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General Discussion => Talk Zone => Topic started by: pots on March 31, 2009, 03:40:23 pm
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According to Cincy Enquirer
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3af7029dde-ec50-42bf-b1e1-5f962d524c12&plckCommentSortOrder=TimeStampAscending&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com
My favorite comment:
"IndianaGreg wrote:
Keppinger was beginning to be well liked by Cincy fans... good thing we got rid of him now... so we don't get too attached..."
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Adding Link (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=blog07)....not much else though.
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I like the fact he's struck out a total of 3 times in 139 at bats against lefties.
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I like the fact he's struck out a total of 3 times in 139 at bats against lefties.
He's always been able to put the bat on the ball.
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PTBNL means it's somebody not currently on the 40-man?
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He's always been able to put the bat on the ball.
Yeah, he doesn't strike out much against anyone.
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So begins the Jeoff platoon.
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chron picked it up:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6352049.html
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So begins the Jeoff platoon.
It seems like this would be a nice chance to give Tejada some time at third.
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I read limited range at short on a few websites. He could spell Tejada there for sure, but probably not move him over.
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Footer's got it, too. (http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090331&content_id=4096570&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou)
ETA: She also mentions that Maysonet is down to Round Rock. I guess that makes Smith the utility guy.
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Footer's article notes that Maysonet has been sent to Round Rock.
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Why the hell would the Reds trade a useful player to a division rival for, as far as I can tell, not much of anything?
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Why the hell would the Reds trade a useful player to a division rival for, as far as I can tell, not much of anything?
Because he's out of options and didn't have a spot on their roster?
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PTBNL means it's somebody not currently on the 40-man?
I believe so, but only if traded within the same league (which is the case here). If it were a different league (re: American league) then the restriction is not applicable. Or so I remember.
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I guess that makes Smith the utility guy.
Yeah!!!
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Because he's out of options and didn't have a spot on their roster?
And they think Rosales/Gonzalez is going to be enough to man the position.
It's a low risk, high reward kind of move. Prior to his injury last summer, he was a pretty productive player.
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Why the hell would the Reds trade a useful player to a division rival for, as far as I can tell, not much of anything?
They have better useful players?
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Career:
vs. Left .351/.403/.515 (300 PA)
vs. Right .258/.309/.336 (668 PA)
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Yeah!!!
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And so begins the gnashing of teeth over the 25th man! (j/k)
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She finds him...hot.
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What's the hitting equivalent of a LOOGY?
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Because he's out of options and didn't have a spot on their roster?
Who else do they have as a utility guy other than Janish?
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They have better useful players?
Noe, how can they have better useful players?
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She finds him...hot.
Well, let's face it. When the utility guy shows up, "bow-chick-a-bow-wow" music usually starts playing.
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Who else do they have as a utility guy other than Janish?
Rosales, if Gonzalez is healthy. Which, by making the deal they did, I assume they think he is.
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Noe, how can they have better useful players?
Thanks, Gerry.
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Well, let's face it. When the utility guy shows up, "bow-chick-a-bow-wow" music usually starts playing.
Don't be fatuous, MM.
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It seems like this would be a nice chance to give Tejada some time at third.
Keppinger is definately not a shortstop, IMO.
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Justice is on the radio claiming that the Astros' game notes originally reported the deal as Keppinger for Drew Sutton.
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Justice is on the radio claiming that the Astros' game notes originally reported the deal as Keppinger for Drew Sutton.
No way...
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Noe, how can they have better useful players?
Younger, cheaper, better, more talented, faster, better gloves... what exactly are you looking for to quantify "better"?
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He says that they were quickly withdrawn and "corrected", but that he is very worried that Sutton is the PTBNL.
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No way...
IF so, Ed Wade once again overpays. At least it wasn't Sutton and Bogesevic! *sigh*
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Footer coming up on 1560. We'll see what she has to say.
