Now, I have wasted my 5000th post on the Texans. great.
Congratulations, Pope ETA!
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The Texans may suck, but they are my Texans.
I don't know what Schaub should have done, but it was easy to see what he shouldn't have done. JJ may not be a AJ, but he is an athletic guy. I can't help but think they had a shot with a quick jump pass, or just let Schaub go for the run. Anything but throw it low into coverage.
The big point is, they had time in the first half to do damage and they quit doing what was working for them. Oakland was begging to be beaten early on. If not for Janikowski kicking from mid-field, they had no offense.
Lots of "ifs" in this game. But, sometimes football comes down to the very simple...lace it up and go knock someone on his ass. This was one of those times. Schaub wouldn't.
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The Texans may suck, but they are my Texans.
I don't know what Schaub should have done, but it was easy to see what he shouldn't have done. JJ may not be a AJ, but he is an athletic guy. I can't help but think they had a shot with a quick jump pass, or just let Schaub go for the run. Anything but throw it low into coverage.
The big point is, they had time in the first half to do damage and they quit doing what was working for them. Oakland was begging to be beaten early on. If not for Janikowski kicking from mid-field, they had no offense.
Still, I am going to root for the poor team. OD is son #2's favorite player, and he is the first son to SCHEDULE watching football with me. That is a good thing, and means more than the win or loss, frustrating as it can be.
Now, I have wasted my 5000th post on the Texans. great.
Congrats! Silly hat sizings are on the 6th Tuesday of the month.
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Completely agree. In a situation like that, I have to ask...WWJED? (what would John Elway do?) WWSRD? (what would Sage Rosenfels do?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_hi7gOjE0
FIFTexans
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_hi7gOjE0
FIFTexans
If Schaub had half the juevos Rosenfeld has, the Texans would be 4-1 right now.
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Thanks, everyone.
Now, back to normal crap.
I stil can't believe the fake punt. I even called it. It is Oakland, people. They are going to go for trick plays. To have our punt return team block for their runner....
I want to cry sometimes. Not like Alkie does when his tofu delivery takes 7 minutes, but real crying, like when in Armageddon, the mom tells the kid, "That isn't a salesman, it's your Daddy."
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Thanks, everyone.
Now, back to normal crap.
I stil can't believe the fake punt. I even called it. It is Oakland, people. They are going to go for trick plays. To have our punt return team block for their runner....
I want to cry sometimes. Not like Alkie does when his tofu delivery takes 7 minutes, but real crying, like when in Armageddon, the mom tells the kid, "That isn't a salesman, it's your Daddy."
It actually looked like they had someone assigned to the up man who got blocked in the back to spring the play.
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It actually looked like they had someone assigned to the up man who got blocked in the back to spring the play.
Son saw that. I was weeping.
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Son saw that. I was weeping.
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Wk-5-Cant-Miss-Play-Emotional-finish/5c43d9d7-fa37-4107-904c-22da4e46908a#?id=df7c78d3-c6c0-4add-b83c-e2c6b2c651b5&channelName=Recent
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http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Wk-5-Cant-Miss-Play-Emotional-finish/5c43d9d7-fa37-4107-904c-22da4e46908a#?id=df7c78d3-c6c0-4add-b83c-e2c6b2c651b5&channelName=Recent
Thanks. I needed to relive the pain.
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It actually looked like they had someone assigned to the up man who got blocked in the back to spring the play.
The fake punt couldn't have worked without a ridiculous hold by the Raiders to spring the guy. That's no excuse, however.
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It actually looked like they had someone assigned to the up man who got blocked in the back to spring the play.
It was a very clear block in the back, but not quite as clear as the game ending interception.
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http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Wk-5-Cant-Miss-Play-Emotional-finish/5c43d9d7-fa37-4107-904c-22da4e46908a#?id=df7c78d3-c6c0-4add-b83c-e2c6b2c651b5&channelName=Recent
That replay proves he would have scored. 53-54 mark shows Schaub had a sizable hole to run up the middle if he'd made the cut. The DB was coming at him from an angle and would not have been able to meet him head on to try to stop his momentum. He acted scared of contact.
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Oh I thought I linked the fake punt - you can click it down below.
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It was a very clear block in the back, but not quite as clear as the game ending interception.
The problem is, if not for these breakdowns, the game never comes down to a last second play.
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The problem is, if not for these breakdowns, the game never comes down to a last second play.
Or challenging calls that will never in a million years be overturned.
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Or challenging calls that will never in a million years be overturned.
What good would a timeout have done?
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That replay proves he would have scored. 53-54 mark shows Schaub had a sizable hole to run up the middle if he'd made the cut. The DB was coming at him from an angle and would not have been able to meet him head on to try to stop his momentum. He acted scared of contact.
Agreed. Didn't watch the game yesterday, but that replay is sick. Why would he start to run sideways? Run straight ahead and they won't hit you until you're right at the goal line. Too bad.
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Or challenging calls that will never in a million years be overturned.
And you had a injury timeout to see for yourself.
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Agreed. Didn't watch the game yesterday, but that replay is sick. Why would he start to run sideways? Run straight ahead and they won't hit you until you're right at the goal line. Too bad.
or how about running a quick slant or fade and running two plays if necessary instead of one. get real crazy and slip foster into the flats.
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Been holding my thoughts all day.
Is it Kubiak or Matt?
Does Kub allow his qb to audible out of bad plays (8/9 in box run)?
Or is Matt not smart enough to change the play?
I believe that Kub and his ego will get the best of him. Should have been run out of town 2/3 yrs ago.
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What good would a timeout have done?
Could have used that timeout in any number of situations, including:
After the third down run from the Raiders, saving us 30 seconds and still giving us the 2 minute warning as a clock stoppage.
or
Using it after Dreesen's catch, stopping the clock at :16 and giving the Texans as many as 3 shots at the end zone, since you wouldn't have had to waste a down stopping the clock.
If that was meant in jest, sorry. My sarcasm meter is broken, especially concerning that travesty of an ending.
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Could have used that timeout in any number of situations, including:
After the third down run from the Raiders, saving us 30 seconds and still giving us the 2 minute warning as a clock stoppage.
or
Using it after Dreesen's catch, stopping the clock at :16 and giving the Texans as many as 3 shots at the end zone, since you wouldn't have had to waste a down stopping the clock.
If that was meant in jest, sorry. My sarcasm meter is broken, especially concerning that travesty of an ending.
Man, didn't think of those, thanks
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If Schaub had half the juevos Rosenfeld has, the Texans would be 4-1 5-0 right now.
I know how much you love this, so I FIFY.
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That replay proves he would have scored. 53-54 mark shows Schaub had a sizable hole to run up the middle if he'd made the cut. The DB was coming at him from an angle and would not have been able to meet him head on to try to stop his momentum. He acted scared of contact.
He also had about 4 seconds to luzz that ball into row Z, and get another play. Schaub's decision-making on the fly is about 60% wrong, 100% of the time.
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What good would a timeout have done?
They would've been able to call it on the previous trip to the red zone, and perhaps come away with something better than a FG.
And, FTR, Kubiak wasted two timeouts in the half: one on the dumbass challenge and one because they we midfield, mid-3rd quarter and as organised as frog mating season.
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exactly. he also wasted at least 2 in steelers game. those didnt matter, but could have. disgusted.
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They would've been able to call it on the previous trip to the red zone, and perhaps come away with something better than a FG.
What bugged me most about that drive was the complete waste of time the entire drive. They were down 8 points. You have to treat that like you still need two scores, not one. Kubiak has always been completely incompetent in managing the clock.
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What bugged me most about that drive was the complete waste of time the entire drive. They were down 8 points. You have to treat that like you still need two scores, not one. Kubiak has always been completely incompetent in managing the clock.
yeah but to run the hurry up offense, your qb has to call plays. appears to me kubs ego wont allow for that.
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yeah but to run the hurry up offense, your qb has to call plays. appears to me kubs ego wont allow for that.
To me Miss Limey*, Schaub is the kind of QB who can execute a designed play with a great deal of competency. He does not look like the kind of QB who can call/adjust a play at the line, nor react to the defense and improvise on the fly. He's too slow checking through his options but, in his defense, the offensive line doesn't always give him a lot of time. Regardless, he's a poor passer unless he can plant, step-up and throw.
* She being much more savvy about this stuff than I.
Basically, Schaub's an upgraded David Carr.
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To me Miss Limey*, Schaub is the kind of QB who can execute a designed play with a great deal of competency. He does not look like the kind of QB who can call/adjust a play at the line, nor react to the defense and improvise on the fly. He's too slow checking through his options but, in his defense, the offensive line doesn't always give him a lot of time. Regardless, he's a poor passer unless he can plant, step-up and throw.
* She being much more savvy about this stuff than I.
Basically, Schaub's an upgraded David Carr.
Jacoby Jones was thrown to 11 times on Sunday. He caught one pass and got one pass interference call. But Schaub sucks right?
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yeah but to run the hurry up offense, your qb has to call plays. appears to me kubs ego wont allow for that.
Kubiak has a microphone and Schaub has a speaker in his helmet. Schaub doesn't have to call anything. Not that he shouldn't be allowed to, just that the coach calling the plays shouldn't prohibit a hurry-up offense.
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Basically, Schaub's an upgraded David Carr.
Ummm...no. Schaub is an immobile David Carr.
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Jacoby Jones was thrown to 11 times on Sunday. He caught one pass and got one pass interference call. But Schaub sucks right? Burn him!
If by "thrown to" you mean "a pass was thrown to within 15 yards of him", yes, you are correct. Schaub wasn't exactly dropping them in the ol' pickle barrel on Sunday.
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Ummm...no. Schaub is an immobile David Carr.
Schaub is 10 times the qb that Carr was.
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Schaub is 10 times the qb that Carr was.
In your fantasy league, perhaps. Not in reality.
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If by "thrown to" you mean "a pass was thrown to within 15 yards of him", yes, you are correct. Schaub wasn't exactly dropping them in the ol' pickle barrel on Sunday.
yes, but why were so many of those passes so off? i didn't see him bouncing passes like that to anybody else
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Kubiak has a microphone and Schaub has a speaker in his helmet. Schaub doesn't have to call anything. Not that he shouldn't be allowed to, just that the coach calling the plays shouldn't prohibit a hurry-up offense.
I know that. But to hurry, the qb has to audible at the line to couter the d. Also, the headset does not work for the entire play clock.
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In your fantasy league, perhaps. Not in reality.
Oh, goody. Let's have this pointless debate again.
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In your fantasy league, perhaps. Not in reality.
Okay. Whatever you say. Carr was so shell shocked that he could not hit open receivers or progress past his first read.
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Oh, goody. Let's have this pointless debate again.
Nah. I'm done.
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yes, but why were so many of those passes so off? i didn't see him bouncing passes like that to anybody else
Because most of the other ones were knocked down at the line.
Seriously though, I don't know if Jones was running bad routes, but not many balls got to him.
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Okay. Whatever you say. Carr was so shell shocked that he could not hit open receivers or progress past his first read.
But he'd have scored a touchdown on that last play and won the game.
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Oh, goody. Let's have this pointless debate again.
When have we ever had a debate that wasn't pointless? We're not making government policy here, we're Monday morning QBing a football game.
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I know that. But to hurry, the qb has to audible at the line to couter the d.
Why is that any different than when they're not in the hurry up?
Also, the headset does not work for the entire play clock.
So? Again, how is that different than any other play call? They don't suddenly cut off the microphone just because the team's not in a huddle.
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Seriously though, I don't know if Jones was running bad routes, but not many balls got to him.
Jones runs terrible routes and Schaub is bizarrely inaccurate with his short passes. You pair those two guys and it's like the Three Stooges.
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Schaub is 10 times the qb that Carr was.
He is clearly better (not sure bout 10x though).
The problem is that good QBs have brains or balls, elite QBs have both, Schaub has neither.
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He is clearly b(not sure bout 10x though).
The problem is that good QBs have brains or balls, elite QBs have both, Schaub has neither.
Carr had balls. I'll give him that.
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He is clearly b(not sure bout 10x though).
The problem is that good QBs have brains or balls, elite QBs have both, Schaub has neither.
You are correct. Not having the latter is a shame because Schaub is plenty big enough.
Schaub is not an elite QB. He's fine for this system, but you can't ask him to carry the team or do more than be a cog in the wheel. He's simply not that elite talent.
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You are correct. Not having the latter is a shame because Schaub is plenty big enough.
Schaub is not an elite QB. He's fine for this system, but you can't ask him to carry the team or do more than be a cog in the wheel. He's simply not that elite talent.
The only elite talents on this team are injured.
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The only elite talent s on this team are is injured.
FIFHH
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The only elite talents on this team are injured.
Correct. except for foster, whom I would bet is not 100%. So this team is asking its slightly above average qb to be John Elway. Not gonna happen.
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Why is there so much hand-wringing over this team? It's not as if they're ever going to be better.
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Why is there so much hand-wringing over this team? It's not as if they're ever going to be better.
Because this statement could just as easily be made in the TZ.
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Why is there so much hand-wringing over this team? It's not as if they're ever going to be better.
Because we are fans.
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Why is there so much hand-wringing over this team? It's not as if they're ever going to be better.
Because they could be. They could be a 14-win team, if not for the head coach.
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Because they could be. They could be a 14-win team, if not for the head coach.
I agree with this statement. He will win just enough this yr to keep his job.
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Correct. except for foster, whom I would bet is not 100%. So this team is asking its slightly above average qb to be John Elway. Not gonna happen.
I'm not asking him to be John Elway. I'm just asking him to not step on his dick.
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I agree with this statement. He will win just enough this yr to keep his job.
The fact that he has it now is a plain-as-day indication that winning is irrelevant.
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I'm not asking him to be John Elway. I'm just asking him to not step on his dick.
you should be asking kubs this, not Schaub. He was trying to make a play. he also got us in position to win the game. what play was called? Who called it?
Texans had at least 6 different opportunities to put Oakland away. That is what is so frustrating to me. Not the last play of the game.
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And Jacoby sucks. 3yr 10 mil. Comonman!
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you should be asking kubs this, not Schaub. He was trying to make a play. he also got us in position to win the game. what play was called? Who called it?
Texans had at least 6 different opportunities to put Oakland away. That is what is so frustrating to me. Not the last play of the game.
They had a chance to put them away on the last play and Schaub stepped on his dick. Plain and simple. There is no other othe way to describe it. We can talk about plays in the 2nd quarter, the punting game, the halftime show, etc etc. But the bottom line is, the win was there for the taking. Schaub just had to take it. He didn't.
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Because they could be. They could be a 14-win team, if not for the head coach.
I am fully confident that any person on this board with common sense and good decision making abilities could literally add 1-2 wins a season for the Texans if brought in as a sideline consultant. This consultant does not need any detailed knowledge of football other than a simple grasp of the rules and general understanding of clock management. Kubiak would be relieved of his challenge and timeout responsibilities and would only focus on offensive play calling.
That is depressing.
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I am fully confident that any person on this board with common sense and good decision making abilities could literally add 1-2 wins a season for the Texans if brought in as a sideline consultant. This consultant does not need any detailed knowledge of football other than a simple grasp of the rules and general understanding of clock management. Kubiak would be relieved of his challenge and timeout responsibilities and would only focus on offensive play calling.
That is depressing.
Simmons' suggestion of coaching closers a couple of years ago was one I really loved. His example was Andy Reid, but Kubiak serves just as well.
Just picture:
The team gets the ball back with under three minutes to go. During the TV timeout, Enter Sandman/Hells Bells/whatever theme music hits. Reid/Kubes looks to the tunnel and nods grimly. And out from the tunnel comes running a guy with a fucking clue how to manage the end of the game. The crowd goes wild.
Face it, you'd love to see this, wouldn't you?
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Simmons' suggestion of coaching closers a couple of years ago was one I really loved. His example was Andy Reid, but Kubiak serves just as well.
Just picture:
The team gets the ball back with under three minutes to go. During the TV timeout, Enter Sandman/Hells Bells/whatever theme music hits. Reid/Kubes looks to the tunnel and nods grimly. And out from the tunnel comes running a guy with a fucking clue how to manage the end of the game. The crowd goes wild.
Face it, you'd love to see this, wouldn't you?
Assuming that it's not Jimmy Johnson...
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Assuming that it's not Jimmy Johnson...
Hey Jaws hold my beer...i got this.
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Jones runs terrible routes and Schaub is bizarrely inaccurate with his short passes. You pair those two guys and it's like the Three Stooges.
Synergy!
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Synergy!
So, if I understand what you're saying, if Schaub makes an infinite number of bad throws and Jones runs an infinite number of bad routes, eventually they'll engineer "The Drive" on the tip of a giant's fingernail?
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Because they could be. They could be a 14-win team, if not for the head coach.
When the owner cares, and not before.
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I'm not asking him to be John Elway. I'm just asking him to not step on his dick.
I'm confused. I thought they were all tripping over Kubiak's dick. Kubiak sure does have a big dick. That dick seems to be all over the place.
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I'm confused. I thought they were all tripping over Kubiak's dick. Kubiak sure does have a big dick. That dick seems to be all over the place.
Plenty of dick to go around.
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Plenty of dick to go around.
And no wrinkles.
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I'm confused. I thought they were all tripping over Kubiak's dick. Kubiak sure does have a big dick. That dick seems to be all over the place.
Let's just say that Kubiak's buffoonery cuts a wide path.
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Apparently they traded a conditional draft pick to the Ravens for Derrick Mason.
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Apparently they traded a conditional draft pick to the Ravens for Derrick Mason.
Jets, but still doesnt make any effing sense
Eta: it's only a 7th rounder so whatever.
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Jets, but still doesnt make any effing sense
Eta: it's only a 7th rounder so whatever.
How can it not make sense when Jacoby Jones is a starting WR for this team?
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How can it not make sense when Jacoby Jones is a starting WR for this team?
1) he's primarily a slot receiver. The Texans have Kevin Walter.
2) he is 37 years old.
3) he was more or less going to be cut from a team that has shittier WRs than the Texans.
My opinion is that similar production was probably available on practice squads, and I didn't see the need to give up anything for Mason. It's a seventh rounder though, so who cares? As you point out, he's probably an upgrade from Jacoby.
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1) he's primarily a slot receiver. The Texans have Kevin Walter.
2) he is 37 years old.
3) he was more or less going to be cut from a team that has shittier WRs than the Texans.
My opinion is that similar production was probably available on practice squads, and I didn't see the need to give up anything for Mason. It's a seventh rounder though, so who cares? As you point out, he's probably an upgrade from Jacoby.
Texans #1 wide receiver last weekend caught 1 pass out of the 11 that were thrown to him. Texans need a WR who can block, run good routes, and actually catch the passes that are thrown to him-- show me a practice squad guy who can jump right in and do that for a playoff team and you should be GM. This is such a good trade I'm actually kind-of shocked it was the Texans who pulled it off.
Telling stat:
Mason this year, as the #3 receiver on a conservative offense with a mediocre QB: 13 catches for 115 yards (through only four games)
Texans receivers in a potent offense that throws all over the field:
Jacoby 8/100, Walter 9/130
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Yeah, I had a brain fart on the team. D'oh!
I like the move. Low risk, could have a decent reward. He is better than some of what we got, and if he's not, we move on to the next option.
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Texans #1 wide receiver last weekend caught 1 pass out of the 11 that were thrown to him. Texans need a WR who can block, run good routes, and actually catch the passes that are thrown to him-- show me a practice squad guy who can jump right in and do that for a playoff team and you should be GM.
Is Robert Boucher Jr. available?
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My apologies if Cabrera'd, but here ya go nevertheless... Video: Raiders had 10 men on the field for game-clinching play (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Raiders-had-10-men-on-the-field-for-game-?urn=nfl-wp9357)
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My apologies if Cabrera'd, but here ya go nevertheless... Video: Raiders had 10 men on the field for game-clinching play (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Raiders-had-10-men-on-the-field-for-game-?urn=nfl-wp9357)
Great. They're even more incompetent than we thought.
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Great. They're even more incompetent than we thought.
That was DAMN good defense for only having 10 guys on the field. Also, I do not think Schaub had a snowballs chance in hell of running that in...
Edited: Looks like 83 had his guy posted up...that is where Schaub should have gone with the ball. Guess it is easy to say that now.
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That was DAMN good defense for only having 10 guys on the field. Also, I do not think Schaub had a snowballs chance in hell of running that in...
Edited: Looks like 83 had his guy posted up...that is where Schaub should have gone with the ball. Guess it is easy to say that now.
The hole in the defense was the one that Schaub eschewed. Had he hit the hole at speed and angled away from the safety, I would've been gobsmacked had he not been able to get the ball across the plane. Regardless, coming up short would've been better than what he did, which was a complete cop out.
Now that the initial burn of the loss is subsiding, what's left if a serious, lingering and, in my case, inflamed doubt over Schaub's ability to get going when the going gets tough.
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The hole in the defense was the one that Schaub eschewed. Had he hit the hole at speed and angled away from the safety, I would've been gobsmacked had he not been able to get the ball across the plane. Regardless, coming up short would've been better than what he did, which was a complete cop out.
Now that the initial burn of the loss is subsiding, what's left if a serious, lingering and, in my case, inflamed doubt over Schaub's ability to get going when the going gets tough.
Dude, Schaub was at the 9 when he pumped (and the saftey did not bite) while the saftey was about two yards deep in the end zone, headed down-hill. NO WAY Schaub wins that battle.
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Dude, Schaub was at the 9 when he pumped (and the saftey did not bite) while the saftey was about two yards deep in the end zone, headed down-hill. NO WAY Schaub wins that battle.
That, we will never know.
What we do know is that he had a number of choices, including:
- taking on the run;
- whizzing the ball into touch and getting another play; and
- back-tracking further to give a receiver time to get open.
What he did was panic, and throw a dreadful pass straight to a DB. Not for the first time with the game on the line. I'd rather he fail on the run attempt than try to throw that weak-ass shit past Jeff Keppinger the DB.
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That, we will never know.
What we do know is that he had a number of choices, including:
- taking on the run;
- whizzing the ball into touch and getting another play; and
- back-tracking further to give a receiver time to get open.
What he did was panic, and throw a dreadful pass straight to a DB. Not for the first time with the game on the line. I'd rather he fail on the run attempt than try to throw that weak-ass shit past Jeff Keppinger the DB.
I agree and understand your frustration. option 2 ideal, 3 OK and 1 being being absolutely defendable
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That was DAMN good defense for only having 10 guys on the field. Also, I do not think Schaub had a snowballs chance in hell of running that in...
Edited: Looks like 83 had his guy posted up...that is where Schaub should have gone with the ball. Guess it is easy to say that now.
Yeah if you go here (http://www.battleredblog.com/2011/10/11/2473210/2dh-freedom-of-speech-or-why-i-dont-go-to-jail-for-describing-jacoby) there's a pretty good breakdown of the play and where mistakes were made. There's a field of vision screen shot of Schaub as he pump fakes and you can see Walter posted up. You can also see Dressen come open in the back middle of the endzone, but Schaub had turned his shoulder away at that point.
What I didn't notice watching it live was how Jacoby broke towards the middle of the field which prompted Schaub's throw. Unfortunately he broke back outside as soon as the ball left Schaub's hand. Lots and lots of dick stepping by many parties.
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Yeah if you go here (http://www.battleredblog.com/2011/10/11/2473210/2dh-freedom-of-speech-or-why-i-dont-go-to-jail-for-describing-jacoby) there's a pretty good breakdown of the play and where mistakes were made. There's a field of vision screen shot of Schaub as he pump fakes and you can see Walter posted up. You can also see Dressen come open in the back middle of the endzone, but Schaub had turned his shoulder away at that point.
What I didn't notice watching it live was how Jacoby broke towards the middle of the field which prompted Schaub's throw. Unfortunately he broke back outside as soon as the ball left Schaub's hand. Lots and lots of dick stepping by many parties.
That's actually pretty badass, with a bonus swipe at the TX DPS.
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Yeah if you go here (http://www.battleredblog.com/2011/10/11/2473210/2dh-freedom-of-speech-or-why-i-dont-go-to-jail-for-describing-jacoby) there's a pretty good breakdown of the play and where mistakes were made. There's a field of vision screen shot of Schaub as he pump fakes and you can see Walter posted up. You can also see Dressen come open in the back middle of the endzone, but Schaub had turned his shoulder away at that point.
What I didn't notice watching it live was how Jacoby broke towards the middle of the field which prompted Schaub's throw. Unfortunately he broke back outside as soon as the ball left Schaub's hand. Lots and lots of dick stepping by many parties.
Sitting in the end-zone during the play. Saw JJ's dumb-shit ad-lib'ing. Also saw Schaub ignore Walters on a number of plays, along with Anderson (not relevant to final play). For all the impressive stats this offense puts up, it does not look very polished. I attribute much of that to AJ being out. It says little about the team's depth at WR.
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Dude, Schaub was at the 9 when he pumped (and the saftey did not bite) while the saftey was about two yards deep in the end zone, headed down-hill. NO WAY Schaub wins that battle.
Then he's a way bigger pussy than I thought.
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Anybody else see how the Texans signed Trindon Holliday today? Not to the practice squad, but to the big team. So, yesterday the Texans trade for a veteran #2/3 receiver, and today they sign a guy who can return kicks and nothing else. Not hard to see who Kubiak blames for the loss on Sunday.
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Then he's a way bigger pussy than I thought.
Seems to me that with a head of steam, he should plow the safety very easily. He has no _______ to play.
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Seems to me that with a head of steam, he should plow the safety very easily. He has no _______ to play.
Exactly. Schaub is 6'5" 250 lbs...he shouldn't try and make that guy miss, he should square up, lower his head, scream if he has to, and charge the line like he's fucking William Wallace with his ass on fire. It's football dammit.
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Exactly. Schaub is 6'5" 250 lbs...he shouldn't try and make that guy miss, he should square up, lower his head, scream if he has to, and charge the line like he's fucking William Wallace with his ass on fire. It's football dammit.
