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General Discussion => Beer and Queso => Topic started by: HudsonHawk on July 14, 2010, 08:41:55 am
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704699604575343210255777650.html?KEYWORDS=razor
I ran across this article earlier this week, and it kind of hit home with me, as I've recently decided I've had enough of the fancy gimmicks and paying $20 for a 4-pack of razor blades. I've gone back to the cheap disposable kind, you know 10 fer a dollar. But it got me thinking...who keeps buying this crap? Is it everyday guys like me or just the young guys who look like the models in the commercials?
At any rate, I suppose shaving is a pretty personal choice for most guys, and everyone has their favorite way of doing it. My grandfather used a straight razor. My dad used the ol' double-edged "safety razor", which could still tear your face up, if you were still a little groggy in the morning. Me...I've tried using both, but didn't have the skill to sharpen the straight razor properly and the safety razor made even more nervous. I've always used the modern "bloodless" kind, though I'm not a devotee of any particular brand or style. But something makes me long for the days when shaving was an important daily ritual, something a man did to put his best face forward, even if he wasn't a matinee idol. Perhaps I'm just getting old.
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Hilarious harbinger of things to come:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-were-doing-five-blades,11056/
It should be apparent that the pricing for blades has become ridiculous when it is guarded more tightly at your local pharmacy than condoms, beer, and cigs. I don't want to live in a world where disposable blades are more highly coveted contraband than any of the three.
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This stuff pisses me off, too. And I'm pretty sure that once they bring out a new model they start using inferior steel in the blades that they build for the old models. I'll get a great shave for a couple of years, and the blades will last forever, and then they introduce a new N+1 blade model, and it seems like the blades for my retro model don't give me as good a shave or last as long. Like the guy in the article, I was perfectly happy with my two-blade Sensor Excel, but I couldn't find blades anymore and had to "upgrade" to something I could find blades for.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704699604575343210255777650.html?KEYWORDS=razor
I ran across this article earlier this week, and it kind of hit home with me, as I've recently decided I've had enough of the fancy gimmicks and paying $20 for a 4-pack of razor blades. I've gone back to the cheap disposable kind, you know 10 fer a dollar. But it got me thinking...who keeps buying this crap? Is it everyday guys like me or just the young guys who look like the models in the commercials?
At any rate, I suppose shaving is a pretty personal choice for most guys, and everyone has their favorite way of doing it. My grandfather used a straight razor. My dad used the ol' double-edged "safety razor", which could still tear your face up, if you were still a little groggy in the morning. Me...I've tried using both, but didn't have the skill to sharpen the straight razor properly and the safety razor made even more nervous. I've always used the modern "bloodless" kind, though I'm not a devotee of any particular brand or style. But something makes me long for the days when shaving was an important daily ritual, something a man did to put his best face forward, even if he wasn't a matinee idol. Perhaps I'm just getting old.
I was traveling last year and forgot the fancy kind, so the hotel I was staying at gave me one of the 10-for-a-dollar disposables. By the time I finished shaving with it, I looked and felt like Edward Scissorhands had had his way with me. That confirmed for me that it was worth using the more expensive kind. I can get multiple shaves out of one cartridge, so the cost difference is not that much anyway. I admit that my skin may not be as rugged and tough as HudsonHawk's, though.
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If I could avoid shaving all together, I probably would. Since I can't (due to wifely restrictions and job/appearance related issues), I use the cheap bic disposables that the gym provides. They seem to work fine.
Maybe a couple of times a year, I'll go to a barber shop and have a straight razor shave.
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I love this quote:
"It's easier to buy uranium," Mr. Meyers says. "They're so expensive, they have to keep them locked up, and that's when I realized what a gimmick all of it is."
I started using the safety razors too, then bouncing around to whatever came free with howevermanyblades etc.
When my dad was sick he could only use an electric razor. I inherited his and used it as a connection to him and found that I liked it ok enough - the shave isn't as close but I don't ever cut myself. It's also faster and I don't have to mess with shaving cream. Now I use an electric four or five days a week and when I skip a day or the closeness just doesn't seem good enough, I'll come back with the Fusion or whatever the hell it is on the sink. A four-pack of cartridges and a can of cream will last me for several months that way.
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I was traveling last year and forgot the fancy kind, so the hotel I was staying at gave me one of the 10-for-a-dollar disposables. By the time I finished shaving with it, I looked and felt like Edward Scissorhands had had his way with me. That confirmed for me that it was worth using the more expensive kind. I can get multiple shaves out of one cartridge, so the cost difference is not that much anyway. I admit that my skin may not be as rugged and tough as HudsonHawk's, though.
Actually, due to my European bloodlines, I have rather sensitive skin, but am cursed/blessed with a rather light-colored beard. Which means I can go a day without shaving, but then it's tougher to shave a 2 or 3 day stubble. I can usually get 8-10 shaves out of the cheap razors, but would probably be better served if I only tried to get two or three. I also shave in the shower, which makes it considerably more more convenient and comfortable.
At any rate, I'm with Zipp...I'd never shave except for a few things...most notably the beard. The only thing I hate worse than shaving is growing a full beard.
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If I could avoid shaving all together, I probably would.
I agree with this. I hate shaving, but I hate to be unshaven. I normally use an electric razor.
A month or two ago we went to Galveston, and I took a niece and nephew down to the beach, assuming their parents were joining us in short order. Of course, they didn't, and I ended up being out there all day. Without sunscreen. Yes, stupid. I ended up with a really bad burn (why do you never feel it when it's happening?), and couldn't shave (or walk, really) for about 10 days, and was quite hirsute. Rather than go through the hell of a razor, I used Nair for the face, and let me tell you that shit works. I didn't have to shave again for a week.
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I love this quote:
I started using the safety razors too, then bouncing around to whatever came free with howevermanyblades etc.
When my dad was sick he could only use an electric razor. I inherited his and used it as a connection to him and found that I liked it ok enough - the shave isn't as close but I don't ever cut myself. It's also faster and I don't have to mess with shaving cream. Now I use an electric four or five days a week and when I skip a day or the closeness just doesn't seem good enough, I'll come back with the Fusion or whatever the hell it is on the sink. A four-pack of cartridges and a can of cream will last me for several months that way.
While I understand the need for your dad to use an electric, and your subsequent need for the connection...anyone who uses an electric shaver by choice should have his man card revoked. It's like "smoking" a brisket in the oven. There are some things that just aren't right.
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I hate the suped-up razors. I use the Mach 3, because I don't like the cheap disposables and it's got the fewest blades 'n' crap on it for readily available razors. It's still impossible to shave well under the nose because of the large "forehead" caused by the totally pointless lubrication strip. Why does it need a lubrication strip when I buy shaving gel?
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While I understand the need for your dad to use an electric, and your subsequent need for the connection...anyone who uses an electric shaver by choice should have his man card revoked.
No, it's about expediency. I don't want to dick around with shaving cream and blades and all that crap. I just want to shave quickly and be done with it.
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No, it's about expediency. I don't want to dick around with shaving cream and blades and all that crap. I just want to shave quickly and be done with it.
Like "smoking" a brisket in the oven. Jeez. I bet you even let your wife use your grill, don't you? Or sit in your La-Z-Boy? You have to squat to piss too, don't you?
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I was traveling last year and forgot the fancy kind, so the hotel I was staying at gave me one of the 10-for-a-dollar disposables. By the time I finished shaving with it, I looked and felt like Edward Scissorhands had had his way with me. That confirmed for me that it was worth using the more expensive kind. I can get multiple shaves out of one cartridge, so the cost difference is not that much anyway. I admit that my skin may not be as rugged and tough as HudsonHawk's, though.
Hudson balms his face with cheap scotch when he's done. He's one tough mo-fo.
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A four-pack of cartridges and a can of cream will last me for several months that way.
TWSS
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Like "smoking" a brisket in the oven. Jeez. I bet you even let your wife use your grill, don't you? Or sit in your La-Z-Boy? You have to squat to piss too, don't you?
I don't do brisket, that's what my brother in law is for.
The wife can do what she wants.
I don't have a lazy boy.
I do not squat.
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Hudson balms his face with cheap scotch when he's done. He's one tough mo-fo.
Speak for yourself...nothing but the best single malt for me. I'm not a cave man.
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The wife can do what she wants.
This, this right here is the problem. Nothing is sacred anymore.
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I must have some weak ass facial hair, because I can use one of those 3 blade razors for a month+ before I switch it out. That free razor Gillette sent me when I turned 18 (anyone else curious where they got your name, address and birthday?) was a marketing success, though. I've never felt the need to try something else.
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While I understand the need for your dad to use an electric, and your subsequent need for the connection...anyone who uses an electric shaver by choice should have his man card revoked. It's like "smoking" a brisket in the oven. There are some things that just aren't right.
Full disclosure: the ex-Mrs Limey hated that I would get foam residue and occasionally blood on the towels when I shaved. Towels are a scarce and precious resource, so electric was the compromise. By compromise, I mean I did what she wanted because arguing the toss on everything gets boring.
The ease and convenience of an electric razor is obvious. As obvious as my 5 o'clock shadow that kicked in just after lunch.
I wet shave now. And use baby seals to wipe my face after.
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Nothing is sacred anymore.
Not a fucking thing.
