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General Discussion => Beer and Queso => Topic started by: Towlie on August 20, 2008, 03:47:51 am
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just watch the video:
http://foureyedmonsters.com/neutrality/
basically, if this actually happens. We won't have this website anymore.
Also, I know this sounds like hippie liberal bullshit to some of you but the video on this front page:
http://www.savetheinternet.com/
made me realize that the phone companies are up to something and that the FCC is doing their job.
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The Daily Show (http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=114648&title=Net-Neutrality-Act), as usual, provides a perfect digest of the subject, and throws in some masturbation jokes for good measure.
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just watch the video:
http://foureyedmonsters.com/neutrality/
basically, if this actually happens. We won't have this website anymore.
Also, I know this sounds like hippie liberal bullshit to some of you but the video on this front page:
http://www.savetheinternet.com/
made me realize that the phone companies are up to something and that the FCC is doing their job.
OMG! what will you do then?
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basically, if this actually happens. We won't have this website anymore.
Not even close to accurate. Moreover, the issue of net neutrality has been in news and legislation for years now. I'm glad you're on board with an open internet, but you can take it easy with the Chicken Little routine.
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Not even close to accurate. Moreover, the issue of net neutrality has been in news and legislation for years now. I'm glad you're on board with an open internet, but you can take it easy with the Chicken Little routine.
They'll get our website when they pry it from our cold, drunk hands.
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OMG! what will you do then?
work and go to school and live my life.
Also, corporations try to control everything...who says that they won't try to control this place because we are talking about something that could be detrimental to their own profits. I only saw this recently because my friend sent it to me but overall it was just my anger boiling over about how much I do dislike large corporations.
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work and go to school and live my life.
Also, corporations try to control everything...who says that they won't try to control this place because we are talking about something that could be detrimental to their own profits. I only saw this recently because my friend sent it to me but overall it was just my anger boiling over about how much I do dislike large corporations.
Careful...those large corporations will be funding your retirement someday.
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Careful...those large corporations will be funding your retirement someday.
lol, if i had my way that wouldn't be the case. (since I'm trying to be a author) However, i guess one of the most likely directions in the early part of my life would be a english teacher or.....dun dun dun writing documents for some large corporation. :P Don't remind of the dread thats to come.
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work and go to school and live my life.
Also, corporations try to control everything...who says that they won't try to control this place because we are talking about something that could be detrimental to their own profits. I only saw this recently because my friend sent it to me but overall it was just my anger boiling over about how much I do dislike large corporations.
what is a "large corporation" exactly?
a public school district is one. a university is one. a publishing company certainly is one.
you're hilarious. are you somewhere about 15-16?
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Her profile says 19. I just checked. I don't remember 19.
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what is a "large corporation" exactly?
a public school district is one. a university is one. a publishing company certainly is one.
you're hilarious. are you somewhere about 15-16?
Publishing companies vary in size and are far from the Haliburton, Lockheed Martin, General Electric, type of corporation.
A school district is controlled by the state and has to follow a great bunch of rules and can't just do whatever the hell they want without Big Brother standing over them.
Corporations, they have lots and lots of money and can influence our politicians with that money. Big Brother isn't such a Big Brother until the little really screws up.
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Publishing companies vary in size and are far from the Haliburton, Lockheed Martin, General Electric, type of corporation.
A school district is controlled by the state and has to follow a great bunch of rules and can't just do whatever the hell they want without Big Brother standing over them.
Corporations, they have lots and lots of money and can influence our politicians with that money. Big Brother isn't such a Big Brother until the little really screws up.
a school district in Texas is not controlled by the state.
Houston INDEPENDENT School District
14? you definitely are a kid. you're funny.
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a school district in Texas is not controlled by the state.
Houston INDEPENDENT School District
14? you definitely are a kid. you're funny.
Where do you think HISD gets its funding?
Well, maybe you dont know this. The reason HISD wants kids to go to school every single day (and takes away off days mostly) is because they get a special tax bonus from the state. Also...what the hell are you talking about? The school district is watched by the state.
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Where do you think HISD gets its funding?
Well, maybe you dont know this. The reason HISD wants kids to go to school every single day (and takes away off days mostly) is because they get a special tax bonus from the state. Also...what the hell are you talking about? The school district is watched by the state.
you're nuts. totally, completely, bithering nuts.
fyi--i represent ISDs every day in my law practice.
12?
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you're nuts. totally, completely, bithering nuts.
fyi--i represent ISDs every day in my law practice.
12?
ooooo you place credentials but don't answer my question or comment on the fact that HISD keeps roll and tries to lessen off days because they get extra state funding for attendance.
I have no problem with HISD, I just find it kinda odd that you don't think HISD has someone (ala the state) looking over what they are doing.
For instance, that school district that has allowed their teachers to carry guns. It could have been overturned by the state but Rick Perry agrees with the idea. Thats not Big Brother?
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ooooo you place credentials but don't answer my question or comment on the fact that HISD keeps roll and tries to lessen off days because they get extra state funding for attendance.
I have no problem with HISD, I just find it kinda odd that you don't think HISD has someone (ala the state) looking over what they are doing.
For instance, that school district that has allowed their teachers to carry guns. It could have been overturned by the state but Rick Perry agrees with the idea. Thats not Big Brother?
you are full of shit. totally. you really are an idiot. i did not know that until today.
i think recess is over. go on to class.
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you are full of shit. totally. you really are an idiot. i did not know that until today.
i think recess is over. go on to class.
...wow, and you call me the child. good luck.
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Awesome. I remember what it was like to be 19 and have all of the answers, too.
I'm sorry to hear about your dislike of large corporations (though it was a little hard to hear at all, what with the fucking air raid sirens). You'll no doubt be dismayed to learn that net neutrality is lobbied heavily by the Open Internet Coalition, meaning that the largest financial force pushing an agenda you agree with is largely comprised of - GASP! - corporations. (http://www.openinternetcoalition.com/index.cfm?objectid=0016502C-F1F6-6035-B1264DD29499E9D0) But fret not. I'm sure Google and Ticketmaster are the innocuous, quaint, under-capitalized and cuddly corporations, not the big, nasty ones that want to oppress you.
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Awesome. I remember what it was like to be 19 and have all of the answers, too.
I'm sorry to hear about your dislike of large corporations (though it was a little hard to hear at all, what with the fucking air raid sirens). You'll no doubt be dismayed to learn that net neutrality is lobbied heavily by the Open Internet Coalition, meaning that the largest financial force pushing an agenda you agree with is largely comprised of - GASP! - corporations. (http://www.openinternetcoalition.com/index.cfm?objectid=0016502C-F1F6-6035-B1264DD29499E9D0) But fret not. I'm sure Google and Ticketmaster are the innocuous, quaint, under-capitalized and cuddly corporations, not the big, nasty ones that want to oppress you.
I don't have all the answers, mainly a lot of questions. I'm new to the OIC so I'm actually happy that you are telling me more about this subject since you know much much more about it than myself.
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you are full of shit. totally. you really are an idiot. i did not know that until today.
i think recess is over. go on to class.
From the sounds of it Towlie is skipping class in order to hit the Hippie Lettuce and rant about "big brother" with the rest of the conspiracy theorists. The fact that she may be teaching one day scares me...more than a little.
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From the sounds of it Towlie is skipping class in order to hit the Hippie Lettuce and rant about "big brother" with the rest of the conspiracy theorists. The fact that she may be teaching one day scares me...more than a little.
she'll be out of her adolescence by then.
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Where do you think HISD gets its funding?
The majority of it? My fucking property taxes.
This would be more accurate if I didn't live in Spring Branch.
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From the sounds of it Towlie is skipping class in order to hit the Hippie Lettuce and rant about "big brother" with the rest of the conspiracy theorists. The fact that she may be teaching one day scares me...more than a little.
Oh calm down. If you can't rant against "the man" while you're in college you're not having any fun at all.
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lol, if i had my way that wouldn't be the case. (since I'm trying to be a author) However, i guess one of the most likely directions in the early part of my life would be a english teacher or.....dun dun dun writing documents for some large corporation. :P Don't remind of the dread thats to come.
If you plan on investing any money, then you'll be relying on large corporations. In what do you think your 401(k) or IRA invests? If you plan to fund your retirement by filling a 5-gallon water jug with pocket change, you won't be living well in your old age.
It's OK though, you're young and idealistic. You don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. You don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought or processed. You know, as a career, you don't want to do that.
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Oh calm down. If you can't rant against "the man" while you're in college you're not having any fun at all.
Drugs and sex offer a nice alternative.
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Drugs and sex offer a nice alternative.
They all go hand in hand.
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If you plan on investing any money, then you'll be relying on large corporations. In what do you think your 401(k) or IRA invests? If you plan to fund your retirement by filling a 5-gallon water jug with pocket change, you won't be living well in your old age.
It's OK though, you're young and idealistic. You don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. You don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought or processed. You know, as a career, you don't want to do that.
Nice Lloyd Dobbler reset.
I'm guessing she's also interested in kickboxing...it's the sport of the future.
