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Title: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Fynn on June 28, 2010, 10:03:33 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/28/opinion/28krugman.html[/url]

I don't really agree with Krugman often (albeit I don't have a Nobel prize in economics), and even though his cure for this economy is specious (he thinks the Federal government has not provided enough liquidity) I will agree him that there is a Bad Moon Rising.   Pray that we are both idiots and better times are ahead.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Astroholic on June 28, 2010, 10:21:32 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/28/opinion/28krugman.html[/url]

I don't really agree with Krugman often (albeit I don't have a Nobel prize in economics), and even though his cure for this economy is specious (he thinks the Federal government has not provided enough liquidity) I will agree him that there is a Bad Moon Rising.   Pray that we are both idiots and better times are ahead.

You do realize that this is a web site to discuss Astros Baseball?  Oh what the hell Im In.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Mr. Happy on June 28, 2010, 02:55:21 pm
I read the same piece and thought that he had a point too. And I'd never agree with Krugman on anything else, especially his so-called solution. The solution that no one in the administration or Congress (on both sides of the aisle) wants is to cut spending. The G20 tried to tell President Obama that his solutions are tried and true failures, but, as expected, he wouldn't listen.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 07:24:40 pm
I read the same piece and thought that he had a point too. And I'd never agree with Krugman on anything else, especially his so-called solution. The solution that no one in the administration or Congress (on both sides of the aisle) wants is to cut spending. The G20 tried to tell President Obama that his solutions are tried and true failures, but, as expected, he wouldn't listen.

How is cutting government spending a solution to a recession/depression?
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 07:32:00 pm
How is cutting government spending a solution to a recession/depression?

You're not really going to do this, are you?
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Ron Brand on June 28, 2010, 07:37:04 pm
I used to throw darts with Paul Krugman...
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 07:41:07 pm
I used to throw darts with Paul Krugman...

THERE.  THANK you.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Guinness on June 28, 2010, 07:45:54 pm
You're not really going to do this, are you?

Why does one side get to make a point but when the other side does, suddenly chuck's the bad guy trying to start shit?
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 07:55:44 pm
Why does one side get to make a point but when the other side does, suddenly chuck's the bad guy trying to start shit?

Trust me when I say...you've badly badly misunderstood the point of my post if you think I'm about to jump chuck's shit in a political thread.

Hi.  I'm Alkie, perhaps you had me pegged as a wingnut while you spent the last 13 years reading none of my rants.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Ron Brand on June 28, 2010, 08:03:58 pm
Krugman's a spindly little guy, but get a couple of Maredsous in him and he'd challenge a grizzly bear. I remember one time we were upstairs at Maggie's and he was pounding that Flemish slop. Three large frat rats came in and started popping off about how the flat tax was the solution to everything when Krugman hauled back and flung a HUGE loogy into the Stella Artois one of those misanthropes was holding.

"There's your fucking flat tax, assholes," he spat. "Taste it. Taste the booger flavor."

The wingman clipped Paul with a shot to the jaw and down he went. The guy with the Artois was kicking at Paul's head, but Mr. Nobel had his darts in his paws and managed to hold them points out, so the guy kept stabbing his foot with every kick.

I managed to roll Paul over the balcony and he landed on a table surrounded by bowheads, after which we beat our retreat. Good times.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 08:06:40 pm
Maredsous ...Flemish slop.

8 or 10?  And take-that-back, either way.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Guinness on June 28, 2010, 08:16:10 pm
Trust me when I say...you've badly badly misunderstood the point of my post if you think I'm about to jump chuck's shit in a political thread.

Hi.  I'm Alkie, perhaps you had me pegged as a wingnut while you spent the last 13 years reading none of my rants.

I was ranting in a general sort of manner, waxing rhetorical.  I've read your rants;  I rarely disagree.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 08:17:28 pm
I was ranting in a general sort of manner, waxing rhetorical.  I've read your rants;  I rarely disagree.

Cool.   I take it back then.

Chuck is a socialist tool of the communist party and must be stopped at all costs.   If he gets his way, the poor will have voting rights and own land.  What then, I ask you.   What.  Then.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Ron Brand on June 28, 2010, 08:20:28 pm
Racist.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 08:24:03 pm
It isn't MY fault most poor people are brown.   That's right, I said it.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Ron Brand on June 28, 2010, 08:25:33 pm
Makes sense. I'm tan and poor.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 08:28:58 pm
Makes sense. I'm tan and poor.

