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Title: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Ebby Calvin on January 04, 2011, 10:41:47 am
Per Recruitocosm (http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2011/01/04/things-are-taking-shape-chryst-bostad-onboard-dc-dl-in-the-hopper/) (thanks to whomever on this site introduced me to it).

Looks to be Chryst as OC and Bostad as OL, both from Wisconsin.
Wyatt from Kansas (announced yesterday) as WR coach.
Bo Davis from Bama as DL coach, maybe S&C.
And Fangio from Stanford as DC.

Only Wyatt has been confirmed, but it sounds like a lot is going down today.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Ron Brand on January 04, 2011, 10:46:22 am
Manny Diaz has landed in Austin and had already been contacted by UT. Tons of smoke around this one for the DC hire.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: MusicMan on January 04, 2011, 10:53:07 am
Per Recruitocosm (http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2011/01/04/things-are-taking-shape-chryst-bostad-onboard-dc-dl-in-the-hopper/) (thanks to whomever on this site introduced me to it).

Looks to be Chryst as OC and Bostad as OL, both from Wisconsin.
Wyatt from Kansas (announced yesterday) as WR coach.
Bo Davis from Bama as DL coach, maybe S&C.
And Fangio from Stanford as DC.

Only Wyatt has been confirmed, but it sounds like a lot is going down today.

Last night made me feel a lot better about the Fangio hire.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: BizidyDizidy on January 04, 2011, 11:05:40 am
Why would fangio leave before the luck/harbaugh national championship run next year?
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Ron Brand on January 04, 2011, 11:08:12 am
From another UT-related site:

Quote
Guys, just got off the phone with a coaching friend of Diaz's.

"If he has stepped foot on campus, then he's taking that job."

Doesn't sound like it's Fangio just yet.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: chuck on January 04, 2011, 11:09:53 am
Vic Fangio as DC? Maybe they'll hire Chris Palmer as OC and really get the band back together.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Ebby Calvin on January 04, 2011, 11:10:38 am
From another UT-related site:

Doesn't sound like it's Fangio just yet.

Just saw that too.  Interesting.  I didn't even know Mississippi State was good again until bowl season.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: MusicMan on January 04, 2011, 11:11:18 am
Vic Fangio as DC? Maybe they'll hire Chris Palmer as OC and really get the band back together.

Pete Carroll was a pretty shitty NFL coach, too.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Bench on January 04, 2011, 11:16:14 am
Pete Carroll was a pretty shitty NFL coach, too.

His team won the division.  Somehow.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: MusicMan on January 04, 2011, 11:22:12 am
His team won the division.  Somehow.

By default.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: MRaup on January 04, 2011, 11:37:24 am
By default.

The two sweetest words in the English language. De-fault de-fault de-fault!
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Duke on January 04, 2011, 12:44:25 pm
Just saw that too.  Interesting.  I didn't even know Mississippi State was good again until bowl season.

I thought the MSU's defensive approach to Auburn was one of the best all year at containing  Newton. 17-14 in Starkville.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: ybbodeus on January 04, 2011, 01:18:49 pm
I watched that game, too.  You're spot on, but Cam Newton wasn't THE Cam Newton at that point; it took the South Carolina game the next week to give us a glimpse of what was about to happen.  

Had he not been such a pain in the ass moron at Florida, do you suppose we'd have ever heard of Tim Tebow?  That's the offical Auburn line on it, anyway.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: sporadic on January 04, 2011, 01:29:21 pm
I watched that game, too.  You're spot on, but Cam Newton wasn't THE Cam Newton at that point; it took the South Carolina game the next week to give us a glimpse of what was about to happen.  

Had he not been such a pain in the ass moron at Florida, do you suppose we'd have ever heard of Tim Tebow?  That's the offical Auburn line on it, anyway.

Watching his "character issues" bite some NFL team in the ass next year is going to be fucking awesome.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: BizidyDizidy on January 04, 2011, 01:30:16 pm
It really seems like he buttoned down and kept his nose clean once he became a professional - why should that change in the NFL?
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Ron Brand on January 04, 2011, 01:32:05 pm
It's not like there is some shortage of "character issues" in the NFL's history.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: MusicMan on January 04, 2011, 01:33:49 pm
It's not like there is some shortage of "character issues" in the NFL's history.

