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Title: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: pravata on February 18, 2009, 02:06:46 pm
Who will play SS on Tejadas days off? 

Gottfried:  A combination of Blum and whoever makes the club as our utility infielder. 

Who are the candidates for utility infielder? 
 
Gottfried:  Tommy Manzella, Edwin Maysonet, Jason Smith, David Newhan, Matt Kata, Drew Sutton.   The first three guys can play a real solid SS if needed.   The others are primarily 2B, OF, and corner infielders. 
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Noe on February 18, 2009, 02:11:48 pm
Who will play SS on Tejadas days off? 

Gottfried:  A combination of Blum and whoever makes the club as our utility infielder. 

Who are the candidates for utility infielder? 
 
Gottfried:  Tommy Manzella, Edwin Maysonet, Jason Smith, David Newhan, Matt Kata, Drew Sutton.   The first three guys can play a real solid SS if needed.   The others are primarily 2B, OF, and corner infielders. 

Watch me jinx one of them: "I bet Edwin Maysonet comes out of spring really pushing for a position on the 25 man roster.  In fact, he'll probably be pushing for a starting job, with Tejada moving over to third" - me.  Okay, now expect Maysonet to break an arm the first day of camp.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: JimR on February 18, 2009, 02:14:50 pm
Watch me jinx one of them: "I bet Edwin Maysonet comes out of spring really pushing for a position on the 25 man roster.  In fact, he'll probably be pushing for a starting job, with Tejada moving over to third" - me.  Okay, now expect Maysonet to break an arm the first day of camp.

i'll balance it out: "Maysonet sucks." this means he'll make the HOF after only one season.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: chuck on February 18, 2009, 07:59:23 pm
Watch me jinx one of them: "I bet Edwin Maysonet comes out of spring really pushing for a position on the 25 man roster.  In fact, he'll probably be pushing for a starting job, with Tejada moving over to third" - me.  Okay, now expect Maysonet to break an arm the first day of camp.

You know what? From what I've seen of him in ST these last several years I was thinking the exact same thing reading this, that Maysonet has a real chance to make the team. He plays great defense and is faster than a wet pig and from what I've seen has some sense about himself when running the bases. What's more, the coaches seem to really like him.

I didn't get as far as Tejada to third in my musings, but they were indeed brief.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: JimR on February 18, 2009, 08:11:39 pm
Faster than a wet pig? WTF?
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: JaneDoe on February 18, 2009, 08:12:07 pm
Maysonet is faster than a wet pig

He'll make the big leagues for sure with that scouting report.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: MRaup on February 19, 2009, 12:16:07 am
He'll make the big leagues for sure with that scouting report.

If nothing else, it will deter any otherwise interest A&M graduates.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Houston on February 19, 2009, 07:35:47 am
Faster than a wet pig? WTF?

I think his assessment provided more psychological insight than he ever intended.

BTW, I think the metaphor he mixed was "greased pig," but that has more to do with the ability to be elusive than outright speed.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: HudsonHawk on February 19, 2009, 07:40:42 am
I think his assessment provided more psychological insight than he ever intended.

BTW, I think the metaphor he mixed was "greased pig," but that has more to do with the ability to be elusive than outright speed.


Mixed metaphors can be fun.  Like the time my girlfriend told me at the dinner table in front of her parents:  "It's time you put out or shut up."
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: MikeyBoy on February 19, 2009, 07:49:59 am

Mixed metaphors can be fun.  Like the time my girlfriend told me at the dinner table in front of her parents:  "It's time you put out or shut up."

"Me an' the old lady are gonna pick up the pieces and retie the knot, mixaphorically speaking." - Ulysses Everett McGill
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Jacksonian on February 19, 2009, 08:31:36 am
Watch me jinx one of them: "I bet Edwin Maysonet comes out of spring really pushing for a position on the 25 man roster.  In fact, he'll probably be pushing for a starting job, with Tejada moving over to third" - me.  Okay, now expect Maysonet to break an arm the first day of camp.