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Full disclosure: the ex-Mrs Limey hated that I would get foam residue and occasionally blood on the towels when I shaved. Towels are a scarce and precious resource, so electric was the compromise. By compromise, I mean I did what she wanted because arguing the toss on everything gets boring.
The ease and convenience of an electric razor is obvious. As obvious as my 5 o'clock shadow that kicked in just after lunch.
I wet shave now. And use baby seals to wipe my face after.
I look at it more as the result rather than the process. Whatever it takes to get shaven as quickly as possible is what works. I do not suffer from 5 o'clock shadow however.
Unless one is a draffan:
DRAFFAN (n.)
An infuriating person who always manages to look much more dashing that anyone else by turning up unshaven and hungover at a formal party.
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Which means I can go a day without shaving
I don't see why anybody shaves every day. Humans are clearly not meant to do this, and so you're just begging for perpetual nicks, cuts, and calloused skin if you do it. And it seems to me that the cosmetic advantage is pretty negligible. but that's just me i guess.
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I am a 4-blade user. I echo the comments that the disposables absolutely tore me up, and so the fancy razor made me happy.
What made me even happier, though, was getting a shaving brush to apply the cream. That shit will make you feel like a billionaire.
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Full disclosure: the ex-Mrs Limey hated that I would get foam residue and occasionally blood on the towels when I shaved. Towels are a scarce and precious resource, so electric was the compromise.
Did you have a whole set of towels that you weren't allowed to touch...that were just there for decoration, not absorption?
By compromise, I mean I did what she wanted
*Sigh*.
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I don't see why anybody shaves every day. Humans are clearly not meant to do this, and so you're just begging for perpetual nicks, cuts, and calloused skin if you do it. And it seems to me that the cosmetic advantage is pretty negligible. but that's just me i guess.
Having seen your face, I'm not surprised by your feelings.
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By compromise, I mean I did what she wanted
Is there an alternative definition?
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I'm with Jim on this – the rare occasion when I'm forced to go with a cheap disposable feels like I'm carving my face up with broken glass. Maybe it's the lack of mass, maybe it's the torn pieces of coke cans that they use for blades, but it always seems like I'm clawing the stubble out of my skin, not shaving it off. Gimme 18 titanium, laser-honed , teflon-coated, gel-infused blades in a single cartridge, thankyouverymuch.
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I don't see why anybody shaves every day. Humans are clearly not meant to do this, and so you're just begging for perpetual nicks, cuts, and calloused skin if you do it. And it seems to me that the cosmetic advantage is pretty negligible. but that's just me i guess.
Damn dirty hippie.
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I don't see why anybody shaves every day. Humans are clearly not meant to do this, and so you're just begging for perpetual nicks, cuts, and calloused skin if you do it. And it seems to me that the cosmetic advantage is pretty negligible. but that's just me i guess.
After about 36 hours since my last shave, my beard is as scratchy as Pinhead's (http://bshistorian.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/pinhead2.jpg), which doesn't bother me at that point but it bothers anyone who comes into contact with it. By 48 hours it's becoming uncomfortable to me.
I sported a full beard for a few years back in my early twenties. That was back in the 80s so I also had hair - which I grew full and long. Something akin to this (http://mixtapemaestro.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/michael-mcdonald.jpg). The not shaving element of having a beard was joyous. I had a trimmer to keep it kempt, and I only had to tidy up the neckline every once in a while. However, "soup catcher" is not an undeserved monicker.
Shaving it off was a near-orgasmic experience.
BTW, I wonder about those of you with goatees. Is it that you want the itchiness of a beard without the freedom from shaving? The worst of both worlds?
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What's amazing about this thread is that it's comfortably on to page 2, and yet no one has yet mentioned Orlando Palmeiro.
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That free razor Gillette sent me when I turned 18 (anyone else curious where they got your name, address and birthday?) was a marketing success, though.
It's a genius marketing move and a shame they don't do it anymore. When P&G bought Gillette a few years ago, the suits at P&G decided it wasn't worth the expense to continue that time honored tradition.
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What's amazing about this thread is that it's comfortably on to page 2, and yet no one has yet mentioned Orlando Palmeiro.
Pabst Blue Ribbon!
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I shave 3 days a week on average so the Sensor Excel blades I buy by the 30-pack at Sam's can last 2 weeks or more, if properly treated. I could probably use the disposables, as long as they're 2 blades, but I splurge. So the ~$60 I spend on the 30-pack lasts about a year. I'd say that's OK value.
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BTW, I wonder about those of you with goatees. Is it that you want the itchiness of a beard without the freedom from shaving? The worst of both worlds?
I've always wondered the same thing. Goatees seem like a huge pain in the ass.
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BTW, I wonder about those of you with goatees. Is it that you want the itchiness of a beard without the freedom from shaving? The worst of both worlds?
*icy, withering death stare, lasting at least 10 unblinking minutes*
Regards,
The New Hitting Coach
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I must have some weak ass facial hair, because I can use one of those 3 blade razors for a month+ before I switch it out. That free razor Gillette sent me when I turned 18 (anyone else curious where they got your name, address and birthday?) was a marketing success, though. I've never felt the need to try something else.
I always assumed either the DMV or the Selective Service sold that information to various marketers.
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*icy, withering death stare, lasting at least 10 unblinking minutes*
Regards,
The New Hitting Coach
That's not a goatee (http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0331/pg2_g_bagwell_400.jpg)
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While I understand the need for your dad to use an electric, and your subsequent need for the connection...anyone who uses an electric shaver by choice should have his man card revoked. It's like "smoking" a brisket in the oven. There are some things that just aren't right.
I got over the romance of shaving a long, long time ago. I'd rather get the hell on to the Courvoisier with my life than stand there and admire the skillful application of razor to skin.
"Smoking" brisket in the oven is just roast. Have you seen this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WA3sSaDi9k)?
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I'm with Jim on this – the rare occasion when I'm forced to go with a cheap disposable feels like I'm carving my face up with broken glass. Maybe it's the lack of mass, maybe it's the torn pieces of coke cans that they use for blades, but it always seems like I'm clawing the stubble out of my skin, not shaving it off. Gimme 18 titanium, laser-honed , teflon-coated, gel-infused blades in a single cartridge, thankyouverymuch.
I'm with you 100%. There are never enough annoying corners of toilet paper to cover my face when I'm done shaving with a disposable. I'm a gillette mach 3 turbo in the shower shaver.
My dad always uses the disposables, and he's a much swarthier man then me. I haven't the foggiest idea how he manages to pull it off and retain his skin at the same time.
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I've always wondered the same thing. Goatees seem like a huge pain in the ass.
When I had a Van Dyke, it was for a few purposes...
a) I liked the way it looked
b) The wife liked the way it looked
c) It hid my double chin very effectively
As far as maintenance, my face doesn't itch when I have facial hair, so that was never a problem for me. It just made my chin one less thing I had to shave.
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I'm with you 100%. There are never enough annoying corners of toilet paper to cover my face when I'm done shaving with a disposable. I'm a gillette mach 3 turbo in the shower shaver.
My dad always uses the disposables, and he's a much swarthier man then me. I haven't the foggiest idea how he manages to pull it off and retain his skin at the same time.
Never go against the grain, and accept that "smooth" isn't going to be part of the adjective set. Repeat tomorrow.
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That's not a goatee (http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0331/pg2_g_bagwell_400.jpg)
You're right: that's a full-fledged goat.
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DRAFFAN (n.)
An infuriating person who always manages to look much more dashing that anyone else by turning up unshaven and hungover at a formal party.
Not to hijack my own thread, but this reminds me of something else that really grinds my gears....young men who show up at a job interview not having shaved in three days. That three day stubble may make you appear more dashing, dancing, hip, hop or cool at the local club on Friday night, but in an office environment, it makes you appear lazy.
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Not to hijack my own thread, but this reminds me of something else that really grinds my gears....young men who show up at a job interview not having shaved in three days. That three day stubble may make you appear more dashing, dancing, hip, hop or cool at the local club on Friday night, but in an office environment, it makes you appear lazy.
And jobless. Unless bartender / flunky is all you're looking for.
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Since I still keep a full beard (one that has, mysteriously, decided that this was the year to start going grey. Yay!), the electric razor is the most practical thing I could possibly think of. I literally spend 30 seconds shaving every day. Sure it's not as close as a real razor, but I also don't have to do the whole cream kabuki thing just to carve up 10% of my face.
And I'm with Zipp: if you haven't had a real barber shave in the past year, you owe yourself one. It feels like your face got a hug from Victoria's Secret model.
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Not to hijack my own thread, but this reminds me of something else that really grinds my gears....young men who show up at a job interview not having shaved in three days.
Wow. You guys are still interviewing people for jobs?
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BTW, I wonder about those of you with goatees. Is it that you want the itchiness of a beard without the freedom from shaving? The worst of both worlds?
Because my wife wants me to have a goatee.
I have no solid chin, and a baby face. The goatee helps cover up the chin and my wife hates my face....something like that.
I also am lucky in that I don't grow much facial hair. I couldn't grow a full beard if I wanted to. Advantage: me. I only have to shave about once every 5-7 days, and any cheap razor works because the hair is so thin.
My wife, ever the accountant, found that it is cheaper to buy the razors that come with an extra pack of blades than to actually buy the replacement blades for the existing razor. They want to get you hooked on the razor and charge you a ton for replacement blades.