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By Alyson Footer / MLB.com
KISSIMMEE, Fla. -- The Houston Astros have acquired infielder Jeff Keppinger from the Cincinnati Reds for a player to be named later or cash considerations.
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Younger, cheaper, better, more talented, faster, better gloves... what exactly are you looking for to quantify "better"?
I was being facetious. Of course, they can have better players.
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Footer's got it, too. (http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090331&content_id=4096570&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou)
ETA: She also mentions that Maysonet is down to Round Rock. I guess that makes Smith the utility guy.
Smith has more gloves than Maysonet. They have Smith, Keppinger, and Blum backing up at short and 2nd.
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By Alyson Footer / MLB.com
KISSIMMEE, Fla. -- The Houston Astros have acquired infielder Jeff Keppinger from the Cincinnati Reds for a player to be named later or cash considerations.
who gets to choose?
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who gets to choose?
IIRC, The Astros will provide a list of 3 to 5 names, if the Reds don't want any of them, they can choose the cash.
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who gets to choose?
Or do they take what's in THE BOX! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KezvwARhBIc)
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Or do they take what's in THE BOX! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KezvwARhBIc)
This reminds me of:
Peter chooses the BOX on Family Guy
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQA_-TXVDTU)
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I just spent the last 15 minutes or so listening to 1560. Let me ask - isn't sitting in traffic on the Katy Freeway bad enough? Why must people torture themselves further? Even with Footer on that shit is a total embarrassment. It makes Wheel of Fortune look like an intellectual feast.
Edit - Believe it or not I wrote the above prior to looking at GBB's link.
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Keppinger familiar with backing up Matsui
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/13/sports/baseball/13mets.html
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I just spent the last 15 minutes or so listening to 1560. Let me ask - isn't sitting in traffic on the Katy Freeway bad enough? Why must people torture themselves further? Even with Footer on that shit is a total embarrassment. It makes Wheel of Fortune look like an intellectual feast.
Edit - Believe it or not I wrote the above prior to looking at GBB's link.
I missed it. Did she confirm/deny Justice's perspective on this?
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Or do they take what's in THE BOX! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KezvwARhBIc)
Let's hope we can say, "you so stupid, Jocketty!!!"
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I read limited range at short on a few websites. He could spell Tejada there for sure, but probably not move him over.
He has played about 2/3 of his MLB innings at SS, so somebody in baseball thinks he can play the position.
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For what its worth the guy rakes against Cubs pitching and has had an usual amount of at-bats against them as opposed to even other teams other NL Central teams..
29gms 105abs 36hits 11rbi 11/6 bb/k ratio .343avg .420obp
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I believe so, but only if traded within the same league (which is the case here). If it were a different league (re: American league) then the restriction is not applicable. Or so I remember.
Actually, I believe it's a requirement that the PTBNL must change leagues, which means if it's two NL or two AL teams, the player cannot be on the 40-man. Sorta the same thing you said only different.
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So then it's not Sutton, at least not at this point in time.
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He says that they were quickly withdrawn and "corrected", but that he is very worried that Sutton is the PTBNL.
Still says Sutton. Link (http://presspass.mlb.com/pp_viewer.asp?d=43895)
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I missed it. Did she confirm/deny Justice's perspective on this?
She said that she didn't think it was Sutton but if it was Sutton she'd be fine with that. They mainly talked about Firehouse Subs and Las Vegas odds. It is a fucking unfathomable cesspool of idiocy.
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He has played about 2/3 of his MLB innings at SS, so somebody in baseball thinks he can play the position.
Yes but in order to move Tejada to 3rd you'd have to be better than he is. Otherwise they are not going to screw around with Tejada. So limited range, especially after the shattered knee cap would not translate into moving Tejada to 3rd. FWIW, I've read Kippenger has has average range at 3rd.
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She said that she didn't think it was Sutton but if it was Sutton she'd be fine with that. They mainly talked about Firehouse Subs and Las Vegas odds. It is a fucking unfathomable cesspool of idiocy.