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meh, im not a big fan of drugs and kickboxing is nothing compared to UFC. I know, I'm very idealistic mainly because I haven't been out into the world yet. I'll probably end up investing some money in a Google or Microsoft though i plan on saving a lot of what I earn for my kids and family whenever they need help. Though hey its fun to dream.
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meh, im not a big fan of drugs and kickboxing is nothing compared to UFC. I know, I'm very idealistic mainly because I haven't been out into the world yet. I'll probably end up investing some money in a Google or Microsoft though i plan on saving a lot of what I earn for my kids and family whenever they need help. Though hey its fun to dream.
I'm sorry, did you say English teacher? Not to pile on any more, because I appreciate that you would want to teach, but you do see the problem here, right?
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Where do you think HISD gets its funding?
Well, maybe you dont know this. The reason HISD wants kids to go to school every single day (and takes away off days mostly) is because they get a special tax bonus from the state. Also...what the hell are you talking about? The school district is watched by the state.
ISDs in Texas get the majority of their funding from property taxes collected locally. That's why you had 'rich' districts and 'poor' districts in the past - schools built around industry, schools with a lot of highly valued property in the district, raised a lot more property taxes than other school.
The rest of it comes mainly from the state, but that's only roughly 38-40% of it. This is where WADA comes into play, which is weighted average daily attendance. Schools get more money from the state based on attendance, but it's a weighted system, meaning students in certain groups are weighted higher than others.
The districts are 'watched' by TEA.
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This is the second time this season that kickboxing has been compared to MMA in a thread where someone didn't recognize a Say Anything reference. Honestly, what are the fucking odds?
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This is the second time this season that kickboxing has been compared to MMA in a thread where someone didn't recognize a Say Anything reference. Honestly, what are the fucking odds?
About the same as some monkeynuts coming in and being explained how ISDs work by a lawyer that actually WORKS with them and the monkeynuts insisting they're wrong with little to no base for it?
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About the same as some monkeynuts coming in and being explained how ISDs work by a lawyer that actually WORKS with them and the monkeynuts insisting they're wrong with little to no base for it?
Right. Above average, it turns out.
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Drugs and sex offer a nice alternative.
This right here is the key.
If you want to have fond memories later on of your undergraduate years, do everything you can now to ensure you remember as little as possible.
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This right here is the key.
If you want to have fond memories later on of your undergraduate years, do everything you can now to ensure you remember as little as possible.
So, if you can't remember your undergrad years at all, you should just assume they're fond memories?
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ISDs in Texas get the majority of their funding from property taxes collected locally. That's why you had 'rich' districts and 'poor' districts in the past - schools built around industry, schools with a lot of highly valued property in the district, raised a lot more property taxes than other school.
The rest of it comes mainly from the state, but that's only roughly 38-40% of it. This is where WADA comes into play, which is weighted average daily attendance. Schools get more money from the state based on attendance, but it's a weighted system, meaning students in certain groups are weighted higher than others.
The districts are 'watched' by TEA.
WADA? way TMI for this forum.
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WADA? way TMI for this forum.
WADA = fantacrap?
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From the sounds of it Towlie is skipping class in order to hit the Hippie Lettuce and rant about "big brother" with the rest of the conspiracy theorists. The fact that she may be teaching one day scares me...more than a little.
I didn't know many college students who didn't think smokin' dope and criticizing the government was the height of "intellecual achievement". Then we grew up.
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About the same as some monkeynuts coming in and being explained how ISDs work by a lawyer that actually WORKS with them and the monkeynuts insisting they're wrong with little to no base for it?
Jim never informed me where I was wrong. He just went on insulting me, like you and many other people are. That said, I wasn't wrong with what I was saying either. According to HISD, they get their funds from three main sources: local property taxes, state-provided revenue, and federal funds. If the state is going to give school districts money, don't you think they are going to watch over what that school district is doing with the money? Jim made it seem as if the school districts are out on their own with no one to watch over them. Though the school districts are considered Independent, they do depend on the state to help with money which also causes the state to keep an eye on the school districts because money has been invested.
(go here to read about funding: http://www.houstonisd.org/HISDConnectDS/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=a46708f860efc010VgnVCM10000052147fa6RCRD)
So, whats so controversial about this? Why is their so much "young kid know it all trying to tell good ol' me how things run" sentiment? These things i'm saying aren't that out there, its what actually happens.
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Jim never informed me where I was wrong. He just went on insulting me, like you and many other people are. That said, I wasn't wrong with what I was saying either. According to HISD, they get their funds from three main sources: local property taxes, state-provided revenue, and federal funds. If the state is going to give school districts money, don't you think they are going to watch over what that school district is doing with the money? Jim made it seem as if the school districts are out on their own with no one to watch over them. Though the school districts are considered Independent, they do depend on the state to help with money which also causes the state to keep an eye on the school districts because money has been invested.
(go here to read about funding: http://www.houstonisd.org/HISDConnectDS/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=a46708f860efc010VgnVCM10000052147fa6RCRD)
So, whats so controversial about this? Why is their so much "young kid know it all trying to tell good ol' me how things run" sentiment? These things i'm saying aren't that out there, its what actually happens.
bullshit. this is one of the steps of a troll. look up which one.
i have represented ISDs for 29 years. tell me some more about how they work.
no older than 16.
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I'm just going to drop it, its not going anywhere productive.
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I'm just going to drop it, its not going anywhere productive.
It wasn't going anywhere productive when you started. You're a punk 19 year old trying to tell people that already know the real answers what your opinion about the answers is. Pretty much standard operating procedure for your posts, from what I've seen.
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I like towlie.
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The majority of it? My fucking property taxes.
This would be more accurate if I didn't live in Spring Branch.
The other Spring Branch ain't no better in fact.
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I like towlie.
good. maybe she can give you some instructions on HR laws and procedures.
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good. maybe she can give you some instructions on HR laws and procedures.
She already knows more than I do. Of course, I've only been doing this for 15 years...
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ooooo you place credentials but don't answer my question or comment on the fact that HISD keeps roll and tries to lessen off days because they get extra state funding for attendance.
I have no problem with HISD, I just find it kinda odd that you don't think HISD has someone (ala the state) looking over what they are doing.
For instance, that school district that has allowed their teachers to carry guns. It could have been overturned by the state but Rick Perry agrees with the idea. Thats not Big Brother?
come to california. teachers are allowed to smoke marijuana IN the classroom WHILE teaching. they also give you a extra day off per week if you're a author.
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they also give you a extra day off per week if you're a author.
I see what you did there.
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come to california. teachers are allowed to smoke marijuana IN the classroom WHILE teaching. they also give you a extra day off per week if you're a author.
I dont do drugs, I've never been compelled to try any of it. Also, if you are a teacher, you get the whole summer off so that s plenty of time to work on something. Also, saying the thing about lessening off days comes from my student prospective since I only graduated a little more than a year ago and still have friends there.
Speaking of credentials, my grandfather was a former vice principle of Austin High School and my best friends father is the principle of HSPVA, the school I graduated from. I'm not just pulling things out of my ass.
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Speaking of credentials, my grandfather was a former vice principle of Austin High School and my best friends father is the principle of HSPVA, the school I graduated from. I'm not just pulling things out of my ass.
I taught at Austin High School, both my parents are teachers, my aunt and uncle are teachers and I know a whole bunch of teachers! All this and I still pull things out of my ass. Education and association with educated people does not equal an immunity from saying silly things.
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Well my father was a mechanic. His father was a mechanic. My mother's father was a mechanic. My three brothers are mechanics. Four uncles on my father's side are mechanics
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I taught at Austin High School, both my parents are teachers, my aunt and uncle are teachers and I know a whole bunch of teachers! All this and I still pull things out of my ass. Education and association with educated people does not equal an immunity from saying silly things.
I knew teachers all throughout my time in school. Like dozens of them. Am I immune? Please say yes.
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I taught at Austin High School, both my parents are teachers, my aunt and uncle are teachers and I know a whole bunch of teachers! All this and I still pull things out of my ass. Education and association with educated people does not equal an immunity from saying silly things.
Of course, since im related to a close relative who was directly involved with HISD. I must not have any idea how the school system works...my grandpa must have been completely ignorant of the process though! Wow, since he isnt a lawyer he must not know anything at all about the school district he worked with for 30+ years. Amazing...how dumbfounding.
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Well my father was a mechanic. His father was a mechanic. My mother's father was a mechanic. My three brothers are mechanics. Four uncles on my father's side are mechanics
It worked in the movie.
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Any of you guys tried staying at a Holiday Inn Express lately?
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Any of you guys tried staying at a Holiday Inn Express lately?
:P heh, thanks Duman that made me chuckle.
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Of course, since im related to a close relative who was directly involved with HISD. I must not have any idea how the school system works...my grandpa must have been completely ignorant of the process though! Wow, since he isnt a lawyer he must not know anything at all about the school district he worked with for 30+ years. Amazing...how dumbfounding.
I don't know what your Grandpa knows. I know that you came in with this "holy shit I just saw a video, you've got to see this, they're going to take out website" routine, which is bullshit, and demonstrably so.
Then you switched to "lol I don't like large corporations", which is bullshit by gross oversimplification.
