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Title: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 13, 2008, 03:32:50 pm
I've got Rays fever!   They are going to have a tough time against Jon Lester.  Anyone else watching or listening?
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 13, 2008, 03:37:51 pm
I've got Rays fever!   They are going to have a tough time against Jon Lester.  Anyone else watching or listening?

Steve Irwin...NOT!
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 13, 2008, 03:53:44 pm
 Presumably, Steve Irwin would be a Grant Balfour fan, what with the Oz connection.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 13, 2008, 04:09:09 pm
I'm catching bits and pieces in the conf. room. The boss declared she's recording the game to watch later and wants no information whatsoever, including exhibits of emotion.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 13, 2008, 04:19:15 pm
I'm catching bits and pieces in the conf. room. The boss declared she's recording the game to watch later and wants no information whatsoever, including exhibits of emotion.

She's placed you in a class case of emotion?
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 13, 2008, 04:22:18 pm
She's placed you in a class case of emotion?

Nice.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: homer on October 13, 2008, 04:25:43 pm
Upton 3 run bomb, over the monster. 4-0 top of 3rd.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 13, 2008, 04:28:35 pm
Of course it happened when I stepped out for a second to fix someone's laptop.

But I just caught the Longoria long ball.  The Fenway crowd is getting tense...
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: homer on October 13, 2008, 04:30:41 pm
Longoria drives one over the monster. 5-0.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: matadorph on October 13, 2008, 04:32:25 pm
And he hit it right to a guy in a Rays jersey. At Fenway.

That has to be a sign.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 13, 2008, 04:36:04 pm
And he hit it right to a guy in a Rays jersey. At Fenway.

That has to be a sign.

...that Yankee fans are in attendance, taunting the Sox faithful.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 13, 2008, 05:44:14 pm
Of course it happened when I stepped out for a second to fix someone's laptop.

But I just caught the Longoria long ball.  The Fenway crowd is getting tense...

Fuck the Red Sox Nation.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: das on October 13, 2008, 07:11:15 pm
I've got Rays fever!   They are going to have a tough time against Jon Lester.  Anyone else watching or listening?
That bandwagon is rolling along pretty fast.  Take care jumping on else you might miss and get caught up in the wheels and undercarriage.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: TheWizard on October 13, 2008, 09:00:36 pm
Fuck the Red Sox Nation.
Fuck the Red Sox calling themselves "Red Sox Nation".
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 14, 2008, 10:06:23 am
Fuck the Red Sox calling themselves "Red Sox Nation".

With apologies to Paul Revere and the Raiders...

They took the whole Red Sox Nation
Filled their fans with consternation
Took 'em deep out to Landsdowne
Red Sox Fans now wear a frown

Upton and Longoria
Molested Lester that's for sure
And Wheeler came up oh so sweet
Three and a third spotless relief

Tampa Bay people!
Petersburg pride!
And if they win
Yank/Sox suicide?
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 15, 2008, 09:04:09 am
"My" Tampa Rays are all right (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnaPepTGcNU)
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 15, 2008, 09:42:52 am
It's pretty fucking exciting around here right now. I'm trying to temper everybody's enthusiasm. You know, BBGs and such.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 15, 2008, 09:56:15 am
It's pretty fucking exciting around here right now. I'm trying to temper everybody's enthusiasm. You know, BBGs and such.

you are wise beyond your years, m'boy.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: pravata on October 15, 2008, 11:33:19 am
The Red Sox season is essentially a failure. They're not going to the World Series ....and they've done nothing this year to improve their talent base for 2009 and beyond...what Henry—and arguably Espstein—failed to see was that the competitive landscape had shifted. ...Why are they still trying?  They're going to play game 5?  They've been hammered 31-13 in the last 3 games.  Who are they kidding?  Do they think they can compete?  Or is it just for the money? The Rays are young, talented and not going away.  Not this year not next year.  The Red Sox have no big Papi, no little Papi, no Papi at all.  They're all either old or injured.  They should play some of their young players next game, at least have a plan for next season.  Or are they just going to try to buy another team?  Or maybe I'm hallucinating a Joe Sheehan column.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 15, 2008, 12:01:00 pm
Hahaha.

I think a lot of Boston "journalists" wrote something very similar to what you just posted during the game last night.  I think they have enough sense to wait and see if the Sox are actually eliminated before they fire those mortars, though.