Were you not prepared for this based on watching the Headhunter videos?
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“Maybe the opportunity is better for me over there,” (Astros) Keppinger said. “Maybe I'll get the chance to play. Looking around here, (Reds) it didn't look like I was going to play too much.”
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/6352049.html
A guy with problems with his butt, this one over here who is a DWI away from being deported and another dude who can’t spell Jeff.
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Yes but in order to move Tejada to 3rd you'd have to be better than he is. Otherwise they are not going to screw around with Tejada. So limited range, especially after the shattered knee cap would not translate into moving Tejada to 3rd. FWIW, I've read Kippenger has has average range at 3rd.
Range at third? Whaaa?
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Were you not prepared for this based on watching the Headhunter videos?
The what?
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Range at third? Whaaa?
Yes I am aware range is much less importance at 3rd, hence the FWIW
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Range at third? Whaaa?
Beat me to it.
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The what?
Psst...chuck. There's a front page. (http://www.spikesnstars.com/)
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Yes but in order to move Tejada to 3rd you'd have to be better than he is. Otherwise they are not going to screw around with Tejada. So limited range, especially after the shattered knee cap would not translate into moving Tejada to 3rd. FWIW, I've read Kippenger has has average range at 3rd.
there is no such thing as "range at 3rd."
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there is no such thing as "range at 3rd."
Range at 3rd base = That space between you and the line.
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Fine, Keppinger has average reaction time at third. Better?
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Fine, Keppinger has average reaction time at third. Better?
Means that Keppinger never ever steps on the field without a cup.
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Range at 3rd base = That space between you and the line.
This reminded me of a MLBTradeRumors email I got this morning. From their Yankmee's preview:
The Yankees were the second-to-worst defensive team in the AL last year according to The Fielding Bible II. They could gain 40 runs on defense by employing Teixeira and Nady over Giambi and Abreu.
Aside from their blatant disregard to the elephant in the room (who plays SS), I'm positive this number of runs was pulled out of someone's arse. I recognize the importance of employing a defensively-sound RF (for which I'm not sure Nady qualifies), but is Teixiera that much better than Giambi? How much does 1B really matter?
And, yes, I watched the late innings of the DR loss to the Netherlands. Just curious.
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Trading for Keppinger is only half of the process. Now it has to be determined if Cooper will actually play him against left handers.
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Range at third? Whaaa?
Kind of puts the rest of his comments into perspective.
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Fine, Keppinger has average reaction time at third. Better?
See also Lansford, Carney.
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Means that Keppinger never ever steps on the field without a cup.
So ... Geoff & Jeff ... Two 3Bmen, One cup?
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Fine, Keppinger has average reaction time at third. Better?
That is different. Reaction (cat-like reaction) is critical at third, hence why most think that catchers make for good third baseman. What you want out of your third baseman is the following: Good reaction, good glove, excellent footwork, strong and accurate arm. Not in that order, but you check off those items so you can evaluate how good of a defensive third baseman you have.
If the litmus test would be found in a player, I can't think of anyone better than Scott Rolen in his prime. Dude had tremendous accuracy, a very strong arm, great reaction time and a gold standard for glove work around the bag. You rarely saw Rolen in a bad position when he got set to throw, his ability to go from a catch to a throw position quickly was awe inspiring.
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That is different. Reaction (cat-like reaction) is critical at third, hence why most think that catchers make for good third baseman. What you want out of your third baseman is the following: Good reaction, good glove, excellent footwork, strong and accurate arm. Not in that order, but you check off those items so you can evaluate how good of a defensive third baseman you have.