Yeah, That saftey was only 6' 205, so Matt would have definately won that battle. Hey, Im 6'2" 220, I could have run him over as well!! If you think that matt Schaub has the explosiveness to run over a strong saftey you are delusional. A friend of mine who played running back for Sam Houston used to tell me he was not nearly as worried about Dlinemen or Line Backers, rather the "200 pound bullets flying at him from the defensive backfield" (safteys). Also, I take it you have played football, so tell me this: How is a guy 6'5" goig to get the leverage to run over a 6' strong saftey? Get on his knees??
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Yeah, That saftey was only 6' 205, so Matt would have definately won that battle. Hey, Im 6'2" 220, I could have run him over as well!! If you think that matt Schaub has the explosiveness to run over a strong saftey you are delusional.
He doesn't need explosiveness, he needs guts.
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He doesn't need explosiveness, he needs guts.
BS.
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He doesn't need explosiveness, he needs guts.
good grief. guts are great, but they are not overtaking a guy that squats 500 pounds, runs a 4.5 and tackles running backs for a living.
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good grief. guts are great, but they are not overtaking a guy that squats 500 pounds, runs a 4.5 and tackles running backs for a living.
he might have made the wrong decision to string out the play, but no way he makes it into the endzone running. That is not his game. It also does not show he has any less guts because he didnt run.
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It would be nice if the Texans were able to play consistently after an early lead and not have to rely on Schaub to make a play with 7 seconds left on the clock.
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he might have made the wrong decision to string out the play, but no way he makes it into the endzone running. That is not his game. It also does not show he has any less guts because he didnt run.
In the hierarchy of decision-making on that play, taking on the run was not as bad as what he actually chose to do. Going for it and coming up short would have been a more honorable way to lose than lobbing a pass to a BD (JJ's culpability in this notwithstanding).
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In the hierarchy of decision-making on that play, taking on the run was not as bad as what he actually chose to do. Going for it and coming up short would have been a more honorable way to lose than lobbing a pass to a BD (JJ's culpability in this notwithstanding).
True, however it is on the coach for putting him into that situation. Call a quick hit play, if it is not there throw the dang ball away. Split second decision. If he has it all to do over, different result. Schaub running is not the way to score td's from the 5.
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In the hierarchy of decision-making on that play, taking on the run was not as bad as what he actually chose to do. Going for it and coming up short would have been a more honorable way to lose than lobbing a pass to a BD (JJ's culpability in this notwithstanding).
Hell, I think it took a lot of balls to throw that pass. He saw a one in a million shot at success and took it, come hell or high water. Hooey! He's a gunslinger!
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good grief. guts are great, but they are not overtaking a guy that squats 500 pounds, runs a 4.5 and tackles running backs for a living.
Speed and squatting ability mean...well squat. This is football, not chess. Run the fucker over or lose some blood trying.
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Hell, I think it took a lot of balls to throw that pass. He saw a one in a million shot at success and took it, come hell or high water. Hooey! He's a gunslinger!
My sarcasm metre (European model) is fully functioning. However, in this vein, pudnits on SNF were asked if Rogers > Faav'ruh and the unanimous opinion was "Yes, because he throws way fewer interceptions."
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True, however it is on the coach for putting him into that situation. Call a quick hit play, if it is not there throw the dang ball away. Split second decision. If he has it all to do over, different result. Schaub running is not the way to score td's from the 5.
Jesus, we're not talking about calling a QB draw into a stacked line. We're talking about him being one on one with a safety at the two yard line. I agree that the call was fucked up. But at some point Schaub has to make a decision. If you can't rely on him to make a good one, what's the point? You might as well have Tony Romo.
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Jesus, we're not talking about calling a QB draw into a stacked line. We're talking about him being one on one with a safety at the two yard line. I agree that the call was fucked up. But at some point Schaub has to make a decision. If you can't rely on him to make a good one, what's the point? You might as well have Tony Romo.
Yes!
bad decision on his part, that we can agree on. I was yelling run at the tv while the play was developing. I re-watched several times and think there is no way he beats that safety to end zone.
Again Split second decision, one that I am sure he would like back. Has nothing to do with his manhood.
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Again Split second decision, one that I am sure he would like back. Has nothing to do with his manhood.
I'm not questioning the size of his penis...
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Yes!
bad decision on his part, that we can agree on. I was yelling run at the tv while the play was developing. I re-watched several times and think there is no way he beats that safety to end zone.
Right. He doesn't beat the safety to the end zone. But the safety would not have hit him head on. He was coming at an angle which means he's not going to stop Schaub cold. Hit him at the 2 and all Schaub has to do is fall forward with the ball extended. Schaub has no faith in his physicality.
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I'm not questioning the size of his penis...
At this point, I'm not sure he even has one.
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At this point, I'm not sure he even has one.
by the way limey, did you see this yet:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-texans/09000d5d823131fb/Sound-FX-Kubiak-and-Schaub
looks like schaub actually does do a lot of that intense rah rah leader stuff
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Jesus, we're not talking about calling a QB draw into a stacked line. We're talking about him being one on one with a safety at the two yard line. I agree that the call was fucked up. But at some point Schaub has to make a decision. If you can't rely on him to make a good one, what's the point? You might as well have Tony Romo.
If that was the case I would agree. Schaub was at the 9, saftey about two yards deep (at the time of the pump to try and freeze the saftey - which the saftey did not bite on). Saftey is much faster than Schaub. The would have met around the 5. He ain't pushing a guy stronger than he is 15 feet into the end zone. He fucked up not throwing the ball away...his descision not to run for it was actually wise.
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Saftey is much faster than Schaub.
That's an understatment. I'm not sure there's a slower player in the NFL than Schaub.
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That's an understatment. I'm not sure there's a slower player in the NFL than Schaub.
Payton..maybe. Take an hour in the hundy to find out.
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It's going to be a long day. Buckle up.
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Oddly, Schaub has made some really accurate throws a couple of times.
Not holding my breath.
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Oddly, Schaub has made some really accurate throws a couple of times.
Not holding my breath.
Jinxed him
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Jinxed him
My bad. I knew better.
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It's annoying that the team signed Holliday to demonstrate to Jacoby that his play was not acceptable and then don't activate him.
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So, I got to hope this Reed kid can hold it down.
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Is it bad when Flacco makes your QB look bad?
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Why was that not a fumble or intentional grounding?
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Why was that not a fumble or intentional grounding?
Thought it should be grounding too - might have thrown towards someone's feet
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Thought it should be grounding too - might have thrown towards someone's feet
Only saw linemen.
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whatever.
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What a fucking idiot.
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Tackle the DL, but the DL gets the penalty. Twice.
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Nice stop on D.
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Nice facemask.
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Kubiak is so terrible
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Excellent heads up play by Smith
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Is it college where you can't fumble forward for a TD?
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Is it college where you can't fumble forward for a TD?
I thought the same thing, maybe it was because it was batted out of his hands?
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Well, it is a closer game than I thought it would be at this point.
Of course, the bad hal is about to start.
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Boom. Jacoby shows up
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Now *that* was a well thrown ball.
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Now *that* was a well thrown ball.
I'm still trying to process a good pass and JJ catching it for a TD.
Is this one of those 10000000 monkeys with typewriters thing?
On the other hand, there is still lots of time on the clock.
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Why is Kareem Jackson in the NFL?
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Why is Kareem Jackson in the NFL?
Is he left handed?
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Big stop
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Damn. Wheldon died from that indy car wreck in Vegas today
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No way that timeout could possibly come in handy at the end of the game.
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Gotta have a stop here.
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No way that timeout could possibly come in handy at the end of the game.
Actually, didn't they hold the throw down time out longer than normal?
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Well if dives between the center and guard are gonna go for 20 yards a pop, might as well go home.
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Actually, didn't they hold the throw down time out longer than normal?
It's just irritating that the Texans wind up in bad situations because the coach isn't smart enough to think a move ahead.
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It's just irritating that the Texans wind up in bad situations because the coach isn't smart enough to think a move ahead.
It seemed they weren't sure what they were going to do coming back from the TO, either. It seemed to be a good, even if broken, play, but they could have come straight out after having the time. I know I am nitpicking now.
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Fuck! Let's waste another one.
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Another time out....
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Fuck I miss David Carr.
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Fuck I miss David Carr.
I might even miss sage rosenfels at this point.
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Whomever the fuck #29 is, he's pointless.
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Totally unexpected late defensive struggle.
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Well 3-3 after 6....whatever.
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(good for ricky...)
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(good for ricky...)
Screw ricky.
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no reason to hurry up to the line down by 2 scores and a questionable call in your favor....
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Well 3-3 after 6....whatever.
On their way to another 6 win season. Yeehaw.
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No! It did touch!
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That didn't even make sense
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My god. They completely blew that call. I went back and there was one perfect view from downfield and it clearly touched the ground.
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My god. They completely blew that call. I went back and there was one perfect view from downfield and it clearly touched the ground.
they blew the it's a catch part, but there's any easy case to be made he didn't have the 1st down.
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My god. They completely blew that call. I went back and there was one perfect view from downfield and it clearly touched the ground.
The Texans were going to lose. No reason to completely fuck up any thought that the refs gave a damn about a fair game.
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they blew the it's a catch part, but there's any easy case to be made he didn't have the 1st down.
I'm still reserving the right to be outraged. Outraged!
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they blew the it's a catch part, but there's any easy case to be made he didn't have the 1st down.
I agree with this. It was an easy call that he made the catch.
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I'm still reserving the right to be outraged. Outraged!
And if the texans had any fucking urgency or situational awareness, they would have been on the line and run a play before it was even challenged. This team is brain dead. I was predicting 8-8 but I'm revising to 6-10. they seem to lose iq points each week.
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Seriously? 4th and 3 with a minute left and you run the ball up the middle?
I know infants who have more football smarts than Kubiak.
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And if the texans had any fucking urgency or situational awareness, they would have been on the line and run a play before it was even challenged. This team is brain dead. I was predicting 8-8 but I'm revising to 6-10. they seem to lose iq points each week.
Nope, they ill make at least 8 wins, onlt because their division sucks and AJ should make it back.
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Nope, they ill make at least 8 wins, onlt because their division sucks and AJ should make it back.
The way rice just ran all over this D, i have no faith in their ability to stop even JAX with MJD. that fucking bowling ball is going to just roll down the field.
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Schaub is nothing without AJ. I wouldn't mind taking a QB early in the draft next year to take over for Schaub over the next 2-3 years. Dude is getting old and is replaceable.
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The way rice just ran all over this D, i have no faith in their ability to stop even JAX with MJD. that fucking bowling ball is going to just roll down the field.
Ehh, they played pretty well on McFadden.
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Schaub is nothing without AJ. I wouldn't mind taking a QB early in the draft next year to take over for Schaub over the next 2-3 years. Dude is getting old and is replaceable.
Is my sarcasm meter busted or did you just tell me that water is wet?
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And the Bucs beat the Saints, so today wasn't too bad of a football day.
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And the Bucs beat the Saints, so today wasn't too bad of a football day.
Don't leave out that Da 'Boys blew another 4th quarter lead.
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Yesterday's 49ers vs. Lions game really highlights how inept the Texans have been organizationally. The Lions have rebounded from a 2-30 stretch over two years well into the Gary Kubiak era.
I'm not on any cliff here, but thankfully the addition of Wade Phillips and a couple competent secondary players has made it abundantly clear where the problem lies with this team. Am I confident that McNair will act decisively with this knowledge? No, I am not.
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They are who we thought they are.
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The Raiders just traded two (although one is conditional) first rounders for Carson Palmer. Unbelievable.
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The Raiders just traded two (although one is conditional) first rounders for Carson Palmer. Unbelievable.
Meanwhile, the Rams gave up a sixth-rounder for Brandon Lloyd. Seems like the Texans might have wanted in on that action, but I guess they were hamstrung by jumping the gun on Mason.
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Meanwhile, the Rams gave up a sixth-rounder for Brandon Lloyd. Seems like the Texans might have wanted in on that action, but I guess they were hamstrung by jumping the gun on Mason.
The details are unclear, but my guess is that the team was not impeded by the Mason deal. The 7th round pick the Texans offered is conditional upon Mason making 33 catches. Mason is paid the veteran minimum. If the Texans wanted Lloyd and knew he was available, the team could have probably waived Mason, incurred no expense, and still landed Lloyd.
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I thought he had a decent guaranteed amount for next year?
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I thought he had a decent guaranteed amount for next year?
There is no guaranteed money in the NFL*.
* Signing bonuses excepted.
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Mason seemed like a good deal. No one is going to make up for AJ, but gives them a little depth and experience.
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Mason seemed like a good deal. No one is going to make up for AJ, but gives them a little depth and experience.
Depth I'll concede, but experience? The guy is old as balls, and the Texans have plenty of experience in the receiving corp with or without Andre and/or Mason. Don't bother rehashing radio talk platitudes for us.
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Depth I'll concede, but experience? The guy is old as balls, and the Texans have plenty of experience in the receiving corp with or without Andre and/or Mason. Don't bother rehashing radio talk platitudes for us.
Ok but they gave up practically nothing. You can't tell me this is a bad deal unless Mason strangles Andre in the locker room or something.
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Ok but they gave up practically nothing. You can't tell me this is a bad deal unless Mason strangles Andre in the locker room or something.
Agree - the Mason deal was structured to have little downside for the Texans. The point that others were making was that the league's leading receiver from last season was acquired for a comparable price shortly thereafter.
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Depth I'll concede, but experience? The guy is old as balls, and the Texans have plenty of experience in the receiving corp with or without Andre and/or Mason. Don't bother rehashing radio talk platitudes for us.
Actually, I think you need to reverse your nouns. He brings experience, but depth...?
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Agree - the Mason deal was structured to have little downside for the Texans. The point that others were making was that the league's leading receiver from last season was acquired for a comparable price shortly thereafter.
Well he's making 500k less and his trade price was lower. I don't think it matters. Lloyd would have been nice, but if Andre can't get back in the next 2-3 weeks, this team is done regardless of who is lined up wide.
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Well he's making 500k less and his trade price was lower. I don't think it matters. Lloyd would have been nice, but if Andre can't get back in the next 2-3 weeks, this team is done regardless of who is lined up wide.
If this team doesn't win on Sunday then they likely won't be delaying the inevitable.
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Manning gone. The secondary is going to get torched.
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Manning gone. The secondary is going to get torched.
I couldn't tell if it was a knee or a hamstring. Could you?
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I couldn't tell if it was a knee or a hamstring. Could you?
Looks like his knee or ankle. He landed on the inside of his leg
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What a great open-field cut! Bad Mother Fucker
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difference between arian foster and chris johnson: foster is ALWAYS going forward
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More differences, Foster is tougher, Johnson faster.
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More differences, Foster is tougher, Johnson faster.
Foster is bigger too.
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Manning gone. The secondary is going to get torched.
As long as Kareem Jackson is on the field, they're going to get torched.
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More differences, Foster is tougher, Johnson faster.
foster also rarely takes direct hits. he's always slashing, always looking for that seam. the difference even between he and tate and ward is pretty huge in terms of running instincts
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I'm going to have to go ahead and give Johnson the nod in the orthodonture department.
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Since nobody's brought it up yet, I'll say it: Cortland Finnegan is a little pussy.
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Who the fuck is No. 31 and why is he on the field?
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Who the fuck is No. 31 and why is he on the field?
Fucking Shiloh Keo, some stupid motherfucker who's a special project of Wade's. When he's not committing stupid fucking penalties he's getting torched. Get him the fuck off the field. FUCK.
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Fuck. That's on Foster. The first down was there easily, but he tried to cut it back to the outside.
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Fuck. That's on Foster. The first down was there easily, but he tried to cut it back to the outside.
looked to be just as much on vickers. chose to block the outside man instead of the inside and foster followed
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looked to be just as much on vickers. chose to block the outside man instead of the inside and foster followed
Foster could have easily picked up a couple of yards. He got greedy. You can't do that on 4th and inches. Get the inches and move the chains.
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Foster could have easily picked up a couple of yards. He got greedy. You can't do that on 4th and inches. Get the inches and move the chains.
don't think it's greed. he's just following his block
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don't think it's greed. he's just following his block
No he didn't. His blockers opened a hole for him. He wouldn't run through it.
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No he didn't. His blockers opened a hole for him. He wouldn't run through it.
he's coached to follow his fullback, and that's what he did. yes, he probably still could have gotten it if he'd cut inside, but he was clearly following vickers. you can't call him "greedy" for that.
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Let me interrupt you gentlemen for a moment to complain about the stupid fucking third down call.
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he's coached to follow his fullback, and that's what he did. yes, he probably still could have gotten it if he'd cut inside, but he was clearly following vickers. you can't call him "greedy" for that.
OK, it's clear you have no concept of how the stretch play works. Continue to wallow in your ignorance.
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Let me interrupt you gentlemen for a moment to complain about the stupid fucking third down call.
Actually, I have few complaints about the play calling to this point.
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Man, Rackers really laid a lick on that kid. I wonder what the coaches think about that.
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Man, Rackers really laid a lick on that kid. I wonder what the coaches think about that.
Probably went all Lou Brown on him..."Nice hit...don't ever fucking do it again".
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That was pretty
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They are beating the only viable division challenger 41-7 at their place - not much to bitch about this week.
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Except that I picked chris johnson in the first round of my fantasy league, that sack of shit
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Did you fellows know that up until very recently there was not a single book store within the city limits of Nashville? Apparently a couple of do-gooders with too much time on their hands opened an independent store recently. It will close in short order, certainly, but it's still worth noting. I do recognize that the average Nashville resident is more likely to use a time-honored family recipe for stewed squirrel rather than pop in to Barnes and Noble to browse their cookbooks for trendy rodent dishes but still, where are these people going to buy their find-a-word puzzle books?
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I guess instructions on meth cooking and sister fucking are passed in more of an oral tradition?
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I guess instructions on meth cooking and sister fucking are passed in more of an oral tradition?
Meth cooking would be passed on orally, sure. I would think that sister fucking just sort of comes naturally.
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Did you fellows know that up until very recently there was not a single book store within the city limits of Nashville? Apparently a couple of do-gooders with too much time on their hands opened an independent store recently. It will close in short order, certainly, but it's still worth noting. I do recognize that the average Nashville resident is more likely to use a time-honored family recipe for stewed squirrel rather than pop in to Barnes and Noble to browse their cookbooks for trendy rodent dishes but still, where are these people going to buy their find-a-word puzzle books?
Dollar General or Family Dollar?
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Dollar General or Family Dollar?
Well, I do know they sell large print versions of those Left Behind books at Wal-Mart. But everything in their literature section is set down at rascal level so I've never really examined their stock too closely.
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I couldn't tell if it was a knee or a hamstring. Could you?
Fractured Fibula (great band name)
Out 4+ weeks (http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-safety-Manning-undergoes-surgery-on-broken-2234020.php), but not placed on IR
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Fractured Fibula (great band name)
Out 4+ weeks (http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-safety-Manning-undergoes-surgery-on-broken-2234020.php), but not placed on IR
Son of a bisque....
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Fractured Fibula (great band name)
Out 4+ weeks (http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-safety-Manning-undergoes-surgery-on-broken-2234020.php), but not placed on IR
That's not great news. I think he's been a significant factor in the secondary's not-totally-worthless performance this year.
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That's not great news.
I very much look forward to 4 weeks of HH and Chuck bitching. Capistrano, Easter Bunny, swallows, keebler, profit? etc....
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I very much look forward to 4 weeks of HH and Chuck bitching. Capistrano, Easter Bunny, swallows, keebler, profit? etc....
Four weeks of bitching sounds like an optimistic prognosis at this juncture.
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Good grief. The two teams that beat the Texans in the previous two games are both going to be shut out this week. And not by good teams, either.
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Good grief. The two teams that beat the Texans in the previous two games are both going to be shut out this week. And not by good teams, either.
That's the NFL
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I very much look forward to 4 weeks of HH and Chuck bitching. Capistrano, Easter Bunny, swallows, keebler, profit? etc....
What? What the hell did I do?
I say move Kareem to safety and solve two problems with one stroke.
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I say move Kareem to safety and solve two problems with one stroke.
If "safety" is a CFL team, I agree.
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If "safety" is a CFL team, I agree.
how come people think you can move a slow corner to safety and all will work out. Safety is not a catch all position.
Hell, why not move him to linebacker?
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how come people think you can move a slow corner to safety and all will work out. Safety is not a catch all position.
Hell, why not move him to linebacker?
I don't care what the fuck he plays as long as it's not cornerback.
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how come people think you can move a slow corner to safety and all will work out. Safety is not a catch all position.
Hell, why not move him to linebacker?
Cornerbacks who can hit but can't keep up on coverage any longer often make good safeties. In Jackson's case, he can neither hit nor cover.
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Cornerbacks who can hit but can't keep up on coverage any longer often make good safeties. In Jackson's case, he can neither hit nor cover.
He can hit ok. The problem is that he is only in position to hit someone by accident.
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He can hit ok. The problem is that he is only in position to hit someone by accident.
It's been my observation that he tackles just fine once the man he's covering slows down a step or so to catch the ball that's been thrown to him.
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Any value in Houston going after Chris Harris, formerly of the bears, to replace Manning at FS?
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Cushing looked like a pro wrestler dropping that elbow across Gabbert's mid-section.
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Cushing looked like a pro wrestler dropping that elbow across Gabbert's mid-section.
I wouldn't be surprised to see that producing a fine later in the week. It was a pretty questionable shot.
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Hey chuck, I'm in reliant and I have a great att signal.
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Whoever is advising Kubiak about challenges should be fired.
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Hey chuck, I'm in reliant and I have a great att signal.
Well, what the fuck. Hudson sits in the south end zone, mezzanine level. Where are you?
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Whoever is advising Kubiak about challenges should be fired.
If he's using the extended time to figure out something clever to do on fourth down I can live with it. But he's not. Kubiak, challenge dumbass, CONFIRMED.
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Well, what the fuck. Hudson sits in the south end zone, mezzanine level. Where are you?
Club section in the southwest corner.
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We've secretly replaced the Jaguars' offense with their defense. Let's see if there's any difference.
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I don't understand how Schaub can be so completely unaware of where the pressure is.
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Kareem Jackson beaten for the TD. Please explain to me why this man is on the roster.
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Kareem Jackson beaten for the TD. Please explain to me why this man is on the roster.
How do you get beaten by two steps on a five-yard route that doesn't involve a pick play?
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I don't understand how Schaub can be so completely unaware of where the pressure is.
He's got the pocket awareness of Helen Keller.
Are these slapdicks ever going to figure out that Jackson can't play? When are they going to admit that they fucked that pick up? Come on you dumb fuckers, man up to it and sit his ass down.
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That extra timeout might have been useful right about now, huh, Gary?
And now fucking Rackers misses the kick. What a frustrating team.
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As frustrating as the Texans are, they've got nothing on the Saints. How can you beat Indy by 50+ points one week and then fall behind St Louis by 17 the next (while getting shut out, no less)?
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As frustrating as the Texans are, they've got nothing on the Saints. How can you beat Indy by 50+ points one week and then fall behind St Louis by 17 the next (while getting shut out, no less)?
There is all kinds of weird shit going on all over the league right now. Baltimore getting pounded by Arizona at home, Miami up on New York on the road. I'm afraid this game falls into that category also.
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I bet Marv Albert's glad this is turning out to be such a close contest. I know he likes a game he can really sink his teeth into.
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When Kareem Jackson is on the field the Jags move the ball. When he's not they don't. It's that simple.
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Another stupid challenge. These guys are retarded.
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Whoever is advising Kubiak about challenges should be fired.
The first one was a responsible challenge. The second was a wasted timeout.
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Well, what the fuck. Hudson sits in the south end zone, mezzanine level. Where are you?
Actually I'm on the field level. Don't know if that makes a difference or not.
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I bet Marv Albert's glad this is turning out to be such a close contest. I know he likes a game he can really sink his teeth into.
Zing!
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Actually I'm on the field level. Don't know if that makes a difference or not.
No, I know where you are. To me field level is the same as mezzanine. I may be misusing the word.
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No, I know where you are. To me field level is the same as mezzanine. I may be misusing the word.
Not sure, but it's pretty open there. I'd get wet if it were to rain with the roof open. Maybe that gives me a clearer signal, less interference or something.
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I was there today too. Perfect day for football.
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Probably the least amount of dick stepping upon all year.
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Probably the least amount of dick stepping upon all year.
This.
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Probably the least amount of dick stepping upon all year.
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Yep, this one was over as soon as it started.
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7-3 going into the bye would be something
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7-3 going into the bye would be something
They should be favorites in every game from here on out, by more than a touchdown in most of 'em. Anything worse than 12-4 would be shocking. The AFC playoffs will have some pretty interesting matchups.
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The one Bucs game I will miss this year and it's the Texans. Not sure if their 6-3 is legit but I can say for sure the Bucs' 4-4 is.
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The one Bucs game I will miss this year and it's the Texans. Not sure if their 6-3 is legit but I can say for sure the Bucs' 4-4 is.
Legit in the fact it is the absolute worst record they could possibly have. They should be 8-1. That being said, Go Bucs!! No chance they win, though, as Santa brought one of my presents early last night (Bears W). I love it when the Iggles lose, especially when DeSean Jackson AND Mike Vick have crucial roles in the L.
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Legit in the fact it is the absolute worst record they could possibly have. They should be 8-1.
This.
The loss to the Saints seems to have woken up the defense (a little). Was it my imagination, or was Kareem Jackson conspicuous by his absence until garbage time on Sunday?
The loss to the Raiders seems to have focused the offense in the red zone. Schaub has run in two TDs in two weeks since.
Kubiak is still as dumb as fuck, and needs to be relieved of challenge decision-making at least, but the offensive and defensive coaches are seeing the same shit we are, and are working on it.
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Kareem played virtually the entire game Sunday and delivered his best performance ever. This is relative, of course, but the reason you didn't notice him is that he wasn't continually being torched for long gains and abused into PI penalties like he usually is.
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Kareem played virtually the entire game Sunday and delivered his best performance ever. This is relative, of course, but the reason you didn't notice him is that he wasn't continually being torched for long gains and abused into PI penalties like he usually is.