The Red Sox season is essentially a failure. They're not going to the World Series ....and they've done nothing this year to improve their talent base for 2009 and beyond...what Henry—and arguably Espstein—failed to see was that the competitive landscape had shifted. ...Why are they still trying?  They're going to play game 5?  They've been hammered 31-13 in the last 3 games.  Who are they kidding?  Do they think they can compete?  Or is it just for the money? The Rays are young, talented and not going away.  Not this year not next year.  The Red Sox have no big Papi, no little Papi, no Papi at all.  They're all either old or injured.  They should play some of their young players next game, at least have a plan for next season.  Or are they just going to try to buy another team?  Or maybe I'm hallucinating a Joe Sheehan column.

Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 15, 2008, 12:57:33 pm
Big Floppi tripled with no one on last night. The BoSox are playing an OF at 1B. They're old and not hungry. The young club will prevail.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 15, 2008, 01:07:38 pm
Before we annoint the Rays, let's remember that the Red Sox were down 3-1 to the Indians last year.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 15, 2008, 01:16:47 pm
Before we annoint the Rays, let's remember that the Red Sox were down 3-1 to the Indians last year.

...says Ty to everyone he sees today.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: DVauthrin on October 15, 2008, 01:58:46 pm
...says Ty to everyone he sees today.

right thing to do.    one difference from last year though is beckett is not healthy.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 15, 2008, 02:19:10 pm
right thing to do.    one difference from last year though is beckett is not healthy.
Nor are the Rays running CC Sabathia or the 07 version of Fausto Carmona out there. I wonder if the Sox would start Lester over Beckett if they make it to Game 6- thanks to the screwy TV schedule he'd be going on 4 days' rest.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: BUWebguy on October 15, 2008, 02:26:25 pm
Before we annoint the Rays, let's remember that the Red Sox were down 3-1 to the Indians last year.

They ran a graphic last night that 15 (I think) teams had been down 3-1 in an ALCS. Four of those had come back to win, and three of those four were the Red Sox.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 15, 2008, 02:45:09 pm
They ran a graphic last night that 15 (I think) teams had been down 3-1 in an ALCS. Four of those had come back to win, and three of those four were the Red Sox.

Yeah, the Red Sox are still a great team.  It's definitely not impossible for them to come back.  I heard on SportsCenter this morning the Rays are taking the tarps off the obstructed-view seats and selling them for the LCS games (assuming they come back to St. Pete).  They will be available during the World Series as well, if the Rays get that far.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: strosrays on October 15, 2008, 03:46:10 pm

I know it is subjective, but to me that team just doesn't seem as scary offensively without Man-Ram in the middle of the order.  I wonder how many defending world champions traded away their cleanup hitter the next season, in the middle of a pennant run.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 15, 2008, 03:55:17 pm
I know it is subjective, but to me that team just doesn't seem as scary offensively without Man-Ram in the middle of the order.  I wonder how many defending world champions traded away their cleanup hitter the next season, in the middle of a pennant run.

strosrays, slightly irrelevant question, but does the "rays" part of your name refer to Rays fandom?  Just curious.  I'll hang up and listen.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 15, 2008, 04:07:40 pm
Yeah, the Red Sox are still a great team.  It's definitely not impossible for them to come back.  I heard on SportsCenter this morning the Rays are taking the tarps off the obstructed-view seats and selling them for the LCS games (assuming they come back to St. Pete).  They will be available during the World Series as well, if the Rays get that far.

I just purchased 2 of those seats for Game 6. I'd rather there not be one.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: strosrays on October 16, 2008, 07:17:42 pm
strosrays, slightly irrelevant question, but does the "rays" part of your name refer to Rays fandom?  Just curious.  I'll hang up and listen.


Yes.  And it has been my handle here since 2001 or so, meaning at the least, I'm no bandwgoneer.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Lurch on October 16, 2008, 08:27:31 pm

Yes.  And it has been my handle here since 2001 or so, meaning at the least, I'm no bandwgoneer.

Early in the season I pointed out to a friend that grew up in TB how well the Rays played against the Astros and that they were for real and he (a Yankmes fan) insisted it was just a lucky streak and would soon fade.  I made sure to get it cemented then and there that he would not become a Rays fan when they made the playoffs and the Yankmes didnt.  I'm having a great time with it.  I know it's killing him not to be able to jump on.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: mihoba on October 16, 2008, 09:47:11 pm
Red Sox Nation/Fenway is mighty quiet right now, Rays 7-0 in the 7th. I can hear the champagne chilling in the visitors clubhouse.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 16, 2008, 09:56:04 pm
Tampa Bay is playing impressive baseball right now. They've got a very good defensive team.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: The Third Man on October 16, 2008, 10:14:45 pm
Red Sox Nation/Fenway is mighty quiet right now, Rays 7-0 in the 7th. I can hear the champagne chilling in the visitors clubhouse.