If the litmus test would be found in a player, I can't think of anyone better than Scott Rolen in his prime. Dude had tremendous accuracy, a very strong arm, great reaction time and a gold standard for glove work around the bag. You rarely saw Rolen in a bad position when he got set to throw, his ability to go from a catch to a throw position quickly was awe inspiring.
more than anything elase: a strong chest
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That is different. Reaction (cat-like reaction) is critical at third, hence why most think that catchers make for good third baseman. What you want out of your third baseman is the following: Good reaction, good glove, excellent footwork, strong and accurate arm. Not in that order, but you check off those items so you can evaluate how good of a defensive third baseman you have.
If the litmus test would be found in a player, I can't think of anyone better than Scott Rolen in his prime. Dude had tremendous accuracy, a very strong arm, great reaction time and a gold standard for glove work around the bag. You rarely saw Rolen in a bad position when he got set to throw, his ability to go from a catch to a throw position quickly was awe inspiring.
This is how I was taught to "build" an infield, that is, select players for the positions
1b...glove, anything else is a bonus
2b...glove, range
3b...arm
ss...glove, arm, range
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good for my AL-only fantasy team: i have mark teahen and was afraid he'd be traded out of the AL to the astros.
i hope the astros at least asked about teahen, for the sake of ed wade being on top of things.
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The Lizard on Drew Sutton:
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Baker said during pregame warmups that the Reds could get 25-year-old shortstop Drew Sutton from the Astros in the deal. Sutton hit .317 with 20 homers and 69 RBIs in 133 games for Double-A Corpus Christi last season.
“We get a player to be named later and I assume it’s going to be him,” Baker said. “The Astros told me he has good skills, good talent and good speed. They told me he’s a ballplayer.”
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=290401118
Referencing HH from above, how is this happening? With Sutton on the 40-man roster, he would be ineligible. Possibly, is the rule 25-man roster instead of 40-man?
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IF so, Ed Wade once again overpays. At least it wasn't Sutton and Bogesevic! *sigh*
I want to be Ed Wade's car dealer.
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Maybe I am missing the sarcasm, but getting a player who the Astros feel can fill a major league roster spot, and only giving up Sutton seems like an easy decision.
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Maybe I am missing the sarcasm, but getting a player who the Astros feel can fill a major league roster spot, and only giving up Sutton seems like an easy decision.
The Astros have been giving up next year's starters for this year's journeyman for way too long.
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My thoughts exactly.
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Referencing HH from above, how is this happening? With Sutton on the 40-man roster, he would be ineligible. Possibly, is the rule 25-man roster instead of 40-man?
To clarify...you're right, it's the 25-man, not the 40-man. A PTBNL cannot be an active Major League player, but can be on the 40-man.
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To clarify...you're right, it's the 25-man, not the 40-man. A PTBNL cannot be an active Major League player, but can be on the 40-man.
Yeah, I thought it was major league time that dictated whether he can be shipped within the league.
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Yeah, I thought it was major league time that dictated whether he can be shipped within the league.
Well, if he's not an active ML player, then he changes leagues.
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The Astros have been giving up next year's starters for this year's journeyman for way too long.
Yes, that is the idea. What would make this a win-win situation is if Houston was *only* one missing piece away from being a contender. Re: a platoon third baseman at best, a possible journeyman player at worse is not typically what one calls a missing piece away from being a contender, but then again, this is Ed Wade who traded for Hawkins and Wolf last year and darn near had his club in the playoffs. The way it looks right now is that Cincy got the better of the deal because they got younger by trading away a guy they had no roster spot for. That's good horse trading. Ed Wade, however, did what he had to do... Chris Johnson is not... repeat *NOT* ready.
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Has it been officially announced that PTBNL = Sutton?
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Has it been officially announced that PTBNL = Sutton?
Not officially, just rumor from Dusty Baker.