Maysonet's problem as far as trying to make the bigs as a regular has always been his inability to hit consistently.  But as the 25th player, late inning defensive replacement, pinch runner, very occasional spot starter, that role suits him very well.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Duman on February 19, 2009, 08:45:12 am
I remember sitting talking to a pitcher in Salem one day and he said he loved playing with Maysonet behind him.  He may be a solid late inning replacement.  He has all of his options and a lower ceiling than Manzella.  They will want Manzella playing everyday so he won't be the 25th man.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: VirtualBob on February 19, 2009, 09:17:14 am
I remember sitting talking to a pitcher in Salem one day and he said he loved playing with Maysonet behind him.  He may be a solid late inning replacement.  He has all of his options and a lower ceiling than Manzella.  They will want Manzella playing everyday so he won't be the 25th man.
Maysonet has also logged significant time at both middle infield positions (playing them both well) and spent some time in the OF.  Manzella is a SS only (at least for now).
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: JimR on February 19, 2009, 09:18:35 am

Mixed metaphors can be fun.  Like the time my girlfriend told me at the dinner table in front of her parents:  "It's time you put out or shut up."

which did you choose?
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: pravata on February 19, 2009, 09:20:06 am
which did you choose?

Well he aint shut up.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: HudsonHawk on February 19, 2009, 09:21:16 am
which did you choose?


I was saving myself.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Reuben on February 19, 2009, 10:33:26 am

Mixed metaphors can be fun.  Like the time my girlfriend told me at the dinner table in front of her parents:  "It's time you put out or shut up."
My dad loves to tell about the time my uncle told him "don't chew with your mouth full." (not a metaphor, I know).
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Hornstros on February 19, 2009, 11:10:35 am
my buddy keeps trying to kill a bird with two stones...hasn't worked for him yet
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: HudsonHawk on February 19, 2009, 11:56:29 am
my buddy keeps trying to kill a bird with two stones...hasn't worked for him yet


That's not reallly mixing metaphors, just confusion.  Examples of mixed metaphors:

1.  "a rolling stone is worth two in the bush"
2.  "biting the hand that rocks the cradle"
3.  "that's the way the cookie bounces"
4.  "haven't we beat that horse with an ugly stick"
V.  "came out smelling like a bandit"
6.  "as much fun as shooting monkeys in a barrel".
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: JaneDoe on February 19, 2009, 12:01:20 pm

6.  "as much fun as shooting monkeys in a barrel".

Shouldn't that be:

6. "as much fun as shooting chimps opening your cruiser door"?
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: VirtualBob on February 19, 2009, 12:18:14 pm

That's not reallly mixing metaphors, just confusion.  Examples of mixed metaphors:

1. 
2. 
3. 
4. 
V.   "came out smelling like a bandit"
6.   

Nice mixing in of another metaphor (or something).  Nominated.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Duman on February 19, 2009, 12:56:01 pm
Not mixed by an old boss used to say:

There is more than one way to skin a cat.... some are just more fun than others.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Lurch on February 19, 2009, 01:05:02 pm
They usually have their own spot in the Dilbert Newsletters.

"That's my sixth cents, for what it's worth."
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: kevwun on February 19, 2009, 01:36:38 pm
"It's all water under the dam." - Bob Stoops
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: strosrays on February 19, 2009, 01:48:02 pm

"We'll burn that bridge when we come to it."  I've used that a few times.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Bench on February 19, 2009, 02:05:39 pm
"That train has sailed"
- Frank Drebin.

And a co-worker of mine:  "It's as easy as falling off a bike.  Once you learn, you'll never forget."
Title: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: geezerdonk on February 19, 2009, 02:15:57 pm
I guess that a mixed metaphor is a form of malapropism.
The subject brings the lamented Bill Peterson to mind.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Astroholic on February 19, 2009, 02:38:30 pm
I guess that a mixed metaphor is a form of malapropism.
The subject brings the lamented Bill Peterson comes to mind.

Co worker of my "Can't judge a book by its color".
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: strosrays on February 19, 2009, 02:44:05 pm
I guess that a mixed metaphor is a form of malapropism.
The subject brings the lamented Bill Peterson comes to mind.


"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl."
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: strosrays on February 19, 2009, 02:47:55 pm
I had a football coach in high school who got pissed off at something I said to him at practice. 

So he yelled, "Stick that up your ass and smoke it!"
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Limey on February 19, 2009, 02:48:16 pm
"That train has sailed"
- Frank Drebin.

And a co-worker of mine:  "It's as easy as falling off a bike.  Once you learn, you'll never forget."