See.  If you'd just get rid of the tan, you'd find yourself wildly wealthy.    Your cooking would taste like shit, but you'd be rich.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Guinness on June 28, 2010, 08:42:00 pm
Chuck is a socialist tool of the communist party and must be stopped at all costs.   If he gets his way, the poor will have voting rights and own land.  What then, I ask you.   What.  Then.

It'll be Sandanistas all over again. 
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 08:42:52 pm
Viva Zapata
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 08:49:37 pm
Cool.   I take it back then.

Chuck is a socialist tool of the communist party and must be stopped at all costs.   If he gets his way, the poor will have voting rights and own land.  What then, I ask you.   What.  Then.

Wait a minute. I thought I was a chortling patrician.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 08:54:57 pm
Krugman's a spindly little guy, but get a couple of Maredsous in him and he'd challenge a grizzly bear. I remember one time we were upstairs at Maggie's and he was pounding that Flemish slop. Three large frat rats came in and started popping off about how the flat tax was the solution to everything when Krugman hauled back and flung a HUGE loogy into the Stella Artois one of those misanthropes was holding.

"There's your fucking flat tax, assholes," he spat. "Taste it. Taste the booger flavor."

The wingman clipped Paul with a shot to the jaw and down he went. The guy with the Artois was kicking at Paul's head, but Mr. Nobel had his darts in his paws and managed to hold them points out, so the guy kept stabbing his foot with every kick.

I managed to roll Paul over the balcony and he landed on a table surrounded by bowheads, after which we beayt our retreat. Good times.

You know what? This is a fine effort. For some reason it reminds me of that scene in Trainspotting where Robert Carlyle tosses a mug over the balcony and all hell breaks out.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 08:55:46 pm
Wait a minute. I thought I was a chortling patrician.

You are.  From the far left.   You have everything and want to just share it with every goddamn body.   And then laugh and then and point out how poorly they're using your resources.

For examples; have you watched Ron Brand play golf?
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: OregonStrosFan on June 28, 2010, 08:58:46 pm
Golf? I thought Ron Brand was a Darts aficionado.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 08:59:19 pm
Golf? I thought Ron Brand was a Darts aficionado.

He's no Phil Taylor.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: austro on June 28, 2010, 08:59:45 pm
Wait a minute. I thought I was a chortling patrician.

That's in the winter, when the little people with the chattering teeth are trying to warm their hovels. In the summer, you're communing with Central American socialists and trying to scam The Man by returning half-eaten cartons of ice cream.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 09:01:16 pm
That's in the winter, when the little people with the chattering teeth are trying to warm their hovels. In the summer, you're communing with Central American socialists and trying to scam The Man by returning half-eaten cartons of ice cream.

It is a curious life chuck leads, no?   All Baroque and no bite.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 09:03:48 pm
For examples; have you watched Ron Brand play golf?

Indeed. But Sir Brand uses his own resources, such as they are, to play the game.

Reminds me, I was tidying up on the 18th hole this afternoon at about 6. The sun goes down at 6:30, 6:45 or so. I keep hearing this fairly strong hissing sound. It sounds vaguely like the sound the waves make when the wind is coming in from the ocean so I ignore it. But in the back of my mind I know for a fact that it's not waves. As I stroll back to my cart I happen to look up and I see a hot air balloon rising from the airstrip just across the road. I've never seen a hot air balloon in Panama. I have cruise control in my car here. I have never used it. Panama's just really not a cruise control kind of place. In a similar way Panama doesn't strike me as a hot air balloon kind of place, either. Certainly not when you're going up at fucking sundown. I mean, what the fuck are you doing? I have no earthly idea where he meant to land. Fortunately for him the wind is indeed coming in off the ocean. He'll either get tangled up in some power lines or he'll slam into a mountain. Or he'll scare the shit out of some campesino by landing in his field.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 09:06:53 pm
That's in the winter, when the little people with the chattering teeth are trying to warm their hovels. In the summer, you're communing with Central American socialists and trying to scam The Man by returning half-eaten cartons of ice cream.

I forgot to mention that I did indeed return the ice cream. It occurred to me that the tub I'd bought may simply have melted at some point and lost half its contents. Anyway, I took literally the only other ice cream of the same size, naranja-piƱa. That's a pretty good flavor, too. You know, now that I think about it I didn't see that five gallon tub of nance. Maybe someone has more of a taste for planting soil than I do.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 09:07:54 pm
A man, a plan, a dirigible; Panama.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 09:10:40 pm
A man, a plan, a dirigible; Panama.

