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Title: In & Out
Post by: Outlawscotty on September 27, 2010, 09:01:45 am
 Coming to Texas (http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=119078&article=7642020)
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: OregonStrosFan on September 27, 2010, 09:10:31 am
Coming to Texas (http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=119078&article=7642020)

Prepare to be underwhelmed.  I'll take a Whataburger over an In-n-Out anytime...
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Outlawscotty on September 27, 2010, 11:10:12 am
I'm with you I'm pretty sure because Whataburger is can't miss.  All San Antonio needs is yet another avenue to pack on the pounds.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ebby Calvin on September 27, 2010, 11:11:42 am
Prepare to be underwhelmed.  I'll take a Whataburger over an In-n-Out anytime...

Agree 100%.  It's nice to have options, though.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ron Brand on September 27, 2010, 11:49:48 am
Fatburger, baby.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Outlawscotty on September 27, 2010, 12:06:07 pm
I'm with you I'm pretty sure because Whataburger is can't miss.  All San Antonio needs is yet another avenue to pack on the pounds.

he says as he sits down with his #2 Double Meat Double Cheese Combo and Fries.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: MRaup on September 27, 2010, 12:22:44 pm
he says as he sits down with his #2 Double Meat Double Cheese Combo and Fries.

If that isn't Animal Style, you foo.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Outlawscotty on September 27, 2010, 12:38:08 pm
If that isn't Animal Style, you foo.
I expect it was, but then again I inhaled it so, yes, yes it was.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: ybbodeus on September 27, 2010, 02:56:14 pm
 "White Dallas Ft. Worth is certainly where we will take our first step into Texas; our hope is, in due course, we will soon get down to San Antonio," Russell said.

Talk about your typos...shit!

If this was announced in May, why the heck is it only now making news?  Flyover country issues?
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on September 27, 2010, 03:05:42 pm
I ate at In & Out last year, while in LA for business.  Not impressed.  I think Sonic is a good comparison.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Limey on September 27, 2010, 03:21:13 pm
I ate at In & Out last year, while in LA for business.  Not impressed.  I think Sonic is a good comparison.

Yikes.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: MusicMan on September 27, 2010, 03:21:37 pm
I ate at In & Out last year, while in LA for business.  Not impressed.  I think Sonic is a good comparison.

You must have found some kind of magical gourmet Sonic.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: MRaup on September 27, 2010, 03:24:10 pm
I ate at In & Out last year, while in LA for business.  Not impressed.  I think Sonic is a good comparison.

I'm going to beat you to death with a pair of rollerskates.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: ybbodeus on September 27, 2010, 03:58:34 pm
I've never taken the jingle, "No place else like Sonic," as particularly positive, given its Oklahoma roots; I took it as more of a warning.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: MusicMan on September 27, 2010, 04:00:06 pm
I've never taken the jingle, "No place else like Sonic," as particularly positive, given its Oklahoma roots.

They are some of the worst hamburgers I've ever tasted.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: ybbodeus on September 27, 2010, 04:01:21 pm
You're not on the Space Mountain ride, are you?
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 27, 2010, 04:09:03 pm
They are some of the worst hamburgers I've ever tasted.

The best hamburgers are from the little mom and pop places off the beaten path.  I swear the best burger I've ever had in my life may have been at a little cafe in Sundown.  As for chain burger joints, it's hard to beat Beck's Prime.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Limey on September 27, 2010, 04:21:51 pm
The best hamburgers are from the little mom and pop places off the beaten path.  I swear the best burger I've ever had in my life may have been at a little cafe in Sundown.  As for chain burger joints, it's hard to beat Beck's Prime.

I had this bad boy (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31444145&l=79a73d43bf&id=1035391549) at BRC (http://www.brcgastropub.com/BRC/Welcome_to_BRC_Gastropub.html).  Not for the feint of heart or sober of mind.  Double meat, double cheese, double bacon and double fried egg.

They had the "Double Double" as a burger special, and also a "McCock", which was a single burger with an egg.  We merged the two for the "Double Double McCock", which, the chef insisted, had to have double egg to keep the theme intact.  Who were we to argue...
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: MusicMan on September 27, 2010, 04:22:40 pm
You're not on the Space Mountain ride, are you?