Of course, I only have to get a new pack once every couple of years since I don't wear out the blades with my weak facial hair and I only shave about 52 times a year. I would hate having to shave more.
Downside? I have had the barber do a nice straight razor shave on me before, and it is heaven, but hardly worth the money for me because there is so little to shave.
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I've always wondered the same thing. Goatees seem like a huge pain in the ass.
Goatees do not itch. At all. The itchy part of the bear is the cheeks and the neck, not the chin.
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When I had a Van Dyke, it was for a few purposes...
a) I liked the way it looked
b) The wife liked the way it looked
c) It hid my double chin very effectively
As far as maintenance, my face doesn't itch when I have facial hair, so that was never a problem for me. It just made my chin one less thing I had to shave.
This is a good point. I have a buddy who has had a goatee or beard of some kind continuously since about 1993. At some point, I asked him if he was ever going to shave that ridiculous facemuff off. He told me he couldn't, because then we wouldn't know where his actual chin was.
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Goatees do not itch. At all. The itchy part of the bear is the cheeks and the neck, not the chin.
Sometimes you itch the bear, and sometimes the bear itches you.
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"Smoking" brisket in the oven is just roast. Have you seen this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WA3sSaDi9k)?
I've only made it a minute in. Wow. This needs a new thread.
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I also am lucky in that I don't grow much facial hair. I couldn't grow a full beard if I wanted to. Advantage: me. I only have to shave about once every 5-7 days, and any cheap razor works because the hair is so thin.
I believe my beard shares 99% of its DNA with bamboo.
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My wife, ever the accountant, found that it is cheaper to buy the razors that come with an extra pack of blades than to actually buy the replacement blades for the existing razor. They want to get you hooked on the razor and charge you a ton for replacement blades.
This is my trick. That and I use the same razorblade for 4 months at a time.
Wow. You guys are still interviewing people for jobs?
Many parts of the oil bidness are counter-cyclical.
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Wow. You guys are still interviewing people for jobs?
Yep...but only young slackers fresh out of school. Hence the plethora of three day beards, untucked shirts, and sandals at the interviews.
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I've only made it a minute in. Wow. This needs a new thread.
Peanuts. Greasy fistfulls of brown sugar. And the magic ingredient of bread crumbs. Got 'em cheap.
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Peanuts. Greasy fistfulls of brown sugar. And the magic ingredient of bread crumbs. Got 'em cheap.
YouTube comment of the day award...
"Would you like to report this video as inappropriate?"
HELL YES, I would. I am not sure what I just witnessed... were you drunk? Bread crumbs? Peanuts? WhatTheF...
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sandals
this bugs me. If you're going to the beach or the pool, flip flops are fine. If you're not, and you're still wearing flip flops, you're kind of a pussy. Since we're on the subject of man cards, that revokes it as far as I'm concerned. Also wearing any jewelry other than a wedding ring or watch.
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Peanuts. Greasy fistfulls of brown sugar. And the magic ingredient of bread crumbs. Got 'em cheap.
At 3 minutes in, I am writing to youtube to ban this video. Someone may actually believe this and try it.
ETA: YouTube comment of the day award...
I see I am not the only one.
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this bugs me. If you're going to the beach or the pool, flip flops are fine. If you're not, and you're still wearing flip flops, you're kind of a pussy. Since we're on the subject of man cards, that revokes it as far as I'm concerned. Also wearing any jewelry other than a wedding ring or watch.
I had a philosophy prof who wore a suit with sandals. He'd lecture with one foot up on his desk, as if he were daring us to snicker at his sartorial choices. It was enjoyable to watch him eviscerate those who didn't bring a good game when they questioned him though.
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Yep...but only young slackers fresh out of school. Hence the plethora of three day beards, untucked shirts, and sandals at the interviews.
You're missing the point. They are interviewing you, to see whether you are worthy of their services.
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Also wearing any jewelry other than a wedding ring or watch.
Not an Aggie, I see. Nothing wrong with a class ring, or even a little bling. But you should never be wearing more jewelry than your woman. Period.
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And get that god damn stickpin out of your nose. Unless it whistles during the interview, in which case you might as well leave now.
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You're missing the point. They are interviewing you, to see whether you are worthy of their services.
I swear to God most of them think this way. The first thing on their mind is what is the company going to do for me?
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~8.5 minutes in. He puts the juice in the dogs bowl with some food...and the dog growls at the bowl. There are certain things in life that can tell you that you messed up the food. This is one of them.
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~8.5 minutes in. He puts the juice in the dogs bowl with some food...and the dog growls at the bowl. There are certain things in life that can tell you that you messed up the food. This is one of them.
Exactly. This has got to be a joke. His pit looks like he might be able to do some good work (Sans peanuts, cactus, carrots etc).
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Two comments. First on goatees, I have one because my wife likes it, plus it allowed me to avoid regular shaving in the two areas I usually nick myself or get razor burn - upper lip and chin. It was a win-win.
Second, I change out blades every two weeks, shaving 4-5 times a week. I used to use them for a month and then I got a staph infection on my jaw, which my doctor attributed to a dirty blade. If you've never had a staph infection, you don't want one. I could not explain why I was falling asleep by 4pm, every day, no matter which day, or would periodically run a low grade fever for a day and then be fine, or so I thought. After that, while annoyed by the never-ending inflated costs of replacement blades, I stopped worrying about the cost, as using a dirty - even if you don't realize - razor can cost more than cash (that's my PSA for the day). Oh, and I also shave in the shower and use scalding hot water to rinse off my razors when I am finished.
I used to see an infomercials for a device that could clean and sharpen disposable blades. I've been curious about buying one to see if it actually does what they say it will. If so, it would seem to be a good way to prolong the life of the disposable cartridge blades.
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~8.5 minutes in. He puts the juice in the dogs bowl with some food...and the dog growls at the bowl. There are certain things in life that can tell you that you messed up the food. This is one of them.
I don't know if that's what happens when you live in Big Bend, or if you live in Big Bend because you're that guy. The living quarters are straight out of any mass murderer flick you choose as well.
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Exactly. This has got to be a joke. His pit looks like he might be able to do some good work (Sans peanuts, cactus, carrots etc).
At 5:45 in, he compares this to seducing a woman. If you call buying her a pack of Nabs out of the vending machine, then pissing on her shoes "seduction", then yeah, it's exactly the same.
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Exactly. This has got to be a joke. His pit looks like he might be able to do some good work (Sans peanuts, cactus, carrots etc).
The pit did look like it could be nice.
Beer: Natural Lite, Busch Lite, Lone Star Lite...any others?
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I swear to God most of them think this way. The first thing on their mind is what is the company going to do for me?
We've hired twice since moving the business to NY. I have to say, while we do tend to get an overall better selection of candidate than we did hiring for the same jobs in Houston, it just fucking amazes me that some people come into the interview with this attitude.
One woman wasn't going to talk availability outside of the office until I gave her a "better answer" on what the benefits were.
Look, lady. We're a business. We're here to make ME rich. Your job is to do what I say/ask/need and in return I pay you the money I offered in the ad. There will be benefits because I'm not a dick. You'll get health care, you'll get dental, you'll get vision, there is a VERY generous pension. If you're really just taking this job because of the specifics on those things, and can't bother telling me if "carrying a Blackberry is ok" until I give those details I will set you on fire.
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At 5:45 in, he compares this to seducing a woman. If you call buying her a pack of Nabs out of the vending machine, then pissing on her shoes "seduction", then yeah, it's exactly the same.
And the beer selection. He's got 4 Coors Light emptie and one Lone Star. That's just messed up.
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Oh, and I also shave in the shower and use scalding hot water to rinse off my razors when I am finished.
Just a tip for those who suffer razor burn...use cold water to shave. As cold as you can stand it. It tightens the skin and will reduce razor burn.
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Oh, and I also shave in the shower and use scalding hot water to rinse off my razors when I am finished.
I shave over the sink, but I make sure to heat my face and the blade(s) with hot water before starting. Warm metal/skin is always more malleable than cold metal/skin, and thus less likely to yield nicks. I rinse off the razor with hot water afterwards, but use cold water to rinse my face as that helps close up the pores.
It's a highly technical process.
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There will be benefits because I'm not a dick.
Whoa, whoa, whoa...
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BTW, I wonder about those of you with goatees. Is it that you want the itchiness of a beard without the freedom from shaving? The worst of both worlds?
Women like goatees.
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The pit did look like it could be nice.
I expected to see a hand in there, or a tennis shoe, or a burnt piece of blue jeans.
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If you've never had a staph infection, you don't want one. I could not explain why I was falling asleep by 4pm, every day, no matter which day, or would periodically run a low grade fever for a day and then be fine, or so I thought.
Holy shit, is that what's happening to me?
What are the other symptoms? How did you cure it? How did you get it diagnosed?
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Women like goatees.
NOW I find this out.
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I expected to see a hand in there, or a tennis shoe, or a burnt piece of blue jeans.
The body was still resting, waiting to be seduced.
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Women like goatees.
the soup catcher variety or trimmed? Or does that depend on the woman in question?
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I don't know if that's what happens when you live in Big Bend, or if you live in Big Bend because you're that guy. The living quarters are straight out of any mass murderer flick you choose as well.
Actually, I dig his digs.