Classic Drebin:

I couldn't believe it was her.  It was like a dream.  But there she was, just as I remembered her.  That delicately beautiful face.  And a body that could melt a cheese sandwich from across the room.  And breasts that seemed to say... ”Hey! Look at these!"
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: HudsonHawk on February 19, 2009, 03:30:22 pm
Nice mixing in of another metaphor (or something).  Nominated.


I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that.  An extra ration of rum for you, my good man.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: HudsonHawk on February 19, 2009, 03:32:23 pm
Not mixed by an old boss used to say:

There is more than one way to skin a cat.... some are just more fun than others.


Reminds me of:

"What is happiness?  A good cigar, a good meal, and a good woman - or a bad woman.  Depends on how much happiness you can take." - George Burns
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: HudsonHawk on February 19, 2009, 03:34:52 pm
"That train has sailed"
- Frank Drebin.

And a co-worker of mine:  "It's as easy as falling off a bike.  Once you learn, you'll never forget."


"Boys, bunting is like jacking off...once you learn how, you never forget."  - Joe Schultz
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: HudsonHawk on February 19, 2009, 03:36:08 pm

"Men, I want you just thinking of one word all season. One word and one word only: Super Bowl."


"Oh yeah, well I got two words for you:  shut the fuck up!" - Robert DeNiro in Midnight Run
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Noe on February 19, 2009, 05:57:13 pm

That's not reallly mixing metaphors, just confusion.  Examples of mixed metaphors:

1.  "a rolling stone is worth two in the bush"
2.  "biting the hand that rocks the cradle"
3.  "that's the way the cookie bounces"
4.  "haven't we beat that horse with an ugly stick"
V.  "came out smelling like a bandit"
6.  "as much fun as shooting monkeys in a barrel".

"let's run that up a flagpole, see if it makes a splash" (Me, said it during a meeting on purpose to see if anyone was listening.  No one reacted)
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: chuck on February 19, 2009, 06:55:26 pm
I was once thinking about participating in a real estate deal in the mountains of far western North Carolina. The agent's name was Gribble, which I loved. On the way to the property you'd pass all these ramshackle houses and trailers all with scores and scores of plastic milk containers strewn about the yard. I thought, Damn, these people are serious about their calcium intake. Turns out the jugs are somehow useful in the making of methamphetamines. Anyway, one day I optimistically referred to the houses as "local color." Gribble looked at me quizzically for a moment and said, Aint no color there - them's all white folks.

Another time he referred to the seller of some item or another as "higher'n balls on a giraffe." That saying makes sense, of course, but since that time I've enjoyed making up similar sorts of comparisons that do not make any sense.

I realize that my explanation must take most of the romance out of the wet pig, and for that I apologize.

Other mis-sayings that I enjoy:

Six of one, half a dozen or the other.

A horse of a different feather.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Houston on February 20, 2009, 07:02:24 am

That's not reallly mixing metaphors, just confusion.  Examples of mixed metaphors:

1.  "a rolling stone is worth two in the bush"
2.  "biting the hand that rocks the cradle"
3.  "that's the way the cookie bounces"
4.  "haven't we beat that horse with an ugly stick"
V.  "came out smelling like a bandit"
6.  "as much fun as shooting monkeys in a barrel".

During A-Rod's press conference the other day, he said "I've laid my bed, now I'm have to sit on it."

Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: WakePhil on February 20, 2009, 09:14:29 am
Really enjoyed this one from back in the Stevie Franchise days...

"We've been hearing the last four, five, six games in a row that we're the worst team since sliced bread."
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Duman on February 20, 2009, 09:16:26 am
Former Auburn coach Pat Dye -

"Hindsight is 50/50."
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: petner on February 20, 2009, 09:48:25 am
My favorite:
"It ain't rocket surgery"
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Joel on February 20, 2009, 02:09:01 pm
How much weight would you guys give to the fact that Maysonet has had a jersey number listed for a while.

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=hou

Obviously not a lot but I would say he is the favorite from the start.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: JimR on February 20, 2009, 02:12:07 pm
How much weight would you guys give to the fact that Maysonet has had a jersey number listed for a while.

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=hou

Obviously not a lot but I would say he is the favorite from the start.

better than getting something like 78, but "favorite" may be a bit strong.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: eeemess on February 20, 2009, 02:17:53 pm
   I'll drive off that bridge when I get to it.