I'm back and have survived to tell the tale.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ron Brand on September 27, 2010, 04:29:44 pm
The best hamburgers are from the little mom and pop places off the beaten path.  I swear the best burger I've ever had in my life may have been at a little cafe in Sundown.  As for chain burger joints, it's hard to beat Beck's Prime.

When I was on Atkins, I went from burger stalwart to McBurger outlet and came to the conclusion that stripped of the extras, they all taste almost exactly the same. That was a very sad realization. Dirty's, Whataburger, McDonald's, Five Guys, whatever - it's barely seasoned meat cooked on a griddle. It was only the larger ones, like Beck's, or the ones that were grilled over flame like Top Notch that tasted any different.

Never underestimate the value of all the crap they put on the sandwich, and how the bread differs.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: ybbodeus on September 27, 2010, 04:43:17 pm
Cupp's Drive-Inn, 14th and Speight, South Waco.  Personal favorite that meets the HH definition.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: MusicMan on September 27, 2010, 04:48:13 pm
Never underestimate the value of all the crap they put on the sandwich, and how the bread differs.

Yes, which is where In & Out and Becks are superior.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Andyzipp on September 27, 2010, 06:55:04 pm
The meat at Pappa's Burgers is superior, because it's mostly trimmings from the steakhouse next door.  But mostly you're correct.  A well constructed burger is more than the sum of its parts. 

And for the record, Lankford Grocery and Christians Totem are neck and neck for me.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: drew corleone on September 27, 2010, 07:23:41 pm
I've eaten In n' Out twice and was very happy with my choice both times. I still need to eat Fatburger.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Andyzipp on September 27, 2010, 07:37:33 pm
Anyone tried SmashBurger yet?
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on September 27, 2010, 09:10:28 pm
I like In and Out better than Whataburger. But I've only had In and Out three times, I've had Whataburger probably 978 times or more. Locally I like Hat Creek Burgers and P. Terry's Burger Stand. Fresh cut fries, never frozen beef, fresh fixin's. Good burgers, both places. a slight nod to P. Terry's.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: austro on September 27, 2010, 09:14:53 pm
I was underwhelmed by P. Terry's the one time I ate there. The burger was ok, I guess, although small, but the fries were a greasy abomination. Top Notch is still my favorite.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Bench on September 27, 2010, 09:23:19 pm
Anyone tried SmashBurger yet?

Not a fan at all.  They're style is to over-season everything. 
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on September 27, 2010, 09:34:35 pm
I ate at Top Notch twice probably 10 years ago, thought they were overpriced, overcooked, over salted, flat preformed prefrozen patties. I was so unimpressed I never went back.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ron Brand on September 27, 2010, 09:38:35 pm
I was underwhelmed by P. Terry's the one time I ate there. The burger was ok, I guess, although small, but the fries were a greasy abomination. Top Notch is still my favorite.

I detest P. Terry's, a weak In-n-Out wannabe that is all style and no substance. Small, flavorless and weak.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ron Brand on September 27, 2010, 09:41:24 pm
I ate at Top Notch twice probably 10 years ago, thought they were overpriced, overcooked, over salted, flat preformed prefrozen patties. I was so unimpressed I never went back.

Wow. I've eaten there since it was created from the old Burkhart's in the late 60s. Grilled over an open flame, and I'm pretty sure they aren't prefrozen, overcooked or oversalted and they aren't expensive, either. I'm sorry you had bad impressions.

Absolutely superb fried chicken too.

ETA: I guess they could've been frozen, I don't know for sure but I don't remember seeing any frozen patties or racks thawing anywhere.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on September 27, 2010, 09:51:28 pm
Yeah, I don't get the Top Notch attraction. But I think the main reason I never went back was the hag working there that day was mean, and stinky.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ron Brand on September 27, 2010, 09:58:05 pm
Yeah, I don't get the Top Notch attraction. But I think the main reason I never went back was the hag working there that day was mean, and stinky.

Sphinx.

Cancer AND osteoporosis. I'd have my cranky days too.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Gizzmonic on September 28, 2010, 05:50:37 am
Fatburger, baby.

They used to have a Fatburger in San Antonio right by my place.  It closed about 2 years ago, sadly.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on September 28, 2010, 07:09:40 am
Yeah, beat me with the roller skate.  I'm fine with that as long as I don't have to eat In & Out again.  And I never said I LIKED Sonic.  I simply that I thought the burgers were comparable. 