Then - for reasons unclear to everyone here - you switched to "school districts are controlled by the state", which is also bullshit.
This has all been pointed out to you, and no matter how many times you try to change the argument, being marginally correct about the fact that ISDs receive some amount of funding from the state does not make any of your statements any less grounded in - you guessed it - bullshit. And as you may have recently read in The Boy Who Cried Wolf, people tend to only listen to someone shouting bullshit so many times before they decide to ignore that person altogether.
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I dont do drugs, I've never been compelled to try any of it. Also, if you are a teacher, you get the whole summer off so that s plenty of time to work on something. Also, saying the thing about lessening off days comes from my student prospective since I only graduated a little more than a year ago and still have friends there.
Speaking of credentials, my grandfather was a former vice principle of Austin High School and my best friends father is the principle of HSPVA, the school I graduated from. I'm not just pulling things out of my ass.
"vice principle of Austin High School"
he didn't learn you no English.
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"vice principle of Austin High School"
he didn't learn you no English.
He wasn't her pal, it seems.
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I don't know what your Grandpa knows. I know that you came in with this "holy shit I just saw a video, you've got to see this, they're going to take out website" routine, which is bullshit, and demonstrably so.
Then you switched to "lol I don't like large corporations", which is bullshit by gross oversimplification.
Then - for reasons unclear to everyone here - you switched to "school districts are controlled by the state", which is also bullshit.
This has all been pointed out to you, and no matter how many times you try to change the argument, being marginally correct about the fact that ISDs receive some amount of funding from the state does not make any of your statements any less grounded in - you guessed it - bullshit. And as you may have recently read in The Boy Who Cried Wolf, people tend to only listen to someone shouting bullshit so many times before they decide to ignore that person altogether.
I'd been waiting to nominate a quality rant.
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I don't know what your Grandpa knows. I know that you came in with this "holy shit I just saw a video, you've got to see this, they're going to take out website" routine, which is bullshit, and demonstrably so.
Then you switched to "lol I don't like large corporations", which is bullshit by gross oversimplification.
Then - for reasons unclear to everyone here - you switched to "school districts are controlled by the state", which is also bullshit.
This has all been pointed out to you, and no matter how many times you try to change the argument, being marginally correct about the fact that ISDs receive some amount of funding from the state does not make any of your statements any less grounded in - you guessed it - bullshit. And as you may have recently read in The Boy Who Cried Wolf, people tend to only listen to someone shouting bullshit so many times before they decide to ignore that person altogether.
I didn't swing the topics into that direction first of all. I was just called something insulting...without any other explanation than just "Hey, YOU STUPID!" type of deal about school funding.
Also, never did i say school districts are controlled by the state. Though you may think otherwise, I'm not that super liberal hippie kid thats trying to take to the man with every establishment that's around. My words were taken out of context because of that bias set against me because of my age...which is quite dumb, honestly.
What I was doing in my first post that had anything to do about whats being..."discussed" was pointing out the contrast between a publishing company, school district, and a mickey mouse Disney type of corporation that tries to control everything. I don't want to completely retype what I said but basically, publishing companies and school districts don't have the same kind of influence that a Mickey Mouse Corp. would have. Publishing companies aren't monopolized, of course theirs the large publishing company but there are many many other outlets (also, publishing companies normally publish a certain genre depending on the size). School Districts are watched over by the state because the state has the right to know what that district is doing with the money they give it. A Mickey Mouse Corp. type uses it's money to manipulate and bully people, small businesses and politicians into passing regulation that benefits the company.
So explain to me whats wrong with that type of thinking? Whats so controversial?
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I didn't swing the topics into that direction first of all. I was just called something insulting...without any other explanation than just "Hey, YOU STUPID!" type of deal about school funding.
Also, never did i say school districts are controlled by the state. Though you may think otherwise, I'm not that super liberal hippie kid thats trying to take to the man with every establishment that's around. My words were taken out of context because of that bias set against me because of my age...which is quite dumb, honestly.
What I was doing in my first post that had anything to do about whats being..."discussed" was pointing out the contrast between a publishing company, school district, and a mickey mouse Disney type of corporation that tries to control everything. I don't want to completely retype what I said but basically, publishing companies and school districts don't have the same kind of influence that a Mickey Mouse Corp. would have. Publishing companies aren't monopolized, of course theirs the large publishing company but there are many many other outlets (also, publishing companies normally publish a certain genre depending on the size). School Districts are watched over by the state because the state has the right to know what that district is doing with the money they give it. A Mickey Mouse Corp. type uses it's money to manipulate and bully people, small businesses and politicians into passing regulation that benefits the company.
So explain to me whats wrong with that type of thinking? Whats so controversial?
how deep has that hole you are digging gotten?
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how deep has that hole you are digging gotten?
Just waiting for you to piss in it Jim, you don't seem like you know how to do anything else.
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how deep has that hole you are digging gotten?
4 pages, and growing.
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I didn't swing the topics into that direction first of all. I was just called something insulting...without any other explanation than just "Hey, YOU STUPID!" type of deal about school funding.
Also, never did i say school districts are controlled by the state. Though you may think otherwise, I'm not that super liberal hippie kid thats trying to take to the man with every establishment that's around. My words were taken out of context because of that bias set against me because of my age...which is quite dumb, honestly.
What I was doing in my first post that had anything to do about whats being..."discussed" was pointing out the contrast between a publishing company, school district, and a mickey mouse Disney type of corporation that tries to control everything. I don't want to completely retype what I said but basically, publishing companies and school districts don't have the same kind of influence that a Mickey Mouse Corp. would have. Publishing companies aren't monopolized, of course theirs the large publishing company but there are many many other outlets (also, publishing companies normally publish a certain genre depending on the size). School Districts are watched over by the state because the state has the right to know what that district is doing with the money they give it. A Mickey Mouse Corp. type uses it's money to manipulate and bully people, small businesses and politicians into passing regulation that benefits the company.
So explain to me whats wrong with that type of thinking? Whats so controversial?
Don't worry, you don't need to re-type anything, I can read the posts.
A school district is controlled by the state
Also, corporations try to control everything
it was just my anger boiling over about how much I do dislike large corporations.
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Also, never did i say school districts are controlled by the state. Though you may think otherwise, I'm not that super liberal hippie kid thats trying to take to the man with every establishment that's around. My words were taken out of context because of that bias set against me because of my age...which is quite dumb, honestly.
Page 1, reply 10. You can go look easy enough so I won't link to it:
Your quote in its entirety responding to Jim telling you that public school districts are large corporations:
"A school district is controlled by the state and has to follow a great bunch of rules and can't just do whatever the hell they want without Big Brother standing over them."
Quitting is a good option.
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My dad was a proctologist.
Bend over.
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My dad was a proctologist.
Bend over.
nominated
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My dad was a proctologist.
Bend over.
So you NEVER wanted to fall for "come here and pull my finger".
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Don't worry, you don't need to re-type anything, I can read the posts.
Well, seeing that I did mess up by saying controlled then I was wrong with what I meant. Though, that still doesn't even answer the question I asked about whats wrong with thinking what I think with the three subjects: publishing company, school, and a mickey mouse corp?
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Well, seeing that I did mess up by saying controlled then I was wrong with what I meant. Though, that still doesn't even answer the question I asked about whats wrong with thinking what I think with the three subjects: publishing company, school, and a mickey mouse corp?
I'd like to know what the fuck a mickey mouse corp is?
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Well, seeing that I did mess up by saying controlled then I was wrong with what I meant. Though, that still doesn't even answer the question I asked about whats wrong with thinking what I think with the three subjects: publishing company, school, and a mickey mouse corp?
The problem with the Internet is that we can only judge what you wrote, not what you're thinking.
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The problem with the Internet is that we can only judge what you wrote, not what you're thinking.
I explained my thoughts on the three.
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The problem with the Internet is that we can only judge what you wrote, not what you're thinking.
That's a problem? In my interweb that's a blessing.
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I explained my thoughts on the three.
And you were wrong. But that didn't even slow you down a little bit.
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And you were wrong. But that didn't even slow you down a little bit.
How was I wrong?
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I explained my thoughts on the three.
No, I still have no idea why you think large corporations are bullies, or why publishers aren't in this category.
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And you were wrong. But that didn't even slow you down a little bit.
You have clearly never seen a movie by Michael Moore - get with it.
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I'd like to know what the fuck a mickey mouse corp is?
Apparently one that either accidentally or through pure evil became too successful and has the audacity to defend its interests and those of its shareholders. We should all aspire to lead companies to be just pretty good, and if we slip up and make too much money, we must find a way to tank it or sponsor bills that could hopefully lead to our demise. Fuck Donald.
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No, I still have no idea why you think large corporations are bullies, or why publishers aren't in this category.
Well, I guess the easiest ones to point fingers at would be the Oil companies or Walmart. Both of them hire large amounts of lobbist to get their way in washington. Also, with Oil companies making record revenue, it should make you wonder why gas was near 4 bucks a gallon more so than just "we don't have enough oil refineries". Speaking of which, even if they did make more oil refineries along the US coast, we wouldn't see the effects of that until 10 years later. Its a way for oil companies to get their way and get their money for all those luxury items the executives like.