That's because Cleveland has no WRs.
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That's because Cleveland has no WRs.
That's part of it. Another part is that your boy Colt was running for his life a lot of the time.
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Kareem played virtually the entire game Sunday and delivered his best performance ever. This is relative, of course, but the reason you didn't notice him is that he wasn't continually being torched for long gains and abused into PI penalties like he usually is.
Jabbar is in the NFL now?
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Still not sure if keeping Kubiak was the right decision, but bringing in Wade has been gold so far.
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That's part of it. Another part is that your boy Colt was running for his life a lot of the time.
And he can't pass when he wasn't. That's simply a bad passing offense. Really bad.
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And he can't pass when he wasn't. That's simply a bad passing offense. Really bad.
Added to that is the fact that Cleveland's WRs make Jacoby Jones look like an All Star.
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Added to that is the fact that Cleveland's WRs make Jacoby Jones look like an All Star.
Cribbs isn't horrible, but the whole offense (protection, receivers, backs, quarterback) isn't geared to a downfield passing game.
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Um why the hell are the cowboys on cbs? No Texans tv today?
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both teams play at noon on cbs but texans are on in houston.
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Um why the hell are the cowboys on cbs? No Texans tv today?
An AFC team visiting an NFC team results in a CBS broadcast. Houston fans get more sports related assfucking from the Metroplex.
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An AFC team visiting an NFC team results in a CBS broadcast. Houston fans get more sports related assfucking from the Metroplex.
How so? Dallas is the one getting the fucking blackout
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How so? Dallas is the one getting the fucking blackout
Who cares about Dallas? Everywhere in the state other than Houston is getting the Dallas game rather than the Texans game. If you're a Texans fan in Austin, San Antonio, Corpus, wherever, you're fucked.
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Who cares about Dallas? Everywhere in the state other than Houston is getting the Dallas game rather than the Texans game. If you're a Texans fan in Austin, San Antonio, Corpus, wherever, you're fucked.
Two words: Sunday Ticket.
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Two words: Sunday Ticket.
You don't have to tell me, chief, I'm happily watching the game from thousands of miles away. The internet package available for the NFL is so superior in every way to the internet package that the MLB offers that it's embarrassing. It's just another example of how the NFL is by far the superior organization.
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You don't have to tell me, chief, I'm happily watching the game from thousands of miles away. The internet package available for the NFL is so superior in every way to the internet package that the MLB offers that it's embarrassing. It's just another example of how the NFL is by far the superior organization.
When it comes to encouraging people to watch their games, the NFL runs circles around MLB.
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When it comes to encouraging people to watch their games, the NFL runs circles around MLB.
Or, anymore, giving people a reason to watch the games.
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You don't have to tell me, chief, I'm happily watching the game from thousands of miles away. The internet package available for the NFL is so superior in every way to the internet package that the MLB offers that it's embarrassing. It's just another example of how the NFL is by far the superior organization.
Is that NFL RedZone or something else?
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Is that NFL RedZone or something else?
I have something called NFL Game Pass. It's not available in the US or anywhere else where they think you can buy Sunday Ticket on DirecTV. I guess that is one area where the MLB package is better. Anyway, the broadcast quality is vastly superior and I can watch up to four games at a time.
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I have something called NFL Game Pass. It's not available in the US or anywhere else where they think you can buy Sunday Ticket on DirecTV. I guess that is one area where the MLB package is better. Anyway, the broadcast quality is vastly superior and I can watch up to four games at a time.
Superior to what, normal OTA? Sunday Ticket you can watch every game.
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I have the Sunday ticket mobile and it's fucking awesome. Stream HD quality on my iPad, jut works perfectly. Have to be a Sunday ticket subscriber though
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I have the Sunday ticket mobile and it's fucking awesome. Stream HD quality on my iPad, jut works perfectly. Have to be a Sunday ticket subscriber though
I love sitting in the parking lot after Texans games and watching a 3:00 game on my iPhone.
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I love sitting in the parking lot after Texans games and watching a 3:00 game on my iPhone.
Also if you call them up and ask for a discount on Sunday Ticket, you can get a pretty good deal. I got half off plus free mobile just for calling.
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Superior to what, normal OTA? Sunday Ticket you can watch every game.
No, I mean the MLB internet package does not limit subscribers to those who are outside the US. I can watch games over the intertubes in Houston if I want to, just not the Astros. My NFL package is blocked in the US.
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Who cares about Dallas?
More people (outrside their own market) that the Texans, that is for sure.
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Arian Foster is unbelievable.
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Your bucs look terrible HH
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Also if you call them up and ask for a discount on Sunday Ticket, you can get a pretty good deal. I got half off plus free mobile just for calling.
The mobile is free with Sunday Ticket anyway.
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Your bucs look terrible HH
Yes they do. They can't get off their dicks, apparently. But this has been typical for them this season.
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More people (outrside their own market) that the Texans, that is for sure.
You don't need to tell me that there are countless numbers of mindless lemmings who luxuriate in a cocoon of tepid ignorance and reflexive conformity. What I am telling you is that I dismiss that lamentable subset out of hand.
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The mobile is free with Sunday Ticket anyway.
I think in theory it's an extra 10 a month
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http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/sports/nfl_online_mobile
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Who cares about Dallas?
I don't care about Dallas but I care about the Cowboys.
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I don't care about Dallas but I care about the Cowboys.
Have you tried therapy?
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You don't need to tell me that there are countless numbers of mindless lemmings who luxuriate in a cocoon of tepid ignorance and reflexive conformity. What I am telling you is that I dismiss that lamentable subset out of hand.
I think you are trying to hurt my feelings.
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I think in theory it's an extra 10 a month
It's free for me. Perhaps it was a promotional thing...sign up for ST by a certain date, get the mobile deal for free.
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Watching the Texans on the TV, the Steelers/Bengals on my computer.
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It's free for me. Perhaps it was a promotional thing...sign up for ST by a certain date, get the mobile deal for free.
Like I said, they seem to just give shit away if you ask
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I think you are trying to hurt my feelings.
You are from San Antonio. You could have chosen any team; you chose the Cowboys. That is something you will have to reconcile with your God on the day of reckoning.
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The Bucs are a second half team. If the Texans aren't up by three touchdowns at the half, they're in trouble.
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You are from San Antonio. You could have chosen any team; you chose the Cowboys. That is something you will have to reconcile with your God on the day of reckoning.
I'm pretty confident my God doesn't give a shit about football teams. I just want him to keep my players healthy.
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KJ has looked a lot better (which granted isn't hard)
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Arian Foster is unbelievable.
I hear that Arian Foster is a bad mother...
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I hear that Arian Foster is a bad mother...
Shut your mouth!
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Total domination
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Shut your mouth!
But I'm talkin' 'bout Arian?
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I hear that Arian Foster is a bad mother...
How about some love for the OL? One of the best in the league now.
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The kicking game has not been good today.
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Tim Tebow just put a 60 yard ball on the money. Everything I know is wrong.
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The kicking game has not been good today.
It's very hard for me to believe Marciano is competent given that casserly and capers hired him
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Kubes with a 15 yard penalty for challenging a play that he can't challenge. Nice job coach...way to keep your head in the game.
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Kubiak finds a new way to fuck up a challenge.
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Kubes with a 15 yard penalty for challenging a play that he can't challenge. Nice job coach...way to keep your head in the game.
Fucking aggie
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Kubes with a 15 yard penalty for challenging a play that he can't challenge. Nice job coach...way to keep your head in the game.
I switched to red zone. WTF was this?
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I switched to red zone. WTF was this?
You can't challenge scoring plays. They're automatically reviewed.
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You can't challenge scoring plays. They're automatically reviewed.
Good lord. Without this guy they're the odds-on favorites to face Green Bay.
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You can't challenge scoring plays. They're automatically reviewed.
I really don't understand. Everyone knows Kubiak is a dumbass about these things. But why was someone in the booth not shouting THE PLAY WILL BE REVIEWED! KEEP THE FLAG IN YOUR POCKET!
I mean, what the fuck?
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Good lord. Without this guy they're the odds-on favorites to face Green Bay.
He's trying to squeeze 8 wins out of his 14-win talent.
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I really don't understand. Everyone knows Kubiak is a dumbass about these things. But why was someone in the booth not shouting THE PLAY WILL BE REVIEWED! KEEP THE FLAG IN YOUR POCKET!
I mean, what the fuck?
And shouldnt you wait until the team lines up for the next play to throw it? What was the rush?
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I really don't understand. Everyone knows Kubiak is a dumbass about these things. But why was someone in the booth not shouting THE PLAY WILL BE REVIEWED! KEEP THE FLAG IN YOUR POCKET!
I mean, what the fuck?
You're assuming they weren't and that Kubiak would pay attention to them anyway. Quite the assumption.
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Is Marv Albert even watching the game he's calling?
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You're assuming they weren't and that Kubiak would pay attention to them anyway. Quite the assumption.
He's got some big thing stuck on his ear. Maybe he just stands around listening to the Aggie War Hymn or Lum and Abner episodes.
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Is Marv Albert even watching the game he's calling?
YESS!!!
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How the fuck do the Texans have the best D in the NFL
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Why the fuck is Foster still in this game?
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I started Tate in fantasy for just this scenario. Please keep giving him the rock.
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How the fuck do the Texans have the best D in the NFL
Wade Phillips is quite a good DC.
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I started Tate in fantasy for just this scenario. Please keep giving him the rock.
That was a fucking beautiful run.
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I started Tate in fantasy for just this scenario. Please keep giving him the rock.
It was against me, but even I enjoyed that one
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Wade Phillips is quite a good DC.
Frank Bush must be one of the worst ever
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Frank Bush must be one of the worst ever
I think he's the one who taught the Bucs how to tackle.
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Holy shit. The entire Cleveland OL just fell down on a FG attempt, after the snap was rolled back.
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It was against me, but even I enjoyed that one
Arian's dropped nearly 25 on me today and I don't particularly mind.
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VY in for an injured Vick.
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VY in for an injured Vick.
Vick back in, needing a TD to win the game.
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overthrows his receiver for an int. couldn't happen to a better guy. congrats cards.
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It was against me, but even I enjoyed that one
How did you get the game? Do you have Sunday Ticket?
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Holy shit. The entire Cleveland OL just fell down on a FG attempt, after the snap was rolled back.
What happened? It was a bad snap and the line just gave up?
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What happened? It was a bad snap and the line just gave up?
Bad snap, center collapsed with it, and everyone just seemed to cave around him.
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How did you get the game? Do you have Sunday Ticket?
Yeah. Fuck KEYE
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The Texans are just mauling people right now. For the fourth straight week, they've simply run over a lesser opponent. The last two were over as soon as they started. In a way, I'm disappointed they have a bye next week...I'm ready for them to smack someone else.
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The Texans are just mauling people right now. For the fourth straight week, they've simply run over a lesser opponent. The last two were over as soon as they started. In a way, I'm disappointed they have a bye next week...I'm ready for them to smack someone else.
My hope is the return of Andre won't cause too much of a shift away from the run.
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My hope is the return of Andre won't cause too much of a shift away from the run.
I won't put it past Kubiak, he is a dumbshit. But I think they'll stick with what's been working.
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Arian Foster and Wade Phillips are going to carry Kubiak to a 1st round bye in the playoffs.
This team is scary with AJ back in the lineup.
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I won't put it past Kubiak, he is a dumbshit. But I think they'll stick with what's been working.
Hope so. There's no team remaining on the schedule that this team should not beat. 13-3, a bye and home-field advantage throughout the conference playoffs should be the goal at this point.
I'm still not convinced that this team won't step all over its dick in the playoffs but, hey! Kubiak won a challenge this weekend. Anything can happen!
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(813): "How was the music festival? You didn’t miss even a single (enjoyable) football play."
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(813): "How was the music festival? You didn’t miss even a single (enjoyable) football play."
You know, I was just thinking that this was a pretty decent game for you to have missed.
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Hope so. There's no team remaining on the schedule that this team should not beat. 13-3, a bye and home-field advantage throughout the conference playoffs should be the goal at this point.
First things first. Road game against a division opponent next. Let's just win that one. I like the way they've been businesslike the last few weeks. Clearly less talented teams, and the Texans have just run them over. No last second heroics needed...everyone's done his job and cleanly put the W in the book. That's what championship-caliber teams do.
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First things first. Road game against a division opponent next. Let's just win that one. I like the way they've been businesslike the last few weeks. Clearly less talented teams, and the Texans have just run them over. No last second heroics needed...everyone's done his job and cleanly put the W in the book. That's what championship-caliber teams do.
Yep. I have enjoyed not seeing them retreat in the second half like the Italian Army (http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100818071659AAvIDfd).
And, FTR, I wasn't proclaiming victory in all remaining games, just highlighting how, individually, they're all very winnable.
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Per Berman: (https://twitter.com/#!/MarkBermanFox26/status/136195567498969088)
Texans coach Gary Kubiak says Matt Schaub has a significant foot injury. He'll be further evaluated but will miss some time.
I guess Leinart can hand off as well as Schaub.
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Per Berman: (https://twitter.com/#!/MarkBermanFox26/status/136195567498969088)
I guess Leinart can hand off as well as Schaub.
The threat of play action matters. Bollucks.
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Per Berman: (https://twitter.com/#!/MarkBermanFox26/status/136195567498969088)
I guess Leinart can hand off as well as Schaub.
fuck me!
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typical
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If Matt Leinart has to throw a pass, this team is fucked...with a capital "FUCK"
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If Matt Leinart has to throw a pass, this team is fucked...with a capital "FUCK"
At least they got rid of Orlovsky.
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Oh holy fuck... IT'S MUCH WORSE. (https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/136215128893947905)
Filed to ESPN: Texans quarterback Matt Schaub is out for the season with a lis franc injury. Matt Leinart from here on in.
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Oh holy fuck... IT'S MUCH WORSE. (https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/136215128893947905)
"Twitter is over capacity."
Schaub broke Twitter
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Oh holy fuck... IT'S MUCH WORSE. (https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/136215128893947905)
Those things take a long time to heal.
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Hold up on printing those playoff tickets. I don't think they can beat Jax, Cin, Atl or Tn with Leinart. You're now looking at best case 9-7. That won't make the playoffs.
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I'm going to be the one person in the world who will wait for Leinart to prove he is a significant downgrade. I think this offense with AJ back is still solid, even with Leinart instead of Schaub.
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I'm going to be the one person in the world who will wait for Leinart to prove he is a significant downgrade. I think this offense with AJ back is still solid, even with Leinart instead of Schaub.
I'm with roadrunner. Also, I am on morphine.
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I'm going to be the one person in the world who will wait for Leinart to prove he is a significant downgrade. I think this offense with AJ back is still solid, even with Leinart instead of Schaub.
I hope like hell I'm wrong, but I can't for the life of me see why anyone thinks Leinart is a capable NFL QB. If it were Sage Rosenfels, no problem. But Leinart is just plain awful.
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If it were Sage Rosenfels, no problem.
Rosencopter?
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When during the game did Kubiak miss his own dick and step on Schaub's foot?
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I hope like hell I'm wrong, but I can't for the life of me see why anyone thinks Leinart is a capable NFL QB. If it were Sage Rosenfels, no problem. But Leinart is just plain awful.
Here's my optimistic thought process:
Schaub isn't making throws every week that amaze me. He's making throws that most NFL QBs can make. I'm assuming Leinart can make 90% of the throws Schaub makes. Mobility is a wash so in short, Schaub can't do anything that Leinart can't do.
The biggest challenge will be if Leinart can run the offense as effectively as Schaub can. He's been here for almost two years now working under Schaub. Kubiak loves him. He also has two weeks to play with the first team and get ready. I don't think it's ridiculous to think that he can step in and do this.
What scares me is that he is going to have to prove early on that he can play capably in order for the run to be as strong as it has been.
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Rosencopter?
Was actually a pretty capable QB. He'll forever be remembered for his over being a little over zealous on that one play, but he was a solid backup QB in the NFL.
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When during the game did Kubiak miss his own dick and step on Schaub's foot?
I may be totally misremebering, but didn't he hurt it on a QB sneak?
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I'm assuming Leinart can make 90% of the throws Schaub makes. Mobility is a wash so in short, Schaub can't do anything that Leinart can't do.
See, here's the disconnect.
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I may be totally misremebering, but didn't he hurt it on a QB sneak?
Yes on the goal line right before half. Myers jumped offsides. Foster almost got tackled for a safety and then Bam. Fuck.
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Here's my optimistic thought process:
Schaub isn't making throws every week that amaze me. He's making throws that most NFL QBs can make. I'm assuming Leinart can make 90% of the throws Schaub makes. Mobility is a wash so in short, Schaub can't do anything that Leinart can't do.
The biggest challenge will be if Leinart can run the offense as effectively as Schaub can. He's been here for almost two years now working under Schaub. Kubiak loves him. He also has two weeks to play with the first team and get ready. I don't think it's ridiculous to think that he can step in and do this.
What scares me is that he is going to have to prove early on that he can play capably in order for the run to be as strong as it has been.
I have to trust Kubes on this one. I think he is a horrible head coach. I think he is a excellent QB coach. We shall see.
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I would go further and say he is a terriffic OC and a fucking awful head coach.
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Was actually a pretty capable QB. He'll forever be remembered for his over being a little over zealous on that one play, but he was a solid backup QB in the NFL.
Was just using Rosencopter as an SnS term of art (as I am 99.99% sure I read it here). No other intent behind its usage...
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I fell better now (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305486_1629095585421_1777556991_839730_660587908_n.jpg).
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How much do the Raiders want for that Carson Palmer guy?
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I fell better now (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305486_1629095585421_1777556991_839730_660587908_n.jpg).
I like this one (http://oi42.tinypic.com/2qxp8o5.jpg) better.
Seriously, if he plays quarterback half as good as he closes out skanks, the Texans will be fine.
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Seriously, if he plays quarterback half as good as he closes out skanks, the Texans will be fine.
The tight ends will be very important for these next few games; Matt clearly likes to go for quick, easy completions.
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The tight ends will be very important for these next few games; Matt clearly likes to go for quick, easy completions.
Hopefully, his protection holds up or he could be facing multiple inceptions.
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Hopefully, his protection holds up or he could be facing multiple inceptions.
It depends how quickly he can move out of the pocket.
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It depends how quickly he can move out of the pocket.
If he doesn't get out of there quick enough, the morning after could be spent at the doctor's office.
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If he doesn't get out of there quick enough, the morning after could be spent at the doctor's office.
He wouldn't have to worry about this if he'd just hand it off.
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He wouldn't have to worry about this if he'd just hand it off.
I bet he hits the slot receiver over and over and over...
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Is he prone to go through gaping holes?
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T. J. Yates!
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T. J. Yates!
I have more confidence in Yates than Leinart. Good job at the end of the half of not doing anything stupid.
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Is he prone to go through gaping holes?
NTTAWTT.
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Run the fucking ball, Kubiak.
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Run the fucking ball, Kubiak.
The Jags have everyone in the box or at the LOS. I'm perfectly fine with their approach right now.
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The Jags have everyone in the box or at the LOS. I'm perfectly fine with their approach right now.
My fear is Yates trying to make a play and doing something stupid with a two score lead. It needs to be Foster and Tate or Tate and Foster.
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My fear is Yates trying to make a play and doing something stupid with a two score lead. It needs to be Foster and Tate or Tate and Foster.
I understand. I think it's easier to put an inexperienced QB in a situation where he is likely to make a mistake if you continually run the ball on first and second down and then have him have to try to make a play on 3rd and 6 or 7.
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This is fucking idiotic. A guy obviously deliberately (and successfully) tries to hurt Leinart and there's no call. Our guy gets a clean sack and there's some phantom call on the Texans. Terrible.
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This is fucking idiotic. A guy obviously deliberately (and successfully) tries to hurt Leinart and there's no call. Our guy gets a clean sack and there's some phantom call on the Texans. Terrible.
That's the worst roughing the passer call ever.
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This is fucking idiotic. A guy obviously deliberately (and successfully) tries to hurt Leinart and there's no call. Our guy gets a clean sack and there's some phantom call on the Texans. Terrible.
It's the Brady rule. You can't come in low. In theory, if you're blocked into it, you can get away with it, but you don't always get that break.
Why does Foster suddenly have the dropsies?
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It's the Brady rule. You can't come in low. In theory, if you're blocked into it, you can get away with it, but you don't always get that break.[
He didnt' go in low. He was engaged with an offensive lineman. It was a total bullshit call.
Why does Foster suddenly have the dropsies?
Not the dropsies, the get the ball knocked outsies. He's gotta hold it like it's a block of gold. Another turnover could be disastrous today.
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This is fucking idiotic. A guy obviously deliberately (and successfully) tries to hurt Leinart and there's no call. Our guy gets a clean sack and there's some phantom call on the Texans. Terrible.
God hates Houston.
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God hates Houston.
A Jags player, leading with his helmet, illegally hits a sliding quarterback. No call. Incredible.
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He didnt' go in low. He was engaged with an offensive lineman. It was a total bullshit call.
Bullshit or not, it's going to get called.
Not the dropsies, the get the ball knocked outsies. He's gotta hold it like it's a block of gold. Another turnover could be disastrous today.
That last one didn't appear to be touched hard, if at all. But you're right, turnovers will be what beats them today, and they need to make sure that they don't make any.
Yates does seem to have a solid arm.
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A Jags player, leading with his helmet, illegally hits a sliding quarterback. No call. Incredible.
Who is the magical reserve QB?
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Bullshit or not, it's going to get called.
Not by a competent official.
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Who is the magical reserve QB?
Owen Daniels is the emergency QB.
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Who is the magical reserve QB?
Owen Daniels.
I like Yates. Give him a little time to get his bearings and I don't see how he couldn't be as productive as, say, Flacco.
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I like Yates. Give him a little time to get his bearings and I don't see how he couldn't be as productive as, say, Flacco.
Today he just needs to not do something dumb. If he has to play next week, he'll have some time to get ready.
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Connor Barwin's motor never stops running. I love that.
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Today he just needs to not do something dumb. If he has to play next week, he'll have some time to get ready.
He's thrown the ball away every time things got hot. So far so good.
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He's thrown the ball away every time things got hot. So far so good.
Yep. I'll trade punts at this point. Defense is playing great...just don't turn it over.
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Connor Barwin's motor never stops running. I love that.
Nor does Watt's. And the next play I see Cushing take off will be the first. Add Reed and you have a serious nucleus of very young defensive players to build around.
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Yep. I'll trade punts at this point. Defense is playing great...just don't turn it over.
So, the dick stepping is working?
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So, the dick stepping is working?
They're not dick stepping, and as long as they don't, they'll be ok.
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Nor does Watt's. And the next play I see Cushing take off will be the first. Add Reed and you have a serious nucleus of very young defensive players to build around.
Never thought I'd say this, but there's no place on this team for Demeco Ryans.
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Never thought I'd say this, but there's no place on this team for Demeco Ryans.
Until somebody else gets hurt.
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Never thought I'd say this, but there's no place on this team for Demeco Ryans.
Amazing, isn't it? He's the defense's least productive starter.
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Gabbert looks like he just wants to cry.
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Well, it sure took them a long time to find out where Jackson was.
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That was some quality dick stepping by Del Rio and Skynrdville there on fourth down.
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It has gotten to the point where I just want the team to survive each week. It is amazing how the defense has done a complete 180 since last year.
Also, Manning played right? If he did it wasn't much. Seemed like Nolan got most of the snaps.
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That was some quality dick stepping by Del Rio and Skynrdville there on fourth down.
Yes it was. I'll take it. I'll also give Kubes some credit today. He resisted the urge to step on his. He kept running the ball, even when it was clear it wasn't going to move the ball, and trusted his defense. He didn't do anything stupid. Now he's got a whole week to try to come up with a game plan for Yates.
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Leinart...broken collarbone. Out for the season.
So do they go with Yates? Who else is available?
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Leinart...broken collarbone. Out for the season.
So do they go with Yates? Who else is available?
Shit. Was that from the tackle mentioned up the thread?
Obvious "available" QBs are Favruh and Young.
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Obvious "available" QBs are Favruh and Young.
Young? Steve Young?
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Leinart...broken collarbone. Out for the season.
So do they go with Yates? Who else is available?
Kellen Clemens with Yates backing up is my guess. And then sign another backup of course.
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Garcia. Yikes.
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I hate myself for the QB thoughts I'm having.
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Kellen Clemens with Yates backing up is my guess. And then sign another backup of course.
Yates is the starter, Clemens will back him up. I'm sure the Texans will sign some spare, but based on what they brought in last week, there isn't much available.
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Yates is the starter, Clemens will back him up. I'm sure the Texans will sign some spare, but based on what they brought in last week, there isn't much available.
Heard on the radio this morning that Miami may be releasing Sage Rosenfels. He beats any other options out there...
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Heard on the radio this morning that Miami may be releasing Sage Rosenfels. He beats any other options out there...
This falls under "too good to be true".... I'm holding my breath [inhale]........
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This falls under "too good to be true".... I'm holding my breath [inhale]........
YEAH! WE'RE GETTING AN OLDER ROSENCOPTER!
Also, fuck those dirty-hitting Jaguars now more than ever. I love those "don't move us to LA!" protest signs that probably outnumber the actual people at their stadium.
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YEAH! WE'RE GETTING AN OLDER ROSENCOPTER!
Also, fuck those dirty-hitting Jaguars now more than ever. I love those "don't move us to LA!" protest signs that probably outnumber the actual people at their stadium.
I realize it's not a stellar option. But Rosenfels is a better option than TJ Yates. Otherwise, brace yourself for watching the opposing defense do exactly what Jacksonville did, crowd the box, daring Yates to throw the ball.
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I realize it's not a stellar option. But Rosenfels is a better option than TJ Yates. Otherwise, brace yourself for watching the opposing defense do exactly what Jacksonville did, crowd the box, daring Yates to throw the ball.
Supposedly Jacksonville didn't crowd the box, Texans line just lost one on one matchups they usually win in the run game.