The most entertaining part of the Favre allegations has been the details that show he has absolutely no game.  I've heard 15-year olds do better.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: hostros7 on January 04, 2011, 01:36:25 pm
The most entertaining part of the Favre allegations has been the details that show he has absolutely no game.  I've heard 15-year olds do better.

A baker's dozen of vicodin isn't the best recipe for making love.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: sporadic on January 04, 2011, 01:37:34 pm
The most entertaining part of the Favre allegations has been the details that show he has absolutely no game.  I've heard 15-year olds do better.

no shit!  he should just dumb down his whole repertoire to "I'm brett Favre, wanna fuck?"
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: ybbodeus on January 04, 2011, 01:41:03 pm
Wouldn't that be stealing Peyton Manning's schtick?  (Allegedly)
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: sporadic on January 04, 2011, 01:50:45 pm
Wouldn't that be stealing Peyton Manning's schtick?  (Allegedly)

I'm sure there is no copyright on that one in the ego-driven world of professional sports.  Can't say I blame them too much...why would you exsert any kind of effort if you don't have to?  Not like they are trolling for members of Mensa
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: BudGirl on January 04, 2011, 01:56:33 pm
i guess sometimes they want the ones that say no.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on January 04, 2011, 02:00:14 pm
The most entertaining part of the Favre allegations has been the details that show he has absolutely no game.  I've heard 15-year olds do better.

Eh, "game" is predicated on necessity.  As a big stud football QB, I doubt he ever needed to develop "game".  There's are tons of groupie's who will sleep with him just to say they did. (eta)  His biggest fault seems to be not developing any ability to differentiate a groupie from an attractive woman in his immediate vicinity.

As for the stars of poor character (Manning, Rothlisberger - no one mention him yet?, Vick - on the redemption path reportedly, Steve McNair -shot by his psycho girlfriend, and now Favre) am I the only person making a mental note of thanks to my parents for discouraging me from selecting sports starts as my personal role models?  
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: MusicMan on January 04, 2011, 02:00:58 pm
i guess sometimes they want the ones that say no.

Kobe?
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: ybbodeus on January 04, 2011, 02:09:06 pm
So Michigan did in RichRod, huh?  Shocking.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: subnuclear on January 04, 2011, 02:59:12 pm
I'm sure there is no copyright on that one in the ego-driven world of professional sports.  Can't say I blame them too much...why would you exsert any kind of effort if you don't have to?  Not like they are trolling for members of Mensa

I think effort is the difference between Tom Brady, who is married to an awesome supermodel, and Brett Favre who sends pictures of his nuts to groupies.  I think its probably worth it. 
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: JaneDoe on January 04, 2011, 04:04:16 pm
I think effort is the difference between Tom Brady, who is married to an awesome supermodel, and Brett Favre who sends pictures of his nuts to groupies.  I think its probably worth it. 

So how do you explain Tiger?
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Ron Brand on January 04, 2011, 04:05:48 pm
From what I can find, it's looking pretty definite to be Chryst / Bostad on the offensive side and Diaz as DC barring last-minute atomic counteroffers.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: MusicMan on January 04, 2011, 04:12:53 pm
So how do you explain Tiger?

He never got to explore his sexuality during puberty.  i.e., he was so busy becoming the perfect golf machine that he never sowed his oats.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on January 04, 2011, 07:26:03 pm
He never got to explore his sexuality during puberty.  i.e., he was so busy becoming the perfect golf machine that he never sowed his oats.

More like his father was more interested in helping shape Tiger into the perfect golf machine, he left Tiger with absolutely no guide, checks or limitations on his personal behavior.  The end result is a narcissistic bastard. 

On that topic, I read an article about Earl Woods in Golf or Golf Digest.  The basic story is the behavior that got Tiger in trouble is exactly the role model his father provided.  Much of the article came from Earl Wood's daughter's perspective, Tiger's half-sister (they have no relationship).  IIRC, the daughter explains that her mother and Tiger's mother knew about Earl's behavior.  The first divorced him, the second demanded he live somewhere else.  It gets more sordid from there.  But the lack of a moral compass seems to be an inherited trait. 
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: BudGirl on January 04, 2011, 08:20:27 pm
the lack of a moral compass seems to be an inherited trait. 

inherited as in learned? or as in DNA?
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Bench on January 04, 2011, 08:26:57 pm
inherited as in learned? or as in DNA?