Publishing companies are different because an author doesn't have to rely on one single company to get its work out there. There are still many different smaller publishing companies and even a self publishing option in Lulu.com.
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Well, I guess the easiest ones to point fingers at would be the Oil companies or Walmart. Both of them hire large amounts of lobbist to get their way in washington. Also, with Oil companies making record revenue, it should make you wonder why gas was near 4 bucks a gallon more so than just "we don't have enough oil refineries". Speaking of which, even if they did make more oil refineries along the US coast, we wouldn't see the effects of that until 10 years later. Its a way for oil companies to get their way and get their money for all those luxury items the executives like.
Wow. How much of this did you learn on a chron.com blog? You have no clue.
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Well, seeing that I did mess up by saying controlled then I was wrong with what I meant. Though, that still doesn't even answer the question I asked about whats wrong with thinking what I think with the three subjects: publishing company, school, and a mickey mouse corp?
I explained that yesterday, when I point out that it's idiotic to paint all large corporations with this evil brush. It's incredibly simplistic, and doesn't ever rise to the level of specious argument, because you don't have even have the common courtesy to make up shit that sounds like you might know what you're talking about. You just make juvenile blanket statements that are easily refuted, then either refuse to acknowledge that they're wrong, or conveniently forget that you ever typed them in the first place. Really, it's your bizarre argument, try to keep up.
So again, you said that you only brought the imperiled state of net neutrality to our attention because you're upset about large corporations. Jim asked you what you consider a large corporation, citing several reasonable examples that don't fit your simplistic mold. I've told you that corporations like AT&T lobby on one side of the net neutrality argument, and corporations like Google argue on the other. These positions don't make either corporation inherently good or bad.
Instead of trying to better illustrate whatever the hell it is you're trying to tell us, you decided instead to chase every shiny bauble that rolled by, all the while trying to tell people who understand their subject perfectly well that they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Saying that you didn't say something that you very obviously said, word for word, was a nice cherry on the sundae.
That's what's fucking wrong with your thinking. Now, by all means, change the topic again.
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Apparently one that either accidentally or through pure evil became too successful and has the audacity to defend its interests and those of its shareholders. We should all aspire to lead companies to be just pretty good, and if we slip up and make too much money, we must find a way to tank it or sponsor bills that could hopefully lead to our demise. Fuck Donald.
Well, a lot of those companies are screwing over the people who don't have the money to invest into those kinds of companies. Why? Because those companies have been slowly raising the standard of living without raising those peoples salaries to compensate. Why? Profits and investors.
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I explained that yesterday, when I point out that it's idiotic to paint all large corporations with this evil brush. It's incredibly simplistic, and doesn't ever rise to the level of specious argument, because you don't have even have the common courtesy to make up shit that sounds like you might know what you're talking about. You just make juvenile blanket statements that are easily refuted, then either refuse to acknowledge that they're wrong, or conveniently forget that you ever typed them in the first place. Really, it's your bizarre argument, try to keep up.
So again, you said that you only brought the imperiled state of net neutrality to our attention because you're upset about large corporations. Jim asked you what you consider a large corporation, citing several reasonable examples that don't fit your simplistic mold. I've told you that corporations like AT&T lobby on one side of the net neutrality argument, and corporations like Google argue on the other. These positions don't make either corporation inherently good or bad.
Instead of trying to better illustrate whatever the hell it is you're trying to tell us, you decided instead to chase every shiny bauble that rolled by, all the while trying to tell people who understand their subject perfectly well that they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Saying that you didn't say something that you very obviously said, word for word, was a nice cherry on the sundae.
That's what's fucking wrong with your thinking. Now, by all means, change the topic again.
I guess your mistake when it comes to me is believing that I think all corporations are bad and monopolizing. Also, I think I made the mistake in believing the most of you would know the difference between a Google and AT&T.
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Also, with Oil companies making record revenue, it should make you wonder why gas was near 4 bucks a gallon more so than just "we don't have enough oil refineries".
I know this one ... it's the speculators!
What do I win?
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I guess your mistake when it comes to me is believing that I think all corporations are bad and monopolizing.
Yeah. Only the mickey mouse ones are bad.
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Well, a lot of those companies are screwing over the people who don't have the money to invest into those kinds of companies. Why? Because those companies have been slowly raising the standard of living without raising those peoples salaries to compensate. Why? Profits and investors.
excuse me...what is the purpose of going into business?
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So many factual errors, so little time.
Well, I guess the easiest ones to point fingers at would be the Oil companies or Walmart. Both of them hire large amounts of lobbist to get their way in washington.
As doe teachers, publishers, lawyers, doctors, unions... what's your point? All groups who lobby are evil?
Also, with Oil companies making record revenue,
As measured by gross profits, not by profit margin.
it should make you wonder why gas was near 4 bucks a gallon more so than just "we don't have enough oil refineries".
There's no need to wonder about supply and demand.
Speaking of which, even if they did make more oil refineries along the US coast, we wouldn't see the effects of that until 10 years later.
Oil drilling platforms. Refineries are completely different than drilling.
Its a way for oil companies to get their way and get their money for all those luxury items the executives like.
You do realize who owns shares of companies like ExxonMobil, right?
Publishing companies are different because an author doesn't have to rely on one single company to get its work out there.
Not one company you have complained about thus far is a monopoly.
There are still many different smaller publishing companies and even a self publishing option in Lulu.com.
There are many smaller energy companies, and even a self-propulsion option in walking.
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Wow. How much of this did you learn on a chron.com blog? You have no clue.
You do watch the news? and read right? theres these things called economist...they kinda know what goes on with money.
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Also, I think I made the mistake in believing the most of you would know the difference between a Google and AT&T.
Oh, please, enlightened one... tell me the difference between a Google and AT&T.
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excuse me...what is the purpose of going into business?
Altruism, Jim. Especially keeping the internets free.
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excuse me...what is the purpose of going into business?
Evil. And your share of control of the Standard of Living dial. Which apparently someone moved too quickly and now the peasants know about it. Fucktards.
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You do watch the news? and read right? theres these things called economist...they kinda know what goes on with money.
Yes, but I am closer to understanding the meaning of life than you are to understanding basic economics.
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You do watch the news? and read right? theres these things called economist...they kinda know what goes on with money.
Quite frankly at this point I'm kind of wishing I couldn't read.
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By the way... ExxonMobil's 2007 pre-tax profit margin was 18.6%; your beloved Google's was 32.2%.
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You do watch the news? and read right? theres these things called economist...they kinda know what goes on with money.
Damnit! Someone's just putting us on. Where's the camera?
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By the way... ExxonMobil's 2007 pre-tax profit margin was 18.6%; your beloved Google's was 32.2%.
Profit margin is not super relevant even - look at ROIC.
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I guess your mistake when it comes to me is believing that I think all corporations are bad and monopolizing. Also, I think I made the mistake in believing the most of you would know the difference between a Google and AT&T.
Oh my, you are ever so enlightened. Please do explain it further to us simple plebeians. Because this is obviously the first any of us has ever heard of these "corporations" of which you speak.
The only mistake being made here is that we have incorrectly assumed that you would want to do something to improve upon that steaming pile of shit between your ears. I'm all done answering your dumbass questions now, but I do eagerly await your next smug, hopelessly idiotic post.
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Profit margin is not super relevant even - look at ROIC.
I'm trying to keep it simple.
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Well, a lot of those companies are screwing over the people who don't have the money to invest into those kinds of companies. Why? Because those companies have been slowly raising the standard of living without raising those peoples salaries to compensate. Why? Profits and investors.
OK, could we agree that someone on, say, a teacher's salary, or a goverment employee, couldn't afford to invest in something like ExxonMobil?
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So many factual errors, so little time.
As doe teachers, publishers, lawyers, doctors, unions... what's your point? All groups who lobby are evil?
As measured by gross profits, not by profit margin.
There's no need to wonder about supply and demand.
Oil drilling platforms. Refineries are completely different than drilling.
You do realize who owns shares of companies like ExxonMobil, right?
Not one company you have complained about thus far is a monopoly.
There are many smaller energy companies, and even a self-propulsion option in walking.
1.) Do you really believe that those guys will have the same influence on politicians? Money talks.
2.) Even with that, its still a surplus isn't it?
3.) Supply and Demand are also something that dictates the prices we pay...thats simple economics.
4.) My mistake.
5.) Yes, but you do realize who that screws over right?
6.) Can you name any independent oil companies off the top of your head?
7.) Look at Houston, its a city based on having a car to get to place to place. Its public transportation system isn't the greatest either (though its trying and can get there). Also, can you name a smaller energy company other than the ones that can afford advertising cost ala TXU energy and Green Mountain Energy? We have things called amigo energy but since they are so small time they end up jacking rates to compensate for whats going on with the price of gas.
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OK, could we agree that someone on, say, a teacher's salary, or a goverment employee, couldn't afford to invest in something like ExxonMobil?
Of course not. Who could possibly afford to save money in an investment vehicle with an $80 barrier to entry? This is why teacher's unions only invest in corporations like Goog...486 DOLLARS A FUCKING SHARE?? WHAT THE FUCK, MAN??