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YEAH! WE'RE GETTING AN OLDER ROSENCOPTER!
Also, fuck those dirty-hitting Jaguars now more than ever. I love those "don't move us to LA!" protest signs that probably outnumber the actual people at their stadium.
The Texans need someone that can hand the ball off and run play action and dump the ball off to TEs and RBs with the occasional down the field pass mixed in. Sage, at one point or another, could do that. It's unclear if TJ Yates has the ability to do so at an NFL level. Sage Rosenfels returning to the Texans wouldn't exactly be a red letter day, but it would, unfortunately, improve the team's currently meager chance of continued success.
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Supposedly Jacksonville didn't crowd the box, Texans line just lost one on one matchups they usually win in the run game.
They did crowd the box, but still, Jacksonville is the best defense the Texans have faced all year. It's no surprise that they didn't run at will, let alone the fact that they knew it was coming.
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It's basically a one-game season to make the playoffs (assuming a win over Indy, which could happen with Garrett Gilbert at QB.) Beat TEN and you clinch the division.,
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Ladies and gentlemen... Jake Delhomme!
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Ladies and gentlemen... Jake Delhomme!
Source?
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Source?
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/16284033
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Ladies and gentlemen... Jake Delhomme!
How is that better than what they have?
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How is that better than what they have?
There's two of them. Previously, there was only one, and at the rate we're losing 'em...
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There's two of them. Previously, there was only one, and at the rate we're losing 'em...
Go with the option. Texans aren't losing running backs.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/16284033
Thanks.
Glad it wasn't you know who.
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I was listening to 1250 in San Antonio tonight (God help me) and Mark Vandermeer was on. The radio guys kept asking him if they should get Brett Favre. He basically said "well, we're all just guessing if he even still has it" and we they kept pressing him, he said "maybe we could exhume the corpse of Johnny Unitas." I thought that was pretty hilarious.
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He'd immediately demand a trade to acquire Raymond Berry, though.
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I was listening to 1250 in San Antonio tonight (God help me) and Mark Vandermeer was on. The radio guys kept asking him if they should get Brett Favre. He basically said "well, we're all just guessing if he even still has it" and we they kept pressing him, he said "maybe we could exhume the corpse of Johnny Unitas." I thought that was pretty hilarious.
Y. A. Tittle is still alive...
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Would the Texans cut Delhomme for McNabb? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Vikings-cut-Donovan-McNabb-is-the-Windy-City-in?urn=nfl-wp12951)
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Would the Texans cut Delhomme for McNabb? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Vikings-cut-Donovan-McNabb-is-the-Windy-City-in?urn=nfl-wp12951)
He may still have something left in the tank, but his shortcomings in Washington could indicate that Kubes likely isn't interested. Plus, there are at least 26 teams that would have waiver rights over the Texans, so there is a good chance he would be snatched up by another team before the Texans even had chance, if they so chose.
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He may still have something left in the tank, but his shortcomings in Washington could indicate that Kubes likely isn't interested. Plus, there are at least 26 teams that would have waiver rights over the Texans, so there is a good chance he would be snatched up by another team before the Texans even had chance, if they so chose.
See Titans, Memphis Nashville Tennessee.
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See Titans, Memphis Nashville Tennessee.
Sage now released (no, really this time) per Caplan twitter.
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Sage now released (no, really this time) per Caplan twitter.
...and picked up by Minnesota.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgjWno1PG9Y&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgjWno1PG9Y&feature=player_embedded)
Hitler is not pleased with the Texans QB situation.
a little something for HudsonHawk at the 1:40 mark...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgjWno1PG9Y&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgjWno1PG9Y&feature=player_embedded)
Hitler is not pleased with the Texans QB situation.
a little something for HudsonHawk at the 1:40 mark...
Fucking brilliant! I love those things.
Wondering when the one about Palace beating Moan U will turn up (although I think Adolf's rant will pale in comparison with Fergie's actual rant).
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Has Hitler reacted to the Astros' move to the AL?
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Has Hitler reacted to the Astros' move to the AL?
He IS the commissioner...
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Just an FYI...in the stadium now...five bars and 3G with AT&T.
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Just an FYI...in the stadium now...five bars and 3G with AT&T.
Stay loose. They may need you to QB before the game is over.
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Just an FYI...in the stadium now...five bars and 3G with AT&T.
So do I but I'm at home. Which I guess is no less remarkable than your having full strength inside the stadium.
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Yates can put some zip on the ball, which I new for the texans
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How is that not an incomplete pass?
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What a fucking ridiculous call. Are these guys blind?
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Fucking cocksuckers.
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What the fucking hell? It was a clearly an incomplete pass.
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Fuck yeah!
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Well, 3 is better than nothing, I guess, but that false start really sucked.
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Andre Johnson is a strong man.
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Yates looks good
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Nice. Screen to Foster, pass to Johnson.
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Yates seems to have a stronger arm, more athleticism, and better accuracy (besides a couple of early, understandable overthrows) than Wally Pipp (I mean Schaub)
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Cushing, sigh
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This team is cursed
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Is this Yates' first NFL start? Somebody should let the announcers know that.
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Cushing, sigh
I haven't heard anything about how serious it is, but I've been in and out of the room. Have they said anything?
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I haven't heard anything about how serious it is, but I've been in and out of the room. Have they said anything?
Heard he walked back out without a limp, pads on
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I haven't heard anything about how serious it is, but I've been in and out of the room. Have they said anything?
Kubes says he'll be back.
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Cush in the game
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Kareem Jackson has had a very good game for him, but he still fucks up a simple hit. And it wasn't even his fault.
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Defensive hold. That's infuriating.
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The Texans are letting these guys stay in the game, and that has me worried.
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What the hell is going on in Miami?
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What the hell is going on in Miami?
I don't know, but I'm sure glad I dropped the OAK defense.
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Fuck. Another Andre hammy.
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I'm reluctant to ask, but what else can happen to this team?
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I'm reluctant to ask, but what else can happen to this team?
I though Foster looked a little tentative getting up from that last run.
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I'm reluctant to ask, but what else can happen to this team?
It doesn't take a particularly fecund imagination to come up with a range of possibilities.
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Opposite leg for AJ
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Andre injured his left leg just now. His hamstring injury was his right leg.
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Wow. Favor returned.
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Kubes makes a good challenge decision? Wtf?
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Come on defense.
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I love this team this year
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This is completely fucking ridiculous.
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WHAT THE FUCK, FOX?
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Anybody want to tell me how the fucking game ended? Fox decided that the commercials and Cowboy pre-game were more important than the last 10 seconds of the game.
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Anybody want to tell me how the fucking game ended? Fox decided that the commercials and Cowboy pre-game were more important than the last 10 seconds of the game.
Jones had a real chance to make a catch in the end zone but it slipped through his hands. 9-3.
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Anybody want to tell me how the fucking game ended? Fox decided that the commercials and Cowboy pre-game were more important than the last 10 seconds of the game.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=311204034
We won. FOX is a joke.
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What a fucking lousy network. Have commercials and these guys yap for few minutes. Can't stay for eight second. Fuck those assholes.
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What happened? Why are the Cowboys on TV and not Heidi? Unfucking believable.
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Jones had a real chance to make a catch in the end zone but it slipped through his hands. 9-3.
Jones dropped a lot of balls today, and I gather he's been doing that all year.
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What happened? Why are the Cowboys on TV and not Heidi? Unfucking believable.
Heidi does Dallas.
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What happened? Why are the Cowboys on TV and not Heidi? Unfucking believable.
Shirley Temple held out for more money.
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Jones dropped a lot of balls today, and I gather he's been doing that all year.
Atlanta took two shots to the end zone. The first was to the right corner and was overthrown. The second, a play run with one second on the clock, was perfectly thrown. Jones was sort of backpedalling, falling backwards. The ball slipped past his right thigh. He really should have caught it. But he didn't.
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I had to explain Heidi to a room full of kids...but I did get to see the end of the game.
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Who the hell is Heidi?
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Who the hell is Heidi?
My miniature schnauzer (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lKdPH_D6Q30/Tgvhmcvlo6I/AAAAAAAAAng/msyL1P7QxM8/s1600/heidi6.jpg), for one.
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Who the hell is Heidi?
The girl who interrupts NFL games (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fA3xd20ANs&feature=related).
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What happened? Why are the Cowboys on TV and not Heidi? Unfucking believable.
+1 .
In San Antonio they cut away to show a personal injury lawyer commercial starring some Cowboy or other. It's like they're deliberately trying to piss us off...
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So do I but I'm at home. Which I guess is no less remarkable than your having full strength inside the stadium.
Why the hell weren't at the game? I made my award-winning (no kidding, I've won contests) beef stew.
With the execption of the very first game in 2002, maybe...this was the loudest I've ever heard that stadium.
You get your playoff ticket invoice yet?
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Fucking Cowboys. Bailey doinks the upright and it bounces through.
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Every week, another player.
If Wade Phillips gets hurt, we are screwed.
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Every week, another player.
If Wade Phillips gets hurt, we are screwed.
Hartmann & Johnson. Anyone else.
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Hartmann & Johnson. Anyone else.
Cushing came back
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Hartmann & Johnson. Anyone else.
Jason Allen. He got dinged late and I don't think he returned.
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The Cowboy coach just iced his own kicker.
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The Cowboy coach just iced his own kicker.
And you guys bitch about Kubiak? He cost his team the game. And I'm putting money on the playoffs being missed now. I hate Garrett.
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And you guys bitch about Kubiak? He cost his team the game.
Karma for Heidi-Bowlderizing the Texans earlier.
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Karma for Heidi-Bowlderizing the Texans earlier.
The Texans game was shown in its completion here in Houston.
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Baylor wins. (fb, mbb, wbb)
Texans win.
'Boys lose.
My kind of sports weekend.
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The Texans game was shown in its completion here in Houston.
There are Texans fans elsewhere, you know. FOX has already heard from at least one of them!
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The clock management at the end was terrible too - why spike there?
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There are Texans fans elsewhere, you know. FOX has already heard from at least one of them!
And there are more everyday, all over Texas, in particular.
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There are Texans fans elsewhere, you know. FOX has already heard from at least one of them!
I know you all hate the Cowboys, but you all know who is the bigger draw on Fox. I bet they would have done the same thing for the Packers.
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I know you all hate the Cowboys, but you all know who is the bigger draw on Fox. I bet they would have done the same thing for the Packers.
Nothing to do with it being the Cowboys. Fox has a policy to show the start of all NFL games in their home market
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Nothing to do with it being the Cowboys. Fox has a policy to show the start of all NFL games in their home market
It's an NFL rule.
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Nothing to do with it being the Cowboys. Fox has a policy to show the start of all NFL games in their home market
Then why is every whining about it. They should be overjoyed the 'boys lost.
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It's an NFL rule.
You're correct. I was having 3 different conversations, and mistyped.
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Then why is every whining about it. They should be overjoyed the 'boys lost.
Some of us don't give two shits about the Cowboys.
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Then why is every whining about it. They should be overjoyed the 'boys lost.
They're whining about it because they'd rather see the last 20 seconds of the Texans game than commercials.
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Imagine how many people would care about the cowboys if they had won more the one playoff game sine 1996
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Nothing to do with it being the Cowboys. Fox has a policy to show the start of all NFL games in their home market
I realize it's a rule, but I'm trying to figure out why Austin is categorized as the Cowboys' home market. We're free agents, damn it.
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I realize it's a rule, but I'm trying to figure out why Austin is categorized as the Cowboys' home market. We're free agents, damn it.
You'd like to think so, but alas, Austin is Dallas TV market territory. Therefore, any network, not just FOX, is contractually required to show Cowboys games in their entirety, regardless of what it interupts or regardless of whether it's a blowout or not.
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You'd like to think so, but alas, Austin is Dallas TV market territory. Therefore, any network, not just FOX, is contractually required to show Cowboys games in their entirety, regardless of what it interupts or regardless of whether it's a blowout or not.
I could stomach it if it was actually opening kickoff. But instead, at least in San Antonio, they interrupted the end of a tight game for shitty local commercials/pregame yapping. Because there aren't enough opportunities for advertising during an NFL broadcast. Again, fuck FOX. I wonder what would happen they decided to pre-empt the end of a Giants game to show the Jets.
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Did Bob Costas just promise the Texans a spot on SNF next year? Is that some kind of apology?
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Did Bob Costas just promise the Texans a spot on SNF next year? Is that some kind of apology?
The texans have been a mediocre 8-8, 9-7, 6-10. Performance doesn't seem the sole determinant for every team to have played a SNF game other than Houston. an SNF game seems more marquee than mnf these days. It would be fun for the fans.
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an SNF game seems more marquee than mnf these days. It would be fun for the fans.
Seems? The Sunday night game *is* the marquee game. ABC wanted it that way and swapped their Sunday and Monday broadcasts.
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I could stomach it if it was actually opening kickoff. But instead, at least in San Antonio, they interrupted the end of a tight game for shitty local commercials/pregame yapping. Because there aren't enough opportunities for advertising during an NFL broadcast. Again, fuck FOX. I wonder what would happen they decided to pre-empt the end of a Giants game to show the Jets.
I know it sucks, but those are the rules. You're not a free agent. If you don't have a local team, one gets picked for you. Whether you like it or not.
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Austin and San Antonio are not designated as secondary markets to Dallas or Houston. I believe it was the local stations in Austin and San Antonio making the move to the more "popular" team.
"During the afternoon games, CBS and Fox may switch a market's game to a more competitive one mid-game, particularly when a game becomes one-sided. For this to occur, one team must be ahead by at least 18 points in the second half.
Due to the "Heidi Game", a primary media market must show its local team's game in its entirety and secondary markets usually follow suit for away games. Also, secondary markets (for home games) or any others where one team's popularity stands out may request a constant feed of that game, and in that case will not be switched.
If the local team is scheduled for the late game of a doubleheader, it has importance over any early game. If 4:15 p.m. arrives, and the early game is ongoing, the primary affiliate (all games) and secondary affiliates (road games) are required to cut off the early game and switch to the start of the local team's game. Additional affiliates, including secondary affiliates for home games, may also request to cut off an early game for a nearby team's late start. This is common in Texas where many affiliates which are not considered secondary markets by the NFL still switch out of early games in order to get to the start of a 4:15 Dallas Cowboys game.
When a local team plays the early game of a doubleheader, that game holds importance over any late game. If the local team's early game runs beyond 4:15 p.m., the primary and secondary markets stay on until completion, and the late game is joined in-progress."
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Some of us don't give two shits about the Cowboys.
And some of us don't give two shits about the Texans. But I wasn't whining that I had to go somewhere to watch them play when they played at the same time as the Texans but FOX wouldn't air the game in Houston.
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I'm not whining because they have to show the Cowboys. I expect that much in Austin. I'm whining because they had to show fucking commercials and pregame chat instead of eight seconds of a cliffhanger. Whatever programming rules which created the scenario yesterday are brain dead.
btw, I've ragged on Kubiak quite a bit, but he deserves a lot of credit this year. He's cursed on challenges though. Even when the call was obviously screwed, it still won't get overturned if he is throwing the red flag. What is the point of replay if they can't fix something as stupid as that call yesterday? Spineless pricks running the show.
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And some of us don't give two shits about the Texans. But I wasn't whining that I had to go somewhere to watch them play when they played at the same time as the Texans but FOX wouldn't air the game in Houston.
...which would be a relevant comparison if we were whining from Dallas. Again, there's got to be a better way. What would happen if FOX cut away from a tight Giants game to show Jets pregame yapping?
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...which would be a relevant comparison if we were whining from Dallas. Again, there's got to be a better way. What would happen if FOX cut away from a tight Giants game to show Jets pregame yapping?
I think they make sure the Jets and Giants aren't on the same network on the same day.
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And some of us don't give two shits about the Texans. But I wasn't whining that I had to go somewhere to watch them play when they played at the same time as the Texans but FOX wouldn't air the game in Houston.
And if the people complaining were living in Dallas they'd have just as little an argument as you do.
You, like it or not, live in the Houston home market. The people complaining don't live in Houston or Dallas.
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I think they make sure the Jets and Giants aren't on the same network on the same day.
So they never schedule a Jets home game vs. an NFC team while the Giants are on the road? Or do they have some kind of special dispensation from the CBS/FOX normal carrier rules? Not bitching, just curious because it seems like that scenario would come up at least once a year. Maybe that's why the Giants are on SNF/MNF so much?
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In other feats of dumbfuckery, my car radio was still set to whatever AM station that carries the Texans when I got in it this morning. Max from Galveston was positing a plan whereby TJ gets some rest prior to the playoffs.
I nearly wrecked because my whole left side immediately forgot how to function.
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So they never schedule a Jets home game vs. an NFC team while the Giants are on the road? Or do they have some kind of special dispensation from the CBS/FOX normal carrier rules? Not bitching, just curious because it seems like that scenario would come up at least once a year. Maybe that's why the Giants are on SNF/MNF so much?
I think they don't schedule a one at home vs an out of conference opponent while the other is on the road, at the same time or back to back, on the same day.
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Some of us don't give two shits about the Cowboys.
+1
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And if the people complaining were living in Dallas they'd have just as little an argument as you do.
You, like it or not, live in the Houston home market. The people complaining don't live in Houston or Dallas.
Add to that the following (in my case):
1. Busy all morning and mid-afternoon out with the family when I get a text from a family member in Houston with the "Texans... woohoo!'... I smile, good for them and all Texan fans, happy for them.
2. Get home, turn to the local fox station and there is 7 minutes left in the game and the crowd is absolutely going nuts helping the defense intensity.... nice, this is fun to watch for a non-vested person like myself.
3. The intensity is great and this is awesome entertainment... very nice NFL, I like this and I'm in.... woohoo!
4. Seconds left in the game, the Falcons are marching down the field, the Houston defense is bending but has not broken.... I'm at the edge of my seat.... I love the drama... well done NFL!!!
5. Falcons receiver is flagged for going out of bounds... now the clock is down to 12 seconds or so.... two more downs left for the Falcons to try to tie this game... the crowd is intense, the defense is playing hard.... and then.....
cut to a commercial....
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! WTF NFL? Why? Next thing I know, the commercial ends and I am now watching Dick Stockton and some analyst doing a pre-game of a second game.... why? I'm not in Dallas... whaa....
(Note: I would have had the same reaction of disgust had I been watching the Packers/Vikings playing a close game with seconds left or any other matchup too.... that was just the NFL plain shooting themselves in the foot as far as I'm concerned because this is no way to treat people interested in watching a good game of theirs only to have it pulled and then make them watch a commercial and some pre-game bs. Was that absolutely necessary for Cowboy fans too? I'm sure some of them said to themselves "Sure would have like to watch what happened at the end of *THAT* game instead of watching in horror at Dick Stockton's combover).
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In other feats of dumbfuckery, my car radio was still set to whatever AM station that carries the Texans when I got in it this morning. Max from Galveston was positing a plan whereby TJ gets some rest prior to the playoffs.
I nearly wrecked because my whole left side immediately forgot how to function.
I love it. What's the number one thing a rookie QB who's started exactly 1 NFL game needs to get ready for the playoffs? REST, and lots of it! He definitely doesn't need to seize as much in-game experience as possible.
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Who the hell did the Texans piss off? Hartlein out with torn ACL.
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Who the hell did the Texans piss off? Hartlein out with torn ACL.
Bud Selig. He has a personal vendetta against all things Houston...
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Who the hell did the Texans piss off? Hartlein out with torn ACL.
Did you mean Hartmann, or do we have another player with shredded knees?
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Did you mean Hartmann, or do we have another player with shredded knees?
I mean the punter. May have confused the name.
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Who the hell did the Texans piss off? Hartlein out with torn ACL.
Lopez the talking monkey and the other babbling crew were talking yesterday postgame about the turf at Reliant, and the high school games played there Saturday. Cushing went down without being touched. Johnson went down without being touched. Hartmann went down without being touched...visiting players and coaches complain constantly about the turf...
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Lopez the talking monkey and the other babbling crew were talking yesterday postgame about the turf at Reliant, and the high school games played there Saturday. Cushing went down without being touched. Johnson went down without being touched. Hartmann went down without being touched...visiting players and coaches complain constantly about the turf...
Sounds like Missouri.
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It was all FOX's call.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/05/fox-defends-decision-to-turn-off-texans-in-austin-san-antonio/
That decision was made by FOX at the network level, and FOX says it was made for a simple reason: More people watch the Cowboys than the Texans in those two markets.
“Based on general interest in the Texans and Cowboys in both markets we stand by this decision,” FOX Sports spokesman Lou D’Ermilio told PFT via e-mail. “The Texans rating in Austin was a 12.1, while the Cowboy rating was a 21.7. In San Antonio, the Texans posted a 14.8, while the Cowboys did a 27.9.”
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It was all FOX's call.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/05/fox-defends-decision-to-turn-off-texans-in-austin-san-antonio/
They can dissemble all they want, but it's not like they were cutting over to the start of the Cowboy game: they were cutting over to Dick Stockton blathering about nothing. This is a Selig-esque level of condescension and contempt for your customers.
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They can dissemble all they want, but it's not like they were cutting over to the start of the Cowboy game: they were cutting over to Dick Stockton blathering about nothing. This is a Selig-esque level of condescension and contempt for your customers.
No shit. They must think we are all idiots and don't understand the difference between kickoff and five minutes before kickoff.
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Lopez the talking monkey and the other babbling crew were talking yesterday postgame about the turf at Reliant, and the high school games played there Saturday. Cushing went down without being touched. Johnson went down without being touched. Hartmann went down without being touched...visiting players and coaches complain constantly about the turf...
It's the tray system they use, where they take the field apart and truck it out in pieces to re-grow outdoors. I have no idea if any other roofed stadiums, retractable or not, use the same stuff. There are seams and loose/dead spots everywhere, they're visible on TV but are even worse if you've ever walked around on it. With the improvements in artificial turf - "field turf" or whatever they're calling it now - it seems highly questionable that they don't switch something up.
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It's the tray system they use, where they take the field apart and truck it out in pieces to re-grow outdoors. I have no idea if any other roofed stadiums, retractable or not, use the same stuff. There are seams and loose/dead spots everywhere, they're visible on TV but are even worse if you've ever walked around on it. With the improvements in artificial turf - "field turf" or whatever they're calling it now - it seems highly questionable that they don't switch something up.
This whole "natural grass" thing is a failed experiment at best, and an affront to God at worst. Bring in the real (and by "real" I mean "artificial") stuff.
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No shit. They must think we are all idiots and don't understand the difference between kickoff and five minutes before kickoff.
First time in a very long time I enjoyed reading the comments from readers who took FOX and the NFL to task. "I don’t care who you are, or who you root for, every football fan prefers seeing the dramatic end of a tight game to the pre-kickoff pageantry and commentary you’d get otherwise." (ah-greed!) "As a cowboys fan in Austin I was disgusted. There was one more play left in a close game!" (this from a Cowboy fan who gets it!)
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It's the tray system they use, where they take the field apart and truck it out in pieces to re-grow outdoors. I have no idea if any other roofed stadiums, retractable or not, use the same stuff. There are seams and loose/dead spots everywhere, they're visible on TV but are even worse if you've ever walked around on it. With the improvements in artificial turf - "field turf" or whatever they're calling it now - it seems highly questionable that they don't switch something up.
According to the complaints, it's not the dead spots, it's the fact that each tray is different. Some are hard, some are soft, some are spongy, some are springy...you can literally be standing with one foot on one that feels like standing on a sponge, and the other foot standing on what feels like concrete. If it were all the same, they could deal with it.
The stadium in Phoenix is the only other retractable roof stadium in the NFL, and it's real grass, but the whole field moves together. They just roll the playing surface outside on giant rails, then roll it back in. As far as I know, Reliant is the only one to use the individual pallets.
I'm not sure what different switching to field turf would do, if they continue with the individual parquet construction. It's not the surface, it's the design.
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According to the complaints, it's not the dead spots, it's the fact that each tray is different. Some are hard, some are soft, some are spongy, some are springy...you can literally be standing with one foot on one that feels like standing on a sponge, and the other foot standing on what feels like concrete. If it were all the same, they could deal with it.
The stadium in Phoenix is the only other retractable roof stadium in the NFL, and it's real grass, but the whole field moves together. They just roll the playing surface outside on giant rails, then roll it back in. As far as I know, Reliant is the only one to use the individual pallets.
I'm not sure what different switching to field turf would do, if they continue with the individual parquet construction. It's not the surface, it's the design.
An additional part of the issue is that Reliant was built with the Rodeo in mind, rather than being a football-only venue. It's a simple enough fix, depending on how many more knees they're willing to shred, but the Rodeo has to agree to that expenditure from what I've been told.
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An additional part of the issue is that Reliant was built with the Rodeo in mind, rather than being a football-only venue. It's a simple enough fix, depending on how many more knees they're willing to shred, but the Rodeo has to agree to that expenditure from what I've been told.
How much does it cost? It can't be a lot more than what it's costing to put guys on IR and sign new guys to minimum contracts ($300-500k each).
Also, the HLSR just has dirt everywhere. Why would they agree to footing some of the cost for turf?
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How much does it cost? It can't be a lot more than what it's costing to put guys on IR and sign new guys to minimum contracts ($300-500k each).
Also, the HLSR just has dirt everywhere. Why would they agree to footing some of the cost for turf?
IIRC, they both own the lease to the stadium and both tenants have to agree to major changes. For instance (and I'm guessing here) to go to a full field rail system like Arizona has would mean "permanent" rails being installed on the floor of the stadium, which would limit use for the rodeo. If those rails can be removed and re positioned, what is involved with that? Do they have to engineer a rodeo floor over trenches when the rails are removed?
Field Turf would be a viable option, but I'm sure there's something from an infrastructure that would have to be discussed.
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How much does it cost? It can't be a lot more than what it's costing to put guys on IR and sign new guys to minimum contracts ($300-500k each).
Also, the HLSR just has dirt everywhere. Why would they agree to footing some of the cost for turf?