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I "shave" every Saturday or every other Saturday. "Shaving" means I run a beard trimmer over my face. I would say that puts me in the upper half of shaving at my place of employment. Exceptions for weddings which gets the full on razor treatment. I haven't had a job interview in over 11 years, but I imagine that would get the wedding treatment.
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What are the other symptoms?
Cooking brisket with peanuts, carrots, and bread crumbs.
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the soup catcher variety or trimmed? Or does that depend on the woman in question?
Trimmed.
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Cooking brisket with peanuts, carrots, and bread crumbs.
I love the way that he jams the carrots into the pan like a maniac.
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I love the way that he jams the carrots into the pan like a maniac.
For me it's handling the meat, then jamming his hand into the bag of brown sugar and throwing clods of it all over the meat, and tossing the bag of sugar onto the shelf to harden.
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I love the way that he jams the carrots into the pan like a maniac.
Like wooden stakes through the heart of South Texas vampires.
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I love the way that he jams the carrots into the pan like a maniac.
Right when he says he was in construction and the carrots are like.....braces. I can see why he WAS in construction. I kept waiting to hear foundation, floor joists. Nope braces.
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For me it's handling the meat, then jamming his hand into the bag of brown sugar and throwing clods of it all over the meat, and tossing the bag of sugar onto the shelf to harden.
What about how he pours his half bottle of Sweet Baby Ray's into the pan, then rinses it out with water. He then pours the leftovers back into the bottle. I have absolutely no confidence that what he poured out of the bottle the first time was indeed what was indicated on the label.
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What about how he pours his half bottle of Sweet Baby Ray's into the pan, then rinses it out with water. He then pours the leftovers back into the bottle. I have absolutely no confidence that what he poured out of the bottle the first time was indeed what was indicated on the label.
Well, it's probably not the blood of virgins.
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Right when he says he was in construction and the carrots are like.....braces. I can see why he WAS in construction. I kept waiting to hear foundation, floor joists. Nope braces.
"I used to be a carpenter." God help us all, but I'd like to see some of his work.
What about how he pours his half bottle of Sweet Baby Ray's into the pan, then rinses it out with water. He then pours the leftovers back into the bottle. I have absolutely no confidence that what he poured out of the bottle the first time was indeed what was indicated on the label.
After sloshing the meat and his grubby hands around in there. Of course, it's entirely possible that the entire concoction is so toxic that not even bacteria could survive in it.
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Nice use of his shirt as towel, too.
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Holy shit, is that what's happening to me?
What are the other symptoms? How did you cure it? How did you get it diagnosed?
My sarc-o-meter is going off but will answer anyway. First, you may or may not have a detectable rash. It might just itch in a certain spot, my itch was between my jaw and bottom of my ear. I tend to ignore things like that and didn't notice it (and did not for nearly 6 weeks). The fever deal is the other symptom, which as someone with terrible allergies, this can indicate a severe sinus allergy reaction. The other is fatigue, no matter how much sleep or exercise you get. I have never needed more than 6-7hrs of sleep. Slowly but surely, I was sleeping 8-9 hrs and still felt like crap. I was working out, figuring it was work related stress. I felt nice and relaxed, blood pressure was normal etc... and nothing. Two cups of coffee in the afternoon could not keep me awake until 5pm.
I finally went to doctor for another issue and when he asked "anything else you'd like to talk about?", I mentioned it. He spotted the rash immediately, gave me a prescription strength topical antibiotic, an oral antibiotic (cypro -sp? - I believe), and told me to call him if the rash didn't clear up in 2 weeks, or show signs of improving. The risk being it could be a antibiotic resistant staph infection (see Morgan Ensberg).
In the end, it took me 6 weeks to figure out what it was and another 6 weeks for the infection to clear. I'm not exaggerating when I say that is the worst I have ever felt in my entire life. I since found out that my immunse system was suppressed, for other reasons, but have since resolved that as well (apparently, I've had asthma my entire life).
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Alkie obviously doesn't understand the concept of company time and personal time.HH?
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Women like goatees.
But some of us do like a clean shaven man with a good aftershave. ummm.
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I guess I'm just one of the lucky ones, my beard doesn't itch me at all. The only time my face itches is after shaving.
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Alkie obviously doesn't understand the concept of company time and personal time.HH?
No, no, that's not right at all. I give the same speech; my time is mine, your time is yours. We don't do company parties, we don't do happy hours. Once it's 5pm, you go home and be with your family.
Because of the nature of this business, if a client asks a question or has a problem, we have to be able to answer fairly immediately. I'm happy to give time off, let you work from home, you don't ever work nights or weekends, but if you want to work here you have to know that a client may want a yes/no answer at 7pm on a Friday and you'll be expected to take the whopping 4 seconds to email them back. If you consider that crossing the line between corp time and biz time, no problemo, go make 60% working somewhere else where you can punch a clock, turn off your brain, and do your time, clock out at 5 and go hit the BudLight.
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Alkie obviously doesn't understand the concept of company time and personal time.HH?
As long as he understands that one should be compensated for "company time", then I'd say he understands it perfectly.
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As long as he understands that one should be compensated for "company time", then I'd say he understands it perfectly.
We have two employees with essentially the same job. One has a blackberry, one doesn't.
Blackberry makes $75k. Non blackberry makes $60k. That's the only difference.
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We have two employees with essentially the same job. One has a blackberry, one doesn't.
Blackberry makes $75k. Non blackberry makes $60k. That's the only difference.
I have a blackberry, and am VERY interested in your newsletter!
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But some of us do like a clean shaven man with a good aftershave. ummm.
True. The question was posed to men who sport goatees--Why do they have one? Usually it is because his woman likes that look and feel on her man.
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I have a blackberry, and am VERY interested in your newsletter!
Right, I should have pointed out he has to actually do other work, not just possess the Blackberry at all times.
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I wouldbe willing to carry 15 blackberrys - can you price that out.
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I wouldbe willing to carry 15 blackberrys - can you price that out.
Send a video of yourself working a cock like a 53 year old 7-out-of-10 to [email protected]
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Right, I should have pointed out he has to actually do other work, not just possess the Blackberry at all times.
Dear Sir/Madam,
Please unsubscribe me.
Sincerely,
Mark
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Two comments. First on goatees, I have one because my wife likes it, plus it allowed me to avoid regular shaving in the two areas I usually nick myself or get razor burn - upper lip and chin. It was a win-win.
Second, I change out blades every two weeks, shaving 4-5 times a week. I used to use them for a month and then I got a staph infection on my jaw, which my doctor attributed to a dirty blade. If you've never had a staph infection, you don't want one. I could not explain why I was falling asleep by 4pm, every day, no matter which day, or would periodically run a low grade fever for a day and then be fine, or so I thought. After that, while annoyed by the never-ending inflated costs of replacement blades, I stopped worrying about the cost, as using a dirty - even if you don't realize - razor can cost more than cash (that's my PSA for the day). Oh, and I also shave in the shower and use scalding hot water to rinse off my razors when I am finished.
I used to see an infomercials for a device that could clean and sharpen disposable blades. I've been curious about buying one to see if it actually does what they say it will. If so, it would seem to be a good way to prolong the life of the disposable cartridge blades.
You are NOT suspose to use you wifes razor....ever.
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We have two employees with essentially the same job. One has a blackberry, one doesn't.
Blackberry makes $75k. Non blackberry makes $60k. That's the only difference.
If you're only paying $60K for a position that needs a blackberry, perhaps you're not such a great deal after all.
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If you're only paying $60K for a position that needs a blackberry, perhaps you're not such a great deal after all.
Also I've never been able to figure out how someone lives in new york in normal jobs; are you hiring homeless?
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If you're only paying $60K for a position that needs a blackberry, perhaps you're not such a great deal after all.
No, I am.
I'm worth it baby.
The guy without the blackberry is under the understanding that he is grossly overpaid for where he lives (Connecticut) but grossly underpaid for where he works (Midtown Manhattan) because he's allowed to check out mentally from 5pm to 9am and on weekends. The other guy get an extra $15k because he made a point of asking for a Blackberry so he could always be in touch and not feel like work is backing up on him.
Guess which one is getting the promotion in August.
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Also I've never been able to figure out how someone lives in new york in normal jobs; are you hiring homeless?
The guy making $60k lives in Stamford, Connecticut, which is one step up from homeless. At least that's what they tell me, I've never been there and don't care to find out.
There's no fucking way he could live comfortably in Manhattan with a wife and two kids on $60k. Queens, sure. Brooklyn, maybe. Connecticut, easy.
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And again, the real point here was...if you go into an interview asking what the company can do for you, the boss will hate you and put no trust in you.
The guy who came in asking if I'd LET him have a blackberry was already up for a promotion the day I hired him.
What's wrong with the kids today?
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We have two employees with essentially the same job. One has a blackberry, one doesn't.
Blackberry makes $75k. Non blackberry makes $60k. That's the only difference.
How much would you pay somebody with an iPhone?
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How much would you pay somebody with an iPhone?
Why would I be hiring someone that lives in California?
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By the way, Zipp, I don't know how you fucking do it.
It's bad enough running HR on a small scale for 5 people.
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I also shave in the shower, which makes it considerably more more convenient and comfortable.
I do this, too, for the same reasons. I also brush my teeth in there. Onced I'm done with my shower, I'm pretty much ready to roll.