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1.) Do you really believe that those guys will have the same influence on politicians? Money talks.
2.) Even with that, its still a surplus isn't it?
3.) Supply and Demand are also something that dictates the prices we pay...thats simple economics.
4.) My mistake.
5.) Yes, but you do realize who that screws over right?
6.) Can you name any independent oil companies off the top of your head?
7.) Look at Houston, its a city based on having a car to get to place to place. Its public transportation system isn't the greatest either (though its trying and can get there). Also, can you name a smaller energy company other than the ones that can afford advertising cost ala TXU energy and Green Mountain Energy? We have things called amigo energy but since they are so small time they end up jacking rates to compensate for whats going on with the price of gas.
i did not think anyone could compete with legs of eggs, but you are giving it a helluva shot.
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OK, could we agree that someone on, say, a teacher's salary, or a goverment employee, couldn't afford to invest in something like ExxonMobil?
They could buy five shares or so of course. I doubt they would have the same influence of someone who can buy much more. However, not everyone in the middle class is a teacher or government employee (also, some government salaries really suck...I'm talking 25k a year). So, how does this help those people?
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i did not think anyone could compete with legs of eggs, but you are giving it a helluva shot.
Maybe at a later date...30-5 is an ass-whoopin in my book. Plus, Towlie is kind of fun, LOE is just an ass.
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1.) Do you really believe that those guys will have the same influence on politicians? Money talks.
Good lord - do you not recognize that groups other than corporations pay MASSIVE amounts to lobbyists?
2.) Even with that, its still a surplus isn't it?
No, it's not a surplus. It has nothing to do with surplus.
3.) Supply and Demand are also something that dictates the prices we pay...thats simple economics.
And yet you say the oil companies are manipulating this?
5.) Yes, but you do realize who that screws over right?
No, because I honestly don't think you know who some of the largest shareholders of these major corporations are. See my other question to you.
6.) Can you name any independent oil companies off the top of your head?
I know many independent oil companies; you probably know many independent publishers.
7.) Look at Houston, its a city based on having a car to get to place to place. Its public transportation system isn't the greatest either (though its trying and can get there).
I didn't realize you were forced to live in Houston. Damn the Motherland for restricting our movements this way!
Also, can you name a smaller energy company other than the ones that can afford advertising cost ala TXU energy and Green Mountain Energy? We have things called amigo energy but since they are so small time they end up jacking rates to compensate for whats going on with the price of gas.
Yes, I use Spark Energy which provides me with the lowest rates. The Internet is an amazing thing.
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Maybe at a later date...30-5 is an ass-whoopin in my book. Plus, Towlie is kind of fun, LOE is just an ass.
Towlie is not much fun but watching this "debate" is.
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They could buy five shares or so of course. I doubt they would have the same influence of someone who can buy much more. However, not everyone in the middle class is a teacher or government employee (also, some government salaries really suck...I'm talking 25k a year). So, how does this help those people?
OK, you're approaching this from clear ignorance, so let me help you out.
CalPERS - the California Public Employeee Retirement System, or in simpler terms, the pension fund for all California goverment employees - owns 23.9 million shares of ExxonMobil.
CalSTRS - the California State Teachers' Retirement System - owns 20.8 million shares of ExxonMobil.
So when ExxonMobil turns in record profits, current and past teachers and goverment workers benefit.
Oh - and in terms of influence - these funds represent some of the largest stakeholders in many, many of these "evil" corporations - corporations that cannot say "boo" without their shareholders' agreement.
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They could buy five shares or so of course. I doubt they would have the same influence of someone who can buy much more. However, not everyone in the middle class is a teacher or government employee (also, some government salaries really suck...I'm talking 25k a year). So, how does this help those people?
I swore I wouldn't do this, but look at me, backpedalling on my decision...
Yes, low-income shareholders hold less sway than large shareholders. Unions can be large shareholders. Even nice ones. ExxonMobil has a better-funded lobby than, say, you do. Corporations are not designed to help people. Not sure what the hell all of this is supposed to mean, but perhaps you would prefer that all companies be private, so they don't have to answer to shareholders at all? That's good?
Again, what does this have to do with corporations lobbying for and against net neutrality? They all do it to affect legislation and regulation. Is it good practice when you agree with them and bad practice when you don't? Who's the bully? The OIC is possibly better capitalized than the broadband providers, but it doesn't matter anyway, since they were the ones who got more out of the Net Neutrality Act in (edit - 2006). And what did Mickey Mouse ever do to you, anyway?
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Well, a lot of those companies are screwing over the people who don't have the money to invest into those kinds of companies. Why? Because those companies have been slowly raising the standard of living without raising those peoples salaries to compensate. Why? Profits and investors.
This one hurt my head.
The (Oil?) companies have been slowly raising the standard of living? How? I would call a dollar increase in a gallon of gas (which I'm guessing is what you're talking about) in the span of a year...well NOT slow. One could argue that the gasoline sitting at $3.70 per gallon could/should alter budgets. Or people could stop buying cigarettes and starbucks.
The (Oil?) companies have not been giving raises to people? Or only to the people who can't afford investments? Do the people who can't afford investments work for the (Oil?) companies? If not, how are the (Oil?) companies supposed to give pay increases to people employed by other companies?
Are corporations supposed to be in business for any reason other than to make the most money (ethically) that they can for their shareholders?
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- Collect underpants
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- Profit
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Good lord - do you not recognize that groups other than corporations pay MASSIVE amounts to lobbyists?
No, it's not a surplus. It has nothing to do with surplus.
And yet you say the oil companies are manipulating this?
No, because I honestly don't think you know who some of the largest shareholders of these major corporations are. See my other question to you.
I know many independent oil companies; you probably know many independent publishers.
I didn't realize you were forced to live in Houston. Damn the Motherland for restricting our movements this way!
Yes, I use Spark Energy which provides me with the lowest rates. The Internet is an amazing thing.
1.) Thats kinda obvious. However, in recent years, who has been the worst in manipulation?
2.) Ok.
3.) Ok, oil is made from the fossils of things that died millions of year ago. Each year something dies, and each year a dead something had the chance to be turned into that black gold called oil. Its been happening for years on end...but apparently we are running out of oil. If you notice, it seems like every now and then they say "hey we found more oil". The earth creates it! there's going to be oil until the earth dies and the sun explodes. OPEC has to keep supply low in order to be able to make as much money they are making. I guess the bad thing for us Americans is that we have to have that determined by an organization that isn't our own.
5.) Not everyone has the chance to take in their own shares independently without the help of a company putting it into their retirement plan. If those people are fortunate enough to work for a place that does put money into an investment for their retirement then thats great for them. However, those same people can't take out that money to help them in a emergency type situation without felling the repercussion on their taxes. Though there's millions of people in this country who can't do that and who are suffering because no matter how hard they work, they can't constantly get food on the table for their families.
6.) There's nothing wrong with Houston and I take great pride in being from here. I also want to see things become much easier for the far less affluent side of the spectrum.
7.) Awesome, I should check that place out.
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This one hurt my head.
Just this one?
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1.) Thats kinda obvious. However, in recent years, who has been the worst in manipulation?
2.) Ok.
3.) Ok, oil is made from the fossils of things that died millions of year ago. Each year something dies, and each year a dead something had the chance to be turned into that black gold called oil. Its been happening for years on end...but apparently we are running out of oil. If you notice, it seems like every now and then they say "hey we found more oil". The earth creates it! there's going to be oil until the earth dies and the sun explodes. OPEC has to keep supply low in order to be able to make as much money they are making. I guess the bad thing for us Americans is that we have to have that determined by an organization that isn't our own.
5.) Not everyone has the chance to take in their own shares independently without the help of a company putting it into their retirement plan. If those people are fortunate enough to work for a place that does put money into an investment for their retirement then thats great for them. However, those same people can't take out that money to help them in a emergency type situation without felling the repercussion on their taxes. Though there's millions of people in this country who can't do that and who are suffering because no matter how hard they work, they can't constantly get food on the table for their families.
6.) There's nothing wrong with Houston and I take great pride in being from here. I also want to see things become much easier for the far less affluent side of the spectrum.
7.) Awesome, I should check that place out.
a) There's no 4.
b) Yes everyone does have the chance to invest their funds independently. Outside of being at least 18 years of age, there are no restrictions other than an individuals desire to invest. If the desire is strong enough, like people trying to buy cigarettes with a Lone Star card, they'll find a way.
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3.) Ok, oil is made from the fossils of things that died millions of year ago. Each year something dies, and each year a dead something had the chance to be turned into that black gold called oil. Its been happening for years on end...but apparently we are running out of oil. If you notice, it seems like every now and then they say "hey we found more oil". The earth creates it!
Your vote counts as much as mine. That's fucked up.
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3.) Ok, oil is made from the fossils of things that died millions of year ago. Each year something dies, and each year a dead something had the chance to be turned into that black gold called oil. Its been happening for years on end...but apparently we are running out of oil. If you notice, it seems like every now and then they say "hey we found more oil". The earth creates it! there's going to be oil until the earth dies and the sun explodes. OPEC has to keep supply low in order to be able to make as much money they are making. I guess the bad thing for us Americans is that we have to have that determined by an organization that isn't our own.