The Texans and HLSR are "married" when it comes to repairs/upkeep/upgrade on Reliant, I believe. I'm not sure if the Texans could pay for the whole thing if they wanted to without HLSR's agreement. Perhaps, I just don't know enough about how the agreement works. But I know the Texans can't just do whatever they want.
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Field Turf would be a viable option, but I'm sure there's something from an infrastructure that would have to be discussed.
They use the pallets so they can rotate out pieces to get even growth, so I'm assuming they can use one big piece, or at least few smaller pieces, of field turf. But I'm not sure how that would work simply from a logistical standpoint. Would they be able to roll up the field in one piece? Where would they put it? What equipment would be needed? Like you, I'm guessing it's not as straightforward as it sounds, though I'm sure it's technically doable.
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No shit. They must think we are all idiots and don't understand the difference between kickoff and five minutes before kickoff.
+1
My brother in Dallas was watching the Texans game in his Cowboy gear and was super pissed about missing the end of the game. Epic Fail.
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My brother in Dallas was watching the Texans game in his Cowboy gear and was super pissed about missing the end of the game. Epic Fail.
The big assumption on the part of Fox/NFL being that random fans wouldn't like to see another team lose.
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Some quality dick-stepping out there today.
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Exquisite dick-stepping upon.
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They appear particularly inept today.
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Nothing going right at all today.
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Nothing going right at all today.
Lots going right. They're moving the ball, but keep stepping on their dicks when it come time to score.
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There ya go! That's what I like to see. Get right back in this fucker.
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I really like Joseph, but he needs to work on how tall he is.
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I really like Joseph, but he needs to work on how tall he is.
Glover Quin just stood there and watched Green take that ball away. Someone needs to tell #29 that he's allowed to help.
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Geez guys...get of your dicks!!
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3rd and 1 at the 31...the next two plays you lose 22 yards. Pathetic.
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Texans...you gotta score here. You should be winning this game by three touchdowns, instead you're down two scores. Come on guys!
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Kubiak challenge flag! Drink!
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That was not a fucking catch. And last week some guy catches the ball, runs two strides and then loses the ball, and the refs called it incomplete. Go figure.
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Why the fuck is Derrick Mason on the field? Why the fuck are they throwing to him?
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Fuck. One more first down for the Bengals, and this one is over.
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Fuck. The game pretty much ends on a fucking illegal contact penalty, 40 yards from the play.
FUCK!!!!
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You gotta be fucking shitting me. This is the worst tackling game they Texans have had in probably 8 years.
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Well well... the dick stepping tables have turned. Let's win this fucker.
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Sure would be nice to have that missed 47-yarder about now.
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Wow!
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WOW!!!
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Awesome + Win!
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Glad we got to watch those last 8 seconds!
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Fuckin A...that was big time by Yates!! Ice water, I tells ya...
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Fuckin A...that was big time by Yates!! Ice water, I tells ya...
Trial by fire, I like it.
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Did Sean Payton go to idiot school?
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Trial by fire, I like it.
Excellent job by Yates...big time catches by Daniels and Walter.
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Glad we got to watch those last 8 seconds!
Nice!
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Texans in the Playoffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Unreal.
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Unreal.
The Texans shall now be playing for home field advantage throughout the playoffs.
How's that sound?
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It sounds pretty motherfucking good.
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It sounds pretty motherfucking good.
Victory cigar...double corona...Chateau Fuente or Padron?
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Victory cigar...double corona...Chateau Fuente or Padron?
I bought some champagne Thursday. I might crack it open here in a bit.
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I bought some champagne Thursday. I might crack it open here in a bit.
What kind
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What kind
Drinking a free bottle of Freixenet now. We were saving a bottle of Dom for after a home game to clinch. Probably next week.
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What kind
It's a cava, actually. It's nothing special, like a $20 bottle. I'm not sure what it is; it's in the fridge obviously. It's something I hadn't tried before, whatever it is.
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I am disappointed in both of you
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I am disappointed in both of you
Hey, it's what was in the beer fridge. We were planning on celebrating with the Dom at Reliant. Didn't realize they could clinch on the road. We all have to make sacrifices for our team. If I were smoking an El Producto, then you should be disappointed in me.
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YATESAMANIA BEGINS NOW!
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This is the exact opposite of last year. Even down 19-10 I felt confident. I love this team.
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Tiebreakers:
If it's a tie that involves the Pats it comes down to W/L PCT amongst common opponents. Both the Texans and Pats are 3-1 against common opponents, both with one common opponent remaining (HOU @IND, BOS vs. MIA).
Houston has killed Baltimore vs. common opponents already, but this only applies if there's a three-way tie. If it's the Texans and Ravens only, the Texans have lost to the Ravens already (probably the only game they should have lost), so they lose any head-to-head with them.
FWIW, if the playoffs started today, Houston would be the #1 seed as they beat Baltimore on common opponents (as above) and the Pats on conference record where they are 8-2 over BOS' 7-2. However, the Texans have 2 in-conference games left (@IND, TEN) whereas the Pats have three (@TEBDEN, MIA, BUF) so, if everyone wins out, the Texans beat Baltimore and the tie with New England is broken by strength of victory.
Run in:
HOU: CAR, @IND, TEN
BAL: @SD, CLE, @CIN
BOS: @DEN, MIA, BUF
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Tiebreakers:
If it's a tie that involves the Pats it comes down to W/L PCT amongst common opponents. Both the Texans and Pats are 3-1 against common opponents, both with one common opponent remaining (HOU @IND, BOS vs. MIA).
Houston has killed Baltimore vs. common opponents already, but this only applies if there's a three-way tie. If it's the Texans and Ravens only, the Texans have lost to the Ravens already (probably the only game they should have lost), so they lose any head-to-head with them.
FWIW, if the playoffs started today, Houston would be the #1 seed as they beat Baltimore on common opponents (as above) and the Pats on conference record where they are 8-2 over BOS' 7-2. However, the Texans have 2 in-conference games left (@IND, TEN) whereas the Pats have three (@TEBDEN, MIA, BUF) so, if everyone wins out, the Texans beat Baltimore and the tie with New England is broken by strength of victory.
Run in:
HOU: CAR, @IND, TEN
BAL: @SD, CLE, @CIN
BOS: @DEN, MIA, BUF
The Texans have a remarkably favorable schedule to close the season. Kubiak regularly make fewer idiotic mistakes in December. Should be an interesting three weeks. #statingtheobvious
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The Texans have a remarkably favorable schedule to close the season. Kubiak regularly make fewer idiotic mistakes in December. Should be an interesting three weeks. #statingtheobvious
New England and Baltimore have problematic road games next weekend while the Texans have the Panthers at home. It's impossible to count any NFL game before it's in the books* - I suspect the Colts will be more than fired up on the 22nd - so I'm not counting any chickens here. But it's important to know how tight things are to get a bye and/or home field.
* See inaugural game, Texans'.
One game at a time...
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New England and Baltimore have problematic road games next weekend while the Texans have the Panthers at home. It's impossible to count any NFL game before it's in the books* - I suspect the Colts will be more than fired up on the 22nd - so I'm not counting any chickens here. But it's important to know how tight things are to get a bye and/or home field.
* See inaugural game, Texans'.
One game at a time...
Interested to see the defensive game plan against Cam. Less blitzing to make him throw more from the pocket rather than create scrambling opportunities on disrupted plays?
Btw, it's so fucking wonderful to be talking about tiebreakers in December that don't involve requiring winning out and every other team losing every game to sneak in the backdoor to the playoffs.
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Btw, it's so fucking wonderful to be talking about tiebreakers in December that don't involve requiring winning out and every other team losing every game to sneak in the backdoor to the playoffs.
Getting the bye would be Fucking Huge™ as it means avoiding the Steelers, and I think winning out should do that. That would also mean the conference semi-final would be at Reliant*. Everything else is lagniappe.
* Someone better be welding the roof shut.
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* Someone better be welding the roof shut.
Selig will step in.
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Getting the bye would be Fucking Huge™ as it means avoiding the Steelers, and I think winning out should do that. That would also mean the conference semi-final would be at Reliant*. Everything else is lagniappe.
* Someone better be welding the roof shut.
Anything giving the Texans some time to recover (AJ) would be welcome.
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The Texans have a remarkably favorable schedule to close the season. Kubiak regularly make fewer idiotic mistakes in December. Should be an interesting three weeks. #statingtheobvious
I will say this...Kubiak has been unusually good the last three weeks. He did a really good job in the Jags game when Leinart went down, and he (or his staff) did a really nice job preparing Yates the last two weeks. Both he and Yates managed the clock well yesterday (historically a Kubiak shortcoming).
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Selig will step in.
Actually, it's completely Goodell's turn in order to complete the Houston sports team commissioner screw-job trifecta.
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Just realised that I have overlooked the Steelers pipping the Ravens for the AFC North! Also, I think I have been figuring common opponents all wrong. Here's what this handy CBS web page (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace) says about a three-way tie:
Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
So, I think that a three-way tie is decided by common teams amongst all three teams and, if a single winner is determined, then they have it. If two remain tied and the third is gone, then the two remaining tied teams go back to the top of the list: #1 Head-to-head.
In a HOU, NWE, BAL tie, only IND and PIT are common opponents. HOU is 2-0 (with @IND remaining), NWE is 1-1 and BAL is 2-1. Assuming everyone has won out to get to the tie, the Texans take this with a win over the Colts.
In a HOU, NWE, PIT tie, only IND is common opponent. HOU is 1-0 (with @IND remaining), NWE is 1-0 and PIT is 1-0. Assuming everyone has won out to get to the tie, the Texans' additional game is moot as win percentage is the decider. As the tie is not broken here, it goes to conference record which would have HOU at 10-2, NWE at 10-2 and PIT at 9-3. The Steelers disappear at this stage, the Texans and Patriots go back to #3 (#1 and #2 not being possible). Common opponents now are IND, MIA, OAK and PIT, and both teams would be 4-1. #4: Strength of victory is next, which has both teams at +122 points currently (I presume this is the test here), so we then drop to #5: Strength of schedule at which point I cry uncle!
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Just realised that I have overlooked the Steelers pipping the Ravens for the AFC North! Also, I think I have been figuring common opponents all wrong. Here's what this handy CBS web page (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace) says about a three-way tie:
So, I think that a three-way tie is decided by common teams amongst all three teams and, if a single winner is determined, then they have it. If two remain tied and the third is gone, then the two remaining tied teams go back to the top of the list: #1 Head-to-head.
In a HOU, NWE, BAL tie, only IND and PIT are common opponents. HOU is 2-0 (with @IND remaining), NWE is 1-1 and BAL is 2-1. Assuming everyone has won out to get to the tie, the Texans take this with a win over the Colts.
In a HOU, NWE, PIT tie, only IND is common opponent. HOU is 1-0 (with @IND remaining), NWE is 1-0 and PIT is 1-0. Assuming everyone has won out to get to the tie, the Texans' additional game is moot as win percentage is the decider. As the tie is not broken here, it goes to conference record which would have HOU at 10-2, NWE at 10-2 and PIT at 9-3. The Steelers disappear at this stage, the Texans and Patriots go back to #3 (#1 and #2 not being possible). Common opponents now are IND, MIA, OAK and PIT, and both teams would be 4-1. #4: Strength of victory is next, which has both teams at +122 points currently (I presume this is the test here), so we then drop to #5: Strength of schedule at which point I cry uncle!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/conferenceRank/order/false
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/conferenceRank/order/false
Thanks, but this isn't predictive to the end of the season.
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Thanks, but this isn't predictive to the end of the season.
It gave the strength of schedule as of today. Just trying to help.
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It gave the strength of schedule as of today. Just trying to help.
Ah. Missed that...thanks!
So the Texans lose to the Pats on SOV as it stands today, but win on SOS. I'm not sure the Texans are going to dominate anyone from here on out, so I'm going to root for Baltimore over the Steelers.
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ESPN on the case:
@AdamSchefter
If Texans, Ravens, Patriots all win out and finish 13-3, Ravens will be 1 seed, Pats 2, Texans 3, according to ESPN researcher Vince Masi.
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ESPN on the case:
I'm not claiming to be the authority on this over ESPN, but I've watched their experts on TV if Houston gets to 13-3, there's no way they lose tiebreaker #3 to either of the other two teams who both have losses to Pittsburgh while the Texans would be perfect. Because tiebreakers #1 and #2 are not possible in a three-way tie, and Houston beats both teams in #3, no other tiebreaker comes into play, IMHO.
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I'm not claiming to be the authority on this over ESPN, but I've watched their experts on TV if Houston gets to 13-3, there's no way they lose tiebreaker #3 to either of the other two teams who both have losses to Pittsburgh while the Texans would be perfect. Because tiebreakers #1 and #2 are not possible in a three-way tie, and Houston beats both teams in #3, no other tiebreaker comes into play, IMHO.
Are you accounting for the fact that in a 3 way tie you just pick who wins the tiebreaker, then go back to the head to head tiebreakers with the remaining two?
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Just realised that I have overlooked the Steelers pipping the Ravens for the AFC North! Also, I think I have been figuring common opponents all wrong. Here's what this handy CBS web page (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace) says about a three-way tie:
So, I think that a three-way tie is decided by common teams amongst all three teams and, if a single winner is determined, then they have it. If two remain tied and the third is gone, then the two remaining tied teams go back to the top of the list: #1 Head-to-head.
In a HOU, NWE, BAL tie, only IND and PIT are common opponents. HOU is 2-0 (with @IND remaining), NWE is 1-1 and BAL is 2-1. Assuming everyone has won out to get to the tie, the Texans take this with a win over the Colts.
In a HOU, NWE, PIT tie, only IND is common opponent. HOU is 1-0 (with @IND remaining), NWE is 1-0 and PIT is 1-0. Assuming everyone has won out to get to the tie, the Texans' additional game is moot as win percentage is the decider. As the tie is not broken here, it goes to conference record which would have HOU at 10-2, NWE at 10-2 and PIT at 9-3. The Steelers disappear at this stage, the Texans and Patriots go back to #3 (#1 and #2 not being possible). Common opponents now are IND, MIA, OAK and PIT, and both teams would be 4-1. #4: Strength of victory is next, which has both teams at +122 points currently (I presume this is the test here), so we then drop to #5: Strength of schedule at which point I cry uncle!
This is wrong. Common opponent is only used when there are 4 common opponents. Use this. http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures If NE, HOU, and BAL win out it will come down to strength of victory. Right now BAL and NE are ahead of HOU. But how that might change over the last 3 games, who knows.
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I'm not claiming to be the authority on this over ESPN, but I've watched their experts on TV if Houston gets to 13-3, there's no way they lose tiebreaker #3 to either of the other two teams who both have losses to Pittsburgh while the Texans would be perfect. Because tiebreakers #1 and #2 are not possible in a three-way tie, and Houston beats both teams in #3, no other tiebreaker comes into play, IMHO.
Given the fact that HOU lost to BAL, wouldn't #1 knock them out as having the worst W-L percentage among the clubs?
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Are you accounting for the fact that in a 3 way tie you just pick who wins the tiebreaker, then go back to the head to head tiebreakers with the remaining two?
At the risk of sounding like the Spanish Inquisition...I'll come in again.
At NLF.com, they have the full explanation of tiebreakers (http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures), and it's different when trying to separate division winners from each other. Here it is:
To determine home-field priority among division-titlists, apply Wild Card tie-breakers.
Which are:
Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)
1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
So, #1 will split BAL and PIT if necessary.
If HOU, NWE and BAL: #2 N/A; #3 - all will end on 10-2; #4 - not more than 4 common games; #5 "Strength of Victory is currently BAL, HOU, NWE, but this will swing against the Texans (see below). So most likely it's BAL, NWE, HOU in this scenario.
If HOU, NWE and PIT: #2 N/A; #3 eliminates PIT who can do no better than 9-3. HOU and NWE revert to the two-team system which follows the same order as above and gets to #5 Strength of Victory before splitting the teams. So most likely it's NWE, HOU, PIT.
Oh, and if you thought that the Texans were getting their own back on the Colts this year, not so fast. Strength of Victory is the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten. So the (presumed) two wins against the Colts are hurting our tiebreak credentials.
To the last, I will grapple with thee... from Hell's heart, I stab at thee! For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee!
Shitfuck.
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This is wrong. Common opponent is only used when there are 4 common opponents. Use this. http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures If NE, HOU, and BAL win out it will come down to strength of victory. Right now BAL and NE are ahead of HOU. But how that might change over the last 3 games, who knows.
Correct. If it's a three-way tie, it's all coming down to strength of victory. That's not good (see my post just above).
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Given the fact that HOU lost to BAL, wouldn't #1 knock them out as having the worst W-L percentage among the clubs?
Not in a three-way. Houston loses a head-to-head with Baltimore, but it cannot come to that in a three-way tie.
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Correct. If it's a three-way tie, it's all coming down to strength of victory. That's not good (see my post just above).
In short, the Texans are once again in need of help to improve their standing.
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In short, the Texans are once again in need of help to improve their standing.
THE POWER OF TEBOW COMPELS THE PATRIOTS TO LOSE!
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Not in a three-way.
It's OK if it's in a three-way.
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In short, the Texans are once again in need of help to improve their standing.
Ha! Yes.
To get a bye, they need to win out and the Patriots or Ravens to lose one. To get the #1 seed, they need them both to lose one.
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It's OK if it's in a three-way.
YTIFY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7gwX7rjOw)
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THE POWER OF TEBOW COMPELS THE PATRIOTS TO LOSE!
This Sunday is going to be a long day of couch-sitting:
12:00 HOU vs. CAR
15;15 NWE @ DEN
19:20 BAL @ SD
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I guess I'm alone in this but I can't get all that worked up over whether the team gets a bye or not. I'd love one, sure, and a second round game at home is huge but right now I'm trying to figure out how to stop Cam Newton.
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I guess I'm alone in this but I can't get all that worked up over whether the team gets a bye or not.
Rick Perry is outraged at the suggestion that Texans may get bye and is preparing another ad to condemn football teams that are bye.
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Rick Perry is outraged at the suggestion that Texans may get bye and is preparing another ad to condemn football teams that are bye.
I would think he would celebrate that.
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I would think he would celebrate that.
Only in private.
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Rick Perry is outraged at the suggestion that Texans may get bye and is preparing another ad to condemn football teams that are bye.
If the Texans don't get a bye our children won't be able to celebrate Christmas the holidays.
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...but right now I'm trying to figure out how to stop Cam Newton.
You know, they have people who are paid to do that.
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You know, they have people who are paid to do that.
This is the first year they have, I think.
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You know, they have people who are paid to do that.
His dad?
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I would think he would celebrate that.
In his favourite jacket (http://cdn.moxiebird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/rick-perry-brokeback-mountain-586x875.jpg).
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This is the first year they have, I think.
Oh, I think they've always paid people to do that.
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Oh, I think they've always paid people to do that.
All evidence to the contrary.
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Rick Perry is outraged at the suggestion that Texans may get bye and is preparing another ad to condemn football teams that are bye.
By the way, a friend of mine was in town last week visiting high schools recruiting for the university for which she works. She is a religious Republican (it may surprise some of you to learn that I freely associate with such people but I do on occasion) from California of all places. She was astounded that every morning in each school she visited the students recite the Pledge of Allegiance followed by the Texas Pledge and two minutes of silence for prayer. I was astounded because I had no idea that there is such a thing as the Texas Pledge and further after what I'm constantly hearing from the Our Kids Can't Celebrate Christmas crowd I would have thought a prayerful silence each morning an absolute impossibility.
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By the way, a friend of mine was in town last week visiting high schools recruiting for the university for which she works. She is a religious Republican (it may surprise some of you to learn that I freely associate with such people but I do on occasion) from California of all places. She was astounded that every morning in each school she visited the students recite the Pledge of Allegiance followed by the Texas Pledge and two minutes of silence for prayer. I was astounded because I had no idea that there is such a thing as the Texas Pledge and further after what I'm constantly hearing from the Our Kids Can't Celebrate Christmas crowd I would have thought a prayerful silence each morning an absolute impossibility.
"Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible."
Nice and short - I like it.
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"Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible."
Nice and short - I like it.
It's also blatantly false.
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Right now BAL and NE are ahead of HOU. But how that might change over the last 3 games, who knows.
According to the NFL, right now, HOU is ahead of BAL and NE based on conference winning percentage. Obviously, that could change, as BAL has three conference games left while HOU only has two.
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Obviously, that could change, as BAL has three conference games left while HOU only has two.
One of which is next Sunday night at San Diego, which should be a pretty tough game.
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According to the NFL, right now, HOU is ahead of BAL and NE based on conference winning percentage. Obviously, that could change, as BAL has three conference games left while HOU only has two.
If the Texans, Pats and Ravens win out, they will all have identical 10-2 conference records. Right now, Houston has a half-game lead on the others, having played (and won) one more game than them.
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One of which is next Sunday night at San Diego, which should be a pretty tough game.
And the Pats are at Tebow on Sunday afternoon. Could be a pivotal day.
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And the Pats are at Tebow on Sunday afternoon. Could be a pivotal day.
Does anybody really believe that New England doesn't win that game by 20?
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Does anybody really believe that New England doesn't win that game by 20?
Vegas thinks they'll win by 6. It started at 6.5.
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Does anybody really believe that New England doesn't win that game by 20?
They have a defense that will make Tebow look like Brady
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Does anybody really believe that New England doesn't win that game by 20?
Jesus.
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FWIW (possibly nothing), Yahoo's playoff scenario generator puts the Texans as the 2-seed with HOU, NE, BAL and PIT at 13-3...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=yahooranker
It's a nifty tool – you can set wins in all of the matchups for the next three weeks and see how it changes the playoff seeding. If nothing else, at least it should keep Limey busy for a while.
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FWIW (possibly nothing), Yahoo's playoff scenario generator puts the Texans as the 2-seed with HOU, NE, BAL and PIT at 13-3...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=yahooranker
It's a nifty tool – you can set wins in all of the matchups for the next three weeks and see how it changes the playoff seeding. If nothing else, at least it should keep Limey busy for a while.
I'm too busy laughing at this (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/2cd51d335b/bad-lip-reading-rick-perry-s-strong-ad).
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I'm too busy laughing at this (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/2cd51d335b/bad-lip-reading-rick-perry-s-strong-ad).
I prefer the dramatic warning against potato moths. (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/02f13e1ed8/herman-cain-a-bad-lip-reading-soundbite)
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FWIW (possibly nothing), Yahoo's playoff scenario generator puts the Texans as the 2-seed with HOU, NE, BAL and PIT at 13-3...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=yahooranker
It's a nifty tool – you can set wins in all of the matchups for the next three weeks and see how it changes the playoff seeding. If nothing else, at least it should keep Limey busy for a while.
According to that, if the Texans win out they will be guaranteed a bye.
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Vegas thinks they'll win by 6. It started at 6.5.
Let me pick one nit here:
Vegas doesn't think they'll win by 6. Vegas thinks they'll get even money on both sides for NE -6.
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Let me pick one nit here:
Vegas doesn't think they'll win by 6. Vegas thinks they'll get even money on both sides for NE -6.
How about this: Vegas thinks that at least half, if not the vast majority, of people don't think the Pats will win by 20.
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Let me pick one nit here:
Vegas doesn't think they'll win by 6. Vegas thinks they'll get even money on both sides for NE -6.
That is true, but ends up being mostly the same thing. If they don't think the line is right, they are set up to get killed by smart money.
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They have a defense that will make Tebow look like Brady
Tom Brady or Brady Quinn?
Sunday's game reminded me of how Dallas used to pull victories when it didn't appear they were going to. You old enough to remember those, sporadid? I couldn't decide if Yates looked like Staubach on that big run or baby McCoy (sorry for the reminder, Andy). My kids are eatin' it up, though--the boys, anyway.
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That is true, but ends up being mostly the same thing. If they don't think the line is right, they are set up to get killed by smart money.
Vegas is the smart money. Everyone else is betting on an upset.
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Vegas is the smart money. Everyone else is betting on an upset.
The point is, they'd like to balance the books but they can't always do it. For example, they were getting killed in college football this year because everyone was betting the big favorites (Stanford, Alabama, LSU, etc.) and the favorites kept covering, no matter how big the lines were. Because the public likes to bet the favorites, the casino was essentially taking the other sides of these bets (and kept pushing the spreads higher and higher to try and improve their odds). However, they are walking a fine line, because as soon as they push too far, the smart money can jump on it and clobber them that way too.
http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/against-the-spread/
Sort by ATS record and look at the top 5 teams; LSU 10-3, Stanford 9-2-1, Oklahoma State 9-3. Alabama 8-4, Oregon 6-6-1; Betting the top 5 to cover all season (which is what the public tends to do), you would've gone 42-18-2 (if you bet 110 bucks everytime you would've made 2,200).
The books do fine in the long run, but it's overly simplistic to assume they are always balanced; they are making directional bets on the lines (and not always winning, as you see this year).
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Tom Brady or Brady Quinn?
Sunday's game reminded me of how Dallas used to pull victories when it didn't appear they were going to. You old enough to remember those, sporadid? I couldn't decide if Yates looked like Staubach on that big run or baby McCoy (sorry for the reminder, Andy). My kids are eatin' it up, though--the boys, anyway.
Dude, with two starts under his belt you cannot compare anything TJ Yates does to Roger Staubach. Get the hell off Captain America's cape.
I did not remember much of the Staubach days, being I was born in 1975. I learned of the heroics through my older brother. We enacted all of the great cowboys moments in the back yard. I made some damn fine catches when I was a youngster. I also got to be Too-Tall Jones playing defense. He would throw the ball just low enough so I could swat it down - he preferred to be the Manster...would pitch me the ball (I would be the opposing tail back) and proceed to maul me. Fun days.
As for Yates scramble...I will say it was a very nice play. Yates looks like he will be a pretty dang good QB...does not seem to get rattled. I could see him being better than Schaub (in the years to come).
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As far as I know, Trump is one of the few people every to run a casino into bankruptcy...and he's done it twice. The lose - occasionally - in the short term but always win in the long run. They move the line the encourage people to bet the other way if money is getting heavy on one side, so that they maintain an equilibrium of positive and negative bets.