I have a moderate beard (or I would if I didn't shave) but apparently resilient skin. I don't use a mirror, or gel or cream - just lathered up Dial soap. My wife buys these disposable razors, but they're pretty nice for disposable, if you don't mind the pastel colors. I'll grab one of those out of the pack, and it will last me a couple of weeks. Twin blades, nice close shave, rarely a nick or scratch or burn.
Everybody knows you can sharpen used blades if you place them under a pyramid. But it's a lot of trouble to fly all the way over there, evade the guards and shit, and then tunnel up under one of those fuckers, just to sharpen your razor blades. It may be cheaper to just buy replacements.
Remember the Don Johnson-Miami Vice-day old stubble look that was in style for about three months somewhere back in the 1980s? One of the few times popular trends were in line with my personal preferences. I've been clean-shaven for years, though. I've got an extremely handsome face; plus, contrary to what you may have heard, there are a lot of women who do not like facial hair, and especially stubble. . . especially when you are regularly engaging in certain activities with them. Which I quite enjoy doing, as often as possible, so I shave dutifully, every fucking day' sometimes twice a day if I'm going out.
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What's wrong with the kids today?
I've interviewed more than one college grad who asked how long before they got 6 weeks of vacation. Mind you, this is not someone with 15 years experience, who's already *got* 4 weeks, being asked to give it up to come work for my company...but someone who's never had a job before basically asking how many months they have to work before they get to take a month and half off...with pay.
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I've got an extremely handsome face
Yes, yes you do. You're also a very handsome man.
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By the way, Zipp, I don't know how you fucking do it.
It's bad enough running HR on a small scale for 5 people.
I drink a lot.
Thankfully, I don't deal in recruiting anymore, and that's half the headaches right there.
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I've interviewed more than one college grad who asked how long before they got 6 weeks of vacation. Mind you, this is not someone with 15 years experience, who's already *got* 4 weeks, being asked to give it up to come work for my company...but someone who's never had a job before basically asking how many months they have to work before they get to take a month and half off...with pay.
I'm telling ya, man. Even in this job market, we got some of the dumbest fucking questions. Same shit. How much vacation time is there? ONE WOMAN, I love this, comes in and tells me she needs (no shit) 7 of the first 20 days off for trips she already had planned. Then she got ANGRY when I asked "do you do this every month?"
I get that you want to actually know these things. Time off, sick pay, benefits, etc. That's fine. But for crissakes, do a LITTLE giving here before we start talking taking.
The other one I like is the people who send in resumes with "cover emails" that are written in internet shorthand. If U can't bother typing the extra Y and O to get a JB, U can't have 1 here.
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I've interviewed more than one college grad who asked how long before they got 6 weeks of vacation. Mind you, this is not someone with 15 years experience, who's already *got* 4 weeks, being asked to give it up to come work for my company...but someone who's never had a job before basically asking how many months they have to work before they get to take a month and half off...with pay.
My favorite is the college new hires trying to figure out when the company's spring break is, and if it syncs up with their friends' spring breaks.
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I drink a lot.
I will assume that is not a joke.
Thankfully, I don't deal in recruiting anymore, and that's half the headaches right there.
I'm sure. But even past that. Just dealing with all the psychology of individuals within a team and juggling compensation and benefits and who comes and who goes and when that is and who is pregnant or may become so in the near future.
HR is easily the least favorite part of owning the place. Any place. It was worse when we had a restaurant.
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My favorite is the college new hires trying to figure out when the company's spring break is, and if it syncs up with their friends' spring breaks.
That. Is awesome.
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The other one I like is the people who send in resumes with "cover emails" that are written in internet shorthand. If U can't bother typing the extra Y and O to get a JB, U can't have 1 here.
I've never received one of those, but typos and grammatical mistakes are everywhere. I've had more than one person who misspelled their name on their resume.
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I'm telling ya, man. Even in this job market, we got some of the dumbest fucking questions. Same shit. How much vacation time is there? ONE WOMAN, I love this, comes in and tells me she needs (no shit) 7 of the first 20 days off for trips she already had planned. Then she got ANGRY when I asked "do you do this every month?"
I get that you want to actually know these things. Time off, sick pay, benefits, etc. That's fine. But for crissakes, do a LITTLE giving here before we start talking taking.
The other one I like is the people who send in resumes with "cover emails" that are written in internet shorthand. If U can't bother typing the extra Y and O to get a JB, U can't have 1 here.
How hard is it to understand, the benefits questions should happen post offer, pre acceptance? It's just fucking basic.
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My favorite is the college new hires trying to figure out when the company's spring break is, and if it syncs up with their friends' spring breaks.
Unless you're a student or a teacher, Spring Break doesn't exist for you. You got that BizidyDizidy?
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How hard is it to understand, the benefits questions should happen post offer, pre acceptance? It's just fucking basic.
How hard is it to just extend an offer, rather than asking the candidate "if an offer is extended to you, are you willing to take it?"
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Unless you're a student or a teacher, Spring Break doesn't exist for you.
Sure it does. It's called "Opening Thursday and Friday of March Madness". Except that they may have screwed that up now.
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My favorite is the college new hires trying to figure out when the company's spring break is, and if it syncs up with their friends' spring breaks.
You just crossed the line into "now you're just bullshitting me." There is no possible way someone asked that.
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HR is easily the least favorite part of owning the place. Any place. It was worse when we had a restaurant.
Outsource it.
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How hard is it to understand, the benefits questions should happen post offer, pre acceptance? It's just fucking basic.
It is not nearly as annoying as what you guys are talking about, but do you get applicants who never ask about the benfits? Or even ask specifics about compensation, perks, etc.? That always bothers me a little.
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How hard is it to understand, the benefits questions should happen post offer, pre acceptance? It's just fucking basic.
Exactly. I mean even I knew that coming out of college and I was exactly the selfish, me-first turd I'm railing against now.
Dance, monkey. If I like your jig, we can talk compensation.
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Outsource it.
Oh I tried to. Those thieves want 25% of the first year salary for each employee. So let's see, I can give up 20% (roughly) of this year's revenues or do it myself and complain on SnS. Easy call.
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How hard is it to just extend an offer, rather than asking the candidate "if an offer is extended to you, are you willing to take it?"
See, that kind of bullshit would demonstrate to me that I probably don't want to work for that company.
On the other hand, it's not exactly a sellers market these days. If you NEED a job, I would expect to put up with a certain amount of this crap.
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I've never received one of those, but typos and grammatical mistakes are everywhere. I've had more than one person who misspelled their name on their resume.
Yes. Yes yes.
Again, you have to understand that it's not even just ANY job you're applying for, we make it clear in our ads that we're hiring for a documents position that will require impeccable grammar and spelling. These forms are not only going to the government for approval, they will become disclosure documents for multimillion dollar managers. Take 15 seconds and proof your fucking resume.
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Oh I tried to. Those thieves want 25% of the first year salary for each employee. So let's see, I can give up 20% (roughly) of this year's revenues or do it myself and complain on SnS. Easy call.
BPO is an awesome business...for the sales people.
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BPO is an awesome business...for the sales people.
Yes. The two insanely hot women who visited me in my office to sell me the service looked very happy.
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Yes. The two insanely hot women who visited me in my office to sell me the service looked very happy.
Before or after the visit?
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My current rant about "the young people these days" is .... get a professional email address. I am unlikely to hire princess69. [email protected] will work dandy and might get you an interview.
Oh and make sure you put the new company name in the cover letter you are reusing from the last job you applied for and didn't get.
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I can never think of things to say in interviews, so I always ask about the benefits. I don't really care about them, but I always ask to kill time.
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I am unlikely to hire princess69.
Wait a minute. What was the rest of her email address?
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My current rant about "the young people these days" is .... get a professional email address. I am unlikely to hire princess69. [email protected] will work dandy and might get you an interview.
Oh and make sure you put the new company name in the cover letter you are reusing from the last job you applied for and didn't get.
Ugh. Yes. We got one that was [email protected]. Look, you want to do the religion thing, right on. That's all you. But that's being a wee bit presumptuous when looking for a job doncha think?
And the cover letter thing drives me nuts too. I stopped asking for a formal cover letter and just said "email me a paragraph about why you think you'd actually enjoy this job." It gets the exact same bullshit answer, but in a single para.
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Before or after the visit?
Before.
I didn't hire them and they were both sporting huge rocks.
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How hard is it to just extend an offer, rather than asking the candidate "if an offer is extended to you, are you willing to take it?"
When does that happen?
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they were both sporting huge rocks.
Trannys?
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Trannys?
If they were, it was convincing. They were both young, tan, fantastic to look at, and very very married to bankers.
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When does that happen?
It happened all the time when I was job hunting right out of college. It's like folks were scared of asking for fear of getting turned down. "If I asked you to go to the prom with me, would you say yes?"
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You are NOT suspose to use you wifes razor....ever.
My ex would "borrow" my razor, destroy the blade, then put it back. I wouldn't know until I'd flayed my cheek wide open with the first swipe of the razor the next morning.
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It happened all the time when I was job hunting right out of college. It's like folks were scared of asking for fear of getting turned down. "If I asked you to go to the prom with me, would you say yes?"
Really? I've never seen that. I've seen "here are the job requirements...any heartburn before we go further?" type of thing, but not "if I asked you would you say yes".
