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Title: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: Gizzmonic on March 24, 2011, 12:23:38 pm
Barmes reaches on E6, Michaels promptly doubles him home, 1-0 Stros, bottom 1st.
Title: Re: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: Gizzmonic on March 24, 2011, 12:27:43 pm
Wallace drives home Michaels with another base hit. 2-0 Astros, 2 away, bottom 1st.
Title: Re: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: pots on March 24, 2011, 01:39:48 pm
ugh, Lee's spring stats seem are very similar in ratio to last year's numbers.  < 300 OBP and ~4 HR per 100 ABs.   Is there any reason to think he can bounce back? 
Title: Re: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: BatGirl on March 24, 2011, 02:31:28 pm
towles solo HR
braves 6
astros 3
end 7
Title: Re: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: moriartp on March 24, 2011, 03:00:53 pm
Not a good outing for Abad. Single, double, groundout, homer to start the 9th. Did come back and get the next two, though.
Title: Re: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: austro on March 24, 2011, 03:10:21 pm
Not a good outing for Abad. Single, double, groundout, homer to start the 9th. Did come back and get the next two, though.

Damn. Triple short of a cycle.
Title: Re: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: Limey on March 24, 2011, 04:06:07 pm
Norris' spring ERA now at 6.75 (just a shade behind Wandy, FWIW).  He might be pitching while looking over his shoulder at Lyles.

I've been unconvinced by Norris for some time (http://www.spikesnstars.com/2010/08/16/mets-at-astros-i-see-your-schwartz-is-as-big-as-mine/), so I hope we don't have to endure another one of the his 5+ ERA efforts in 2011 too.
Title: Re: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: jbm on March 24, 2011, 04:49:44 pm
Going off spring stats, almost everyone should look over their shoulder, but I get the point about Norris.

I only saw the Cards outing where he showed his usual Cards dominance.  My prediction is that he will be like last year: both dominant and crappy.  He's still young enough that the occasional dominance will keep him on this staff, but he hasn't progressed much with either his fastball location or his change.  That reliever option looks more likely to me as time goes by. 
Title: Re: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 24, 2011, 05:30:34 pm
Norris' spring ERA now at 6.75 (just a shade behind Wandy, FWIW).  He might be pitching while looking over his shoulder at Lyles.

I've been unconvinced by Norris for some time (http://www.spikesnstars.com/2010/08/16/mets-at-astros-i-see-your-schwartz-is-as-big-as-mine/), so I hope we don't have to endure another one of the his 5+ ERA efforts in 2011 too.

I've said this before about Norris, but it bears repeating: to me, he looks like a bullpen guy who should be allowed to throw his heater hard for an inning. FWIW, Brian Wilson was similar as a starter in college and in the minors, but the Giants had the good sense to convert him. No one really cares what I think (just ask Bench or Coach), but I said the same thing about Paulino and Dotel. Neither Norris nor Paulino could consistently go into the sixth inning and crap out alot after five, which murders your bullpen. I notice that the Rox have already converted Paulino to the bully, where I hope that he has success because he's got plus plus stuff in my opinion.
Title: Re: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: Ron Brand on March 24, 2011, 05:35:25 pm
They're gonna make him prove it first, since 200 innings beats 60-75.
Title: Re: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 24, 2011, 08:06:05 pm
They're gonna make him prove it first, since 200 innings beats 60-75.

RB, I absolutely agree. However, one must factor in the potential damage of overworking a couple of guys so that Norris can prove himself.
Title: Re: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: Ron Brand on March 24, 2011, 08:12:05 pm
Y'know, even if he doesn't make it as a starter this staff in 2012 could be pretty salty. Myers, The Enigma of Wandy, Happ, Lyles and #5 To Be Named is a pretty good staff with a nice age balance and the relievers, with Norris in there adding to Melancon, Villar, Fulchino, Lopez etc. could really be strong.
Title: Re: strosrays Mar 24 2011
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 24, 2011, 08:44:51 pm
Y'know, even if he doesn't make it as a starter this staff in 2012 could be pretty salty. Myers, The Enigma of Wandy, Happ, Lyles and #5 To Be Named is a pretty good staff with a nice age balance and the relievers, with Norris in there adding to Melancon, Villar, Fulchino, Lopez etc. could really be strong.

I think that it what Wade/Smith is hoping for.