They won't always be perfect but it's not about predicting results; it's about balancing the bets. It's maths, pure and simple.
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As far as I know, Trump is one of the few people every to run a casino into bankruptcy...and he's done it twice. The lose - occasionally - in the short term but always win in the long run. They move the line the encourage people to bet the other way if money is getting heavy on one side, so that they maintain an equilibrium of positive and negative bets.
They won't always be perfect but it's not about predicting results; it's about balancing the bets. It's maths, pure and simple.
The underlying profit is that you bet 110 to win a 100; that's why they will always win in the long run. The fact is, however, that on any given bet it is likely to be unbalanced.
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As for Yates scramble...I will say it was a very nice play. Yates looks like he will be a pretty dang good QB...does not seem to get rattled. I could see him being better than Schaub (in the years to come).
There is a hell of a groundswell of people wanting Schaub gone and Yates retained as the starting QB. His scramble to keep the drive alive stands out in stark contrast to Schaub's decision* to back off from a potential game-winning touchdown scramble against the Raiders. I'm a fan...
* One of a number of bad decisions he made on that one play.
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There is a hell of a groundswell of people wanting Schaub gone and Yates retained as the starting QB.
I could see that. Yates has a very calm, non-panicky way about him. He is not your best choice this year, but I could very well see him being "the guy". Soon.
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Somewhere, Matt Cassel is nodding while sitting atop a huge pile of money.
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Dude, with two starts under his belt you cannot compare anything TJ Yates does to Roger Staubach. Get the hell off Captain America's cape.
I did not remember much of the Staubach days, being I was born in 1975. I learned of the heroics through my older brother. We enacted all of the great cowboys moments in the back yard. I made some damn fine catches when I was a youngster. I also got to be Too-Tall Jones playing defense. He would throw the ball just low enough so I could swat it down - he preferred to be the Manster...would pitch me the ball (I would be the opposing tail back) and proceed to maul me. Fun days.
As for Yates scramble...I will say it was a very nice play. Yates looks like he will be a pretty dang good QB...does not seem to get rattled. I could see him being better than Schaub (in the years to come).
Shoot, spore, by '75 I had been indoctrinated in the Cowboy kool-aid culture (much better now though). Two or three years prior to your birth, Staubach was described as "running like a sissy" during a playoff game. The remark got the guy fired. It wasn't ol' Tommy Brookshier or Alex Karras, but it was Alex somebody--or Alex nobody after that. Looking back, Roger would get in the open field and make jukes that weren't about to remind anyone of Sayers or LeRoy Kelly, but they did keep him from getting killed half the time. Yates and McCoy's 4th quarter runs harkened back to those kinds of runs, though they were probably more like Craig Morton's or Dandy Don's runs, the latter being of the, "What the fuck have I got myself into running this damned ball?", mode.
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Dude, with two starts under his belt you cannot compare anything TJ Yates does to Roger Staubach. Get the hell off Captain America's cape.
I did not remember much of the Staubach days, being I was born in 1975. I learned of the heroics through my older brother. We enacted all of the great cowboys moments in the back yard. I made some damn fine catches when I was a youngster. I also got to be Too-Tall Jones playing defense. He would throw the ball just low enough so I could swat it down - he preferred to be the Manster...would pitch me the ball (I would be the opposing tail back) and proceed to maul me. Fun days.
As for Yates scramble...I will say it was a very nice play. Yates looks like he will be a pretty dang good QB...does not seem to get rattled. I could see him being better than Schaub (in the years to come).
Did either of you pretend to be Jackie Smith?
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Did either of you pretend to be Jackie Smith?
Who? [Don't answer that...]
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He was the sickest man in America until Bartman came along.
EDIT: And color me wrong as rain on the timing issue of that Staubach observation earlier. The "sissy" chit was apparently in the '77 NFC Championship game (January 1st of '78). Alex Hawkins was the guy who made the remark.
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Did either of you pretend to be Jackie Smith?
NO, I have good hands. Damn you for bringing that up.
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NO, I have good hands. Damn you for bringing that up.
I thought about The Catch but decided that wasn't before your time.
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There is a hell of a groundswell of people wanting Schaub gone and Yates retained as the starting QB. His scramble to keep the drive alive stands out in stark contrast to Schaub's decision* to back off from a potential game-winning touchdown scramble against the Raiders. I'm a fan...
* One of a number of bad decisions he made on that one play.
I think Schaub has one year left on his contract. Unless TJ leads the team to the Super Bowl, it's Schaub's job next year without much else other than talk show banter. After that, he may be free to go somewhere else while TJ steps into the full time role at a much cheaper price for the team.
TJ has been good filling in, and very good considering these are his first NFL games. His pocket presence is something Schaub can only dream of. I don't think there's any way Schaub would have executed both of the last two drives last Sunday. Schaub knows this offense better than anyone not named Kubiak and is therefore the team's best option, but when it comes to scrambling together a 2 minute drive I think I'd rather have TJ in there.
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Staubach versus Longley, maybe? Don't worry, sporadic; I'll tap the breaks.
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I thought about The Catch but decided that wasn't before your time.
Jeez, you are killing me.
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Staubach versus Longley, maybe? Don't worry, sporadic; I'll tap the breaks.
Thanks, dude!!
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Jeez, you are killing me.
Will a cookie make you feel better? Any closings this way soon?
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FWIW (possibly nothing), Yahoo's playoff scenario generator puts the Texans as the 2-seed with HOU, NE, BAL and PIT at 13-3...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=yahooranker
It's a nifty tool – you can set wins in all of the matchups for the next three weeks and see how it changes the playoff seeding. If nothing else, at least it should keep Limey busy for a while.
The Chronicle (of all people) has figured it out (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/12/texans-seem-to-be-an-outside-looking-in-a-top-seed-bye/).
The only way the Texans can finish as the No. 1 overall seed is if they win out and New England and Baltimore both stumble.
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That’s because their strength of victory is the worst of all four teams. And it won’t get any better, considering the finish against teams with a combined 11-28 record.
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Will a cookie make you feel better? Any closings this way soon?
you bet your ass it would!! I have one on Augusta (between San Felipe and Woodway) tomorrow afternoon, not sure what time yet.
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you bet your ass it would!! I have one on Augusta (between San Felipe and Woodway) tomorrow afternoon, not sure what time yet.
Let me know!!!
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Let me know!!!
Absolutely. Next time you want to talk cookies, please use PM...I don't want to have to share with any of the other monkeys around here!
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The Chronicle (of all people) has figured it out (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/12/texans-seem-to-be-an-outside-looking-in-a-top-seed-bye/).
Butbutbut...Tebow!
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Butbutbut...Tebow!
Old Jesus vs. New Jesus! Who will win?
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The Chronicle (of all people) has figured it out (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/12/texans-seem-to-be-an-outside-looking-in-a-top-seed-bye/).
They have it figured out...except when the don't.
The Texans, Ravens, and Patriots could all win out and the Texans end up with the # 2 seed. Strength of Victory isn't just looking at who you have left to play, but how the teams you have beaten finish out.
There are multiple scenarios (all very realistic by the way) that have the Texans passing the Patriots in SOV if they both win out.
Miami beats Buffalo (also could work with Vikings over Redskins)
Giants beat Jets
Giants beat Cowboys
another
Tampa beats Dallas
Atlanta beats NO
another
Miami beats Buffalo
Vikings beat Redskins
Giants beat Cowboys
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So what you're saying is that we should root for the Cowboys to lose?
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So what you're saying is that we should root for the Cowboys to lose?
Yep...got me thinking...the Cowboys wet the bed scenario is my favorite...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=custom&14=44455500&15=00101005&16=00015014 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=custom&14=44455500&15=00101005&16=00015014)
Bucs beat Dallas
Giants beat Dallas
Texans get a bye week.
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OK, just what more could go wrong?
Per Mark Berman:
Texans defensive coordionator Wade Phillips will take a medical leave of absence for a couple of weeks.
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Per Mark Berman:
Texans defensive coordionator Wade Phillips will take a medical leave of absence for a couple of weeks.
Interesting; during the game a couple of weeks ago I remarked to Mrs Pete that a shot of Wade showed he had a big bruise on his inside elbow, like he just gave blood and had a bad stick. Hope it's not too serious!
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Interesting; during the game a couple of weeks ago I remarked to Mrs Pete that a shot of Wade showed he had a big bruise on his inside elbow, like he just gave blood and had a bad stick. Hope it's not too serious!
Also on the sidelines during the Atl game, one of the assistance coaches started rubbing wades belly in fun when the d stopped Atl at end of game (2nd to last drive). Wade kinda winced and looked like he told him to stop.
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And someone in this thread joked about Wade Phillips getting hurt. FFFFUUUUUUUU
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http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Phillips-to-take-medical-leave/c887566f-cd90-48e3-adf2-be1518cb02df
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Berman says its a non-life threatening kidney procedure.
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Berman says its a non-life threatening kidney procedure.
He'd know.
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Texan Game Plan 1st half: STOMP UPON DICK.
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These announcers are horrible. I know this isnt a marquee matchup, but fuck me it's unbearable.
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Is there any reason not to go for two there other than "might as well do it later?"
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Is there any reason not to go for two there other than "might as well do it later?"
Don't go for two until you have to.
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Texan Game Plan 1st half entire game: STOMP UPON DICK.
Give Foster the rock, GODDAMNIT!
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Don't go for two until you have to.
If you get a TD after being down 15 with limited time remaining you have to go for two at some point.
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If you get a TD after being down 15 with limited time remaining you have to go for two at some point.
down by 15 you get the 7 first to insure making it a one possession game. And, most coaches say you don't count points until the fourth quarter (to answer when you start going for two in the first place).
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down by 15 you get the 7 first to insure making it a one possession game. And, most coaches say you don't count points until the fourth quarter (to answer when you start going for two in the first place).
The situation in the Texans game was late in the fourth quarter.
And I understand the mentality that you should go for it later, but that seems more like procrastination than strategy.
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The situation in the Texans game was late in the fourth quarter.
And I understand the mentality that you should go for it later, but that seems more like procrastination than strategy.
Not really, it is complete strategy. if you miss the MUCH lower percentage play of a two point conversion (in relation to an extra point) then you still have a two possession game. The end goal is always getting to a one possession game.
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Not really, it is complete strategy. if you miss the MUCH lower percentage play of a two point conversion (in relation to an extra point) then you still have a two possession game. The end goal is always getting to a one possession game.
But that just delays the inevitable if the strategy works. The end goal should be to tie the game; picking which of the final possessions to go for it seems to me a distinction without a difference.
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If you get a TD after being down 15 with limited time remaining you have to go for two at some point.
Right. You have to score two touchdowns. You go for two when you score the second one.
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But that just delays the inevitable if the strategy works. The end goal should be to tie the game; picking which of the final possessions to go for it seems to me a distinction without a difference.
Mathmatically it makes no difference, but it likely does psychologically, if nothing else. If you go for two and miss, you have to plan for two more scores. It completely changes your strategy.
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The real reasoning is that the situation could change and you wouldn't want to have gone for two.
The flip-side is that if you go early, you know if you made it (and thus whether you need to score once or twice more).
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HH - I would argue that knowing you havew to score twice is the advantage of going early.
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But that just delays the inevitable if the strategy works. The end goal should be to tie the game; picking which of the final possessions to go for it seems to me a distinction without a difference.
What you are missing is that the situation can change - e.g. If the other team kicks two field goals, you were better off not going for two (if you didn't make it you are down 15 instead of 14).
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What you are missing is that the situation can change - e.g. If the other team kicks two field goals, you were better off not going for two (if you didn't make it you are down 15 instead of 14).
Yeah, but in the situation I'm talking about it's late in the game and there's not enough time to fall any further behind.
I understand what Sporadic is talking about. If you kick the extra point, it becomes a one possession game. If you miss the first two point conversion, you're down two possessions going into the end of the game. Whereas, if you miss the second two point conversion, you're in the same position you just were, which is a one possession game, but now it can be won on a field goal.
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Yeah, but in the situation I'm talking about it's late in the game and there's not enough time to fall any further behind.
I understand what Sporadic is talking about. If you kick the extra point, it becomes a one possession game. If you miss the first two point conversion, you're down two possessions going into the end of the game. Whereas, if you miss the second two point conversion, you're in the same position you just were, which is a one possession game, but now it can be won on a field goal.
The Texans scored with 14 minutes left, so it wasn't that situation
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By the way, HH, I hope you cracked open the bottle of Dom before today's game and didn't wait until after.
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The Texans scored with 14 minutes left, so it wasn't that situation
Now you are bringing reality into my suddenly hypothetical question.
But yeah, good point. When I was discussing it after the game I remembered it being later in the game. In the Texans situation today, there's no real upside to going for two when they scored the touchdown that brought it into a "one possession" game.
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By the way, HH, I hope you cracked open the bottle of Dom before today's game and didn't wait until after.
More importantly, I hope he didn't drink any more Freixenet
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Yeah, but in the situation I'm talking about it's late in the game and there's not enough time to fall any further behind.
BTW, I agree with you in that case (HH may not) - I think the advantage of knowing whether it's a one or two score game outweighs anything else.
Shouldn't you be on a honeymoon or something?
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Shouldn't you be on a honeymoon or something?
I would love to be, but I fear that if I took a five week long honeymoon there would be nothing on my desk when I eventually returned to work.
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Shit, time flies. Any kids yet?
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HH - I would argue that knowing you havew to score twice is the advantage of going early.
You plan on having to score twice, unless you have no choice. Which is why you don't want to be chasing that point.
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By the way, HH, I hope you cracked open the bottle of Dom before today's game and didn't wait until after.
Wasn't the Dom, but yes, popped the bubbly this morning. It was Korbel. I'm sure Biz would turn his nose up at that as well.
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at least the Ravens are sucking it up tonight
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Wasn't the Dom, but yes, popped the bubbly this morning. It was Korbel. I'm sure Biz would turn his nose up at that as well.
If you mixed it with OJ I approve
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at least the Ravens are sucking it up tonight
Won't matter if the Steelers don't follow suit.
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If you mixed it with OJ I approve
Mixing with OJ never goes well. #Brentwood
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Mixing with OJ never goes well. #Brentwood
Tebow has eclipsed OJ when it comes to white broncos.
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Tebow has eclipsed OJ when it comes to white broncos.
After today, ESPN is back to asking who the Broncos should draft at QB.
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After today, ESPN is back to asking who the Broncos should draft at QB.
Barkley would be a good pickup
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After today, ESPN is back to asking who the Broncos should draft at QB.
North Korea has a similar issue.
The Dear Leader died on a train (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-19/kim-jong-il-north-korea-s-dear-leader-dictator-dead-at-70-yonhap-says.html) yesterday.
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If you mixed it with OJ I approve
Drank it straight. I also didn't boil the hamburgers. You would not have enjoyed our tailgate.
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Drank it straight. I also didn't boil the hamburgers. You would not have enjoyed our tailgate.
The ideal hamburger is boiled, then frozen with liquid nitrogen then deep-fried
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704615504576172610668896674.html#
What kind of shitty tailgate was this?
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The ideal hamburger is boiled, then frozen with liquid nitrogen then deep-fried
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704615504576172610668896674.html#
What kind of shitty tailgate was this?
I don't know about Hudson but I eventually grew out of bringing my centrifuge to the tailgates.
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I don't know about Hudson but I eventually grew out of bringing my centrifuge to the tailgates.
The best thing about cooking Sous vide is that it's so fucking easy - haven't taken the LN2 plunge yet though
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The best thing about cooking Sous vide is that it's so fucking easy - haven't taken the LN2 plunge yet though
Even Geoffrey Zakarian finds your attitudes pretentious.
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Even Geoffrey Zakarian finds your attitudes pretentious.
Low blow
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The best thing about cooking Sous vide is that it's so fucking easy - haven't taken the LN2 plunge yet though
I'm not looking for the easiest way, son, I'm looking for the best way. Real men cook meat with fire, not warm water.
Also, I drank the Korbel out of a platic champagne glass...I left the Waterford toasting flutes at the house.
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I'm not looking for the easiest way, son, I'm looking for the best way. Real men cook meat with fire, not warm water.
Also, I drank the Korbel out of a platic champagne glass...I left the Waterford toasting flutes at the house.
Waterford is so common. If it's not Kinsale crystal, it's just glass.
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These announcers are horrible. I know this isnt a marquee matchup, but fuck me it's unbearable.
Who the fuck WERE those guys? Did you catch the "For all intensive purposes..." about midway through the game?
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Mathmatically it makes no difference, but it likely does psychologically, if nothing else. If you go for two and miss, you have to plan for two more scores. It completely changes your strategy.
Isn't this a good reason to go for it after the 1st TD? I.e., if you miss the 2-point conversion, you now know that you have to score a TD quickly to give yourself time to get the ball back and drive for a field goal.
If you take the 1-point conversion, use the clock on your next TD drive on the assumption that you'll make the 2-pointer, but then miss it, you're fucked.
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Isn't this a good reason to go for it after the 1st TD? I.e., if you miss the 2-point conversion, you now know that you have to score a TD quickly to give yourself time to get the ball back and drive for a field goal.
If you take the 1-point conversion, use the clock on your next TD drive on the assumption that you'll make the 2-pointer, but then miss it, you're fucked.
No. Get the game to one possession. Period. End of story.
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Who the fuck WERE those guys? Did you catch the "For all intensive purposes..." about midway through the game?
Morons. I was watching at a sports bar and they kept changing the audio between the game and music, but I distinctly remember that one.
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Morons. I was watching at a sports bar and they kept changing the audio between the game and music, but I distinctly remember that one.
My favorite was, "The key to the rest of the game is how well the Panthers play." Or something of that ilk.
Oh, and Rivera challenging the spot on the first down for "momentum," not because, you know, it was a crucial first down to keep a late drive alive.
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My favorite was, "The key to the rest of the game is how well the Panthers play." Or something of that ilk.
Oh, and Rivera challenging the spot on the first down for "momentum," not because, you know, it was a crucial first down to keep a late drive alive.
Ah yes, the "momentum challenge." That was one of the few things that made me smile during the game.
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Isn't this a good reason to go for it after the 1st TD? I.e., if you miss the 2-point conversion, you now know that you have to score a TD quickly to give yourself time to get the ball back and drive for a field goal.
If you take the 1-point conversion, use the clock on your next TD drive on the assumption that you'll make the 2-pointer, but then miss it, you're fucked.
If you know you need two scores, so does your opponent (unless that's Kubiak, maybe). That will influence his strategy, too. If you go for one so that there's still the *possibility* that it's a one-possession game, your opponent probably has to be a little more aggressive with his play, which may work out to your advantage. If he *knows* that it's a two-possession game, that probably isn't the case.
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Morons. I was watching at a sports bar and they kept changing the audio between the game and music, but I distinctly remember that one.
Tate's first carry, they called him "Steve Tate"
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Isn't this a good reason to go for it after the 1st TD? I.e., if you miss the 2-point conversion, you now know that you have to score a TD quickly to give yourself time to get the ball back and drive for a field goal.
If you take the 1-point conversion, use the clock on your next TD drive on the assumption that you'll make the 2-pointer, but then miss it, you're fucked.
If you miss the two, and use up the clock on your next drive, you're also fucked. The idea is to keep within one score, so that if you find yourself with one or two plays left, you've got a shot. By taking the one early, you can still have a chance, even if you get the ball back with one second. Basically it keeps you in the game until the very last second.
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Who the fuck WERE those guys? Did you catch the "For all intensive purposes..." about midway through the game?
The preponderance of ex-athletes on the TV is destroying the public's ability to speak in anything other than clipped gibberish and malaprops.
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The preponderance of ex-athletes on the TV is destroying the public's ability to speak in anything other than clipped gibberish and malaprops.
This comment. This comment RIGHT HERE by this internet commenter. Now, you want to talk about comments? Let me tell you, THIS is a comment.
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This comment. This comment RIGHT HERE by this internet commenter. Now, you want to talk about comments? Let me tell you, THIS is a comment.
I was rather fond of the Tebow OJ white bronco comment myself! I daresay it swung the momentum 110%!
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See Panthers in Super Bowl 38. I know they went for two at least twice and failed, I suppose uncertain they would get many chances to score again so wanted to try to get within a fg and then try to get AHEAD by a fg when they took the lead five or six minutes later. Carolina's chase of those points had the Patriots doing the same thing, going for two to get a full 7 point lead.
The only one of the three that seemed suspect in thinking to me was the first one when the Panthers scored early in the 4th to make it 21-16. I suppose they never would have guessed they were about to be in the wildest 4th quarter in Super Bowl memory from a total points/lead change standpoint--with most of the points being scored in the second half of the quarter.
I wouldn't suggest that just kicking the extra points would have changed the outcome of the game, but it could have made for some different strategy down the stretch. Fun game to watch either way.
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The preponderance of ex-athletes on the TV is destroying the public's ability to speak in anything other than clipped gibberish and malaprops.
I'm Craig James, and I'm running for senative.
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From my stand point of view they're just escape goats.
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FWIW (possibly nothing), Yahoo's playoff scenario generator puts the Texans as the 2-seed with HOU, NE, BAL and PIT at 13-3...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=yahooranker
It's a nifty tool – you can set wins in all of the matchups for the next three weeks and see how it changes the playoff seeding. If nothing else, at least it should keep Limey busy for a while.
Given the Ravens loss last night and Steelers likely loss tonight, the Yahoo playoff ranker says: if (1) Texans win their next two games; and (2) Baltimore loses a game, the Texans get a bye.
Now, assuming the Giants beat the Jets next week (entirely possible), if Cincy beats Baltimore in week 17 the Bengals will make the playoffs (increased motivation differential(TM) with Baltimore already being in, but the Ravens would still be playing for a bye). Anyway, that's not out the realm of reasonable possibility.
Of course, given how awful Yates & Co looked yesterday, proposition one is hardly a given.
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Of course, given how awful Yates & Co looked yesterday, proposition one is hardly a given.
It would be just the Texans' luck to run into Indy just as they figure out what they're trying to do.
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Given the Ravens loss last night and Steelers likely loss tonight, the Yahoo playoff ranker says: if (1) Texans win their next two games; and (2) Baltimore loses a game, the Texans get a bye.
Now, assuming the Giants beat the Jets next week (entirely possible), if Cincy beats Baltimore in week 17 the Bengals will make the playoffs (increased motivation differential(TM) with Baltimore already being in, but the Ravens would still be playing for a bye). Anyway, that's not out the realm of reasonable possibility.
Of course, given how awful Yates & Co looked yesterday, proposition one is hardly a given.
The Texans now have a better in-conference record than the Ravens, so hold tiebreakers over both them and the Steelers. Got to win out though, I suspect.
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The Texans now have a better in-conference record than the Ravens, so hold tiebreakers over both them and the Steelers. Got to win out though, I suspect.
Conference record only matterd in a three-way tie. There can't be a three-way tie with BAL, PIT and HOU. BAL still holds first tiebreaker over HOU. The Texans need BAL to lose again and PIT to win that division.
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I'm Craig James, and I'm running for senative.
So much of this. For those of you who haven't seen this (http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2011/12/14/2635982/craig-james-for-senative-born-to-run) yet, please do click.
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The Texans now have a better in-conference record than the Ravens, so hold tiebreakers over both them and the Steelers. Got to win out though, I suspect.
They need to win Thursday and hope for league wide dick-stepping. I have tickets to the Texans/Titans game, so there's no way Houston comes out with a win on New Year's Day.
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Conference record only matterd in a three-way tie. There can't be a three-way tie with BAL, PIT and HOU. BAL still holds first tiebreaker over HOU. The Texans need BAL to lose again and PIT to win that division.
Well...fuck!
Although the Ravens finish the season in Cincy, which might be important for the Bengals. Pittsburgh are at home to the Rams and on the road in Cleveland to finish, which seems easier on paper the internet.
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Well...fuck!
Although the Ravens finish the season in Cincy, which might be important for the Bengals. Pittsburgh are at home to the Rams and on the road in Cleveland to finish, which seems easier on paper the internet.
As easy as the Panthers at home.
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They need to win Thursday and hope for league wide dick-stepping. I have tickets to the Texans/Titans game, so there's no way Houston comes out with a win on New Year's Day.
You can come by my tailgate and drink some Biz-unworthy champagne. That may make it feel better.
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As easy as the Panthers at home.
The Rams are one game better than the Colts.
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I'm Craig James, and I'm running for senative.
Is there any truth to the allegation that you, Craig James, killed five hookers while at SMU?
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Is there any truth to the allegation that you, Craig James, killed five hookers while at SMU?
Why won't he just answer the question?
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You can come by my tailgate and drink some Biz-unworthy champagne. That may make it feel better.
Is my wife welcome as well? And by welcome, I mean no shrimp peels tossed at her.
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Conference record only matterd in a three-way tie. There can't be a three-way tie with BAL, PIT and HOU. BAL still holds first tiebreaker over HOU. The Texans need BAL to lose again and PIT to win that division.
Assuming the Texans win out....
A NE loss to either MIA or BUF will guarantee the Texans the #1 spot. Even in BAL wins out, the Texans would have the tiebreakers over both teams (conference record).
If NE wins out they are the #1 seed... a BAL loss to either CLE or CIN will give the Texans the # 2 spot.
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Is my wife welcome as well? And by welcome, I mean no shrimp peels tossed at her.
Of course. Only we'll be having the traditional New Years Day black eyd peas and mustard greens.
Wait a minute....she's not a Titans fan, is she?
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Assuming the Texans win out....
A NE loss to either MIA or BUF will guarantee the Texans the #1 spot. Even in BAL wins out, the Texans would have the tiebreakers over both teams (conference record).
If NE wins out they are the #1 seed... a BAL loss to either CLE or CIN will give the Texans the # 2 spot.
Again, conference record only comes into play in the event of a three way tie among the division winners. If it comes down to HOU and BAL only, the Ravens have the tiebreaker.