Oh. OK. I kind of thought you were dispensing logic from an ignorant but stubborn position. I didn't understand that you're just crazy. My bad.
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Oh. OK. I kind of thought you were dispensing logic from an ignorant but stubborn position. I didn't understand that you're just crazy. My bad.
Wait. That wasn't sarcastic? This whole thing isn't some weird satire?
Now I'm lost.
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Just this one?
I actually see value in this discussion.
Entertainment value, sure, but value just the same.
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like people trying to buy cigarettes with a Lone Star card
You can do that? Score! Street corner entrepreneurship, here I come...
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Oh. OK. I kind of thought you were dispensing logic from an ignorant but stubborn position. I didn't understand that you're just crazy. My bad.
You need to hurry up and die, and start turning into oil.
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Oh. OK. I kind of thought you were dispensing logic from an ignorant but stubborn position. I didn't understand that you're just crazy. My bad.
I wasn't even going to bring up the problems with turning today's parakeets into tomorrow's petroleum.
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You need to hurry up and die, and start turning into oil.
Fonzie got an early start.
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3.) Ok, oil is made from the fossils of things that died millions of year ago. Each year something dies, and each year a dead something had the chance to be turned into that black gold called oil. Its been happening for years on end...but apparently we are running out of oil. If you notice, it seems like every now and then they say "hey we found more oil". The earth creates it! there's going to be oil until the earth dies and the sun explodes. OPEC has to keep supply low in order to be able to make as much money they are making. I guess the bad thing for us Americans is that we have to have that determined by an organization that isn't our own.
Oh, holy shit and pass the Tylenol. If you're dumb enough to believe that we're using oil at the same rate that we did 1,000, 100, or even 10 years ago, you're hopelessly stupid. And I don't mean "too stupid to debate on the Internet". I mean "too stupid to properly feed and clothe yourself."
And by the way... ExxonMobil does not equal OPEC. In fact, no corporation is a member of OPEC. Y'know, because it's the Organization of Petroleum Exporting COUNTRIES.
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Oh. OK. I kind of thought you were dispensing logic from an ignorant but stubborn position. I didn't understand that you're just crazy. My bad.
I figure you haven't taken biology or geology?
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You need to hurry up and die, and start turning into oil.
The earth creates it! From me! Eventually!
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Your vote counts as much as mine. That's fucked up.
I'm trying to decide whether I laughed harder at this, or at "486 FUCKING DOLLARS A SHARE?!?!"
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Oh, holy shit and pass the Tylenol. If you're dumb enough to believe that we're using oil at the same rate that we did 1,000, 100, or even 10 years ago, you're hopelessly stupid. And I don't mean "too stupid to debate on the Internet". I mean "too stupid to properly feed and clothe yourself."
And by the way... ExxonMobil does not equal OPEC. In fact, no corporation is a member of OPEC. Y'know, because it's the Organization of Petroleum Exporting COUNTRIES.
Well why do you think people are trying to push alternatives fuels? To slow the rate at which we use the Oil.
I didnt say ExxonMobil is in OPEC, I'm saying OPEC is a reason why things are the way things are.
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I figure you haven't taken biology or geology?
No, but I've recently read that I'm part of the demand AND the supply side of the problem, so there's that.
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I figure you haven't taken biology or geology?
Query...How many MILLIONS of years ago did the dinosaurs roam the earth?
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Holy hell, when did this perfectly good beer forum turn into the Noam Chomsky Hour?
Towelie, care to posit what the largest expenses that any huge company (big bad evil Oil Companies included) has? Let's play the Feud!
1) Payroll
2) Benefits
3) Pensions
Who makes money when Exxon has a huge year? Investors, sure. And the thousands upon thousands of normal, Chevy driving Joes who work for Exxon, who are paying mortgages on modest houses and saving to send their kids to college.
Look, I'm an aspiring writer, too. But if you're going to make it very far in fiction or non-fiction, you've got to know when your plot or your facts don't add up.
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Maybe at a later date...30-5 is an ass-whoopin in my book. Plus, Towlie is kind of fun, LOE is just an ass.
Towlie is fine. She's just young, which means she simultaneously knows everything and nothing. I was that way until I realized I didn't know shit about 99% of the universe. The knowlege of ignorance is the beginning of wisdom.
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Query...How many MILLIONS of years ago did the dinosaurs roam the earth?
dinosaurs did not exist. my CFer told me so.
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Well why do you think people are trying to push alternatives fuels? To slow the rate at which we use the Oil, because oil is a finite resource
I didnt say ExxonMobil is in OPEC, I'm saying OPEC is a reason why things are the way things are.
FIFY
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Query...How many MILLIONS of years ago did the dinosaurs roam the earth?
Zero, motherfucker. Weren't no fuckin' dinosaurs in the Bible.
Rgs,
C4
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They could buy five shares or so of course. I doubt they would have the same influence of someone who can buy much more. However, not everyone in the middle class is a teacher or government employee (also, some government salaries really suck...I'm talking 25k a year). So, how does this help those people?
Government employees in many cases are attracted to the complete benefit package and job security and not the base salary.
Also, the government retirement savings plan for civilians, the TSP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrift_Savings_Plan), invests in a variety of sources, including for example the International Stock Index, to the tune of close to $250 billion in assets. This system is used by members of congress, the house, etc. and yes even little ol' me.
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Query...How many MILLIONS of years ago did the dinosaurs roam the earth?
Hmm, nothing after dinosaurs live millions of years ago? or wait, are they still alive?
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dinosaurs did not exist. my CFer told me so.
So what, then..oil is made from the Jews?
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No, but I've recently read that I'm part of the demand AND the supply side of the problem, so there's that.
Sour crude is people!! It's people!!!
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Hmm, nothing after dinosaurs live millions of years ago? or wait, are they still alive?
if you received a diploma, turn it back in.
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Hmm, nothing after dinosaurs live millions of years ago? or wait, are they still alive?
Jurassic Park wasn't a documentary.
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Well why do you think people are trying to push alternatives fuels? To slow the rate at which we use the Oil.
Well, this is a waste of money and efforts, because I recently learned...
there's going to be oil until the earth dies and the sun explodes
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I didnt say ExxonMobil is in OPEC, I'm saying OPEC is a reason why things are the way things are.
OPEC is trying to abolish net neutrality? Seriously, though, I need clarification - do you actually believe that there's an endless supply of oil, and that OPEC nations are conspiring to make us believe that it's going to run out?
If someone could invent a car that runs on funny, this thread alone would reduce our foreign oil dependence by 90%.
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I figure you haven't taken biology or geology?
You obviously haven't either.
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If someone could invent a car that runs on funny, this thread alone would reduce our foreign oil dependence by 90%.
You forgot the Dane Cook factor. Cut it to 25%.
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If someone could invent a car that runs on funny retarded, this thread alone would reduce our foreign oil dependence by 90% 1000%.
Fixed.
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Holy hell, when did this perfectly good beer forum turn into the Noam Chomsky Hour?
Towelie, care to posit what the largest expenses that any huge company (big bad evil Oil Companies included) has? Let's play the Feud!
1) Payroll
2) Benefits
3) Pensions
Who makes money when Exxon has a huge year? Investors, sure. And the thousands upon thousands of normal, Chevy driving Joes who work for Exxon, who are paying mortgages on modest houses and saving to send their kids to college.
Look, I'm an aspiring writer, too. But if you're going to make it very far in fiction or non-fiction, you've got to know when your plot or your facts don't add up.
Theres another side to the story outside of the oil companies and its the people who are being fucked over by the prices they set.
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You obviously haven't either.
She did. At the High School for the Visual and Performing Arts.
Didn't you ever watch Fame? All they ever did on that show is take geology classes.
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Theres another side to the story outside of the oil companies and its the people who are being fucked over by the prices they set.
Oil companies don't set prices. In fact, oil prices are not set at all, they fluctuate daily. That's what all the caterwauling is about.
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Theres another side to the story outside of the oil companies and its the people who are being fucked over by the prices they set.
Oil companies set their own prices now?
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WHERE IS LIMEY?
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Oil companies don't set prices. In fact, oil prices are not set at all, they fluctuate daily. That's what all the caterwauling is about.
Psst. I think she thinks gas=oil and that the Oil companies own all the gas stations.
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She did. At the High School for the Visual and Performing Arts.
Didn't you ever watch Fame? All they ever did on that show is take geology classes.
I thought HSVPA is where you learned to weld. And dance. Dancing and welding.
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I thought HSVPA is where you learned to weld. And dance. Dancing and welding.
You're a maniac.
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I thought HSVPA is where you learned to weld. And dance. Dancing and welding.
That was Flashdance...and Jennifer Beals > Irene Cara.
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Oil companies don't set prices. In fact, oil prices are not set at all, they fluctuate daily. That's what all the caterwauling is about.
they (edit: to more specific OPEC, wall street, oil companies, and those equations of numbers and decimals) set the fluctuating prices everyday and when the wall street bell hammer slams down, that price is it until the process begins all over again. Its as if you guys don't believe that there's anything wrong with the system. I figure many of you live pretty well by lots of the responses here.