There's a Place in North East Dallas, JG's, which is very good.  Chester's in San Antonio is also a family favorite.  But a trip to NY City introduced me to Jackson Hole in the Wall.  I was impressed, but Alkie has offered some interesting criticism on that choice.  I'm not necessarily agreeing, but I'm curious what burger he got, as they have 20+ variations.  I got the Bacon Cheeseburger with cheddar and dijon mustard, which was simply outstanding. 
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on September 28, 2010, 07:17:59 am
I got the Bacon Cheeseburger with cheddar and dijon mustard, which was simply outstanding. 

I don't think dijon mustard belongs on a hamburger. I believe once you start adding stuff like blue cheese, capers, sprouts, bbq sauce, chili, or ranch dressing, it ceases being a hamburger and becomes a sandwich with a hamburger patty. In other words a gourmet hamburger is not really a hamburger.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: EasTexAstro on September 28, 2010, 07:52:52 am
I don't think dijon mustard belongs on a hamburger. I believe once you start adding stuff like blue cheese, capers, sprouts, bbq sauce, chili, or ranch dressing, it ceases being a hamburger and becomes a sandwich with a hamburger patty. In other words a gourmet hamburger is not really a hamburger.

I don't like Dijon on my burger, but I disagree. A nice, grilled burger with Claussen pickles, blue cheese, and grilled onions: great hamburger.

As far as the chains go, it can really make a difference which store you go to. Twenty years ago, Fuddruckers was fantastic. I still have had some pretty good ones, though it seems they have changed the way they process the beef and the condiment bar doesn't seem as impressive. I can't stand the one in Kingwood, though. It just seem to have the same good taste.

The mom and pop places and hamburger stands really can be the best places to go, but I have even found Sonics and Burger Kings that seem to go the extra mile to give good food and service. I've even had bad luck with Chick-fil-A before. It really can come down to haw the store is run, sometimes.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on September 28, 2010, 07:55:31 am
I don't think dijon mustard belongs on a hamburger. I believe once you start adding stuff like blue cheese, capers, sprouts, bbq sauce, chili, or ranch dressing, it ceases being a hamburger and becomes a sandwich with a hamburger patty. In other words a gourmet hamburger is not really a hamburger.

I have no idea how you equate dijon mustard to those other items, which I'd personally never put on a burger (although I have mixed in bbq sauce with the meat, before cooking).  Care to offer an "approved" list of acceptable condiments and toppings (lettuce, tomato, pickles, bacon, etc...)?  If you can provide that, I'll revise my burger recommendations accordingly.

eta:  JG's and Chesters is your typical american burger joint, serving what I think are some of the best burgers around.  Personal tastes being what they are.

Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on September 28, 2010, 08:25:52 am
Care to offer an "approved" list of acceptable condiments and toppings (lettuce, tomato, pickles, bacon, etc...)?  If you can provide that, I'll revise my burger recommendations accordingly.

I was kidding. Pretending to be burger snob. You need no justification to eat your "burger" any way you like, and certainly not from an approved list by a contrarian such as I.

But for the record:
Bun - can be seeded and or grilled or not.
Meat - ground beef.
Garnish - lettuce, cheese, tomatoes, pickles (sweet,dill, sliced, relish), onions, jalapenos, bacon.
Condiments - mustard, mayo, miracle whip, ketchup.

Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on September 28, 2010, 08:29:38 am
And for the record, Lankford Grocery and Christians Totem are neck and neck for me.

This.  Although Hubcap Grill is pretty damned solid too.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on September 28, 2010, 09:21:41 am
I was kidding. Pretending to be burger snob. You need no justification to eat your "burger" any way you like, and certainly not from an approved list by a contrarian such as I.

But for the record:
Bun - can be seeded and or grilled or not.
Meat - ground beef.
Garnish - lettuce, cheese, tomatoes, pickles (sweet,dill, sliced, relish), onions, jalapenos, bacon.
Condiments - mustard, mayo, miracle whip, ketchup.



Mea culpa.  I hosed up my iTouch this AM by simply plugging it in.  Apparently updating software re-enabled auto-sync, blowing away all my playlists.  My sense of humor is just now starting to recover.

To those offering their favorite burger places, may I request that you add some geographical details?  I'd like to know if I'm ever going to have a chance to try some of these places. 