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Again, conference record only comes into play in the event of a three way tie among the division winners. If it comes down to HOU and BAL only, the Ravens have the tiebreaker.
I think Stan's scenario was a NE loss and BAL/HOU win out, resulting an a three-way tie. If NE win out, the Texans - as you pointed out - need the Ravens to drop one of the last two to garner a bye.
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I think Stan's scenario was a NE loss and BAL/HOU win out, resulting an a three-way tie. If NE win out, the Texans - as you pointed out - need the Ravens to drop one of the last two to garner a bye.
And if the Pats manage to lose both, the Texans need the Ravens to lose again to get the #1 seed. In other words, the Texans need a lot of help to get the # 1, and still a little help to get a bye.
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And if the Pats manage to lose both, the Texans need the Ravens to lose again to get the #1 seed. In other words, the Texans need a lot of help to get the # 1, and still a little help to get a bye.
Yep. But at least they are guaranteed home field for their first playoff game, whichever round it's in.
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Yep. But at least they are guaranteed home field for their first playoff game, whichever round it's in.
Absolutely. And that's huge, especially if they end up hosting BAL or PIT the first round.
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Absolutely. And that's huge, especially if they end up hosting BAL or PIT the first round.
Or NE...
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I think Stan's scenario was a NE loss and BAL/HOU win out, resulting an a three-way tie. If NE win out, the Texans - as you pointed out - need the Ravens to drop one of the last two to garner a bye.
Yep...
I guess the comment that threw me a bit was PIT needing to win their Division. Whatever the Steelers do from here on out doesn't really impact the Texans.
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I guess the comment that threw me a bit was PIT needing to win their Division. Whatever the Steelers do from here on out doesn't really impact the Texans.
It does if they win their division with a better record than Houston.
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It does if they win their division with a better record than Houston.
Which would mean the Texans would have to lose to either IND or TEN. At that point, they wouldn't deserve the bye week.
Either way, I sure like talking about getting a potential #1 seed with 2 weeks to go rather than trying to figure out draft position.
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Yep...
I guess the comment that threw me a bit was PIT needing to win their Division. Whatever the Steelers do from here on out doesn't really impact the Texans.
Of course it does. The Texans lose a tiebreaker with the Ravens but win it against the Steelers. Who wins that division could decide if the Texans get a bye or not. Lots of playoff implications.
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Of course it does. The Texans lose a tiebreaker with the Ravens but win it against the Steelers. Who wins that division could decide if the Texans get a bye or not. Lots of playoff implications.
The only scenarios I was referring to were ones in which the Texans win their final two games.
In order for the Steelers to win their division they have to finish a full game ahead of Baltimore because the Ravens have beaten them twice head to head. The only way the Steelers can get a game ahead of the Ravens is if Baltimore loses one of their last two. A Ravens loss coupled with two Texans wins guarantees the Texans a first round bye no matter what the Steelers do.
Your original post said that "The Texans need BAL to lose again and PIT to win that division" My point was that the Texans don't need the Steelers to win the division in order to get the first round bye.
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Your original post said that "The Texans need BAL to lose again and PIT to win that division" My point was that the Texans don't need the Steelers to win the division in order to get the first round bye.
I never said they did. What I meant was, it's in the Texans best interest for the Steelers to win that division. What the Steelers do can greatly effect the Texans.
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I never said they did. What I meant was, it's in the Texans best interest for the Steelers to win that division. What the Steelers do can greatly effect the Texans.
If the Texans win out and either BAL or NE lose 1 game PIT could go 2-0, 1-1, or 0-2 and it wouldn't affect the Texans seeding or bye week.
If the Steelers win the division, the Texans will be helped by nature of the Ravens loss, not by PIT victories or lack thereof. It would only impact where PIT is seeded and potential division/championship round matchups.
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If the Texans win out and either BAL or NE lose 1 game PIT could go 2-0, 1-1, or 0-2 and it wouldn't affect the Texans seeding or bye week.
If the Steelers win the division, the Texans will be helped by nature of the Ravens loss, not by PIT victories or lack thereof. It would only impact where PIT is seeded and potential division/championship round matchups.
You're still trying to project things I didn't say. The Steelers cannot win that division without another BAL loss. The Texans cannot get a bye without at least one BAL or NE loss. Therefore, it's in their best interest for the Ravens to lose again, which I was presumming meant PIT won that division.
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Worst Internet Argument Ever.
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Worst Internet Argument Ever.
Stop Projecting!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUJPoWI8wj4
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You're still trying to project things I didn't say. The Steelers cannot win that division without another BAL loss. The Texans cannot get a bye without at least one BAL or NE loss. Therefore, it's in their best interest for the Ravens to lose again, which I was presumming meant PIT won that division.
Gotcha. We agree.
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Worst Internet Argument Ever.
No it isn't.
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No it isn't.
Your arm's off!
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Your arm's off!
I guess everyone saw the recent rebroadcast. Should we sack anybody?
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I guess everyone saw the recent rebroadcast. Should we sack anybody?
We should sack those responsible for sacking those who have not been sacked.
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We should sack those responsible for sacking those who have not been sacked.
So who is responsible for Pam, then?
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So who is responsible for Pam, then?
The moose.
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So who is responsible for Pam, then?
Ralph the Wonder Llama.
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Shit, time flies. Any kids yet?
can't seem to decide if we're going to go for one now, or two later
we'll keep you posted
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So who is responsible for Pam, then?
Did Craig James kill her too?
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Did Craig James kill her too?
Pam was one of the five hookers Craig James killed while he was at SMU. I hadn't heard that one before.
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Okay I give up. Where the fuck is NFL Network on the TWC Austin digital cable channel set?
ETA: Nevermind. Apparently it's nonexistent. Can't wait to get rid of that fucking company for good.
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Who the fuck are these idiot announcers on NFL network? Are they ever going to stop talking about how Peyton Manning is the face of the NFL and call the fucking game?
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And then we get the single worst roughing the passer call in the history of football.
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And then we get the single worst roughing the passer call in the history of football.
These refs are terrible. I love how they see an illegal block in the back but miss the hit out of bounds on the return.
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These refs are terrible. I love how they see an illegal block in the back but miss the hit out of bounds on the return.
The refs are almost as bad as the announcers. Seriously, for as much money as the NFL has, they hire the worst fucking people to work for them.
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Is Yates EVER going to throw the ball past the line of scrimmage ever again?
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And then we get the single worst roughing the passer call in the history of football.
I usually don't get that worked up about the officiating but I am so motherfucking angry right now I can't believe it. I feel terrible that that cocksucker robbed JJ of a sack not to mention what it did to the team.
That piece of shit is the same fuckwit who high fived Vince Young a couple of years ago.
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Is Yates EVER going to throw the ball past the line of scrimmage ever again?
I guess not.
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The refs are almost as bad as the announcers. Seriously, for as much money as the NFL has, they hire the worst fucking people to work for them.
Prepare yourself to get royally fucked in the playoffs.
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Prepare yourself to get royally fucked in the playoffs.
One thing's for sure...Jerome Boger hates the Texans.
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Ugly ugly ugly.
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Ugly ugly ugly.
With this type of play calling, I can't imagine the Texans winning another game this year.
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With this type of play calling, I can't imagine the Texans winning another game this year.
It's sometimes hard to tell if it's the play calling or TJ's making poor reads.
That said the sneak was wide open on that last third down.
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3rd and 10+ against the Texans is pretty much a guaranteed first down.
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It's sometimes hard to tell if it's the play calling or TJ's making poor reads.
That said the sneak was wide open on that last third down.
It's both. At some point, you have to throw the ball across the line of scrimmage.
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The unbeatable draw play. This is like old times for the Texans.
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It's both. At some point, you have to throw the ball across the line of scrimmage.
Last week was the first week that I really thought the offense was hindered seriously by not having Andre in the game. Today is more of the same. The radio guys said that TJ's missed Jacoby a couple of times. Of course I can't see that through the television but last Sunday in person I definitely noticed his missing some open guys down the field. He's a rookie and he's going to do that, but he needs to grow up quickly.
Having the Colts squarely in the game at halftime is not good.
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Once they made the playoffs, the coaching has completely reverted to last season. They are playing to not get hurt, not win the game.
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Last week was the first week that I really thought the offense was hindered seriously by not having Andre in the game. Today is more of the same. The radio guys said that TJ's missed Jacoby a couple of times. Of course I can't see that through the television but last Sunday in person I definitely noticed his missing some open guys down the field. He's a rookie and he's going to do that, but he needs to grow up quickly.
Having the Colts squarely in the game at halftime is not good.
Last week, Yates made some REALLY poor reads and decisions. He's doing the same tonight. He's GOT to throw the ball downfield. Even if you miss, you've got to throw it. You simply can't have every pass be a little dump 8 yards behind the line scrimmage.
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Whomever that is filling in for Briesel is terrible. He's killing them.
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Whomever that is filling in for Briesel is terrible. He's killing them.
Antoine Caldwell. He is fucking horrible.
I'm all for moving Winston inside and drafting a quicker RT.
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Antoine Caldwell. He is fucking horrible.
I'm all for moving Winston inside and drafting a quicker RT.
I don't think he's hit anyone tonight. He's been run over a few times, but that's it.
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I don't think he's hit anyone tonight. He's been run over a few times, but that's it.
On the occasional play where he does not immediately find himself on his ass I've seen him run cheerfully past a few people.
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The stick stepping penalties have got to stop as well. And Matt Turk...you cannot tell me that there was no one available who could kick a football more than 30 yards.
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Ofer on third down. Terrible.
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Once again...thirds and long is automatic.
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Six points on offense will NOT win an NFL game, let a lone an NFL playoff game.
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Yates looks like he's absolutely terrified out there.
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How did the defense just forget how to tackle?
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Well, this drive is the season. If the don't score, they've got no chance of getting a bye and doing anything in the playoffs. They've just mailed in the last two games, but someone needs to wake Kubiak the fuck up and and tell him that it's important.
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Somebody put a tent on this circus.
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3rd and 10. Auto fucking matic.
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Unfucking believable dickstepping. You're in a fucking prevent defense, and you let a guy get behind you downfield.
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The NFL NEEDS the Colts to win this game. They've made it obvious.
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Unfucking believable dickstepping. You're in a fucking prevent defense, and you let a guy get behind you downfield.
With the refs stepping on their balls a few times for good measure.
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Unfuckingbelievable.
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FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. I swear, if they don't CUT THAT WORTHLESS SACK OF SHIT KAREEM JACKSON, I'M NOT FUCKING GIVING THE TEXANS ANOTHER FUCKING DIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. I swear, if they don't CUT THAT WORTHLESS SACK OF SHIT KAREEM JACKSON, I'M NOT FUCKING GIVING THE TEXANS ANOTHER FUCKING DIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this.
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I WANT MY FUCKING MONEY BACK ON PLAYOFF TICKETS......NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It must be nice to always be awarded a first down at the end of the game.
An equally shit job by both the defense and the referees on that drive. Fucking fuck.
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It must be nice to always be awarded a first down at the end of the game.
An equally shit job by both the defense and the referees on that drive. Fucking fuck.
Kareem Jackson is a fucking joke.
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Merry Christmas, Peyton.
Sincerely,
NFL Officiating Crew
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FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. I swear, if they don't CUT THAT WORTHLESS SACK OF SHIT KAREEM JACKSON, I'M NOT FUCKING GIVING THE TEXANS ANOTHER FUCKING DIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It really makes me wonder. They hit the jackpot on Watt but obviously screwed the pooch on Jackson. You guys can make some good draft picks, fine. Admit when you fuck one up and get rid of that worthless cocksucker. He is an incredible albatross on the team. The defense performs far better when Allen is playing.
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I've decided Kubiak does the absolute bare minimum to keep his job and then sabotages the rest of the season.
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It really makes me wonder. They hit the jackpot on Watt but obviously screwed the pooch on Jackson. You guys can make some good draft picks, fine. Admit when you fuck one up and get rid of that worthless cocksucker. He is an incredible albatross on the team. The defense performs far better when Allen is playing.
When Jackson is in the game, the other team moves the ball and scores. When he's not, they don't. It's that simple. He is the weakest link, and he's awful. Not poor, not "needs to get better", he's completely and utterly worthless on the field. He has personally cost this team at least 10 games in the last three years.
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I've decided Kubiak does the absolute bare minimum to keep his job and then sabotages the rest of the season.
He's certainly coasted in on his 10 wins this year. He has shown absolutely no desire to win another one this year.
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I want to kick something.
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When Jackson is in the game, the other team moves the ball and scores. When he's not, they don't. It's that simple. He is the weakest link, and he's awful. Not poor, not "needs to get better", he's completely and utterly worthless on the field. He has personally cost this team at least 10 games in the last three years.
Dude, I know. I watch all the games. I cannot fucking believe these dumbfucks wasted a first round pick on a guy who literally cannot play in the NFL. A fifth? OK. A fourth? Not crazy about it, but sometimes you look for a home run. A first? Every fucking first round pick should play for your team for years barring injury.
That's what pisses me off. They hit a home run on Watt and seriously fuck up on goons like Jackson and Okoye.
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It really makes me wonder. They hit the jackpot on Watt but obviously screwed the pooch on Jackson. You guys can make some good draft picks, fine. Admit when you fuck one up and get rid of that worthless cocksucker. He is an incredible albatross on the team. The defense performs far better when Allen is playing.
The worst part is, with the game, and the season, on the line, the Texans choose to leave Jackson alone, one on one with Reggie Wayne. It's as if the Texans have never seen Jackson play before.
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I want to kick something.
Me too. That's it. The season is over. The Texans cannot win two playoff games on the road. Not winning this game cost them the rest of the season, yet dipshit Kubiak is completely oblivious, I'm sure. And next week, Kareem Jackson will be back on the field, and that dumbass will expect a different result.
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Play calling was horrible, but the officiating was straight out of he
WWF's NBA's play book. I wanted them to just give the Colts the fucking touchdown so that the Texans would get the ball back with more time on the clock.
That said, the texans are 0-2 without Phillips on the sideline, 10-3 with. No coincidence in those numbers IMHO.
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The worst part is, with the game, and the season, on the line, the Texans choose to leave Jackson alone, one on one with Reggie Wayne. It's as if the Texans have never seen Jackson play before.
Or Reggie Wayne.
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Play calling was horrible, but the officiating was straight out of he WWF's NBA's play book. I wanted them to just give the Colts the fucking touchdown so that the Texans would get the ball back with more time on the clock.
That said, the texans are 0-2 without Phillips on the sideline, 10-3 with. No coincidence in those numbers IMHO.
The NFL needed the Colts to win that game. No question.
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The NFL needed the Colts to win that game. No question.
It was so obvious that I'm mad at myself for watching the whole thing. Why not just award the win and give everyone the night off - it is Christmas...
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On the bright side, the Texans strength of victory number just went up...
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On second thought, I'm really glad I don't get the NFL network.
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Me too. That's it. The season is over. The Texans cannot win two playoff games on the road. Not winning this game cost them the rest of the season, yet dipshit Kubiak is completely oblivious, I'm sure. And next week, Kareem Jackson will be back on the field, and that dumbass will expect a different result.
Can we demote Kubiak and let Phillips be the coach after he comes back from his kidney stones?
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Play calling was horrible, but the officiating was straight out of he WWF's NBA's play book.
This.
And I'm getting tired of the new 'don't breathe on / scowl at the quarterback or we'll flag you' rule that I've seen this year...
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I'm still trying to fathom how the Texans were spotted 7 points by the worst team in football, who then beat them.
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Watch this: the stupid Patriots are going to lose just to make the Texans' loss that much more painful.
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Awesome. The Texans will face the Titans on New Year's Day, with the Titans needing a win to keep alive their playoff hopes.
If the Titans sneak in as the #6, does that mean they'll stay in Houston for the Wild Card game?
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Awesome. The Texans will face the Titans on New Year's Day, with the Titans needing a win to keep alive their playoff hopes.
If the Titans sneak in as the #6, does that mean they'll stay in Houston for the Wild Card game?
Edited: I take that back. Yes, it would mean the Titans play the Texans again in the Wild Card game the next weekend.
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No, it means that either Baltimore or Pittsburgh come to Houston.
Does the NFL have the rule that you can't play your own division in the first round?
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Does the NFL have the rule that you can't play your own division in the first round?
No. Brain fart on my part. The NFL has no such rule.
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No. Brain fart on my part. The NFL has no such rule.
I think we are witnessing a first ladies and gentleman.
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Does the NFL have the rule that you can't play your own division in the first round?
According to Wikipedia...no (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_playoffs).
There are no restrictions regarding teams from the same division matching up in any round.
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I think we are witnessing a first ladies and gentleman.
Discussing the Texans and the playoffs? Yes, yes we are.
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According to Wikipedia...no (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_playoffs).
The NFL used to have that rule, way back in the day when there was only one wild card. But changed it when they went to two, then three wild cards.
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I think we are witnessing a first ladies and gentleman.
So, for the Texans to reach the playoffs, Hell stayed nice and toasty but it did require HH's brain to freeze over.
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The NFL used to have that rule, way back in the day when there was only one wild card. But changed it when they went to two, then three wild cards.
...bringing up the gut-wrenching spectre of a thought that the Titans could beat the Texans twice, at home, in consecutive weeks, to ruin their season.
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The Titans are probably the best matchup, but can't say I love the idea of closing the regular season with 3 straight losses.
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The Titans are probably the best matchup, but can't say I love the idea of closing the regular season with 3 straight losses.
For the Titans to make it in, they need to beat the Texans and have BOTH the Bengals (home to the Ravens ) AND the Raiders (home to the Chargers) to lose. Those other two matchups aren't home locks, so Kubiak better have something more than "run middle" and "throw backwards" in his playbook on Sunday.
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Phillips was back with the team today, and will be coaching Sunday from the press box (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/12/wade-phillips-returns-and-he-is-furious-about-brian-cushing-pro-bowl-snub/). He's also pissed that Cushing, amongst others, got the green weenie from the Pro Bowl.
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Also, I cannot let slide this classic bit of dumbfuckery from the Chronicle's comments section. In response to an article explaining the permutations that will decide Houston's playoff opponent (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/12/who-will-the-texans-play-in-the-playoffs-we-rank-the-possibilities/), which includes the fact that the Titans must beat the Texans to make it into the playoffs in the first place, Curly from Port Arthur writes:
Hopefully the Titans get in,so the Texans can beat the team Bud Adams took from Houston!!!
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Curly from Port Arthur writes
Curly from Port Arthur. The deepest thinking this guy ever does is deciding whether he wants Dr Pepper or Sprite at the Big Gulp machine.
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What did Larry and Moe have to say?
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What did Larry and Moe have to say?
I believe they just smacked Curly upside the head.
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Missed the early play - is TJ hurt?
Also, Kubiak is a total and complete fuckwit. His play calling looks like he's trying to get his own players hurt. A called dump off in the flat to AJ? Why not just take a mallet to his bad hammies!
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Missed the early play - is TJ hurt?
Yes, but no one will say exactly how.
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Yes, but no one will say exactly how.
Is brainache contagious? Maybe he caught it from Kubiak.
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What a clusterfuck end to the regular season. May they pull their heads out for the post season.
Why the fuck is the Broncos-Chiefs on when there are two good teams with playoff implications playing? Tebow bullshit.
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Un fucking believable. I did not think it was even possible for Kubiak to get any stupider. Today he ascends to a whole new level of dumbshit, previously unimaginable.
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May they pull their heads out for the post season.
Good thing it's easy to just turn it on in the NFL, especially in the post season against good teams at their peek.
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Good thing it's easy to just turn it on in the NFL, especially in the post season against good teams at their peek.
So you're bothered by carrying a three game losing streak against shit teams into the playoffs? Pessimist.
I am certainly glad I did not pay hundreds of dollars to watch this glorified preaseason dogshit today, and I am certainly glad that I am not going to pay hundreds more to watch the team get assraped next weekend.
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Barring two comebacks, looks like it will be Cincy
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Barring two comebacks, looks like it will be Cincy
Huh? Cincy losing which, if that's how it ends, lets the Titans in.
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Cincy losing doesn't get titans in - both denver and oak have to win as well
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I think the deal is trhat cincy wins the two team tiebreaker against Tenn but loses the 3 team with Oak and Tenn - the titans have to get to that 3 way tie to make it which requires cincy loss and oak and den win
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Cincy for sure - here we go
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Cincy for sure - here we go
Andy Dalton will be dreaming about Kareem Jackson.
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Andy Dalton will be dreaming about Kareem Jackson.
Me too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpXEfK-9s8w
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Texans 3 pt favorites
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Texans 3 pt favorites
By the time you get to Phoenix I'll be rising.
Say, does anyone know what's going on in that Cowboys game?
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Got in Phoenix yesterday - watched the Texan's latest improbable loss on my ipad by the pool.
Skipped the cowboys to take my wife to dinner (left the boy with the folks) - hopefully the Cowboys lose as a good omen for tomorrow.
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Got in Phoenix yesterday - watched the Texan's latest improbable loss on my ipad by the pool.
Skipped the cowboys to take my wife to dinner (left the boy with the folks) - hopefully the Cowboys lose as a good omen for tomorrow.
Your DirecTV subscription has an iPad app? I remember some sort of conversation about this from a month ago or so.
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The Cowboys are getting their asses handed to them. Am I surprised? Not really. Sporadic may be able to find something positive from this game. But right now, 12 wet noodles could beat this team.
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Got in Phoenix yesterday - watched the Texan's latest improbable loss on my ipad by the pool.
Skipped the cowboys to take my wife to dinner (left the boy with the folks) - hopefully the Cowboys lose as a good omen for tomorrow.
You went to Binkley's, didn't you?
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Sunday ticket to go is an add-on to the regular sunday ticket - normally its 50 a month extra, but they will throw it in on top of whatever other discount they give if you call and threaten to cancel.
You can watch on the computer or there is an iPad app - it works great, HD streaming with no hiccups. Used it a lot this year when I was out in bay area for Stanford games.
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Nah, more low key. BLT Steak in the hotel for dinner last night (with the family, had a big crew come out), then Cowboy Ciao tonight.
Headed back to Chicago in a couple weeks, definitely not missing the goat this time.
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The Cowboys are getting their asses handed to them. Am I surprised? Not really. Sporadic may be able to find something positive from this game. But right now, 12 wet noodles could beat this team.
At least the last game mattered this year. The boys are ok at QB and WR, they need depth everywhere else. Brooking and James cannot cover anyone (neither can anyone in the secondary not named Michael Jenkins) and they can upgrade every lineman sans Tyron Smith. A good draft could yield a 12-4 type season next year (along with luck on the injury front).
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At least the last game mattered this year. The boys are ok at QB and WR, they need depth everywhere else. Brooking and James cannot cover anyone (neither can anyone in the secondary not named Michael Jenkins) and they can upgrade every lineman sans Tyron Smith. A good draft could yield a 12-4 type season next year (along with luck on the injury front).
Everything you just wrote (CB/OL) was known exiting last season. Why do you expect them to do any better?
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Everything you just wrote (CB/OL) was known exiting last season. Why do you expect them to do any better?
They drafted 2 OL, OLB, RB, CB last year, and I never claimed they would win the super bowl. The OLB got injured in camp. I would go on in more depth but you were just being a cock smoke with your remark anyway, so I am not going to bother. Oh, and fuck off
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You're awfully pretty when you're angry. Or your bride is, anyway.
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You're awfully pretty when you're angry. Or your bride is, anyway.
that is exactly why I keep her all riled up!
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I think the deal is trhat cincy wins the two team tiebreaker against Tenn but loses the 3 team with Oak and Tenn - the titans have to get to that 3 way tie to make it which requires cincy loss and oak and den win
CBS confused me by showing CIN/TEN in a graphic as the potential opponents for the Texans after the Jets lost but before the Cincy game. I guess the permutations were still too many to show in full at that point. I assumed that a Cincy loss put the Titans in, but I'm glad it didn't matter in the end.
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CBS confused me by showing CIN/TEN in a graphic as the potential opponents for the Texans after the Jets lost but before the Cincy game. I guess the permutations were still too many to show in full at that point. I assumed that a Cincy loss put the Titans in, but I'm glad it didn't matter in the end.
CIN/TEN were the only options after the Jets loss. OAK could not be a wild card. But in order for TEN to make it, CIN had to lose and OAK and DEN had to win. Any other combination put the Bengals in.
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AT&T sucks in this stadium.
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That was fucking awesome!
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Hole. Lee. Shit. That was an amazing pick six by Watt.
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AT&T sucks in this stadium.
Ya think?
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Nice! Go Texans!
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WOOHOO!!!!!
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Pretty fucking cool!
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So you're bothered by carrying a three game losing streak against shit teams into the playoffs? Pessimist.
I am certainly glad I did not pay hundreds of dollars to watch this glorified preaseason dogshit today, and I am certainly glad that I am not going to pay hundreds more to watch the team get assraped next weekend.
I won't bring this post up.
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I won't bring this post up.
Believe it or not I'll be wrong again.
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Texans now have same number of playoff wins as Cowboys in last 15 years
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Texans now have same number of playoff wins as Cowboys in last 15 years
And the point of that is what? Enjoy the win, don't be an ass.
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Texans now have same number of playoff wins as Cowboys in last 15 years
And the Texans' playoff hopes in those first five years were at best remote.
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I'm not a really a jersey wearing guy but if I were to get a Texans jersey it would be number 23.
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I'm not a really a jersey wearing guy but if I were to get a Texans jersey it would be number 23.
I have a blue jersey with the number 32 and the name "Houston" on the back. It's the first jersey that came out, in honor of them being the the 32nd team, before there were any players. I wore it to the first game ever, that shitstomping of the scum from Dallas, and again last night. It's a magical jersey.
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I would probably get a jersey honoring the best player on the team so I guess mine would be 99.
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I would probably get a jersey honoring the best player on the team so I guess mine would be 99.
Lots of game balls to go around last night. Of course Watt was spectacular, but also on the defensive side both Antonio Smith and Jonathan Joseph had outstanding games. I was particularly impressed with Joseph, and even pointed out during the game how he was always in good covereage position (as opposed to Kareem Jackson who is alway beat and chasing the receiver). The more I watch Joseph, the more credit I think he deserves.