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Yes, that is the idea. What would make this a win-win situation is if Houston was *only* one missing piece away from being a contender. Re: a platoon third baseman at best, a possible journeyman player at worse is not typically what one calls a missing piece away from being a contender, but then again, this is Ed Wade who traded for Hawkins and Wolf last year and darn near had his club in the playoffs. The way it looks right now is that Cincy got the better of the deal because they got younger by trading away a guy they had no roster spot for. That's good horse trading. Ed Wade, however, did what he had to do... Chris Johnson is not... repeat *NOT* ready.
Sutton might be a big loss. Then again, he might be a career minor leaguer who never makes the majors. The Astros must have had some questions about him. He was 25 repeating AA last year.
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Sutton might be a big loss. Then again, he might be a career minor leaguer who never makes the majors. The Astros must have had some questions about him. He was 25 repeating AA last year.
I call this selling high. Sutton had not shown much before last year and may have just peaked.
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The Astros have been giving up next year's starters for this year's journeyman for way too long.
And which "next year's starters" became actual starters?
Granted, the Jennings deal turned out to be a disaster and it likely cost Purpura his job, but I don't see that as evidence of a pattern of bad trades. Scott and Albers have been quality additions for the Orioles, but Miguel Tejada has been a solid add for the Astros. The jury is still out on the Lidge deal.
Zobrist and Talbot haven't exactly proven Palillo correct.
Burke and Qualls for Valverde? No question about the wisdom of that move. And need I remind you of what the experts said about the acquisitions of Wolf, Hawkins, and Erstad last year?
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And which "next year's starters" became actual starters?
Granted, the Jennings deal turned out to be a disaster and it likely cost Purpura his job, but I don't see that as evidence of a pattern of bad trades. Scott and Albers have been quality additions for the Orioles, but Miguel Tejada has been a solid add for the Astros. The jury is still out on the Lidge deal.
Zobrist and Talbot haven't exactly proven Palillo correct.
Burke and Qualls for Valverde? No question about the wisdom of that move. And need I remind you of what the experts said about the acquisitions of Wolf, Hawkins, and Erstad last year?
And remember Troy Patton was the "jewel" in the Tejada trade and he missed all of last season with surgery and will start this year at AA. Not exactly a difference maker if he were still with the Astros.
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To be clear: I was talking about Wade's habit of overpaying.
He threw in Bruntlett in the Lidge deal and then had to look for a backup INF.
He thew in Sarfate on the Tejada deal at the last minute, when he would have had all the leverage a day later.
He has, by all estimates, given up a top-10 prospect when CIncy was dealing a guy they might end up releasing.
It's not that he's adding bad pieces, it's that he's willing to pay $2.10/gallon just to avoid the left turn to the $1.90/gallon pump across the street.
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The Astros have been giving up next year's starters for this year's journeyman for way too long.
Where do you think Sutton was going to start next year? He's not considered a ML SS and Matsui is signed IIRC thru '10.
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Isn't Sutton just an unpolished, younger version of Keppinger?
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To be clear: I was talking about Wade's habit of overpaying.
He threw in Bruntlett in the Lidge deal and then had to look for a backup INF.
He thew in Sarfate on the Tejada deal at the last minute, when he would have had all the leverage a day later.
He has, by all estimates, given up a top-10 prospect when CIncy was dealing a guy they might end up releasing.
It's not that he's adding bad pieces, it's that he's willing to pay $2.10/gallon just to avoid the left turn to the $1.90/gallon pump across the street.
A top 10 prospect that might not crack the top 15 in other org's. He was being groomed as a utility player in the AFL. A guy who can platoon now verses a guy who might be a good bench player later is a good trade IMHO
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A top 10 prospect that might not crack the top 15 in other org's. He was being groomed as a utility player in the AFL. A guy who can platoon now verses a guy who might be a good bench player later is a good trade IMHO
I agree. Personnel moves are easy to second guess from the cheap seats.
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All this chatter is well and good, but what does Baseball Prospectus say?
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All this chatter is well and good, but what does Baseball Prospectus say?
BP can kiss my grits.
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At least we can be grateful that Coop doesn't set his watch by BP's recommendations.