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Ugh. Yes. We got one that was [email protected]. Look, you want to do the religion thing, right on. That's all you. But that's being a wee bit presumptuous when looking for a job doncha think?
So that's who still uses aol.
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Really? I've never seen that. I've seen "here are the job requirements...any heartburn before we go further?" type of thing, but not "if I asked you would you say yes".
And that would be normal.
I understand narrowing the field to candidates who are more interested in taking the job than others, but asking me to commit to an answer before being asked the question seemed like putting the cart before the hearse.
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If they were, it was convincing. They were both young, tan, fantastic to look at, and very very married to bankers.
Ah, huge Rocks. My mistake.
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Yes. The two insanely hot women who visited me in my office to sell me the service looked very happy.
Our parent company does Payroll/HR outsourcing. About a year ago they moved their local reps in to share our office space. Unbelievable talent. Every. Single. One. We now consider it an office perk.
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I'm telling ya, man. Even in this job market, we got some of the dumbest fucking questions. Same shit. How much vacation time is there? ONE WOMAN, I love this, comes in and tells me she needs (no shit) 7 of the first 20 days off for trips she already had planned. Then she got ANGRY when I asked "do you do this every month?"
I did have to tell a prospective employer once (in October) that I was going to be getting married the following August and would need time for that. Was that out of line?
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I did have to tell a prospective employer once (in October) that I was going to be getting married the following August and would need time for that. Was that out of line?
Depends on if you were getting married on a travel day or not.
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Depends on if you were getting married on a travel day or not.
You are a bad, bad man.
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My ex would "borrow" my razor, destroy the blade, then put it back. I wouldn't know until I'd flayed my cheek wide open with the first swipe of the razor the next morning.
then by god her towels deserved blood on them. fn bitch.
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I did have to tell a prospective employer once (in October) that I was going to be getting married the following August and would need time for that. Was that out of line?
Depends on the position in question. If it's a management / executive job, this is totally appropriate. If it's to flip burgers, you hit the trapdoor button faster than Mr. Burns. If it's a tweener position, you raise the topic as a negotiation point - as in you figure a mutually acceptable start date so that you actually work for your first paycheck. If it's next fucking year I don't think you need to mention it at all.
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So that's who still uses aol.
I still have an AOL account. would not say that I use it.
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Do you supply them with razors as benefits on their travel days, and what type do you use? Do they come with carrots and peanuts?
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Do you supply them with razors as benefits on their travel days, and what type do you use? Do they come with carrots and peanuts?
Yes.
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You are a bad, bad man.
According to my profile, I have 68 days, 12 hours and 10 minutes on this site, not counting whatever I had on the BFT from 1999 until this site. How could I be otherwise?
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I did have to tell a prospective employer once (in October) that I was going to be getting married the following August and would need time for that. Was that out of line?
Not even similar.
The $60k guy, during the interview, said that if it was possible, he wanted July 7th off (we hired him in February). I thought that was great. All I ask is that I know when you need time off; a day, a week, whatever.
There's a big difference between "I have this huge life altering event planned in the future and wanted you to be aware of it" and "I need 3 blocks of non consecutive days off in the next three weeks for leisure trips I had already planned before I was offered a job."
Marriage happens 3, maybe 4 times in your life. You going to Baltimore to eat crabs can fucking wait.
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Marriage happens 3, maybe 4 times in your life. You going to Baltimore to eat get crabs can fucking wait.
FIFY
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There's a big difference between "I have this huge life altering event planned in the future and wanted you to be aware of it" and "I need 3 blocks of non consecutive days off in the next three weeks for leisure trips I had already planned before I was offered a job."
What if the douchebag were slightly less douchey and asked to defer starting for three weeks (or whatever)? If that person is otherwise acceptable, do you make the offer and wait? Or do you keep shopping hoping that you can find somebody else who can start sooner?
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Ah, huge Rocks. My mistake.
Right there with ya. I assumed it was a typo for 'racks', because never in a million years would it have occurred to me to focus on geological assets ahead of physical ones.
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What if the douchebag were slightly less douchey and asked to defer starting for three weeks (or whatever)? If that person is otherwise acceptable, do you make the offer and wait? Or do you keep shopping hoping that you can find somebody else who can start sooner?
That's the worst part. I asked her "when can you start" and she said "Monday."
If the answer had been "I have these trips coming up, so I can start now but I'll be gone next Mon, the following Tues-Fri, and then Mon/Tues the NEXT week OR I can just start in 3 weeks" she'd be working here today. I made it clear that we didn't need her to start the next morning or anything.
She said MONDAY and then called me from her cell phone on the train home to tell me about the trips in a "take it or leave it" way.
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Right there with ya. I assumed it was a typo for 'racks', because never in a million years would it have occurred to me to focus on geological assets ahead of physical ones.
What I'm trying to tell you is the diamonds were bigger.
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What if the douchebag were slightly less douchey and asked to defer starting for three weeks (or whatever)? If that person is otherwise acceptable, do you make the offer and wait? Or do you keep shopping hoping that you can find somebody else who can start sooner?
The key is to ask for a signing bonus now, and then go on vacation for three weeks and start after that.
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The key is to ask for a signing bonus now, and then go on vacation for three weeks and start after that.
See Williams, Ricky.
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The key is to ask for a signing bonus now, and then go on vacation for three weeks and start after that.
Oh I can't tell you how many college grads are shocked when you tell them you expect them to start work June 1st. They're absolutely gobsmacked that they don't still get all summer off and will be asked to contribute all the way up until December 24th.
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You know, I'm sure there are jobs where it makes sense, but I don't get the signing bonus thing. Especially in this market.
The bonus is you get to stop looking for a job and I direct deposit American Dollars into your bank account in 14 days.
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You know, I'm sure there are jobs where it makes sense, but I don't get the signing bonus thing. Especially in this market.
The bonus is you get to stop looking for a job and I direct deposit American Dollars into your bank account in 14 days.
Two years ago, they were offering a $5,000 bonus to work at McDonald's. In addition to the $12/hour. It's all about supply and demand.
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Two years ago, they were offering a $5,000 bonus to work at McDonald's. In addition to the $12/hour. It's all about supply and demand.
Right, that's what I'm saying. 4 years ago, I would have had to pay 3x what I'm paying and almost certainly couldn't afford HQ in NYC. But in today's market, a signing bonus sounds nuts.
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Right, that's what I'm saying. 4 years ago, I would have had to pay 3x what I'm paying and almost certainly couldn't afford HQ in NYC. But in today's market, a signing bonus sounds nuts.
Folks who clerk at the Supreme Court can expect a $250,000 signing bonus when they join a private firm. There's supply and demand in smaller populations that comes into account as well.
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I'm still hooked on this chickengeorge guy.
how to make a food art sculpture of your best freind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glL_dg22NLo&feature=related).
~40 hot dogs, nacho cheese, wooden skewers, BBQ sauce.....and a grinder makes an appearance late in episode 1. Part 3 is where it really gets disturbing, though.
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Folks who clerk at the Supreme Court can expect a $250,000 signing bonus when they join a private firm. There's supply and demand in smaller populations that comes into account as well.
I am clearly in the wrong business.
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Right, that's what I'm saying. 4 years ago, I would have had to pay 3x what I'm paying and almost certainly couldn't afford HQ in NYC. But in today's market, a signing bonus sounds nuts.
If you've got an ample supply, then I'm sure it does. If you're having to entice people to come work for you, a signing bonus may be just the ticket. Not everyone is looking to hire a blackberry carrying financial boob in NYC.
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Folks who clerk at the Supreme Court can expect a $250,000 signing bonus when they join a private firm. There's supply and demand in smaller populations that comes into account as well.
/whythefuckdidntigotolawschool
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/whythefuckdidntigotolawschool
Because then you'd have to be around lawyers all day. Sometimes it's just not worth it to be a whore, no matter how much money they throw at you.
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Not everyone is looking to hire a blackberry carrying financial boob in NYC.
I'm sure it is hard to find an unemployed, blackberry-carrying financial boob in NYC. It's not like a cigar shop where you have to decide which end of the block to walk to.
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If you've got an ample supply, then I'm sure it does. If you're having to entice people to come work for you, a signing bonus may be just the ticket. Not everyone is looking to hire a blackberry carrying financial boob in NYC.
In fairness, we're not in finance. We just service the finance industry. I'm not looking to hire the people in NYC that are what most people think of when they think of workers in NYC. We have more people with Lib Arts degrees than Biz degrees.
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/whythefuckdidntigotolawschool
Because then you'd be a lawyer.
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Because then you'd have to be around lawyers all day. Sometimes it's just not worth it to be a whore, no matter how much money they throw at you.
I thought we were all whores anyway.
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I'm sure it is hard to find an unemployed, blackberry-carrying financial boob in NYC. It's not like a cigar shop where you have to decide which end of the block to walk to.
I thought all financial boobs carried a blackberry.
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Folks who clerk at the Supreme Court can expect a $250,000 signing bonus when they join a private firm. There's supply and demand in smaller populations that comes into account as well.
What's a law degree cost these days?
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What's a law degree cost these days?
Your soul.
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I thought we were all whores anyway.
Only if you work for someone other than Alkie.
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I'm still hooked on this chickengeorge guy.
how to make a food art sculpture of your best freind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glL_dg22NLo&feature=related).