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Theres another side to the story outside of the oil companies and its the people who are being fucked over by the prices they set.
Where do you go to college?
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Psst. I think she thinks gas=oil and that the Oil companies own all the gas stations.
This is actually pretty funny. I really didn't have the heart to get into much of an argument with her, as her argument has a bit of a Special Olympics quality to it. However, when she started in with the geology lessons...
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they set the fluctuating prices everyday and when the wall street bell hammer slams down, that price is it until the process begins all over again. Its as if you guys don't believe that there's anything wrong with the system. I figure many of you live pretty well by lots of the responses here.
Oil companies don't set prices. Oil is sold at auction.
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they (edit: to more specific OPEC, wall street, oil companies, and those equations of numbers and decimals) set the fluctuating prices everyday and when the wall street bell hammer slams down, that price is it until the process begins all over again. Its as if you guys don't believe that there's anything wrong with the system. I figure many of you live pretty well by lots of the responses here.
Real simply...the oil prices are set by the market, not by the oil producing companies.
Now see, if there were an actual monopoly...
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Oil companies don't set prices. Oil is sold at auction.
You think the people who produce the oil for the public dont have any say in how much they want it to sell for?
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You think the people who produce the oil for the public dont have any say in how much they want it to sell for?
I'm gonna guess he knows it.
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You think the people who produce the oil for the public dont have any say in how much they want it to sell for?
Sure they have a say in how much they want to sell it for. But (SURPRISE!), they have no say in how much consumers want to buy it for. Money talks.
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You think the people who produce the oil for the public dont have any say in how much they want it to sell for?
None whatsoever. If they did, they sure as shit wouldn't have been selling it for $8/bbl for most of the 1990's.
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Theres another side to the story outside of the oil companies and its the people who are being fucked over by the prices they set.
If the oil companies set prices, and they're making "record profits" at this price, then why don't they move the price higher and make even MORE money?
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That was Flashdance...and Jennifer Beals > Irene Cara.
Because she is a switch-hitter (http://members.fortunecity.com/asakarlin/lword.html)?
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If the oil companies set prices, and they're making "record profits" at this price, then why don't they move the price higher and make even MORE money?
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH. They're LISTENING..........
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Because she is a switch-hitter (http://members.fortunecity.com/asakarlin/lword.html)?
That too.
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You think the people who produce the oil for the public dont have any say in how much they want it to sell for?
I do tax returns for a living. People are required to file tax returns, much like you believe they are "required" to drive. Why don't I charge $5,000 per tax return?
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If the oil companies set prices, and they're making "record profits" at this price, then why don't they move the price higher and make even MORE money?
Because people are complaining about it and doing that would make people more and more suspicious. But of course, we know this system is perfect.
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Because people are complaining about it and doing that would make people more and more suspicious. But of course, we know this system is perfect.
Seriously, what college do you go to?
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Because people are complaining about it and doing that would make people more and more suspicious. But of course, we know this system is perfect.
OK, the black helicopter theory. So, as HH pointed out, oil was $8/barrel in the 90s, and gas was less then $1/gallon. Were the big, bad oil companies run by very stupid people in the 90s?
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OK, the black helicopter theory. So, as HH pointed out, oil was $8/barrel in the 90s, and gas was less then $1/gallon. Were the big, bad oil companies run by very stupid people in the 90s?
The price-labeling guns used at the oil factory must have been stuck on single digits.
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Because people are complaining about it and doing that would make people more and more suspicious. But of course, we know this system is perfect.
Now you're just being childish.
Oil is auctioned off at the price the market will bear. The auction isn't ebay though. You can't set a reserve price and keep your crude if you don't get it.
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they (edit: to more specific OPEC, wall street, oil companies, and those equations of numbers and decimals) set the fluctuating prices everyday and when the wall street bell hammer slams down, that price is it until the process begins all over again. Its as if you guys don't believe that there's anything wrong with the system. I figure many of you live pretty well by lots of the responses here.
This may collectively be the most incorrect batch of statements you've made so far, which is really saying something. Except for the part about all of us being rich, that's quite true.
Do yourself a favor and search "speculator" on this site to see how well everyone likes and agrees upon the "system".
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George Washington was in a cult, and the cult was into aliens, man.
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I do tax returns for a living. People are required to file tax returns, much like you believe they are "required" to drive. Why don't I charge $5,000 per tax return?
That would be stupid business and you have to go with market value. So if business A sets their prices far less than yours, more people would go to business A.
Also if companies aren't saying they would like the barrel price to cost around this much, Wouldnt they be able to manipulate price of oil by changing supply?
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That would be stupid business and you have to go with market value. So if business A sets their prices far less than yours, more people would go to business A.
Also if companies aren't saying they would like the barrel price to cost around this much, Wouldnt they be able to manipulate price of oil by changing supply?
How many distinct producers of oil do you think there are in the world?
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That would be stupid business and you have to go with market value. So if business A sets their prices far less than yours, more people would go to business A.
Also if companies aren't saying they would like the barrel price to cost around this much, Wouldnt they be able to manipulate price of oil by changing supply?
You're getting close. Go back and read/comprehend what you just said, 3 or 4 times. A light is about to come on. I can feel it.
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Also if companies aren't saying they would like the barrel price to cost around this much, Wouldnt they be able to manipulate price of oil by changing supply?
No, I've read that there's infinite supply. If you subtract a billion barrels from infinity, well... you get the idea. I think we're just paying for labor costs, plus whatever they make the barrels out of. I assume they control prices by switching between steel and platinum.
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That would be stupid business and you have to go with market value. So if business A sets their prices far less than yours, more people would go to business A.
So it is your beleif they market competition and supply and demand affect every industry OTHER than oil?
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No, I've read that there's infinite supply. If you subtract a billion barrels from infinity, well... you get the idea. I think we're just paying for labor costs, plus whatever they make the barrels out of. I assume they control prices by switching between steel and platinum.
and mahogany
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Also if companies aren't saying they would like the barrel price to cost around this much, Wouldnt they be able to manipulate price of oil by changing supply?
Well, they could cut supply which would likely drive up the price. If there were only three bbls of oil in the world, it would likely be very expensive. The problem with that though, is that if they don't actually produce oil, they don't make any money, irrespective of what the price/bbl is. Trust me, oil companies are producing every drop they can. Wells that produce 1-5 bbs/day with 90% water are operating, when 10 years ago, a well that produced less than 25 bbls/day was shut in. And you still haven't answered the question of why, if oil companies can charge whatever they like for oil, did they not charge more during the times when oil prices were obscenely low?
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No, I've read that there's infinite supply. If you subtract a billion barrels from infinity, well... you get the idea. I think we're just paying for labor costs, plus whatever they make the barrels out of. I assume they control prices by switching between steel and platinum.
My grandfather used to make BBQ pits out of old platinum oil barrels.
Food tasted funny though.
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and mahogany
My apartment smells of rich leather and mahogany. I can even afford a share of Google.
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No, I've read that there's infinite supply. If you subtract a billion barrels from infinity, well... you get the idea. I think we're just paying for labor costs, plus whatever they make the barrels out of. I assume they control prices by switching between steel and platinum.
They could change the supply by having more people killed who could then be buried and start turning into oil. How could they do this and not arouse our suspicions? Maybe the big oil companies could get behind some of our wars. . . No, wait. . .
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Maybe the big oil companies could get behind some of our wars. . . No, wait. . .
See. this is like fishing with dynamite, right here.
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No, I've read that there's infinite supply. If you subtract a billion barrels from infinity, well... you get the idea. I think we're just paying for labor costs, plus whatever they make the barrels out of. I assume they control prices by switching between steel and platinum.
This is funny on multiple levels, especially the one where it's amazing how many people think oil is actually stored in wooden barrels in a warehouse somewhere.
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My apartment smells of rich leather and mahogany. I can even afford a share of Google.
I was going to buy a share of google, but I decided to have appetizers at French Laundry instead.
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They could change the supply by having more people killed who could then be buried and start turning into oil. How could they do this and not arouse our suspicions? Maybe the big oil companies could get behind some of our wars. . . No, wait. . .
You sir, are bad human being.
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So it is your beleif they market competition and supply and demand affect every industry OTHER than oil?
Yes, thats why cereal cost a whole lot more than it use to.
and Inflation doesnt help either.
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Yes, thats why cereal cost a whole lot more than it use to.
and Inflation doesnt help either.
You didnt understand the question. Slow down, try again.
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Yes, thats why cereal cost a whole lot more than it use to.
Wait a minute...are you saying it's ExxonMobil who's behind the high cost of my Cheerios?
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damn, this is better than Hee Haw.
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Yes, thats why cereal cost a whole lot more than it use to.
and Inflation doesnt help either.
This is fascinating. Not only are the Oil companies conspiring to make granola more expensive, but now, seperately, Inflation is also raising prices. Surely this was implemented by the Bushes.
What percentage of the rise in Raisin Bran do you attribute to Big Oil and what percentage to Inflation?
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This is funny on multiple levels, especially the one where it's amazing how many people think oil is actually stored in wooden barrels in a warehouse somewhere.