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BP can kiss my grits.
You might want to wash those grits afterwords...
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A top 10 prospect that might not crack the top 15 in other org's. He was being groomed as a utility player in the AFL. A guy who can platoon now verses a guy who might be a good bench player later is a good trade IMHO
Thank you for posting this. I seriously feel like my head is going to explode when fans either praise or criticize deals by team prospect ranking systems, because without any context they're completely irrelevant. The #1 prospect in one system might be the #15 prospect in another... or vice versa, etc. In the case of the Astros, the system is perceived as being weak now, so the numbers are inflated. I certainly haven't seen any projections of Sutton being more than a good bench player, so I wouldn't lose sleep if he is the PTBNL.
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I'm losing sleep anyway, so I'll continue with my previously recorded program.
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Thank you for posting this. I seriously feel like my head is going to explode when fans either praise or criticize deals by team prospect ranking systems, because without any context they're completely irrelevant. The #1 prospect in one system might be the #15 prospect in another... or vice versa, etc. In the case of the Astros, the system is perceived as being weak now, so the numbers are inflated. I certainly haven't seen any projections of Sutton being more than a good bench player, so I wouldn't lose sleep if he is the PTBNL.
Actually, I probably started the whining if it were Sutton that they traded. Again, it's nothing against Keppinger nor in praise of Sutton that I made such a comment. What I said was that Ed Wade just gave up young for what seems like an older version of the same player. However, that is why you have scouts and you look at guys to make sure you know what you're getting. That Cincy was really close to letting Keppinger go because they wanted to go younger for the same job makes one think that either the prospects that the Reds think they have are much better than the prospects that Houston has that the Astros would not consider elevating not only Sutton but Chris Johnson as well or the Reds can't see the value of Keppinger and have scouts who really suck!
So that tells you right there that Wade *had* to make this deal and now he has to hope it works out. Keppinger isn't someone you go looking for per se, I don't care what stats say. He's been at best a utility player his major league time. But you know, if this is how it has to be because this is making lemonade out of lemons, then it's a good thing on Wade's part. But what I hear fans, media and pundits continue to say is why are the Astros constantly pretending to be in contention when they would be better off just giving jobs to youngsters and letting them play. Someone rightfully said it: trading your only prospects from the minors for average players is not the way to rebuild the farm club nor have youngsters ready for callup when you need them. But that is because Houston doesn't rebuild, they reload. Want any more evidence than this that this is your Houston Astros?
But Sutton isn't officially the guy traded so it's all a moot point until he is on his way to Cincy.
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But Sutton isn't officially the guy traded so it's all a moot point until he is on his way to Cincy.
Right. It could be Johnson or Bogusevic.
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Again, it's nothing against Keppinger nor in praise of Sutton that I made such a comment. What I said was that Ed Wade just gave up young for what seems like an older version of the same player.
If they profile similarly then the biggest difference, and IMO the only one that matters in this case, is that Keppinger is major league experienced (at least somewhat successfully at that) and Sutton is not. Wade clearly values experience over youth in this instance.
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If they profile similarly then the biggest difference, and IMO the only one that matters in this case, is that Keppinger is major league experienced (at least somewhat successfully at that) and Sutton is not. Wade clearly values experience over youth in this instance.
And the overriding issue is that the owner does not believe in rebuilding... reloading, yes, that he believes in. So as a GM you have to find lightning in the bottle from less young players and more fringe veterans. Overall a good plan, but it's not the usual MOD for mlb organizations. Houston is different in that regard, the owner wants to win every year.
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Houston is different in that regard, the owner wants to win every year.
Which is a trait that should be applauded. Sometimes rebuilding is not a bad option, but executing it is trickier than some fans realize.
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And the overriding issue is that the owner does not believe in rebuilding... reloading, yes, that he believes in. So as a GM you have to find lightning in the bottle from less young players and more fringe veterans. Overall a good plan, but it's not the usual MOD for mlb organizations. Houston is different in that regard, the owner wants to win every year.
which is a good reason to love the Astros.