It just got a little louder....
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 16, 2008, 10:19:05 pm
Ortiz finally remembered what month it is. Too bad Papelbon gave up the two-run double in the top of the inning... what's the largest deficit any team has come back from to win a postseason game?
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: The Third Man on October 16, 2008, 10:34:13 pm
Ortiz finally remembered what month it is. Too bad Papelbon gave up the two-run double in the top of the inning... what's the largest deficit any team has come back from to win a postseason game?

Fucking Red Sox. They are like Dracula.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: mihoba on October 16, 2008, 10:50:57 pm
Fucking Red Sox. They are like Dracula.

Perfect one-hop shallow line drive to the rightfielder with Kotsay trying to score. A decent throw would have been close, but Gabe Gross threw a one hopper to the firstbaseman.

Horrible throw. Tie score. Fuck me running.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: The Third Man on October 16, 2008, 11:18:16 pm
If I were a Rays fan (and I am in this series) that Longoria play would haunt me. He did such a great job to grab the ball that it effected his throw.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: mihoba on October 16, 2008, 11:26:25 pm
If I were a Rays fan (and I am in this series) that Longoria play would haunt me. He did such a great job to grab the ball that it effected his throw.

Pena should have had it, however. He did an ole' job.

Gabe Gross in RF was really terrible the last few innings. It looked like he should have snagged Drew's winning liner from where I sit.

Maybe they just wanted to go back to Tampa.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: otterjb on October 16, 2008, 11:27:06 pm
God, I would love it if the Rays just slammed the fucking door on Boston in game 6, ala Roy in '05.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 16, 2008, 11:41:36 pm
what's the largest deficit any team has come back from to win a postseason game?

8 runs.  1929 World Series. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHA/PHA192910120.shtml)  Fuck the Cubs.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 16, 2008, 11:43:49 pm
Dan Wheeler has now played in 2 of the most disastrous Game 5 would be LCS clincher games of all-time.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 17, 2008, 01:08:40 am
I felt badly for Wheeler.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 17, 2008, 01:08:58 am
8 runs.  1929 World Series. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHA/PHA192910120.shtml)  Fuck the Cubs.
Thanks. TBS said the Red Sox just overcame the 2nd-biggest postseason deficit ever, but they didn't name the biggest unless I missed it. Looks like that game was even more impressive, scoring 10 runs in the 7th, including 3 on an inside-the-park HR. Wow.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 17, 2008, 08:29:57 am
Epic collapse. Interesting to see if they can set this aside and get the job done.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 17, 2008, 09:27:01 am
Perfect one-hop shallow line drive to the rightfielder with Kotsay trying to score. A decent throw would have been close, but Gabe Gross threw a one hopper to the firstbaseman.

Horrible throw. Tie score. Fuck me running.

I couldn't believe that "throw". What the hell did he do?

Was there only one out when Drew hit the game-winner? Gross seemed awfully shallow for two outs.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 17, 2008, 09:39:54 am
I couldn't believe that "throw". What the hell did he do?

Was there only one out when Drew hit the game-winner? Gross seemed awfully shallow for two outs.

At first, I thought the throw hit Crisp rounding first because the shot TBS had was Kotsay barreling towards home. When I saw the replay, it showed Gross buried the throw into the edge of the outfield grass. Bad, bad throw.

There were two outs.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 17, 2008, 09:46:25 am
Balfour and Wheeler got lit up last night.  I guess the Red Sox have seen them too many times.  I'm sure Wheels is telling his teammates all about games 5 and 6 of the 2005 NLCS.  Nothing about the Red Sox surprises me anymore.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 17, 2008, 09:51:22 am
Before we annoint the Rays, let's remember that the Red Sox were down 3-1 to the Indians last year.

Also, they were once, famously, down 3-0 to the Yankmees too.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Taras Bulba on October 17, 2008, 09:56:44 am
At first, I thought the throw hit Crisp rounding first because the shot TBS had was Kotsay barreling towards home. When I saw the replay, it showed Gross buried the throw into the edge of the outfield grass. Bad, bad throw.

There were two outs.