Not a blimp, dude, Albuquerque-stylie, nowhaiymeanin?
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 09:12:39 pm
Not a blimp, dude, Albuquerque-stylie, nowhaiymeanin?

A man, a plan, Bad Company live, Panama.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 09:14:20 pm
Not a blimp, dude, Albuquerque-stylie, nowhaiymeanin?

I tell you what.  If it's the PWT crowd you're looking to hang out with and eat some Hatch chiles with, Balloonfest is your thing.  Burquee is, almost without question, one of the most useless cities in America.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 09:14:35 pm
A man, a plan, Bad Company live, Panama.

Peter Cetera is going to be playing here imminently. People are actually excited about the show. It's the biggest concert event in Panama since Guns 'n Roses.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 09:16:21 pm
Peter Cetera is going to be playing here imminently. People are actually excited about the show. It's the biggest concert event in Panama since Guns 'n Roses.

Well, if I love the ladies, I love Axl Rose.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 09:25:05 pm
Well, if I love the ladies, I love Axl Rose.

Sure you do. You know he's not playing with that guy in the top hat anymore? Apparently that really caught a lot of Panamanian rockers off guard.

So, recessionary spending, yea or nay?
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 09:28:37 pm
Sure you do. You know he's not playing with that guy in the top hat anymore? Apparently that really caught a lot of Panamanian rockers off guard.

So, recessionary spending, yea or nay?

I'm for green Presidents, not black ones. 
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 09:29:36 pm
Wow, did that come out wrong.

What I meant to say was "I hate minorities and anyone who can't learn to speak English."
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 09:30:02 pm
I'm for green Presidents, not black ones. 

Green. I'll mark that down as a yea.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 09:30:33 pm
Wow, did that come out wrong.

What I meant to say was "I hate minorities and anyone who can't learn to speak English."

Two yeas.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 09:31:20 pm
Green. I'll mark that down as a yea.

I think the best way to fix this problem is to let rich people make all their own personal decisions and let the other 99% of the world work harder.  Pull themselves up their bootstraps.  Show some gumption.   Some moxie.   If they weren't so fucking lazy, they wouldn't be in this position.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Ron Brand on June 28, 2010, 09:32:52 pm
I'll ask Paul when he wakes up.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 09:33:57 pm
I think the best way to fix this problem is to let rich people make all their own personal decisions and let the other 99% of the world work harder.  Pull themselves up their bootstraps.  Show some gumption.   Some moxie.   If they weren't so fucking lazy, they wouldn't be in this position.

Not my fault those lazy fuckers can't afford to buy a boat. Say, I think I'M going to buy a boat. Recessionary spending! Three yeas!
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 09:36:06 pm
Not my fault those lazy fuckers can't afford to buy a boat. Say, I think I'M going to buy a boat. Recessionary spending! Three yeas!

Would your boat care to race mine?   

And I'm getting tired of your snarky bullshit.   Anyone with money knows the best way to stimulate an economy is to slow the flow of cash and pool assets in a corner with the very few.   You fucking FDRneck Dealist.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 09:43:28 pm
Anyone with money knows the best way to stimulate an economy is to slow the flow of cash and pool assets in a corner with the very few.

Trickle dick.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 09:46:12 pm
Trickle dick.

'ass ma boy.

I will give MusicMan this...since I've spent the last 13 months on the Upper West Side, I've totally lost touch with the redneck Middle America.   You all still believe the best way to solve a problem is shove your heads in the fucking sand and tell other people what they shoulda done if they had a time machine?
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 09:50:55 pm
'ass ma boy.

I will give MusicMan this...since I've spent the last 13 months on the Upper West Side, I've totally lost touch with the redneck Middle America.   You all still believe the best way to solve a problem is shove your heads in the fucking sand and tell other people what they shoulda done if they had a time machine?

THIRTEEN MONTHS? Fuck me, has it been that long? And no updates to your flickr page? Outrage!
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 09:53:13 pm
THIRTEEN MONTHS? Fuck me, has it been that long? And no updates to your flickr page? Outrage!

I know, right?   

If it helps you sleep through the night, I obliterated my twitter account a year ago.   

I could take a picture of my outrageously average cock over CPWest right now if you like.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: JimR on June 28, 2010, 09:55:28 pm
Why does one side get to make a point but when the other side does, suddenly chuck's the bad guy trying to start shit?

fuck you, Pete. seriously, go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 09:58:18 pm
fuck you, Pete. seriously, go fuck yourself.