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which is a good reason to love the Astros.
I agree wholeheartedly. Clubs too often go into the well of their fans' patience by telling them that they are rebuilding. See, Chicago Cubs. Believe it or not, one year the Cubs (under Andy McPhail) had a PR slogan of "The Chicago Cubs: we're working on it."
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I agree wholeheartedly. Clubs too often go into the well of their fans' patience by telling them that they are rebuilding. See, Chicago Cubs. Believe it or not, one year the Cubs (under Andy McPhail) had a PR slogan of "The Chicago Cubs: we're working on it."
"The Chicago Cubs: As productive as a Boston construction project!"
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I'm kind of partial to rebuilding efforts. The Astros teams of the early 90's were some of my favorites.
Wish we could have gotten Janish from the Reds. He's an incredible talent in the field.
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which is a good reason to love the Astros.
This thread is awesome!
Just to recap - what began as a thread about the acquisition of a utility infielder, quickly made its way through the finer points of PBTNL agreements, the proper evaluation of 3rd basemen, a glancing overview of our current GM's trade tendencies, includes feedback on the likely PBNL from our resident Bus Ride gurus, gives a fine FU to both BP and the Cubs, contains at least 1 proper Noe multi-paragraph post, reminds us that BG is first and foremost concerned about how the newly acquired player will fill out a uniform and after 6 pages...Coach reminds us that this is why we love the Astros.
Huzzah!
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This thread is awesome!
Just to recap - what began as a thread about the acquisition of a utility infielder, quickly made its way through the finer points of PBTNL agreements, the proper evaluation of 3rd basemen, a glancing overview of our current GM's trade tendencies, includes feedback on the likely PBNL from our resident Bus Ride gurus, gives a fine FU to both BP and the Cubs, contains at least 1 proper Noe multi-paragraph post, reminds us that BG is first and foremost concerned about how the newly acquired player will fill out a uniform and after 6 pages...Coach reminds us that this is why we love the Astros.
Huzzah!
I said nothing about Keppinger.
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And the overriding issue is that the owner does not believe in rebuilding... reloading, yes, that he believes in. So as a GM you have to find lightning in the bottle from less young players and more fringe veterans. Overall a good plan, but it's not the usual MOD for mlb organizations. Houston is different in that regard, the owner wants to win every year.
Also, Ed Wade appears to insist on putting square pegs in square holes even if it means sacrificing overall talent level. Tim Purpura seemed less able or more timid about doing that.
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Also, Ed Wade appears to insist on putting square pegs in square holes even if it means sacrificing overall talent level. Tim Purpura seemed less able or more timid about doing that.
Who have we sacrificed?
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I said nothing about Keppinger.
Ahh you are right, my apologies, in my zeal I missed the reference to Mr Smith. I'lll edit my post appropriately, wouldn't want to mislead anyone.
Edit - oops, didn't realize that you can only edit your last post. So by posting this I removed the ability to rectify my error. So Keppinger does nothing for you at all, maybe just a little?
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Who have we sacrificed?
Well, I keep volunteering Noe, but he seems adverse to electroshock therapy.
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Well, I keep volunteering Noe, but he seems adverse to electroshock therapy.
You have to kill him one word at a time. No one has that kind of stamina.
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At the RR game last night I was surprised to see that D. Sutton was in the starting line-up given all the speculation about him being the PTNBL in the trade.
Understanding those rumors were never confirmed (other than being in the official game notes one day...and later vanishing), has there been any further rumblings regarding the PTNBL? Thanks.
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"Sutton was the guy all along," Jocketty said. "We just wanted to see him some more. We think he's a better fit for us."
"He's a guy we like a lot," Jocketty said. "He's a good athlete, he plays a number of positons, he can run, he's a switch-hitter."
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