I thought Gross lost his footing when he made the throw.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: pravata on October 17, 2008, 10:00:04 am
If  John Henry actually watches these games he may finally see the Red Sox for what they actually are instead of what he’d like them to be.   They got lucky last night 7 runs down with 3 innings to elimination, somehow they found 8 runs.  Maybe they think, “Our fate rests in our hands.”  This is ridiculous.  To believe that requires a suspension of reality.  Maybe last night there wasn't any talk of packing up and going home, but the flaws in the Red Sox are obvious.  There’s a point where reality will be impossible to ignore. We’re not there yet. But we’re getting closer.  Why don't they just give up?  Or maybe this cheap tequila has me thinking like Ricky Justice.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Trey on October 17, 2008, 10:01:11 am
Also, they were once, famously, down 3-0 to the Yankmees too.

Really? I don't remember this happening.  I'm surprised ESPN and FOX doesn't remind us of that occasionally.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Noe on October 17, 2008, 10:08:04 am
Gross slipped.  A bad omen of things to come?  I dunno, maybe... then maybe not.  But Longoria's throw in the ninth was perhaps more telling to me.  Young kid, pressure is on... no worries, he hits a homerun, all things are great.  Then the pressure is really on in the late innings and Longoria showed, perhaps (it is debateable), what it means to be young and inexperienced.  He muffed a pretty easy throw after making a pretty difficult catch.  Sometimes a player hears his own voice in his head saying "Gotta grab and throw, gotta grab and throw... don't throw it away, don't throw it away" and all those things are simply not true.  He had time to plant, set and throw and get You-Kill-Us by two to three steps.

Ugh!

I felt bad for the kid, for all the baby Rays.  But ultimately what last night told me was that the old adage that you win in the playoffs with a great bullpen was indeed true.  Francona shot his wad using Paplebon in the seventh because the night before he realized his pen could not stop the young Rays and the bleeding they were inflicting on his team.  It was the add-on the night before that made the game out of reach.  Last night, it was a tale of two pens... one that worked and one that looked spent.  I fully expect this to be the tell-tale of who will win this series: What bullpen will be able to survive this playoff with the less runs allowed.

And then they'll get their arse kicked by the Phillies.  Strange though, I once thought the BoSox pen was much better than the Rays or even slightly better than the Phillies.  With Beckett showing signs of being Zambrano'ed out of the playoffs, you're going to need a pen.  Right now, unless the Rays take a breather and regroup that pen, then it's all about who outlast who in this playoff.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 17, 2008, 10:14:46 am
Fuck I'm so glad I didn't say anything when it was 7-0.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Noe on October 17, 2008, 10:21:27 am
Fuck I'm so glad I didn't say anything when it was 7-0.

It is so hard to sweep a team in their home field during the playoffs.  Your own home field, perhaps, but not going to happen often in the other's home field.  When the Rays were up 7-0, all I could think was not that they were better than the BoSox but that they were unaware how hard it was to do what they were doing.  Ignorance is bliss if you will.  Being young and inexperience makes you feel you are invincible and there is no reason why you can't do the impossible.

Then reality struck.

It's a good lesson for the young Rays (believe it or not).  I fear, however, that they may press to try and beat the BoSox handily at their own park and thus really swing at bad pitches from Beckett in the next game.  Right about now, the veterans on that team are putting arms around the young guys and trying like the Dickens to explain that they should not try to do anything extraordinary to try and get this out of their psyche.  In fact, they should dwell on the fact they went up to Boston and took two of three from the Red Sox. 

Hard to do with young kids, but as high as they can get when they go well, that is how low they can get when things get bad.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Taras Bulba on October 17, 2008, 10:29:49 am
Players think a lot differently than the media and fans--everybody thought Houston was finished after the Pujols homer in Houston in '05.  The Astros and Roy calmly went to St. Louis and closed out Busch. 

Go Rays.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: das on October 17, 2008, 10:59:50 am
Players think a lot differently than the media and fans--everybody thought Houston was finished after the Pujols homer in Houston in '05.  The Astros and Roy calmly went to St. Louis and closed out Busch. 

Go Rays.

The Rays are saying the right things, at least. 

http://tampabay.rays.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20081016&content_id=3625190&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=tb

"He stayed on it good, he showed discipline, man," said Howell of the 3-1 changeup Drew hit for the winner. "It was a pretty good piece of hitting. He drove it and it had backspin over [Gross'] head."

"Yeah, we outplayed them for six, but we play nine here," Howell said. "We've got to throw this one out of the window. They checked us, and they showed us why they're here. With their backs against the wall, they didn't quit."