When it comes to parenting, it's kind of hard to separate the two.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on January 05, 2011, 05:59:51 am
inherited as in learned? or as in DNA?

Behavior is learned.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: subnuclear on January 05, 2011, 06:15:15 am
So how do you explain Tiger?

Tiger is exactly what happens when you are rich and famous and don't put any effort into it.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: roadrunner on January 05, 2011, 07:11:10 am
As for the stars of poor character (Manning, Rothlisberger - no one mention him yet?, Vick - on the redemption path reportedly, Steve McNair -shot by his psycho girlfriend, and now Favre) am I the only person making a mental note of thanks to my parents for discouraging me from selecting sports starts as my personal role models?  

Manning?  I've heard the rumors, but I didn't think it was solid enough to warrant him being in the same company as Big Ben, Vick, Favre, etc.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on January 05, 2011, 07:55:25 am
inherited as in learned? or as in DNA?

As a parent I'd say learned.  But that's just my opinion and I'm far from a parenting/genetic expert.  I'm more of a trial and error style parent.  That said, I know a guy (or two) who believe their wandering ways are genetically inherent and therefore beyond their self control. 
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on January 05, 2011, 07:57:25 am
Manning?  I've heard the rumors, but I didn't think it was solid enough to warrant him being in the same company as Big Ben, Vick, Favre, etc.

I honestly don't know or care.  I simple added the names I knew and were previously mentioned.  I mean, I could have referenced Steve Garvey for the sake of accuracy.  But I was afraid that would trigger one of Alkie's "Bagwell loves road pussy" rants. 
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Phil_in_CS on January 05, 2011, 09:47:08 am
That said, I know a guy (or two) who believe their wandering ways are genetically inherent and therefore beyond their self control. 

If they blame genetics, then they free themselves from the responsibility of having to correct the problem. That's very common in addicts of all types.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Jose Cruz III on January 05, 2011, 09:48:50 am
Manning?  I've heard the rumors, but I didn't think it was solid enough to warrant him being in the same company as Big Ben, Vick, Favre, etc.
UTK had to pay out some money when he was in college for exposing himself to a female trainer. IIRC, Fulmer went to talk to her and wound up asking her if she liked "big men".
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on January 05, 2011, 09:54:43 am
If they blame genetics, then they free themselves from the responsibility of having to correct the problem. That's very common in addicts of all types.


Ahh... rationalizations....
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: subnuclear on January 05, 2011, 10:16:52 am
If they blame genetics, then they free themselves from the responsibility of having to correct the problem. That's very common in addicts of all types.

Though they probably are right to a certain extent.  This does not mean their behavior needs to be indulged, it means they have to work harder and get more help to avoid it.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: kevwun on January 05, 2011, 04:38:49 pm
Looks like Manny Diaz is the new dc.  Still waiting on official confirmation, though.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Ron Brand on January 05, 2011, 05:12:35 pm
Looks like Manny Diaz is the new dc.  Still waiting on official confirmation, though.

The Clarion Ledger says it's so (http://blogs.clarionledger.com/msu/2011/01/05/diaz-accepts-texas-offer/).
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Lurch on January 05, 2011, 07:21:50 pm
Looks like Manny Diaz is the new dc.  Still waiting on official confirmation, though.

Official (http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/010511aad.html)
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: kevwun on January 06, 2011, 01:51:52 pm
Bennie Wylie from the other UT is set to be the new S&C coach.  Harsin looks to be the favorite as OC as Chryst has decided to interview for the Pitt job.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Duke on January 06, 2011, 02:03:51 pm
Bennie Wylie from the other UT is set to be the new S&C coach.  Harsin looks to be the favorite as OC as Chryst has decided to interview for the Pitt job.

I LOVE this hire.  Bennie Wylie was the S&C coach in Dallas when Larry Allen benched 700# and at TT when Rylan Reed benchthe ed 625#.  Nice clip here...  http://www.burntorangenation.com/2011/1/6/1919139/bennie-wylie-new-texas-s-c-coach-per-reports
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Lurch on January 06, 2011, 04:41:27 pm
According to Mack, Madden was too busy to focus on Football, so Madden hired Wylie to work under him to be the football S&C coach.  Odd.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Ron Brand on January 06, 2011, 04:44:37 pm
According to Mack, Madden was too busy to focus on Football, so Madden hired Wylie to work under him to be the football S&C coach.  Odd.