For example, I'm heading to Tempe in the next month or so.  Can anyone offer a recommendation?  I've been there a few times, and found mostly chain type restaurants.  I found a great burger place in OKC, on the mini-river walk area, by Bricktown.  But also looking for recommendations for New Haven, CT. 
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Bench on September 28, 2010, 09:51:51 am
But also looking for recommendations for New Haven, CT. 

Skip the burgers and go for the pizza.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: rifraft on September 28, 2010, 09:53:10 am
But also looking for recommendations for New Haven, CT. 

Let me know what you find, we are planning a trip to New Haven in a few weeks.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 28, 2010, 09:56:35 am
Anyone tried SmashBurger yet?

Have not, but I ate at Southwell's for the first time the other day.  It wasn't bad.  Nothing earth shattering, but a decent burger.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: BudGirl on September 28, 2010, 09:58:05 am
Skip the burgers and go for the pizza.

Sally's or Pepe's?
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Bench on September 28, 2010, 10:00:00 am
Sally's or Pepe's?

Both.  When a city's pizza has its own wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven-style_pizza) you join the debate.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on September 28, 2010, 10:05:07 am
Thanks for the New Haven recommendations!
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Andyzipp on September 28, 2010, 10:31:52 am
Have not, but I ate at Southwell's for the first time the other day.  It wasn't bad.  Nothing earth shattering, but a decent burger.

That sounds about right.  Southwell's is better or worse depending on location, I've found.  Never had a bad burger at the Memorial location, but others...meh.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ebby Calvin on September 28, 2010, 10:35:14 am
That sounds about right.  Southwell's is better or worse depending on location, I've found.  Never had a bad burger at the Memorial location, but others...meh.

There's one near my house (Holcombe @ Greenbriar) and my work (Sawyer @ I-10), so I usually head there if'n I'm hankering for a decent burger.  Not the best, but still pretty darn good.
I'd choose Lankford's over anything else in town, but I rarely have cash and rarely feel like eating at 11am to avoid the crowds.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 28, 2010, 10:35:35 am
That sounds about right.  Southwell's is better or worse depending on location, I've found.  Never had a bad burger at the Memorial location, but others...meh.

I'd never heard of it until some people from work wanted to go there the other day.  We went to the one on Taylor.  I had no idea there was more than one.  I had the bacon cheeseburger with mustard.  I know, mustard on a burger is sacrilege to some people, but I'm a mustard fan.  I have no less than 15 different kinds in my fridge right now.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 28, 2010, 10:37:04 am
I'd choose Lankford's over anything else in town, but I rarely have cash and rarely feel like eating at 11am to avoid the crowds.

At my office, if the lunch train isn't heading out by 11:00, people are getting pretty cranky.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ron Brand on September 28, 2010, 10:37:31 am
When did mustard on a hamburger become sacrilege? Has anyone told Whataburger about this?
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: MusicMan on September 28, 2010, 10:40:26 am
I'd never heard of it until some people from work wanted to go there the other day.  We went to the one on Taylor.  I had no idea there was more than one.  I had the bacon cheeseburger with mustard.  I know, mustard on a burger is sacrilege to some people, but I'm a mustard fan.  I have no less than 15 different kinds in my fridge right now.

I always go with mustard.  Don't get that mayo shit anywhere near me.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Andyzipp on September 28, 2010, 10:40:37 am
When did mustard on a hamburger become sacrilege? Has anyone told Whataburger about this?

Jimmy Buffet was for it...


Medium rare with mustard 'be nice
Heaven on earth with an onion slice



before he was agin it...


I like mine with lettuce and tomato
Heinz 57 and french fried potatoes
Big kosher pickle and a cold draft beer




Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: MusicMan on September 28, 2010, 10:48:06 am
Jimmy Buffet was for it...


Medium rare with mustard 'be nice
Heaven on earth with an onion slice





The line is actually "medium rare with muenster'd be nice".  He's referring to the cheese on his cheeseburger in paradise.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: EasTexAstro on September 28, 2010, 10:51:14 am
The line is actually "medium rare with muenster'd be nice".  He's referring to the cheese on his cheeseburger in paradise.

Did you have to bring up white cheese, again?
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 28, 2010, 10:51:48 am
Jimmy Buffet was for it...