"They're a great lineup over there," Wheeler said. "Just boil it down to we weren't able to execute and they were. It came a lot at once. That's the thing, they're very capable of doing that. You know, we come back on Saturday, if the same situation arises, I've got 100-percent confidence in all of us to go back out there and get the job done."
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Noe on October 17, 2008, 11:51:10 am
Players think a lot differently than the media and fans--everybody thought Houston was finished after the Pujols homer in Houston in '05.  The Astros and Roy calmly went to St. Louis and closed out Busch. 

Go Rays.

Ironically, Dan "Wrecking Ball" Wheeler was on the mound to throw the final pitch i St. Louis that sent the Houston Astros to their first World Series ever!
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Taras Bulba on October 17, 2008, 11:58:34 am
Ironically, Dan "Wrecking Ball" Wheeler was on the mound to throw the final pitch i St. Louis that sent the Houston Astros to their first World Series ever!

I'll always affectionately think of him as "Dot."
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Jacksonian on October 17, 2008, 11:59:20 am
Ironically, Dan "Wrecking Ball" Wheeler was on the mound to throw the final pitch i St. Louis that sent the Houston Astros to their first only World Series ever!

FIFY.  BBG appeasement is an eternal process.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Taras Bulba on October 17, 2008, 01:28:45 pm
Despite the excitement of the comeback last night, I find watching the Red Sox, and especially games at Fenway extremely tiresome.  Are all Boston pitchers instructed to take forever to throw a fucking pitch?  I would like to think that I like baseball a lot, but I don't have much fun watching these. 
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 17, 2008, 03:18:38 pm
Despite the excitement of the comeback last night, I find watching the Red Sox, and especially games at Fenway extremely tiresome.  Are all Boston pitchers instructed to take forever to throw a fucking pitch?  I would like to think that I like baseball a lot, but I don't have much fun watching these. 

I dunno.  I'm still in love with watching anything in HD, especially baseball, so I enjoy it.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 17, 2008, 03:31:14 pm
I dunno.  I'm still in love with watching anything in HD, especially baseball, so I enjoy it.

Except when they cut to the freakshow in the booth.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 18, 2008, 01:03:17 pm
Fuck I'm so glad I didn't say anything when it was 7-0.

Too bad mihoba could keep his pie hole shut.  I really can't stand that team from north of Connecticut.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: matadorph on October 18, 2008, 07:12:55 pm
Is Game 6 not on TV or what?

Why is Tyler Perry on TBS?
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: matadorph on October 18, 2008, 07:27:42 pm
TBS is still experiencing technical difficulties. BJ Upton just took Beckett deep and nobody saw it.

Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 18, 2008, 07:32:02 pm
TBS is still experiencing technical difficulties. BJ Upton just took Beckett deep and nobody saw it.



We just did. 
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: mihoba on October 18, 2008, 10:20:22 pm
Too bad mihoba could keep his pie hole shut.

mmmmm, pie.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 18, 2008, 10:22:55 pm
mmmmm, pie.

Make that humble pie for you.



ETA: Rays lose game 6.  Dadgumit mihoba.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 19, 2008, 09:20:45 am
Ugh I really didn't want this to go to a game 7.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 19, 2008, 10:42:49 pm
Heck of a performance tonight by the rook (Price) with bases loaded 2 outs in the T-8 and then through the 9th!
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: loganck on October 19, 2008, 10:44:48 pm
That was fun to watch.  Should be a good WS.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: DVauthrin on October 20, 2008, 12:29:30 am
mihoba got his reprieve, thankfully.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 20, 2008, 09:10:06 am
great WS: no Yankees, no Mets, no Cubs, no Red Sox

ESPN is in mourning
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: BudGirl on October 20, 2008, 09:19:10 am
I finally got good news.

I may watch it now.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 20, 2008, 09:33:09 am
I'm pumped for this World Series!  I love the Rays, but I feel like I have to root for the NL (unless it's the Cubs or Mets).  Phillies are a likeable team too, as far as Phillies teams go.  It would be great to see Lidge and Bruntlett get a ring...and not just a BS "NL Champion" ring.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 20, 2008, 09:45:51 am
If it were any team but the Rays, I'd be rooting for Philly.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: BudGirl on October 20, 2008, 09:58:40 am
This is the first time in a long time I won't be upset with who wins/or doesn't win.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 20, 2008, 10:01:01 am
This is the first time in a long time I won't be upset with who wins/or doesn't win.

same here
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 20, 2008, 10:24:22 am
If it were any team but the Rays, I'd be rooting for Philly.