    Ted Kennedy
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: JimR on February 20, 2009, 02:38:33 pm
   I'll drive off that bridge when I get to it.

    Ted Kennedy

not funny. if this is the best you can do, STFU.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Duman on February 20, 2009, 03:31:33 pm
How much weight would you guys give to the fact that Maysonet has had a jersey number listed for a while.

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=hou

Obviously not a lot but I would say he is the favorite from the start.

Using that logic, he has a better chance of making the roster than Mike Hampton who doesn't even have a # listed.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: VirtualBob on February 20, 2009, 04:05:17 pm
Using that logic, he has a better chance of making the roster than Mike Hampton who doesn't even have a # listed.
Logic?  All it means is that he actually got to wear his jersey for a couple of games during his September call-up last year.  It's not like they have a shortage of jerseys or anything such that they have to be careful not to assign them to anyone without a chance to make the team.  And with substantially fewer than 99 players in camp, I doubt they are short of numbers, either.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: chuck on February 20, 2009, 04:19:56 pm
I'll be curious to see if Maysonet has his name on the back of his jersey this spring. The last several years he was nameless.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Señor Stan on February 23, 2009, 01:19:02 pm
Our HR director just used "sweating cats and dogs" and "sreaming bloody Mary". in her presentation.

I'm not even kidding.   
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: VirtualBob on February 23, 2009, 01:31:31 pm
... "sreaming bloody Mary". ...

I'm not even kidding.   
Huh?
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Señor Stan on February 23, 2009, 01:39:44 pm
In context, I think she was reaching for "screaming bloody murder."

I can't say for sure, though.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: JimR on February 23, 2009, 01:44:23 pm
Huh?

malaprop
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: VirtualBob on February 23, 2009, 02:37:36 pm
malaprop

It was the "sreaming" that confused me.  But since I have been reading quite a bit of Tudor history recently, I missed the "Bloody Mary"/"bloody murder" snafu altogether.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Mr. Happy on February 23, 2009, 02:45:28 pm
During a hurricane panic, the late Vic Schiro, then mayor of New Orleans, said "don't believe any false rumors unless you hear them from me."
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: toddthebod on February 23, 2009, 03:34:12 pm
During A-Rod's press conference the other day, he said "I've laid my bed, now I'm have to sit on it."



That's cause he doesn't actually sleep.  The roids keep him up at night.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: MikeyBoy on February 23, 2009, 04:06:26 pm
That's cause he doesn't actually sleep.  The roids keep him up at night.

I thought Madonna kept him up?
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on February 23, 2009, 04:54:04 pm
I thought Madonna kept him up?

Madonna hasn't been able to keep any man up since she started looking like beef jerky with blonde hair.
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: matadorph on February 23, 2009, 05:05:35 pm
Madonna hasn't been able to keep any man up since she started looking like beef jerky with blonde chin hair.

FIFY (http://thesuperficial.com//bfm_gallery/2009/02/0222%20Madonna%20Chin%20Hair/gallery_main/gallery_main-0222_madonna_chinhair_01.jpg)
Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on February 23, 2009, 07:39:36 pm
Ralph Kiner gave us these gems:

"If Branch Rickey was alive today, he'd be spinning in his grave."

"All of the Mets' road wins against the Dodgers this year have been at Dodger Stadium"

"All of his saves have come in relief appearances."

Title: Re: News from David Gottfried's chat in Ortiz's blog
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on February 23, 2009, 08:01:27 pm
From the idiot savant broadcaster Mike Shannon:

“He ran to second faster than a cat in Chinatown.”

“Our next home stand follows this road trip.”

Joe: “Mike, the Cardinals would like to welcome a group of 19 French foreign exchange students in section 382 today.” Mike: “Where they from Joe?” Joe: “Uhhh… France… I think.”

“Oooh, that last pitch inside was a bit questionable and he’d like to say something to the umpire, but he won’t say anything. At least not verbally.”

“The wind has switched 360 degrees”.

“The Dodgers are ahead by 5 runs or 3 runs or in between there somewhere.”

“Horner’s arguing, he wants an interference call against Cangeloni. Now Cangeloni’s got something to say, but here comes Whitey to give a taste of his vocabulary, and it’ll have extra mustard on it.”

(About what elevated Whitey Herzog as a manager) ”The key thing is, he has that photogenic mind.”

....