Why do you do this?
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 09:58:38 pm
fuck you, Pete. seriously, go fuck yourself.

OFFICIAL BREAKING NEWS:  It's on.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Guinness on June 28, 2010, 10:23:45 pm
fuck you, Pete. seriously, go fuck yourself.

Jesus, I go and take a quick nap and this fucker's 3 pages long and now this?  I thought chuck was the bad guy...
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Ron Brand on June 28, 2010, 10:26:03 pm
Never cross the streams.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 10:26:16 pm
Jesus, I go and take a quick nap and this fucker's 3 pages long and now this?  I thought chuck was the bad guy...

I'll put that down as a nay.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 10:26:47 pm
Jesus, I go and take a quick nap and this fucker's 3 pages long and now this?  I thought chuck was the bad guy...

It was you all along.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Ron Brand on June 28, 2010, 10:29:04 pm
Note to PeteM - don't go out in a boat with Alkie.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 28, 2010, 10:35:17 pm
Note to PeteM - don't go out in a boat with Alkie.

Nah.  I'll wait for my mom to die first.   He's safe.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Guinness on June 28, 2010, 10:36:16 pm
Nah.  I'll wait for my mom to die first.   He's safe.

Nice.  I think I'll go back to my nap.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: chuck on June 28, 2010, 10:36:50 pm
Note to PeteM - don't go out in a boat with Alkie.

Not unless you want to get smoked by the Santiago de Cali.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Ebby Calvin on June 29, 2010, 08:21:49 am
Peter Cetera is going to be playing here imminently.

Please please PLEASE tell me you're going to that concert.  With a gun.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Guinness on June 29, 2010, 08:30:42 am
Please please PLEASE tell me you're going to that concert.  With a gun.

This is the most constructive comment on this whole thread...after all...
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Lurch on June 29, 2010, 08:47:54 am
Please please PLEASE tell me you're going to that concert.  With a gun.

I like Chicago, Bad Company, Pappasitos fajitas and Jack in a Box commercials.  Nay (we're voting if Alkie should snap a pic of his genitals on a boat, right?)
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Guinness on June 29, 2010, 09:15:07 am
Wait a minute. I thought I was a chortling patrician.

Daddy was a bankrobber...
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: MusicMan on June 29, 2010, 09:24:09 am
I will give MusicMan this...since I've spent the last 13 months on the Upper West Side, I've totally lost touch with the redneck Middle America.

I told you so.  You're one Chris Sampson trade away from convincing yourself that the Yankees aren't such cocksuckers after all.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: MusicMan on June 29, 2010, 09:24:38 am
Peter Cetera is going to be playing here imminently. People are actually excited about the show.

They believe in the glory of love.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 29, 2010, 10:04:17 am
I told you so.  You're one Chris Sampson trade away from convincing yourself that the Yankees aren't such cocksuckers after all.

Wait, is that possible? 
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: MusicMan on June 29, 2010, 10:08:30 am
Wait, is that possible? 

That the Yankees aren't cocksuckers?  No.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 29, 2010, 10:09:17 am
That the Yankees aren't cocksuckers?  No.

But Chris(t) could move here and play here?
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: MikeyBoy on June 29, 2010, 10:57:21 am
But Chris(t) could move here and play here?

Alkie, I happen to be good friends with a girl that dated Chris during and after college, I could probably get a written description of how his dick tastes?
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Ebby Calvin on June 29, 2010, 11:26:00 am
Alkie, I happen to be good friends with a girl that dated Chris during and after college, I could probably get a written description of how his dick tastes?

THAT's how you kill a thread.  Well done, sir.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 29, 2010, 11:53:34 am
THAT's how you kill a thread.  Well done, sir.

Yeah, that pretty much ended any of the lighthearted, pseudo-homo jokery.   
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Limey on June 29, 2010, 01:32:50 pm
Yeah, that pretty much ended any of the lighthearted, pseudo-homo jokery.   

Exactly.  As if you needed to be told what Chris' dick tastes like.
Title: Re: A wonderful way to start your week.
Post by: Alkie on June 29, 2010, 02:45:14 pm
Exactly.  As if you needed to be told what Chris' dick tastes like.

Honeydew melons and butterfly wings.   Also, your ass.  Which was NOT what I was expecting with you out of town that week.