I'm just going to watch and see where my allegiance falls.  Probably away from the first team/fans to indulge in some notable asshattery.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 20, 2008, 11:00:07 am
I'm just going to watch and see where my allegiance falls.  Probably away from the first team/fans to indulge in some notable asshattery.

Put Limey down as a Rays fan.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 20, 2008, 11:11:37 am
Put Limey down as a Rays fan.

Well, thanks to Billy Wagner and Corey Hart, RaysFan gets first crack at being a dick.  But I suspect that you're correct as I imagine that only one of the competing cities is having a run on D cells right now.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 20, 2008, 11:33:02 am
Well, thanks to Billy Wagner and Corey Hart, RaysFan gets first crack at being a dick.  But I suspect that you're correct as I imagine that only one of the competing cities is having a run on D cells right now.

Just wait until you read all the articles about how the people of Philadelphia "deserve" for their team to win, whereas Tampa Bay fans haven't "earned" it yet.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 20, 2008, 11:37:00 am
If you need a reason to hate the Rays, just remember the only Astros game that wasn't televised this year was at Tropicana Field.  Rays management scheduled it within FOX network's exclusive baseball time on Saturday afternoon so that they could have time for a Kool and the Gang concert afterwards!  Also, it was the only game this year in which the Astros wore the rainbow guts, and we didn't get a chance to see them!
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 20, 2008, 11:40:42 am
If you need a reason to hate the Rays, just remember the only Astros game that wasn't televised this year was at Tropicana Field.  Rays management scheduled it within FOX network's exclusive baseball time on Saturday afternoon so that they could have time for a Kool and the Gang concert afterwards!  Also, it was the only game this year in which the Astros wore the rainbow guts, and we didn't get a chance to see them!


"Cel-a-brate good times, Come On!"
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 20, 2008, 11:55:52 am
Also, it was the only game this year in which the Astros wore the rainbow guts, and we didn't get a chance to see them!

So..wait...you're saying that the rainbow guts not being on TV was a bad thing?
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 20, 2008, 12:09:00 pm
So..wait...you're saying that the rainbow guts not being on TV was a bad thing?

Only game the Astros lost, IIRC.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: BudGirl on October 20, 2008, 12:34:57 pm
Only game the Astros lost, IIRC.

No, the Astros lost more than that game.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 20, 2008, 12:47:07 pm
No, the Astros lost more than that game.

Maybe in your world...
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 20, 2008, 01:38:34 pm
So..wait...you're saying that the rainbow guts not being on TV was a bad thing?

Rainbow guts are the greatest uniform of all time!  Imagine how good Babe Ruth would look in a rainbow gut.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: das on October 20, 2008, 02:14:04 pm
Rainbow guts are the greatest uniform of all time!  Imagine how good Babe Ruth would look in a rainbow gut.
Not hard to imagine at all.  I saw Charlie Kerfeld play...
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 20, 2008, 02:53:11 pm
Rainbow guts are the greatest uniform of all time!  Imagine how good Babe Ruth would look in a rainbow gut.

The rainbow warmup jacket was the bomb!
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: otterjb on October 20, 2008, 03:04:42 pm
Charlie Kerfeld, hell yeah. I started watching baseball in '86 and Kerfeld was one of the first players I remember liking. At the time, I think I thought that he was just a normal professional mlb player. In the time since then, when at the park, I've always imagined Charlie up there, conducting the train after a homerun. Seems like a normal thought.

I agree - whoever wins the WS this year, it'll be a good thing. Each game should be fun.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Astroholic on October 20, 2008, 03:17:35 pm
Charlie Kerfeld, hell yeah. I started watching baseball in '86 and Kerfeld was one of the first players I remember liking. At the time, I think I thought that he was just a normal professional mlb player. In the time since then, when at the park, I've always imagined Charlie up there, conducting the train after a homerun. Seems like a normal thought.

I agree - whoever wins the WS this year, it'll be a good thing. Each game should be fun.

I always remember him eating a hot dog in the pen or him and Larry Andersen wearing the coneheads.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: strosrays on October 20, 2008, 03:25:07 pm
It was weird, during one of the ALCS games, TBS found Chuck Lamar (former Rays GM) in the stands and interviewed him.  He is now an advance scout for Philadelphia.  Sitting on his right was Kerfeld, on his left Gordon Lakey.  IIRC, all three are employees of the Phillies now, but the first thing that struck me was, two former Astros guys, and Lamar's a Houston native, went to St. Thomas, etc.