Yyyyyeah. Rrrrrrright.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: austro on January 06, 2011, 04:46:42 pm
According to Mack, Madden was too busy to focus on Football, so Madden hired Wylie to work under him to be the football S&C coach.  Odd.

Busy doing what?
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Lurch on January 06, 2011, 04:49:22 pm
Busy doing what?

And WTF is he going to do NOW that he has a subordinate doing football for him?  At Texas.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: kevwun on January 06, 2011, 04:52:16 pm
According to Mack, Madden was too busy to focus on Football, so Madden hired Wylie to work under him to be the football S&C coach.  Odd.

Sort of, if you don't know the whole story.  Mad Dog has grown incredibly lazy and set in his ways after once being among the best in the field.  However, he's one of Mack bestest pals.  Due to that, he has the title assistant AD in charge of strength and conditioning for the university.  Which is a complete joke, as if Todd Wright who is in the discussion for best s&c coach in college basketball, would listen to a single thing Mad Dog tells him.  Anyway, because of that title Mack can justify hiring Wylie as assistant coach, who's actually the real coach.  All to avoid firing his friend.

Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: JimR on January 06, 2011, 06:39:22 pm
According to Mack, Madden was too busy to focus on Football, so Madden hired Wylie to work under him to be the football S&C coach.  Odd.

what utter nonsense.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: sporadic on January 07, 2011, 08:37:50 am
I LOVE this hire.  Bennie Wylie was the S&C coach in Dallas when Larry Allen benched 700# and at TT when Rylan Reed benchthe ed 625#.  Nice clip here...  http://www.burntorangenation.com/2011/1/6/1919139/bennie-wylie-new-texas-s-c-coach-per-reports

Bennie fucking rules.  He has a great work ethic and a magnetic personality, great addition for UT.

Also, Bennie could bench 515...at his playing weight of 215.  Not too shabby for a Running Back at Sam Houston State.  does not look like he has let himself go too much...
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Lurch on January 07, 2011, 08:03:02 pm
Finally official!  Harsin and MA are co-cooridinators (http://mackbrown-texasfootball.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/010711aaa.html)
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: BUWebguy on January 08, 2011, 01:11:33 pm
What's the reason for making MA co-OC here and now? Worried about him leaving?
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Ron Brand on January 08, 2011, 01:52:23 pm
What's the reason for making MA co-OC here and now? Worried about him leaving?

I think part of it is a reward for working hard to keep the recruited class together, as well as an opportunity for him to get some advanced work on being an OC because that's his next step in the ladder.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: VirtualBob on January 08, 2011, 01:52:50 pm
What's the reason for making MA co-OC here and now? Worried about him leaving?

Yeah ... That worked so well with Muschamp.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Ron Brand on January 08, 2011, 02:00:15 pm
Yeah ... That worked so well with Muschamp.

Apples and oranges. So to speak.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Alkie on January 08, 2011, 05:38:01 pm
Does anyone not related to Major still care about him becoming HC eventually?
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Ron Brand on January 08, 2011, 06:05:33 pm
Does anyone not related to Major still care about him becoming HC eventually?

My friends and I have decided to hold off on our season ticket purchases to see if that will happen.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Alkie on January 08, 2011, 06:07:34 pm
My friends and I have decided to hold off on our season ticket purchases to see if that will happen.

Meaning you'll only buy season tix if he is fired?
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Ron Brand on January 08, 2011, 06:12:09 pm
Meaning you'll only buy season tix if he is fired?

No, we're going to continue to monitor and evaluate the situation.
Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: BizidyDizidy on January 08, 2011, 06:15:16 pm
I just plopped down deposits on stanford season tix; now have to see how many cross country trips the wife is up to with a 1 year old

Title: Re: UT Coaching Hires
Post by: Alkie on January 08, 2011, 06:16:53 pm
I just plopped down deposits on stanford season tix; now have to see how many cross country trips the wife is up to with a 1 year old

As the only season ticket holder, they're not willing to move some of the games to your backyard?