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Title: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: Gizzmonic on May 11, 2010, 04:46:10 pm
Dear TZ/B&Q Guitar Gods,

I am a novice guitarist putting together my first pedal board.  I am looking for a power supply so I can plug all of my pedals together in one place without having to plug in multiple places or fool with batteries.  The only problem is, my most-used pedal (a Digitech JamMan) is an oddball- it takes 9 volts of AC power at 1300 mA .  Do you know of a pedal power supply that can do that?  The closest I've seen is the Burkey Flatliner (http://www.burkey.nl/flatliner%20engels.htm), but it can't do more than 1000 mA of current.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: EasTexAstro on May 11, 2010, 05:21:18 pm
Dear TZ/B&Q Guitar Gods,

I am a novice guitarist putting together my first pedal board.  I am looking for a power supply so I can plug all of my pedals together in one place without having to plug in multiple places or fool with batteries.  The only problem is, my most-used pedal (a Digitech JamMan) is an oddball- it takes 9 volts of AC power at 1300 mA .  Do you know of a pedal power supply that can do that?  The closest I've seen is the Burkey Flatliner (http://www.burkey.nl/flatliner%20engels.htm), but it can't do more than 1000 mA of current.  Any suggestions?

Go get a label maker. Print out a tag that says "9 volts of AC power at 1000 mA". Attach to the pedal.

I got nothin'.
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: Guinness on May 12, 2010, 08:34:24 am
I always just used batteries when I had multiple pedals, although I never had more than 2 or 3 at a time.  Looks like for the cost of that Flatliner you could buy a lifetime's worth of 9Vs.  Do you want to just build the thing yourself?   You could always buy one (http://"http://www.americanmusical.com/ItemSearch--search-pedal-board-power-supply--srcin-1").  Have you thought of getting an all in one unit, like a POD?
On a guitar related note, and at the risk of threadjacking, has anyone ever used flatwounds on an electric?  It's time for a setup and a restring on my electric, so I was thinking of trying something different. 
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: Tralfaz on May 12, 2010, 11:32:44 am
I know alot of folks who will tell you they prefer batteries, and claim they sound better that way.  Their are alot of tone variables in any set up though.

I replace batteries before every gig, unless doing consecutive nights.  Granted, I use 2 to 3 pedals tops.  I've had pedal boards with adapters but have had those fail too.  It's all personal preference really.  Here's a nice option  -

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PedalPwr2Pls/

Flatwounds on electric?  Hell yeah.  Any Beatles album pre 1966 is all flat wounds.  Pyramid makes a great electric flat.  Note, you wont be able to bend the G string, because they are wound in most flat sets.
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: Guinness on May 12, 2010, 11:35:52 am
Flatwounds on electric?  Hell yeah.  Any Beatles album pre 1966 is all flat wounds.  Pyramid makes a great electric flat.  Note, you wont be able to bend the G string, because they are wound in most flat sets.

Wouldn't batteries also help avoid mains hum?

The Beatles are actually what got me thinking about flats.  I'm buying an Epiphone Casino at some point in the next month or so, and was reading that it has better tone with flatwounds, so I figured in the meantime I'd try them on my solid body.  Thanks Tralfaz.
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: JackAstro on May 12, 2010, 11:42:12 am
Wouldn't batteries also help avoid mains hum?

Yep.
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: Gizzmonic on May 12, 2010, 04:06:07 pm
Batteries aren't an option on this pedal-it's plug-in, AC only.  And the power supplies I'm looking at all have isolated inputs anyway, so I doubt mains hum would be an issue.  Just wondering if anyone else had pedals like that-they aren't the typical 9v DC pedals of yesteryear.  I'm just learning this stuff as I go along.
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: JackAstro on May 12, 2010, 05:16:29 pm
Batteries aren't an option on this pedal-it's plug-in, AC only.  And the power supplies I'm looking at all have isolated inputs anyway, so I doubt mains hum would be an issue.  Just wondering if anyone else had pedals like that-they aren't the typical 9v DC pedals of yesteryear.  I'm just learning this stuff as I go along.

I assume your other pedals are DC? You're pretty much stuck with plugging in the power supply that came with the JamMan, because I don't think there are any DC supplies that also have a 1.3A AC output.

You can get something like the supply that Tralfaz linked to, and plug the JamMan's supply into the back of it, so it's all consolidated. Or you can get a proper board and case (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/SKB-PS45-Professional-Pedalboard?sku=544735) with 9VDC outputs and outlets for your JamMan and any other AC supplies.
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on May 12, 2010, 05:30:07 pm
Batteries aren't an option on this pedal-it's plug-in, AC only.  And the power supplies I'm looking at all have isolated inputs anyway, so I doubt mains hum would be an issue.  Just wondering if anyone else had pedals like that-they aren't the typical 9v DC pedals of yesteryear.  I'm just learning this stuff as I go along.

I never got good enough to use all those gadgets, I have only two, and both use 9v batteries, a Morley Wah and an Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi.
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: JackAstro on May 12, 2010, 05:39:05 pm
I never got good enough to use all those gadgets, I have only two, and both use 9v batteries, a Morley Wah and an Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi.

I never thought of skill as being a requirement for having lots of pedals, but now that you mention it, I'm terrible and I use zero of them.
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: Guinness on May 12, 2010, 06:07:41 pm
I never thought of skill as being a requirement for having lots of pedals, but now that you mention it, I'm terrible and I use zero of them.

If I'm playing through my amp I play clean or through the amp's onboard overdrive (it's a little Vox practice amp).  Mostly I'm hooked up throught my DAW, and from there I pretty much have every effect and amp model known to man, but I don't have any physical pedals any more.
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: chuck on May 12, 2010, 07:10:10 pm
You guys have it all wrong. The more pedals you have the less actual guitar skill you need. I'd probably get some rack mounted shit too just to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: Gizzmonic on May 13, 2010, 08:37:01 am
I assume your other pedals are DC? You're pretty much stuck with plugging in the power supply that came with the JamMan, because I don't think there are any DC supplies that also have a 1.3A AC output.

You can get something like the supply that Tralfaz linked to, and plug the JamMan's supply into the back of it, so it's all consolidated. Or you can get a proper board and case (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/SKB-PS45-Professional-Pedalboard?sku=544735) with 9VDC outputs and outlets for your JamMan and any other AC supplies.

Hmm, that's a good idea.  You fellows are full of 'em!  I will continue to bother you for any and all of my most banal problems.  Next up: my feet hurt.  Why?
Title: Re: Guitarists - power supplies?
Post by: austro on May 13, 2010, 08:40:58 am
Next up: my feet hurt.  Why?

Too many pedals.