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Lots of game balls to go around last night. Of course Watt was spectacular, but also on the defensive side both Antonio Smith and Jonathan Joseph had outstanding games. I was particularly impressed with Joseph, and even pointed out during the game how he was always in good covereage position (as opposed to Kareem Jackson who is alway beat and chasing the receiver). The more I watch Joseph, the more credit I think he deserves.
Absolutely. A lot of the credit for the defense's turnaround goes (justifiably) to Wade but we should not overlook that half the secondary is new and that the new half is very good. That, Watt, Barwin and a new attitude on defense will buy you a January trip to Baltimore.
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I'm not a really a jersey wearing guy but if I were to get a Texans jersey it would be number 23.
My Watt jersey is on order.
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Man, yesterday was great. A win Sunday would be epic.
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Get with the program guys. No football discussion is allowed without the appropriate amount of Tebow-worship.
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I would probably get a jersey honoring the best player on the team so I guess mine would be 99.
56 for me.
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I would probably get a jersey honoring the best player on the team so I guess mine would be 99.
I have three shirts: red, white and blue, two are Ryans and one is Daniels. Chosen purely based on the available sizes at Academy.
I wore blue (Daniels) Saturday to match the team, and will wear it again this coming Sunday. No, it won't be washed.
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I have a blue jersey with the number 32 and the name "Houston" on the back. It's the first jersey that came out, in honor of them being the the 32nd team, before there were any players. I wore it to the first game ever, that shitstomping of the scum from Dallas, and again last night. It's a magical jersey.
I still wear my "02" jersey from the same time.
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I was particularly impressed with Joseph, and even pointed out during the game how he was always in good covereage position (as opposed to Kareem Jackson who is alway beat and chasing the receiver). The more I watch Joseph, the more credit I think he deserves.
Rick Smith deserves a lot of credit for eschewing Ndamdi and going right after Joseph.
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Absolutely. A lot of the credit for the defense's turnaround goes (justifiably) to Wade but we should not overlook that half the secondary is new and that the new half is very good. That, Watt, Barwin and a new attitude on defense will buy you a January trip to Baltimore.
Don't forget Brooks Reid. Not only has he been very good this year, he fulfills the league's Fabio-hair quota for the Texans.
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Don't forget Brooks Reid. Not only has he been very good this year, he fulfills the league's Fabio-hair quota for the Texans.
Reed is the guy who always runs to where a play has just been made.
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Reed is the guy who always runs to where a play has just been made.
Is that who that is? I keep trying to read his name on his jersey.
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Is that who that is? I keep trying to read his name on his jersey.
The long hair makes it look like he actually did something while also obscuring his name.
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Reed is the guy who always runs to where a play has just been made.
Reed got the sack that pushed the Bengals back far enough to miss a field goal.
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Reed got the sack that pushed the Bengals back far enough to miss a field goal.
After Antonio Smith made the play.
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After Antonio Smith made the play.
Smith flushed Dalton, but if Reed doesn't make the sack then Dalton throws the ball away and the Bengals retain their good field position for the kick.
Perhaps a better discussion topic for now should be about how this defense will be next year once Phillips becomes the Bucc's head coach.
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Perhaps a better discussion topic for now should be about how this defense will be next year once Phillips becomes the Bucc's head coach.
Not happening. They're getting Sherman.
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Not happening. They're getting Sherman.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ah ha
whew.
#relievedaggie
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Get with the program guys. No football discussion is allowed without the appropriate amount of Tebow-worship.
You mock, but being at the game yesterday was an amazing experience.
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You mock, but being at the game yesterday was an amazing experience.
As was watching the Texans' rookie quarterback lead his team to a win on Saturday.
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From the UK's Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/jan/10/tebow-time-tim-drew-brees-punts):
Were it not for the ridiculousness that is Tim Tebow, the standout play of wildcard weekend would surely have been the outrageous pick six from Texans rookie JJ Watt late in the first half against Cincinnati.
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After Antonio Smith made the play.
I love Antonio Smith's sword-pulling sack celebration.
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I love Antonio Smith's sword-pulling sack celebration.
NTTAWWT
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From the UK's Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/jan/10/tebow-time-tim-drew-brees-punts):
The Guardian is wrong. Any quarterback in the league... ANY of them... throwing a OT touchdown in a NFL playoff game will win the highlight of the day. That has nothing to do with Tebow. The only people who can't stand the hype that is Tebow is the one who continue to obsess about it.
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The Guardian is wrong. Any quarterback in the league... ANY of them... throwing a OT touchdown in a NFL playoff game will win the highlight of the day. That has nothing to do with Tebow. The only people who can't stand the hype that is Tebow is the one who continue to obsess about it.
When my son walked in while I was watching the game, he asked who I was rooting for.
First answer: I don't care, it should be an interesting game.
I saw Roethlesberger.
Second answer, 3 seconds after the first: The second coming of Christ over The Rapist.
God isn't choosing winners in a football game, maybe, but I liked how that turned out.
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I got the holy-hype...and I got the Gator fans. It's more than enough to want to see the guy spontaneously combust.
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Get with the program guys. No football discussion is allowed without the appropriate amount of Tebow-worship.
I can see a new horizon
Underneath the blazin' sky
I'll be where the eagle's
Flyin' higher and higher
Gonna be a man in motion
All I needs my Broncos team
Take me where my future's lyin'
Tim Tebows Fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIQWzW1MIc&feature=player_embedded)
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As seen over Baltimore, MD this week (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397354_2719081689655_1035391549_32736544_853519704_n.jpg).
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As seen over Baltimore, MD this week (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397354_2719081689655_1035391549_32736544_853519704_n.jpg).
"They are coming..."
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Are there an other games besides the one Tim Tebow is playing in this weekend?
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Are there an other games besides the one Tim Tebow is playing in this weekend?
Of course not, you infidel.
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I got tired of Tebow back in his college days, not gonna say anything about Tebow. ... Dammit...
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According to my boss, the pundits have gone 100% for the Ravens. Some picked even picked the Giants over the Packers, despite the Packers having a line that's +13.5 and the Ravens only being +7.5.
[Dangerfield] I can't get no respect. [/Dangerfield]
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If Arian can just do his thing, I think this game goes down to the wire.
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If Arian can just do his thing, I think this game goes down to the wire.
Texans need to play from the front. I don't think they're going to be able to chase down the Ravens if they get ahead.
My earlier point was that some pundits will take a flyer on the Giants over the +13.5 Packers, but no one would take a flyer on the Texans. I actually kind of like this.
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The Giants seem to be getting better and better each week, much to my disgust.
I think the Texans/Ravens are a close game.
Texans and Giants in the SuperBowl.
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The Giants seem to be getting better and better each week, much to my disgust.
I think the Texans/Ravens are a close game.
Texans and Giants in the SuperBowl.
The O/U is 38.5. I think I would go with the under.
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The O/U is 38.5. I think I would go with the under.
I don't understand all that O/U crap. I go by my woman's intuition.
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Texans need to play from the front. I don't think they're going to be able to chase down the Ravens if they get ahead.
If the Texans can avoid turnovers, I find it hard to imagine a Flacco-led team ever getting very far ahead. Stop Rice and make Flacco throw.
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I don't understand all that O/U crap. I go by my woman's intuition.
It's going to be a tight, low scoring game.
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If the Texans can avoid turnovers, I find it hard to imagine a Flacco-led team ever getting very far ahead. Stop Rice and make Flacco throw.
They did that in the game earlier this season (for three quarters, at least) and Boldin torched them.
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They did that in the game earlier this season (for three quarters, at least) and Boldin torched them.
Will Joseph get torched twice by the same guy? I'd like to think not.
Keep it close and Flacco will fuck up before Yates does.
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They did that in the game earlier this season (for three quarters, at least) and Boldin torched them.
Refs had a hand with a huuuuge non-call on a helmet-to-helmet tackle on Schaub that (effectively) killed a very promising Texans drive when they were down by only 5 (IIRC). Of course, we should not expect any favours from the refs given how they seem to be calling the Texans this year - especially on the road. Typical luck to get good a defense just in time for the league to outlaw defense.
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Meanwhile, the Onion takes on Tebow and the delicate subject of Athletes and Religion (http://www.theonion.com/articles/athletes-and-religion,27033/).
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Will Joseph get torched twice by the same guy? I'd like to think not.
Keep it close and Flacco will fuck up before Yates does.
I'd like to think you're right, but it's the "keep it close" part that bothers me. Maybe the first half the saints played took care of the "dick stomping" for everyone this weekend, in which case you just might have nailed it.
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What a dumbass. Jones is an idiot.
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Jacoby Jones: Moron.
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One dick: stomped.
Here's hoping being a fuck-up isn't contagious today.
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How stupid are you, Jacoby?
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Well, I just turned on the game, so I missed whatever stupid thing Jones did. But I knew I had the right game when the second play I saw involved #25 chasing after Boldin.
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Brutal. While watching the defense play is enjoyable, I wish they didn't have to play the entire game.
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The offense needs to get some first downs. Otherwise, this could be a very fast game.
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Arian Foster is pretty good.
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Great blocks today. Need a big defensive stop before yhere half.
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That catch was ridiculous.
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Boldin or foster?
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if Kareem Jackson and Jacoby Jones were not on this team, my bp would be 15 pts lower.
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Boldin or foster?
The comment was about Boldin. But both.
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That was a much better quarter. I hope Kubiak has some wrinkles for the offense in the second half.
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That was a much better quarter. I hope Kubiak has some wrinkles for the offense in the second half.
I hope the wrinkle is to get the ball to the guy wearing number 23.
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I hope the wrinkle is to get the ball to the guy wearing number 23.
If not, the wrinkles will be from arched eyebrows.
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Ravens are going to bring more to stop the run. Good catches will keep the ravens off the line to stop the run. Yates better be ready, I bet they step up the pressure.
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It's a good thing that Brooks was the third person in on that play. His energy (and hair) is commendable.
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Goodness gracious Jones sucks.
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Goodness gracious Jones sucks.
Agreed - why isn't he on the cowboys?
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Agreed - why isn't he on the cowboys?
I guess even the cowboys can recognize he sucks.
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Somewhere out there in America there's a WR/KR who's going to be drafted in the 6th round and make this team next year wearing #12.
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J.J. Watt is pretty good.
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Kareem Jackson can't win for trying.
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The Ravens have had three fumbles that they haven't lost.
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Wow a wall. That was big. I love a good goal line stand.
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The Ravens have had three fumbles that they haven't lost.
It seems like every play that has involved luck has broken Baltimore's way, that bouncing fumble being the latest example.
I doubt that the Texans are going to win, but I'm proud of the effort they're giving.
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The Texans D has been fantastic. Amazing the difference from the last all seasons.
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JJ Watt is a Bad Motherfucker.
And, while I like to give him grief, Reed is having a very good game.
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I have a hard time believing there isn't anybody else on the team they could put back to field punts. Jacoby is fucking awful.
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Jacoby with a fumble recovery! It's like ten thousand spoons...
And, fuck.
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It's like ten thousand spoons...
I hate you.
Defense has done its part. C'mon TJ!
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Damn, TJ. That's just stupid.
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you've had two long completions - why not run the ball?
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Well, that was brilliant.
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Why did Walter not fucking catch that? Every WR the team has other than AJ is fucking useless.
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I haven't watched these guys for most of the season but I image the last 10 minutes of this game is what y'all would call "dick-stepping."
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Why not go for the first down? There was time yet.
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Damn, TJ. That's just stupid.
They were really hurting them with the slants and crossing patterns. I don't understand going for the deep pattern, especially with Reed lurking back there.
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They were really hurting them with the slants and crossing patterns. I don't understand going for the deep pattern, especially with Reed lurking back there.
Twice.
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Why not go for the first down? There was time yet.
Because it was Kubiak. His performance in the 4th quarte is inexcusable. Atrocious play calling. This game was there for the taking. All they had to do was not monumentally fuck up. Kubiak made sure they did. He is an embarassment to the game of football.
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Because it was Kubiak. His performance in the 4th quarte is inexcusable. Atrocious play calling. This game was there for the taking. All they had to do was not monumentally fuck up. Kubiak made sure they did. He is an embarassment to the game of football.
Yep, and his "success" will guarantee that he keeps his job for the foreseeable future.
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The Texans D has been fantastic.
What a fucking waste.
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What a fucking waste.
Gary Kubiak is going to destroy the largest collection of talent we're likely to see in our lifetimes.
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Gary Kubiak is going to destroy the largest collection of talent we're likely to see in our lifetimes.
this.
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Gary Kubiak is going to destroy the largest collection of talent we're likely to see in our lifetimes.
Maybe Wade Phillips goes all Buddy Ryan on his ass and pops him in the jaw.
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Yeah but who the fuck in the NFL fumbles a punt like that?
I know the head coach ain't going nowhere but I hope I never see Jones or Jackson wearing a Texans uniform again.
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Yeah but who the fuck in the NFL fumbles a punt like that?
I know the head coach ain't going nowhere but I hope I never see Jones or Jackson wearing a Texans uniform again.
If the Texans had played with 10 men on punt returns, they win this game.
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The Texans' #1 priority for the off-season had better be keeping Phillips around. Priority #2 is self-evident.
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Yeah but who the fuck in the NFL fumbles a punt like that?
The fact that they kept sending him out there speaks volumes about this "coaching" staff.
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Yeah but who the fuck in the NFL fumbles a punt like that?
I know the head coach ain't going nowhere but I hope I never see Jones or Jackson wearing a Texans uniform again.
Yates stepped on his dick today. But he's a rookie, and frankly I'm surprised how little he has in his 7 games. But Jones is in his fifth year in the league, and he's still making rookie mistakes. He's not any smarter about playing in the NFL than he was five years ago, and he's shown absolutely no improvement in running routes, getting open, or catching a thrown football. He is a complete and total waste of a roster space.
Jones cannot get open against a single NFL defender, and Kareem Jackson cannot defend a single NFL receiver. If you have two players at those positions who are just in the bottom quarter in the league (as opposed to the single worst), this is a Super Bowl caliber team. The amount of talent in the rest of this team is staggering. It's historic, dynastic...any other superlative you want to use. Replace those two guys with just mediocre talent, and with your QB back, the Texans have the talent to go undefeated in this league. I'm not kidding. Hopefully Kubiak can "coach" his undefeated talent to another 10 wins next year.
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Yates stepped on his dick today. But he's a rookie, and frankly I'm surprised how little he has in his 7 games. But Jones is in his fifth year in the league, and he's still making rookie mistakes. He's not any smarter about playing in the NFL than he was five years ago, and he's shown absolutely no improvement in running routes, getting open, or catching a thrown football. He is a complete and total waste of a roster space.
Jones cannot get open against a single NFL defender, and Kareem Jackson cannot defend a single NFL receiver. If you have two players at those positions who are just in the bottom quarter in the league (as opposed to the single worst), this is a Super Bowl caliber team. The amount of talent in the rest of this team is staggering. It's historic, dynastic...any other superlative you want to use. Replace those two guys with just mediocre talent, and with your QB back, the Texans have the talent to go undefeated in this league. I'm not kidding. Hopefully Kubiak can "coach" his undefeated talent to another 10 wins next year.
I have to give the Ravens credit that whenever Jackson set foot on the field, they went after him. EVERY. TIME. Jacoby is Jacoby. I can't understand how he still has a roster spot.
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I have to give the Ravens credit that whenever Jackson set foot on the field, they went after him. EVERY. TIME. Jacoby is Jacoby. I can't understand how he still has a roster spot.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jones doesn't have a spot on the plane back to Houston.
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Jackson didn't play that poorly today. It took a couple of great throw and catches. He has a ways to go, but he got better throughout the year.
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The Giants seem to be getting better and better each week, much to my disgust.
I think the Texans/Ravens are a close game.
Texans and Giants in the SuperBowl.
Well, I was not completely wrong, so far. I'm kind of excited to see the 49ers tackle the Giants because the Packers don't, they also don't hold onto the ball.
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Jackson didn't play that poorly today. It took a couple of great throw and catches. He has a ways to go, but he got better throughout the year.
If he got better, it didn't help. He was beat on every single play today. Every. Single. One. In fact, there has not been a pass play in the last two years when he wasn't beat. If they throw at him and it's not complete, it's because the offense fucked up, not his defense. He simply cannot defend receivers at the NFL level. He is pointless on the field.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Jones doesn't have a spot on the plane back to Houston.
He's a five year NFL veteran making mental mistakes that you stop making in high school.
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If he got better, it didn't help. He was beat on every single play today. Every. Single. One. In fact, there has not been a pass play in the last two years when he wasn't beat. If they throw at him and it's not complete, it's because the offense fucked up, not his defense. He simply cannot defend receivers at the NFL level. He is pointless on the field.
That's an exaggeration. He didn't get beat every play.
It used to be that there was always daylight between him and the receiver. Lately, the daylight is gone, but he still doesn't turn in time to make a play. His blame in today's defeat should be minimal.
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That's an exaggeration. He didn't get beat every play.
It used to be that there was always daylight between him and the receiver. Lately, the daylight is gone, but he still doesn't turn in time to make a play. His blame in today's defeat should be minimal.
His blame is minimal today because they managed to get some pressure on Flacco. But he's still terrible and is beat every single play. Daylight or not, good throws and catches or not. It's the NFL...NFL quarterbacks can make those throws. NFL receivers can make those catches. Kareem Jackson cannot play CB in the NFL. Not even a little.
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He's a five year NFL veteran making mental mistakes that you stop making in high school.
Why can't Manning return punts?
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Late to the party, but I'm a Texans fan now. I've got people who can take care of #12, so let me know on that.
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Late to the party, but I'm a Texans fan now. I've got people who can take care of #12, so let me know on that.
PM me with a price to get this done...
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Question on the Ed Reed INT towards the end of the game:
He intercepted the pass on the 4-ish yardline and then backpedaled into the endzone - why isn't this a safety? Momentum?
I have no doubt the officials called it correctly, I'm just curious.
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Question on the Ed Reed INT towards the end of the game:
He intercepted the pass on the 4-ish yardline and then backpedaled into the endzone - why isn't this a safety? Momentum?
I have no doubt the officials called it correctly, I'm just curious.
A quick Google search for NFL rules (http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/safety2) reveals:
Safety
The important factor in a safety is impetus. Two points are scored for the opposing team when the ball is dead on or behind a team’s own goal line if the impetus came from a player on that team.
Examples of Safety:
(a) Blocked punt goes out of kicking team’s end zone. Impetus was provided by punting team. The block only changes direction of ball, not impetus.
(b) Ball carrier retreats from field of play into his own end zone and is downed. Ball carrier provides impetus.
(c) Offensive team commits a foul and spot of enforcement is behind its own goal line.
(d) Player on receiving team muffs punt and, trying to get ball, forces or illegally kicks (creating new impetus) it into end zone where it goes out of the end zone or is recovered by a member of the receiving team in the end zone.
Examples of Non-Safety:
(a) Player intercepts a pass with both feet inbounds in the field of play and his momentum carries him into his own end zone. Ball is put in play at spot of interception.
(b) Player intercepts a pass in his own end zone and is downed in the end zone, even after recovering in the end zone. Impetus came from passing team, not from defense. (Touchback)
(c) Player passes from behind his own goal line. Opponent bats down ball in end zone. (Incomplete pass)
The bigger question in my mind is why, when there was plenty of time on the clock, was TJ heaving it for the endzone instead of going for the short 1st down yards and then having options (IIRC, Kubiak called for deep passes on 3rd down before the 4th down INT).
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The bigger question in my mind is why, when there was plenty of time on the clock, was TJ heaving it for the endzone instead of going for the short 1st down yards and then having options (IIRC, Kubiak called for deep passes on 3rd down before the 4th down INT).
The Hail Mary was called with 11 seconds left. I think Kubiak's reasoning was that the first down play would be <10 yards, and would have to get out of bounds; therefore, might as well go for the whole thing in one shot.
My disappointment was that Walter never turned around for the ball.
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A quick Google search for NFL rules (http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/safety2) reveals:
The bigger question in my mind is why, when there was plenty of time on the clock, was TJ heaving it for the endzone instead of going for the short 1st down yards and then having options (IIRC, Kubiak called for deep passes on 3rd down before the 4th down INT).
Thanks. And I agree with your last point.
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The Hail Mary was called with 11 seconds left. I think Kubiak's reasoning was that the first down play would be <10 yards, and would have to get out of bounds; therefore, might as well go for the whole thing in one shot.
My disappointment was that Walter never turned around for the ball.
There was definitely a sequence near the end where Kubiak called for, essentially, a hail mary when there was time and downs to play with. I think half the time he was trying to out-double-think the Ravens (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Ue0SOTwpA&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL5884A98EACB7A226), and ended up only stomping full force on his own penis.
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There was definitely a sequence near the end where Kubiak called for, essentially, a hail mary when there was time and downs to play with. I think half the time he was trying to out-double-think the Ravens (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Ue0SOTwpA&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL5884A98EACB7A226), and ended up only stomping full force on his own penis.
When you have an aggie trying to outhink someone, you are fucked.
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The Hail Mary was called with 11 seconds left. I think Kubiak's reasoning was that the first down play would be <10 yards, and would have to get out of bounds; therefore, might as well go for the whole thing in one shot.
The play ended with 11 seconds left. The ball was snapped with 20 seconds left. Plenty of time to run another play, even if the player stays in bounds. My biggest gripe was the bomb on first down coming out of the 2:00 warning when they were on the Ravens' 38 yard line and two timeouts.
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My disappointment was that Walter never turned around for the ball.
That was a tad infuriating (says Limey while gathering up shards of furniture). Also, TJ's interceptions, IMHO, were mostly on Kubiak's play calling or receiver failure (e.g. AJ running behind the corner on an up 'n' out...WTF?). There was one long pass where you could see TJ looking left, then he turned to the right sideline and heaved a long INT. I don't know if he was checking down to his second option, or if the initial left focus was to fake out the defense.
Regardless, in the end, the Ravens recovered all three of their fumbles and the Texans lost the ball at very damaging locations. Also, they missed a field goal and a shanked punt. Special teams really lived up to the other definition of "special" this day.
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The play ended with 11 seconds left. The ball was snapped with 20 seconds left. Plenty of time to run another play, even if the player stays in bounds. My biggest gripe was the bomb on first down coming out of the 2:00 warning when they were on the Ravens' 38 yard line and two timeouts.
Bingo!
Thanks. I was down about 5 frozen ritas with a beer sticking out of each by that point. I knew there was a "bet they won't be expecting this!" call towards the end, which they were totally ready for.
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Checked the PBP (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20120115033&page=plays). That sequence went like this:
1st-10, HOU28 2:44 T. Yates passed to A. Johnson to the left for 18 yard gain
1st-10, HOU46 2:17 T. Yates passed to A. Johnson down the middle for 16 yard gain
1st-10, BAL38 1:51 E. Reed intercepted T. Yates for no gain
The final possession went like this:
1st-10, HOU48 0:45 T. Yates passed to O. Daniels to the left for 9 yard gain
2nd-1, BAL43 0:28 T. Yates incomplete pass to the right
3rd-1, BAL43 0:24 T. Yates incomplete pass to the left
4th-1, BAL43 0:11 T. Yates incomplete pass to the right
The play calling around the two-minute warning was ridiculous, but the final sequence was just dumb. Facing 3rd & 1 with 28 seconds on the clock, he chose to try for the TD, and missed it, forcing the TD try on 4th down. Had they got the 1 yard they needed (after the pass on 1st down), they would have had 4 goes at the TD, and Yates would have had the option to luzz the ball into the stands on the first 3. Again, Kubiak channelling Klein.
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Why can't Manning return punts?
I was wondering this, too.
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Fun season. Frustrating game, but looking at the big picture we all saw this coming when Schaub came out. I think the Texans have to be one of the few favorites to win the AFC next year.
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Fun season. Frustrating game, but looking at the big picture we all saw this coming when Schaub came out. I think the Texans have to be one of the few favorites to win the AFC next year.
I hope Schaub can come back from that injury. He could be hobbled for a long time.
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Fun season. Frustrating game, but looking at the big picture we all saw this coming when Schaub came out. I think the Texans have to be one of the few favorites to win the AFC next year.
I never saw second round of the playoffs when Schaub went down.
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I never saw second round of the playoffs when Schaub went down.
I didn't either. Then Leinart went down and their chances improved.
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I didn't either. Then Leinart went down and their chances improved.
Zingggggg!
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I didn't either. Then Leinart went down and their chances improved.
Run the ball, play good defense. It would have been hard for Leinart to screw that up. Post Leinart, if the Texans hadn't blown 3 very winnable games at the end of the season (and 1 pre-Leinart against the Raiders early) they'd have been playing at home and preparing for a home game today.
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Who knows what would've happened with Leinart. It's hard to imagine anything worse than what Yates did on Sunday.
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Run the ball, play good defense. It would have been hard for Leinart to screw that up. Post Leinart, if the Texans hadn't blown 3 very winnable games at the end of the season (and 1 pre-Leinart against the Raiders early) they'd have been playing at home and preparing for a home game today.
THIS.
No way they lose to that Ravens team at home. They were +4 on turnovers and won by only 7 points.
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Run the ball, play good defense. It would have been hard for Leinart to screw that up. Post Leinart, if the Texans hadn't blown 3 very winnable games at the end of the season (and 1 pre-Leinart against the Raiders early) they'd have been playing at home and preparing for a home game today.
I am not a fan of Leinart. Not at all. I think Yates was better than Leinart, and it was certainly possible that they miss the playoffs completely with Leinart. We'll never but that sums up my opinion of Leinart.
I agree with you about playing at home. I never thought, like so many, that those games were meaningless. They likely cost the Texans a place in the Super Bowl.
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I agree with you about playing at home. I never thought, like so many, that those games were meaningless. They likely cost the Texans a place in the Super Bowl.
I am confused. I thought that games once you'd made the playoffs are irrelevant. You know, like baseball games in April and May.