Medium rare with mustard 'be nice
Heaven on earth with an onion slice


Actualy, it's "medium rare with muenster'd be nice".  Buffet says it's a common misheard lyric.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 28, 2010, 10:52:38 am
When did mustard on a hamburger become sacrilege? Has anyone told Whataburger about this?

Most burger connoiseurs I know say it's either mayo or nothing at all.  Never mustard.  I disagree.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 28, 2010, 10:53:18 am
I always go with mustard.  Don't get that mayo shit anywhere near me.

I'm exactly the same way.  I'd rather eat it dry than with mayo.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on September 28, 2010, 10:54:20 am
I'm exactly the same way.  I'd rather eat it dry than with mayo.

Ditto... Other than tuna or potato salad, I can't think of anything that requires mayo. 
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: rifraft on September 28, 2010, 10:54:52 am
I'm exactly the same way.  I'd rather eat it dry than with mayo.

If the meat is high quality, with sufficient fat, you don't need to lubricate the bun to get it to go down.  
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: BudGirl on September 28, 2010, 10:55:17 am
Ditto... Other than tuna or potato salad, I can't think of anything that requires mayo. 

chicken salad
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ron Brand on September 28, 2010, 10:55:52 am
Sometimes I want mayo, sometimes I want mustard. Sometimes I want hickory sauce. I don't understand hatred for mustard. Weird.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: EasTexAstro on September 28, 2010, 10:55:56 am
Most burger connoiseurs I know say it's either mayo or nothing at all.  Never mustard.  I disagree.

Maybe up north, but mustard should be the default. It is Texan. I never understood why urger King has this wonderful Texas Burger, but you have to ask them to put mustard rather then mayo. It just isn't natural. [/fast food burger snob]
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 28, 2010, 10:56:34 am
If the meat is high quality, with sufficient fat, you don't need to lubricate the bun to get it to go down.  

They condiment doesn't lubricate the bun, it moisture proofs it.  It keeps the bun from getting soggy, which is why it's even more important when the burger is juicy.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: VirtualBob on September 28, 2010, 10:57:22 am
Ditto... Other than tuna or potato salad, I can't think of anything that requires mayo. 
Try it on french fries.  Seriously.  You have to really gear up for it the first time, but it is surprisingly good.  Only problem is the sound your arteries make as they slam shut.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 28, 2010, 10:58:27 am
Try it on french fries.  Seriously.  You have to really gear up for it the first time, but it is surprisingly good.  Only problem is the sound your arteries make as they slam shut.

If I don't like the taste of mayo on anything else, I'm not sure why I'd like it on my fries.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ty in Tampa on September 28, 2010, 10:58:57 am
I'm a mayo-on-my-burger fan. Not all the time, but lettuce, mayo and a big, juicy tomato slice is usually how I roll.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: EasTexAstro on September 28, 2010, 10:59:51 am
Mayo on a BLT isn't too bad.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: VirtualBob on September 28, 2010, 11:00:46 am
If I don't like the taste of mayo on anything else, I'm not sure why I'd like it on my fries.
Mustard for meat.  I never have liked mayo.  But "try it, you'll like it".
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on September 28, 2010, 11:04:29 am
chicken salad

I stand corrected.  My wife makes a mean chicken salad too.  I have some explainin' to do at home.

As for mayo on french fries, move back to Europe ya' big pinko.  Never understood how getting an order of pommes frites in Deutschland would get you a giant glob of mayonaise.  Nastiest thing I've ever had.  No thanks.  Sadly, this phenomenon is not exclusive to Germany.  I got the same issue of unwanted mayo in France, Belgium, and The Netherlands.

That said, Germany is one place I tell them no mustard on the wurst!  They put enough horse radish mustard on their wurst to choke an actual horse.  And I love horse-radish mustard.  Germany also happens to be home of one the best burgers I've ever had.  It had an interesting mix of coleslaw and cooked cabbage (two doses of cabbage in various forms, who'da thunk it.  And yes, their coleslaw had mayo - one of the only times I've enjoyed it on a burger) made for one of my all-time favorite burgers.  
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: hostros7 on September 28, 2010, 11:13:19 am
Ditto... Other than tuna or potato salad, I can't think of anything that requires mayo. 

I even prefer mustard on my potato salad.  Mayo and I don't really have any sort of relationship.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ty in Tampa on September 28, 2010, 11:14:56 am

As for mayo on french fries, move back to Europe ya' big pinko.  Never understood how getting an order of pommes frites in Deutschland would get you a giant glob of mayonaise.