~40 hot dogs, nacho cheese, wooden skewers, BBQ sauce.....and a grinder makes an appearance late in episode 1. Part 3 is where it really gets disturbing, though.
I was not prepared for the shirtlessness.
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Only if you work for someone other than Alkie.
One of my document people is a whore. The other isn't. My PR person is clearly a whore. My auditor, if he's a whore, is a really really bad one.
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Your soul.
I'm also available to pitch the HR Derby.
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I'm also available to pitch the HR Derby.
Whore.
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I was not prepared for the shirtlessness.
No one ever is.
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Only if you work for someone other than Alkie.
No no. The universe is separated into two groups: Alkie and whores.
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No no. The universe is separated into two groups: Alkie and whores.
I am also a whore, it's a matter of degrees. For example, I'm sitting in a hotel right now while my family goes and plays on vacation. This makes me a whore. I have made the decision to make money today instead of going to have fun. But I also get tremendous satisfaction from this work and not just the rewards. So I don't feel the same as I did, say, when I worked at the CPA firm 7 years ago. That was just whoring without the penis inside me. Or was it.
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Also, I never suggested everyone else was a whore. You're just mad that attorneys made their way onto the list without me even having to say it.
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I was not prepared for the shirtlessness.
I watched this during lunch time. It was not lunch, it was lunch time. After watching him shower with the sculpture, lunch wasn't an option. The Hell's Brisket episode was pretty good, too.
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I was not prepared for the shirtlessness.
Brokeback Kitchen?
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After watching him shower with the sculpture, lunch wasn't an option.
I've never been more thankful for a phone call that interrupted mindless internet surfing than the one that made me turn it off before THAT.
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Also, I never suggested everyone else was a whore. You're just mad that attorneys made their way onto the list without me even having to say it.
Actually, I still feel bad about The Slandering of Larrissa Riquelme.
Yes, Alkie. SHE HAS A NAME! And very likely a mother who loves her.
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Folks who clerk at the Supreme Court can expect a $250,000 signing bonus when they join a private firm. There's supply and demand in smaller populations that comes into account as well.
At the top end. That's not quite what we're paying.
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I've never been more thankful for a phone call that interrupted mindless internet surfing than the one that made me turn it off before THAT.
Some things can never be unseen. He did have his cowboy hat on, though.
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At the top end. That's not quite what we're paying.
For a SCOTUS clerk? I assumed y'all would be right at the market price. Isn't it 35/50/250 district/appellate/SCOTUS?
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There are, what, 5*9 SCOTUS clerks every year? That's like being a first-round NBA pick.
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Actually, I still feel bad about The Slandering of Larrissa Riquelme.
Yes, Alkie. SHE HAS A NAME! And very likely a mother who loves her.
Her mother was a whore too.
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There are, what, 5*9 SCOTUS clerks every year? That's like being a first-round NBA pick.
Each justice gets 4, so that's... uh ... 9 times 4. But, yeah. It's pretty rarified air.
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There are, what, 5*9 SCOTUS clerks every year? That's like being a first-round NBA pick.
Which I could have been, too, if my parents had shelled out for a traveling select team.
(ducks)
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Each justice gets 4, so that's... uh ... 9 times 4. But, yeah. It's pretty rarified air.
How does someone get that gig? Son of a senator type thing or just the 36 best students from the Ivy?
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How does someone get that gig? Son of a senator type thing or just the 36 best students from the Ivy?
Whoring. Pay attention.
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Each justice gets 4, so that's... uh ... 9 times 4. But, yeah. It's pretty rarified air.
How long is the position? A year?
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Having seen your face, I'm not surprised by your feelings.
i shave pretty regularly these days-- no summer beards. but man, i can't imagine the pain and discomfort that would come from shaving every day. man and woman were not in any way meant to do that.
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How long is the position? A year? /Monica Lewinski
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How does someone get that gig? Son of a senator type thing or just the 36 best students from the Ivy?
They mostly come from the Ivies, but I know a UT grad who is clerking for Thomas this year.
Usually you go from law school to a prominent court of appeals justice, clerk for a year, then get the recommendation from that judge. Certain appellate judges are known as "feeder" judges that generate SCOTUS clerks every year. The clerks all mostly take the same route.
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How long is the position? A year?
Yes. Beginning in July, I think.
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You guys have it easy. On top of shaving my face 5-6 times a week, I have to shave my head 5-6 times a week. And that's before manscaping.
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How does someone get that gig? Son of a senator type thing or just the 36 best students from the Ivy?
Pretty much the latter. From Justice Antonin Scalia:
"By and large’, he said, ‘I’m going to be picking from the law schools that basically are the hardest to get into. They admit the best and the brightest, and they may not teach very well, but you can’t make a sow’s ear out of a silk purse. If they come in the best and the brightest, they’re probably going to leave the best and the brightest, O.K.?’
Over the last six years, the justices have hired about 220 law clerks. Almost half went to Harvard or Yale. Chicago, Stanford, Virginia and Columbia collectively accounted for 50 others. No one from Washington College of Law made the cut."
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And that's before manscaping.
I'm going to go watch chickengeorge in the shower with the hot dog sculpture again to cleanse my brain of this thought.
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Folks who clerk at the Supreme Court can expect a $250,000 signing bonus when they join a private firm. There's supply and demand in smaller populations that comes into account as well.
you have to be kidding. from which firms--Wall Street?
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you have to be kidding. from which firms--Wall Street?
The superduperwhiteshoebigones. (http://abovethelaw.com/2009/06/scotus-clerkship-bonus-watch-still-at-250k-/)
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It goes without saying that the appropriate soundtrack to wiener sculpturing is AC/DC.
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It goes without saying that the appropriate soundtrack to wiener sculpturing is AC/DC Goodbye Horses.
FIFY
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It goes without saying that the appropriate soundtrack to wiener sculpturing is AC/DC. The Lumberjack Song
FIF both of Y
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I have been assured that we've stopped paying all new lawyers, and that their parents will pay us now.
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If I can jump back to razors for a second (sorry, late to the party)... Like many here, I hate shaving but also hate having a beard. My compromise has been to only shave every 4-5 days, which is probably not as often as I should given hair growth rate, but it's as often as I've been able to convince myself to shave given my dislike for the process and the expense of razor blades.
I go for (or fell for) the multi-blade razors (Fusion now, Mach3 before that), and even with those and changing the blad every 2-3 shaves, I still suffer a lot of ingrown hairs. Any suggestions for fixes or what I'm doing wrong? (This is an area where growing up with a single mom did not help.)
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If I can jump back to razors for a second (sorry, late to the party)... Like many here, I hate shaving but also hate having a beard. My compromise has been to only shave every 4-5 days, which is probably not as often as I should given hair growth rate, but it's as often as I've been able to convince myself to shave given my dislike for the process and the expense of razor blades.
I go for (or fell for) the multi-blade razors (Fusion now, Mach3 before that), and even with those and changing the blad every 2-3 shaves, I still suffer a lot of ingrown hairs. Any suggestions for fixes or what I'm doing wrong? (This is an area where growing up with a single mom did not help.)
Only thing I can offer is to shave with the direction of your hair. I was always told to shave upward. That led to a lot of ingrown hair for me. I tried shaving downward, then upward. That gave me razor burn AND ingrown hairs. I started shaving only with the direction my beard grows (down), never had a problem since except for two trouble spots - upper lip and chin. It's not a baby-butt smooth shave, but it's adequate and my wife gives it the thumbs up.
eta: I should mention I have coarse facial hair. I'm not one of those blue faced types, that homer simpson effect, but when I have stubble, you can tell.
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I have been assured that we've stopped paying all new lawyers, and that their parents will pay us now.
we are contemplating part 1 as we speak.
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If I can jump back to razors for a second (sorry, late to the party)... Like many here, I hate shaving but also hate having a beard. My compromise has been to only shave every 4-5 days, which is probably not as often as I should given hair growth rate, but it's as often as I've been able to convince myself to shave given my dislike for the process and the expense of razor blades.
I go for (or fell for) the multi-blade razors (Fusion now, Mach3 before that), and even with those and changing the blad every 2-3 shaves, I still suffer a lot of ingrown hairs. Any suggestions for fixes or what I'm doing wrong? (This is an area where growing up with a single mom did not help.)
Sounds like a Queer Eye for the Straight Guy episode.
But yeah, never shave against the grain and shave in the shower.
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we are contemplating part 1 as we speak.
Seriously? Is business that bad or there just so many lawyers you need to weed through them?
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If I can jump back to razors for a second (sorry, late to the party)... Like many here, I hate shaving but also hate having a beard. My compromise has been to only shave every 4-5 days, which is probably not as often as I should given hair growth rate, but it's as often as I've been able to convince myself to shave given my dislike for the process and the expense of razor blades.
I go for (or fell for) the multi-blade razors (Fusion now, Mach3 before that), and even with those and changing the blad every 2-3 shaves, I still suffer a lot of ingrown hairs. Any suggestions for fixes or what I'm doing wrong? (This is an area where growing up with a single mom did not help.)
Shaving only every 4-5 days is part of the problem. Keep your whiskers short, and you'll get less irritation and fewer ingrown hairs. Also, rinse your razor and your face with cold water. As cold as you can stand it. I know that's not as soothing as the hot water/towel treatment, but if irritation is a problem, the cold is better on your face than the hot. The burder you'll have to bear.