It was also weird for anyone who has followed the Rays for a long time to hear praise being heaped on Chuck Lamar (by Chip Caray, for drafting a bunch of the young guys emerging as Rays regulars now.)  During his tenure in St. Pete, he and former owner Vince Namioli were mostly vilified, as the root of most if not all of the Rays problems.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 20, 2008, 03:28:54 pm
It was weird, during one of the ALCS games, TBS found Chuck Lamar (former Rays GM) in the stands and interviewed him.  He is now an advance scout for Philadelphia.  Sitting on his right was Kerfeld, on his left Gordon Lakey.  IIRC, all three are employees of the Phillies now, but the first thing that struck me was, two former Astros guys, and a Houston native.

It was also weird for anyone who has followed the Rays for a long time to hear praise being heaped on Chuck Lamar (by Chip Caray, for drafting a bunch of the young guys emerging as Rays regulars now.)  During his tenure in St. Pete, he and former owner Vince Namioli were mostly vilified, as the root of most if not all of the Rays problems.

Gillick is a former Astro, as is Lakey, as you no doubt know. they and Wade and others were together with Tal Smith in the 70s as Tal worked his way through the Astros system to the top. they are all close friends and very loyal to one another. Gordon considers Gillick his brother and is very close to Tal also.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: TheWizard on October 20, 2008, 05:30:08 pm
This is the first time in a long time I won't be upset with who wins/or doesn't win.
That sums it up for me too.  I'm looking forward to just enjoying a good WS.  Both teams have some great pitching.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: legs_of_eggs on October 20, 2008, 05:42:21 pm
Thanks to Lidge the Phillies don't have homefield advantage.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 20, 2008, 08:25:26 pm
Thanks to Lidge the Phillies don't have homefield advantage.

Wrongo.  Billy Wagner blew the save and Corey Hart (picked over RBI machine El Kabong by ballot-stuffing BrewerFans) failed in numerous opportunities to bat in the winning run.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 20, 2008, 08:57:38 pm
Wrongo.  Billy Wagner blew the save and Corey Hart (picked over RBI machine El Kabong by ballot-stuffing BrewerFans) failed in numerous opportunities to bat in the winning run.

Yellow card for the quote.  A broken clock may be right twice a day, but loe is wrong every time.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: moriartp on October 20, 2008, 10:26:54 pm
Yellow card for the quote.


Suggested penalty: forced viewing of Palin's convention speech in its entirety.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: DVauthrin on October 20, 2008, 10:29:01 pm

Suggested penalty: forced viewing of Palin's convention speech in its entirety.

Not harsh enough.   How about no Youtube or IPhone usage for a designated amount of time?
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 21, 2008, 09:35:16 am
Not harsh enough.   How about no Youtube or IPhone usage for a designated amount of time?

You're a sadistic sonofabitch.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 21, 2008, 10:57:31 am
Not harsh enough.   How about no Youtube or IPhone usage for a designated amount of time?

Already lived through a YouTube ban.  You can have my iPhone when you can pry it from my hot, sweaty hand.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: sporadic on October 21, 2008, 11:01:54 am
Already lived through a YouTube ban.  You can have my iPhone when you can pry it from my hot, sweaty hand.

Wow...never saw a person who loved a phone so much they named their penis after it
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: DVauthrin on October 21, 2008, 02:05:39 pm
You're a sadistic sonofabitch.

Not sadistic, just think sometimes you have to hit someone where it hurts to get your point across.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: DVauthrin on October 21, 2008, 02:06:12 pm
Already lived through a YouTube ban.  You can have my iPhone when you can pry it from my hot, sweaty hand.

I don't think i'd want your IPhone at that point.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Froback on October 21, 2008, 03:33:17 pm
Already lived through a YouTube ban.  You can have my iPhone when you can pry it from my hot, sweaty hand.
You know, people I know have a running joke that only women and gay-men have iPhones.  They actually even did some personal research on this with people they have come in contact with that have them.  The percentages were pretty surprising from what they found...  I had no idea of this perception before they told me about it.

Your comment made me thing about that as I read it.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 21, 2008, 03:39:26 pm
You know, people I know have a running joke that only women and gay-men have iPhones.  They actually even did some personal research on this with people they have come in contact with that have them.  The percentages were pretty surprising from what they found...  I had no idea of this perception before they told me about it.

Your comment made me thing about that as I read it.