"I've seen 'em do it, man! They fucking drown 'em in that shit!"
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: ybbodeus on September 28, 2010, 11:16:02 am
Their Royale with cheese, too?
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: BizidyDizidy on September 28, 2010, 11:25:02 am
I am partial to the thousand island type sauce used by in and out and shake shack, among others (Beck's Prime has a pretty good version too).
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Bench on September 28, 2010, 11:36:05 am
I'd never heard of it until some people from work wanted to go there the other day.  We went to the one on Taylor.  I had no idea there was more than one.  I had the bacon cheeseburger with mustard.  I know, mustard on a burger is sacrilege to some people, but I'm a mustard fan.  I have no less than 15 different kinds in my fridge right now.

Ketchup on a burger is sacrilege.  Not quite as bad as ketchup on a sausage or hot dog, but up there.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ron Brand on September 28, 2010, 11:42:49 am
I am partial to the thousand island type sauce used by in and out and shake shack, among others (Beck's Prime has a pretty good version too).

"Okay, here's your preparation stuff. You got your sliced tomatoes, shredded lettuce, secret sauce."

"What's the secret sauce?"

"Thousand Island dressing. What's the secret sauce at Bronco Burger?"

"Ketchup and mayonnaise."

"Gotcha."
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: ybbodeus on September 28, 2010, 11:47:04 am
YOU used to work at All-American burger!
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ron Brand on September 28, 2010, 11:48:18 am
Until I threatened to kick 100% of that guy's ass.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: ybbodeus on September 28, 2010, 11:48:54 am
Heard Arnold had a hell of a piss, no?
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ron Brand on September 28, 2010, 11:50:05 am
I hope so!
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 28, 2010, 12:41:58 pm
Ketchup on a burger is sacrilege.  Not quite as bad as ketchup on a sausage or hot dog, but up there.

Ketchup is fine on a burger.  It's fine on a hot dog...if you're under 12 years of age.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Astroholic on September 28, 2010, 12:59:54 pm

I eat Mayo on my hambuger and 'hot dog'.  Ketsup on my steak.  I was it all down with Budweiser.  So what!



I almost forgot, I don't mind beans in my chili.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: BudGirl on September 28, 2010, 01:01:35 pm
Ketsup on my steak. 

OMG
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Astroholic on September 28, 2010, 01:04:22 pm
OMG

I know, right!  Been doing it since I was a kid.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ebby Calvin on September 28, 2010, 01:21:33 pm
I know, right!  Been doing it since I was a kid.

My wife does this.  I can't stand it when I pull a nice steak off the grill and she promptly defaces it.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Astroholic on September 28, 2010, 01:24:17 pm
My wife does this.  I can't stand it when I pull a nice steak off the grill and she promptly defaces it.

I don't actually put it on top.  I put it on the side, mix in some hot sauce and steak juice.  UMMM UMMM!
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on September 28, 2010, 01:42:48 pm
I like Catsup on CFS but Ketchup on FF.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Astroholic on September 28, 2010, 02:02:01 pm
I like Catsup on CFS but Ketchup on FF.

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ketchup_v._Catsup

Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: sporadic on September 28, 2010, 02:05:57 pm
mix in some hot sauce and steak juice.  UMMM UMMM!

A-1, Ketchup and Louisianna hot sauce mixed together is a pretty fine fer franch fries (although not anywhere near a good steak)
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on September 28, 2010, 02:09:36 pm
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ketchup_v._Catsup


Mike Hunt!
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Astroholic on September 28, 2010, 02:11:49 pm
A-1, Ketchup and Louisianna hot sauce mixed together is a pretty fine fer franch fries (although not anywhere near a good steak)
don't know what yer missing.  I perfer mexican hot sauce, specifically Cholula (you know the one with the round wooden lid).

http://www.amazon.com/Cholula-Chili-Garlic-Wooden-Stopper/dp/B000NURB1S

Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Astroholic on September 28, 2010, 02:13:26 pm
Mike Hunt!