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Seriously? Is business that bad or there just so many lawyers you need to weed through them?
business is way off for most firms i know of, especially those who do a lot of litigation. some of the large firms from other cities who had very large Austin offices lopped off entire practice groups. Bracewell also did that in Houston. it is a very bad time to be a law student.
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it is a very bad time to be a law student.
Of the "rising 3Ls" (law students between their second and third year) who are on law review at UH, only half have traditional summer associate jobs. It's very bad.
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Of the "rising 3Ls" (law students between their second and third year) who are on law review at UH, only half have traditional summer associate jobs. It's very bad.
It's the economy. Everyone is broke, and the first rule of lawyering is "never sue poor people". It's a trickle down effect.
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Of the "rising 3Ls" (law students between their second and third year) who are on law review at UH, only half have traditional summer associate jobs. It's very bad.
lots of summer programs are no more, at least for the time being. we do not have one this summer for the first time in my 30 years here.
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the first rule of lawyering is "never sue poor people".
Someone forgot to tell Wal-Mart's lawyers.
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It's the economy. Everyone is broke, and the first rule of lawyering is "never sue poor people". It's a trickle down effect.
tort reform
ADR
no business deals being done
all have had a big impact on litigation
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tort reform
ADR
no business deals being done
all have had a big impact on litigation
Word we're getting is that M&A is picking up in a big way. That may "help".
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My former roommate is a professor at a mid-west university. He said they are thinking of starting a law school to raise revenue. I told him I thought it was a terrible idea, but I guess universities know how many unemployed liberal arts majors there are.
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My former roommate is a professor at a mid-west university. He said they are thinking of starting a law school to raise revenue. I told him I thought it was a terrible idea, but I guess universities know how many unemployed liberal arts majors there are.
the law school will make money. the law students may not. law school attacts all majors, not just liberal arts.
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Only thing I can offer is to shave with the direction of your hair. I was always told to shave upward. That led to a lot of ingrown hair for me. I tried shaving downward, then upward. That gave me razor burn AND ingrown hairs. I started shaving only with the direction my beard grows (down), never had a problem since except for two trouble spots - upper lip and chin. It's not a baby-butt smooth shave, but it's adequate and my wife gives it the thumbs up.
eta: I should mention I have coarse facial hair. I'm not one of those blue faced types, that homer simpson effect, but when I have stubble, you can tell.
I'd suggest you all try borrowing your wife's Nair. Let me know how it goes.
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I used to shave every other day; now I do it every 4-5 days. I've noticed that it helps keep irritation and ingrown hairs to a minimum, compared with the every other day method. I just wash my face before shaving to soften up the whiskers. Also, I rinse with cold water.
And I still have my free 18th birthday razor.
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I shave 4-5 times a week. I like the new razors with all the damn blades everywhere. I can shave faster and safer. I go old timer with Old Spice aftershave. I guess if I was going to start complaining about how much shit cost now compared to the days of yore, eventually razor blades would come up.
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I shave 4-5 times a week. I like the new razors with all the damn blades everywhere. I can shave faster and safer. I go old timer with Old Spice aftershave. I guess if I was going to start complaining about how much shit cost now compared to the days of yore, eventually razor blades would come up.
If you wear Old Spice, you probably don't need to worry about personal grooming.
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If you wear Old Spice, you probably don't need to worry about personal grooming.
At least it isn't aqua velva (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28-Y4tc6nCo).
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If you wear Old Spice, you probably don't need to worry about personal grooming.
Agreed, but they get an A+ for their recent marketing campaigns. Bruce Campbell singing Duran Duran, pure genius. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg6bZSM48vU
I believe we've touched on the excellence of this commercial before. But wanted to share none the less.
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Agreed, but they get an A+ for their recent marketing campaigns. Bruce Campbell singing Duran Duran, pure genius.
Agreed. I'm on a horse.
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If you wear Old Spice, you probably don't need to worry about personal grooming.
My mom likes it.
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At least it isn't aqua velva (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28-Y4tc6nCo).
How about some Hai Karate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21sgNdymWTY&feature=related). Be careful how you use it.
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At least it isn't aqua velva (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28-Y4tc6nCo).
Wow, I remember that one, and the one with Rose and Joe Morgan...I think watching old commercials is pretty cool....
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Wow, I remember that one, and the one with Rose and Joe Morgan...I think watching old commercials is pretty cool....
He should be kept out of the HOF just because of his willingness to sing in that spot. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2lViEJtl8g&feature=related)
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Can someone please link the YouTube Noxema commercial where Farrah creams on Namath's face? Please?
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Can someone please link the YouTube Noxema commercial where Farrah creams on Namath's face? Please?
Ask and ye shall receive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM59nSkjEWU&feature=related)
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How about some Hai Karate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21sgNdymWTY&feature=related). Be careful how you use it.
Hey, I love the smell of Hai Karate!
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Ask and ye shall receive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM59nSkjEWU&feature=related)
I'll be in my bunk.
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Ask and ye shall receive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM59nSkjEWU&feature=related)
It is clear there were no blades in Joe's razor.
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It is clear there were no blades in Joe's razor.
There was a razor in that commerical?
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Went to the barber this morning over at Doug's on 11th St, and got my hair cut by a guy so old that he told me the same story about Barbara Stanwyck twice. I asked him how he sharpened his straight razor, but apparently straight razors are no longer blades, but holders. He said he bought disposable razor inserts at the beauty supply. He told me that he still shaved with a safety razor, and thought they were the best. He said he bought the blades 5 for a dollar at the Family Dollar.
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Went to the barber this morning over at Doug's on 11th St, and got my hair cut by a guy so old that he told me the same story about Barbara Stanwyck twice.
Based on the amount of hair you have, it must have been a very short story.
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Based on the amount of hair you have, it must have been a very short story.
It's short, but it's still mostly there. He was one slow barber though.
He also remembered the name of Barbara Stanwyck's tv show.
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Wasn't that the barbershop from Rushmore?
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Wasn't that the barbershop from Rushmore?
Yes, but I haven't seen the movie.
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He also remembered the name of Barbara Stanwyck's tv show.
"The Barbara Stanwyck Show"?
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"The Barbara Stanwyck Show"?
The Big Valley. Was there more than one?
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Big Valley.
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i thought she was miss ellie on dallas
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i thought she was miss ellie on dallas
No, that was Barbara Bel Geddes.
Linda Evans was also on Big Valley.
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No, that was Barbara Bel Geddes.
Linda Evans was also on Big Valley.
As was Lee Majors, which brings us full circle to Farah Fawcett.
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As was Lee Majors, which brings us full circle to Farah Fawcett.
...and she had very full circles.
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The Big Valley. Was there more than one?
There was the Barbara Stanwyck Show.
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There was the Barbara Stanwyck Show. (http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/20167043)
YTFY
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There was the Barbara Stanwyck Show.
Doesn't look like something a manly 5-year old would have watched, so small wonder I don't remember it. Now the Big Valley, that was some TV.
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I go for (or fell for) the multi-blade razors (Fusion now, Mach3 before that), and even with those and changing the blad every 2-3 shaves, I still suffer a lot of ingrown hairs. Any suggestions for fixes or what I'm doing wrong? (This is an area where growing up with a single mom did not help.)
I had to learn the hard way too. Here's the fix:
http://www.personna.com/personna/blades/shaving/detail/bump-fighter-razor-system/
You can get these at most typical drug stores like CVS or Right Aid in the shaving sections. Follow the instruction religiously. It will decrease the bumps by 80 or 90%. Someone else suggested shaving with cold water since it tightens the skin. Never, never do this if you get razor bumps as the cold water will make each stand up and get decapitated. Keep the water as hot as you can stand it, or preferrably, shave in the shower. Send me a PM if you have questions.
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I had to learn the hard way too. Here's the fix:
http://www.personna.com/personna/blades/shaving/detail/bump-fighter-razor-system/
You can get these at most typical drug stores like CVS or Right Aid in the shaving sections. Follow the instruction religiously. It will decrease the bumps by 80 or 90%. Someone else suggested shaving with cold water since it tightens the skin. Never, never do this if you get razor bumps as the cold water will make each stand up and get decapitated. Keep the water as hot as you can stand it, or preferrably, shave in the shower. Send me a PM if you have questions.
Right. Shave with hot skin and a hot razor (hot metal being more flexible than cold), and then rinse with cold water.
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This thread MADE me have to go shave immediatly.
BTW, I switched from a Gillette Sensor to the new Fusion not long ago. Even though it has about 5,000 unnecessary blades, it's the most comftorable shave i've ever had. I used to get mild burn with my sensor, not anymore.
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This thread MADE me have to go shave immediatly.
BTW, I switched from a Gillette Sensor to the new Fusion not long ago. Even though it has about 5,000 unnecessary blades, it's the most comftorable shave i've ever had. I used to get mild burn with my sensor, not anymore.
Has there ever been a thread more emblematic of B&Q than one that incorporates shaving advice, Farrah Fawcett and Supreme Court clerk salaries?
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I shaved with an old safety razor today. Much cheaper than buying the new plasticy stuff. However, you do have to be careful not to slice yourself open. Pre-shave oil works well for this purpose. Or, if you're cheap like me, olive oil.