You thing about on your own time.  Don't come near me with that!
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 22, 2008, 11:34:21 am
I'll be attending my first ever World Series games tonight and tomorrow night. I'm pretty excited but I don't think it's even close to the intensity of seeing Houston in it. I'm actually getting work done right now. I couldn't even do that when the Astros we're prepping for game 1 in '05.

Go Rays!
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 22, 2008, 12:42:27 pm
I'll be attending my first ever World Series games tonight and tomorrow night. I'm pretty excited but I don't think it's even close to the intensity of seeing Houston in it. I'm actually getting work done right now. I couldn't even do that when the Astros we're prepping for game 1 in '05.

Go Rays!

Oh, it'll be plenty electric there. Give us a report of your impressions.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 22, 2008, 12:42:47 pm
I'll be attending my first ever World Series games tonight and tomorrow night. I'm pretty excited but I don't think it's even close to the intensity of seeing Houston in it. I'm actually getting work done right now. I couldn't even do that when the Astros we're prepping for game 1 in '05.

Go Rays!

i turned down tickets for the games in Philly for a number of reasons, one of which was that i have been to the WS with my team in it. that's the best.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 22, 2008, 01:00:32 pm
i turned down tickets for the games in Philly for a number of reasons, one of which was that i have been to the WS with my team in it. that's the best.

I'm a pretty big Rays fan. Not nearly on the level of the Astros but I've put a lot into them for the past 10 years. This should be a blast.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: strosrays on October 22, 2008, 03:31:22 pm
I'm a pretty big Rays fan. Not nearly on the level of the Astros but I've put a lot into them for the past 10 years. This should be a blast.


I actually posted in the Rays forum at the gone-but-not-forgotten SPiT boards before I did here, though I may have been lurking here longer, I cannot remember.  I do recall the old days, when we would get all excited about up-and-coming talent like Ryan Rupe and Brent Abernathy.  That franchise has come a long way since then.

I envy you being able to attend.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 22, 2008, 03:42:29 pm

I actually posted in the Rays forum at the gone-but-not-forgotten SPiT boards before I did here, though I may have been lurking here longer, I cannot remember.  I do recall the old days, when we would get all excited about up-and-coming talent like Ryan Rupe and Brent Abernathy.  That franchise has come a long way since then.

I envy you being able to attend.
Dewon Brazelton was another supposed-to-have-been-All-Star, right?
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: legs_of_eggs on October 22, 2008, 07:50:06 pm
Wrongo.  Billy Wagner blew the save and Corey Hart (picked over RBI machine El Kabong by ballot-stuffing BrewerFans) failed in numerous opportunities to bat in the winning run.

LP: B. Lidge
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=280715131
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 23, 2008, 09:37:48 am
BS: B. Wagner (and LoE)
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Clark in Denver on October 23, 2008, 10:58:15 am
I love the Onion. (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/tampa_bay_rays_fuck_you)
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: MRaup on October 23, 2008, 11:27:19 am
Serious LoE, go play in traffic. You're a cock-guzzling fuckwad.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 23, 2008, 01:42:33 pm
Serious LoE, go play in traffic. You're a cock-guzzling fuckwad.

Mark, please tell us how you really feel.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 23, 2008, 04:35:39 pm
Serious LoE, go play in traffic. You're a cock-guzzling fuckwad.

Best one I've heard since Friedman's "jizz-gurgling, come-drunk faggot." You have a nice way with a phrase, sir.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: legs_of_eggs on October 23, 2008, 10:44:19 pm
BS: B. Wagner (and LoE)

The game was tied when Lidge came in. He gave up the lead. All his fault.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: subnuclear on October 24, 2008, 06:15:43 am
The box score says Lidge gave up 1 run and the AL scored 4 runs; therefore its not all his fault.   Baseball is a team game last I checked.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 24, 2008, 08:52:08 am
Why did people start responding to this guy again?  It must really be the void.  I was berated for such an indiscretion during the season.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Jacksonian on October 24, 2008, 09:02:40 am
Why did people start responding to this guy again?  It must really be the void.  I was berated for such an indiscretion during the season.

Replying is borderline.  Quoting brings the beating.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 24, 2008, 09:17:16 am
The box score says Lidge gave up 1 run and the AL scored 4 runs; therefore its not all his fault.   Baseball is a team game last I checked.

You don't understand.  The bloke pitching the 15th inning of a 9 inning game is always to blame for the loss.
Title: Re: Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 24, 2008, 09:28:08 am
You don't understand.  The bloke pitching the 15th inning of a 9 inning game is always to blame for the loss.

Chris Burke single-handedly carried the Astros to the NLCS.