Was a guy in my school years with that name.  He preferred Michael.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: sporadic on September 28, 2010, 02:31:05 pm
don't know what yer missing.  I perfer mexican hot sauce, specifically Cholula (you know the one with the round wooden lid).

http://www.amazon.com/Cholula-Chili-Garlic-Wooden-Stopper/dp/B000NURB1S



Cholula is freaking awesome on eggs.  By far my favorite mexican hot sauce (although I prefer the blast of vinegar offered by the Louisiana sauces)
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Bench on September 28, 2010, 02:35:05 pm
Was a guy in my school years with that name.  He preferred Michael.

I went to college with a guy named Mike Hoch.  He went by Mike.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: austro on September 28, 2010, 02:37:42 pm
Cholula is freaking awesome on eggs.  By far my favorite mexican hot sauce (although I prefer the blast of vinegar offered by the Louisiana sauces)

Cholula is good; I like it. Give the Tabasco Chipotle a try, too. I've always got a bottle of that on the table.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Astroholic on September 28, 2010, 02:41:35 pm
Cholula is good; I like it. Give the Tabasco Chipotle a try, too. I've always got a bottle of that on the table.

not a tabasco fan.  I like Texas Petes,Franks red hot, Louisana Original Hot Sause and Tapatio.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: austro on September 28, 2010, 02:44:21 pm
not a tabasco fan.

I'm not a big fan of ordinary Tabasco either, which is why I was surprised by the chipotle version.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: BizidyDizidy on September 28, 2010, 02:47:06 pm
I am partial to Crystal's myself (I prefer the vinegary taste). You can also make an amazing hollandaise with Sriracha.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: ybbodeus on September 28, 2010, 02:55:03 pm
Was a guy in my school years with that name.  He preferred Michael.

There was a guy who worked as a professional fundraiser for Baylor back in the 70's named Richard Head.  He went by Richard, obviously.  He wasn't a "Jr." or a "III."
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Lefty on September 28, 2010, 03:59:39 pm
I even prefer mustard on my potato salad.

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When did mustard on a hamburger become sacrilege?

"Even"?  "Sacrilege"?  Yall aren't from the Hill Country, are you?

Nothing wrong with a little mayo if the situation requires (like in a really juicy burger, as noted earlier), horseradish+mayo on the bottom bun, lettuce, tomato, grilled onion, cheddar & bacon is a hell of a burger.

Anyone tried the Hawaiian sweet burger buns?  When you're in the mood for something different, they work damn well, may not be for everyone though.

Also:  cheese, American or other? 

Also also:  Cajun Power Garlic Sauce is a necessity in any respectable Texas pantry.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: EasTexAstro on September 28, 2010, 04:14:45 pm
"Even"?  "Sacrilege"?  Yall aren't from the Hill Country, are you?

Nothing wrong with a little mayo if the situation requires (like in a really juicy burger, as noted earlier), horseradish+mayo on the bottom bun, lettuce, tomato, grilled onion, cheddar & bacon is a hell of a burger.

Anyone tried the Hawaiian sweet burger buns?  When you're in the mood for something different, they work damn well, may not be for everyone though.

Also:  cheese, American or other? 

Also also:  Cajun Power Garlic Sauce is a necessity in any respectable Texas pantry.

Mayo should stay away from my burger.

I've been known to use a grilled onion roll bun on occasion, and I like Hawaiian bread, but I am not sure it would work for me.

Blue cheese. Only. I wouldn't put any other cheese on a good steak, so I don't want it near my burger.

There are reasons to cover up the (non)taste of a fast food burger, but a good hamburger patty needs only a slight compliment, not a condiment circus.

Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: ybbodeus on September 28, 2010, 04:35:43 pm
Would someone explain that concept to the Pappas folks, too, particularly as it applies to fish?  Much obliged.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Bench on September 28, 2010, 04:59:51 pm
You can also make an amazing hollandaise with Sriracha.

That Sriracha dipping sauce at Little Big's is the shit.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: WakePhil on September 28, 2010, 06:01:05 pm
not a tabasco fan.  I like Texas Petes,Franks red hot, Louisana Original Hot Sause and Tapatio.

Went to school in Winston-Salem, NC which is home to Texas Pete. Always thought it was a curious choice of name. Carolinians are proud of their BBQ, and rightfully so, but every restaurant would have their NC made Texas Pete as the hot sauce of choice. It is good stuff though. Especially with Carolina BBQ.

It didn't seem like they made much effort to sell it in Texas until a few years ago.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Guinness on September 28, 2010, 06:34:55 pm
"Even"?  "Sacrilege"?  Yall aren't from the Hill Country, are you?

Nothing wrong with a little mayo if the situation requires (like in a really juicy burger, as noted earlier), horseradish+mayo on the bottom bun, lettuce, tomato, grilled onion, cheddar & bacon is a hell of a burger.

Anyone tried the Hawaiian sweet burger buns?  When you're in the mood for something different, they work damn well, may not be for everyone though.

Also:  cheese, American or other?  

Also also:  Cajun Power Garlic Sauce is a necessity in any respectable Texas pantry.

Not a fan of too much in the way of sauces, mustard and/or ketchup are fine, but I can do without.  I find mayo in all of its forms to be disgusting, and won't eat it at all.
Cheese?  American is fine, I prefer Swiss or Provolone.
Onion rolls are great.  I like some variety in choice of bread with a burger.
I keep both Mexican and Louisiana hot sauce in the house.  Depends on mood.  Had some Red Baron pizza slices today with Cholula.  Good stuff.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: BizidyDizidy on September 28, 2010, 07:02:09 pm
Making burgers tonight. About to grind a sirloin-brisket-short rib blend. Going to make my own thousand island, and serve with tomatoes, cheddar, and red onion.

ETA: They were spectacular. Sorry y'all couldn't make it.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: VirtualBob on September 29, 2010, 03:28:35 pm
As for mayo on french fries, move back to Europe ya' big pinko.  Never understood how getting an order of pommes frites in Deutschland would get you a giant glob of mayonaise.  

Actually, that is where I am more than half the time (tho not a 'pinko').  I didn't understand it either until I tried it.  Now I understand.

That said, Germany is one place I tell them no mustard on the wurst!   

Now that's crazy talk.  I am beginning to see where the disconnect is.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: VirtualBob on September 29, 2010, 03:30:56 pm
A-1, Ketchup and Louisianna hot sauce mixed together is a pretty fine fer franch fries (although not anywhere near a good steak)
Agree.  And causes less consternation at neighboring tables than mayo.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: VirtualBob on September 29, 2010, 03:33:52 pm
Went to school in Winston-Salem, NC which is home to Texas Pete. Always thought it was a curious choice of name. Carolinians are proud of their BBQ, and rightfully so, but every restaurant would have their NC made Texas Pete as the hot sauce of choice. It is good stuff though. Especially with Carolina BBQ.

It didn't seem like they made much effort to sell it in Texas until a few years ago.
Carolina don't do BBQ ... they do pulled pork.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 29, 2010, 03:48:33 pm
Carolina don't do BBQ ... they do pulled pork.

Which is BBQ.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on September 29, 2010, 06:10:13 pm
Now that's crazy talk.  I am beginning to see where the disconnect is.

Go ahead and take that out of context.  I would simply add it myself.  I love mustard, but not to the point where I'm eating a little bit of wurst with my mustard, if you follow my meaning. 
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Alkie on September 29, 2010, 07:05:12 pm
Go ahead and take that out of context.  I would simply add it myself.  I love mustard, but not to the point where I'm eating a little bit of wurst with my mustard, if you follow my meaning. 

You enjoy doing the ass-to-mouth thing with teenage boys?
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: chuck on September 29, 2010, 07:44:37 pm
You enjoy doing the ass-to-mouth thing with teenage boys?

Surely that would indicate ketchup.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: Ron Brand on September 29, 2010, 09:02:29 pm
Espagnole sauce.
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on September 30, 2010, 11:18:59 am
You enjoy doing the ass-to-mouth thing with teenage boys?

I see what you did there...  damnit...
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: das on September 30, 2010, 12:44:04 pm
I was kidding. Pretending to be burger snob. You need no justification to eat your "burger" any way you like, and certainly not from an approved list by a contrarian such as I.

But for the record:
Bun - can be seeded and or grilled or not.
Meat - ground beef.
Garnish - lettuce, cheese, tomatoes, pickles (sweet,dill, sliced, relish), onions, jalapenos, bacon.
Condiments - mustard, mayo, miracle whip, ketchup.


Did you really say "Miracle Whip"?  Out loud?  In a public place?
Title: Re: In & Out
Post by: NeilT on September 30, 2010, 12:46:14 pm
I've heard Sparkle Burger matches Lankfords grease to grease.  Anyone?  Anyone?