I guarantee that one of those people is actively involved in this thread.
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Wait a minute...are you saying it's ExxonMobil who's behind the high cost of my Cheerios?
OPEC. Try to stay with us here.
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Foolishly, I'm thinking there's still a chance for education here.
I was watching the Olympics, thinking, what could have led to increased demand, and therefore, an increase in the cost of oil? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/27/AR2008072701911_pf.html)
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damn, this is better than Hee Haw.
Nothing is better than Hee Haw. But this is good.
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This is fascinating. Not only are the Oil companies conspiring to make granola more expensive, but now, seperately, Inflation is also raising prices. Surely this was implemented by the Bushes.
What percentage of the rise in Raisin Bran do you attribute to Big Oil and what percentage to Inflation?
No, inflation is another topic that contributes to how the price of oil is jacking up the price of everything else. Yes, that includes the price of cheerios and raisin bran.
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I guarantee that one of those people is actively involved in this thread.
Maybe if ExxonMobil made one of those folksy commercials, like Jack Daniel's, with some rural fellas in overalls and a 1948 pickup truck...
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Foolishly, I'm thinking there's still a chance for education here.
I was watching the Olympics, thinking, what could have led to increased demand, and therefore, an increase in the cost of oil? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/27/AR2008072701911_pf.html)
Can you prove that somehow oil companies do not own the Washington Post?
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Can you prove that somehow oil companies do not own the Washington Post?
WE're getting so close to the Pentaverate.
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Foolishly, I'm thinking there's still a chance for education here.
I was watching the Olympics, thinking, what could have led to increased demand, and therefore, an increase in the cost of oil? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/27/AR2008072701911_pf.html)
Oh come on, I know china is increasing demand substantially but I believe there can be something done to help people out here.
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Oh come on, I know china is increasing demand substantially but I believe there can be something done to help people out here.
Like?
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Oh come on, I know china is increasing demand substantially but I believe there can be something done to help people out here.
What exactly? I would really like to know about your solution(s).
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Nothing is better than Hee Haw. But this is good.
Where, oh where, are you tonight
Why did you leave me here all alone
I searched the world over and thought I found true love
You met another and *pthht* you were gone.
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In other words, you recognize actual reality, but you don't like it and so you are left to petulantly whine "somebody do something!"
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Oh come on, I know china is increasing demand substantially but I believe there can be something done to help people out here.
what would that be, pray tell?
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Like?
Alternative cereals.
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Oh come on, I know china is increasing demand substantially but I believe there can be something done to help people out here.
Fuck them. What about the people in here?
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Possibly not related, but I've had the Dead Milkmen's "Stuart" on a loop in my head for a while now. I believe in my heart that Towlie knows what the queers are doing to the soil. They're in it with the aliens.
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Alternative cereals.
Grapefruit leaves me wind-powered.
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What exactly? I would really like to know about your solution(s).
I dont know, I was hoping you guys would because you do know more than me.
Its kinda upsetting that you guys are perfectly ok with the fact.
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Possibly not related, but I've had the Dead Milkmen's "Stuart" on a loop in my head for a while now. I believe in my heart that Towlie knows what the queers are doing to the soil. They're in it with the aliens.
And the burrow owls.
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Fuck them. What about the people in here?
Fuck Americans? Im talking about the Americans, fuck China they beaned LaPorta in the head cause they dont know that in baseball you will get fucked up if you try to block the plate with your leg.
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No, inflation is another topic that contributes to how the price of oil is jacking up the price of everything else. Yes, that includes the price of cheerios and raisin bran.
The rising costs of goods is directly related to gas prices, but inflation is another story. The value of the dollar is not based just on the cost of of oil.
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And the burrow owls.
Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick, Andy. Everybody knows that burrow owls live in a hole. In the ground.
ETA: And the earth creates oil from them.
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The rising costs of goods is directly related to gas prices, but inflation is another story. The value of the dollar is not based just on the cost of of oil.
but it is a contributor because of distribution prices.
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Alternative cereals.
mmm....fruit loops.
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mmm....fruit loops.
And we come full circle back to Jennifer Beals...
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Fuck Americans? Im talking about the Americans, fuck China they beaned LaPorta in the head cause they dont know that in baseball you will get fucked up if you try to block the plate with your leg.
Jim Lefebvre didn't know that?
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No, seriously - if you think the price of oil is to high, then the best thing to do is to vote with your checkbook.
Buy your electricity from Green Mountain Energy.
Sell your car and by a Vespa.
Contribute to politcal campaigns that support intensive research into alternative energy sources.
Buy a house in one of Houston's solar-powered subdivisions.
If you're willing to do those types of things, THEN I will think that you are sincere in your belief that the price of oil is too high.
Otherwise? It's just bitching and moaning.
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I dont know, I was hoping you guys would because you do know more than me.
Its kinda upsetting that you guys are perfectly ok with the fact.
Claiming all the ridiculous shit you're writing about as "fact" is about as funny as the fact that my series preview is due in a few hours and I haven't even thought about writing it yet.
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No, seriously - if you think the price of oil is to high, then the best thing to do is to vote with your checkbook.
Buy your electricity from Green Mountain Energy.
Sell your car and by a Vespa.
Contribute to politcal campaigns that support intensive research into alternative energy sources.
Buy a house in one of Houston's solar-powered subdivisions.
If you're willing to do those types of things, THEN I will think that you are sincere in your belief that the price of oil is too high.
Otherwise? It's just bitching and moaning.
And only buy Malt-O-Meal.
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mmm....fruit loops.
thats not an alternative cereal, i think the its called fruity circles from malt-o-meal. ;)
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Claiming all the ridiculous shit you're writing about as "fact" is about as funny as the fact that my series preview is due in a few hours and I haven't even thought about writing it yet.
You'll have it up before Monday's TWiB.
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Claiming all the ridiculous shit you're writing about as "fact" is about as funny as the fact that my series preview is due in a few hours and I haven't even thought about writing it yet.
Slacker!
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Claiming all the ridiculous shit you're writing about as "fact" is about as funny as the fact that my series preview is due in a few hours and I haven't even thought about writing it yet.
Fuck it, link to this and tell us who's pitching. Done.
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You think the people who produce the oil for the public dont have any say in how much they want it to sell for?
Damn, I got sucked in. They can want to sell it for a billion dollars. They'll only get what someone is willing to pay for it. You know, that thing called the free market? No one gets to force a price on anyone else unless the government says so. Whoops...
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I dont know, I was hoping you guys would because you do know more than me.
Its kinda upsetting that you guys are perfectly ok with the fact.
There are, what, 20 people on this thread? All of us have a different set of demographics and view points. Jim is an old Christian. Hudson is a middle aged practicing alcoholic/buddihst. JackAstro is a nihilist (reformed). strosrays follows the way of the gun. I myself am a menonite. We come from different economic and social strata.
And each of us has come to the same realization independently...you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You got a lot of the nouns right, but you could use some help with your verbs adjectives and prepositions.
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There are, what, 20 people on this thread? All of us have a different set of demographics and view points. Jim is an old Christian. Hudson is a middle aged practicing alcoholic/buddihst. JackAstro is a nihilist (reformed). strosrays follows the way of the gun. I myself am a menonite. We come from different economic and social strata.
And each of us has come to the same realization independently...you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You got a lot of the nouns right, but you could use some help with your verbs adjectives and prepositions.
and spelling and punctuation and grammar and....
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Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick, Andy. Everybody knows that burrow owls live in a hole. In the ground.
ETA: And the earth creates oil from them.
Now, you wanna talk about bladder problems, then the man you wanna talk to will probably be my cousin Earl. I guess you all know Earl; he livesout on Route 13 out on that maggot farm. Earl don't like it when you get his maggot farm confused with a worm farm. A worm farm is for worms, and a maggot farm is for maggots, and Earl's got the biggest maggots in the
state. Three feet long. Of course, now Earl believes this might be due to the fact that St. Smithen's Medical Facility has been dumping their waste on his property. Interesting thing about three-foot maggots is that... that, well, one day the china disappeared, and then the next day his television disappeared, and then a few days after that, his '57 Chevy disappeared. But there they are: the world's biggest maggots.
Anyway, one day, Earl and I were standin' in the kitchen, giant maggots crawlin' across the floor, and Earl turns to me, and he says, "Do you ever go to make a pork sausage, and find that it's got hairs all over it?" and he gives me a look that still chills me to this day.
Now, Earl's got a son, and they call him Earl Junior, which I think is pretty clever, since he is Earl's son. He's not really a normal boy, ever since that tractor accident. Anyway, he ran up $5,000 worth of "976-" phone bills. He called weird, unnatural numbers, like "976-PIGG" with two G's, and "976-SHEEP", which has five letters in it, I know. He's a sick boy. Earl suggested that, well, maybe I talk to him. So I went into his bedroom, and I sat him down, but before I could say a word, Earl Junior looked at me, and he said, "Didja ever go to make a pork sausage, and find it's got hairs all over it?" And he gave me a look that still chills me to this day.
Now, Earl's got a daughter, and they call her Effie-Sue. And Effie-Sue, she don't look so much like a little girl, as she looks like a... a big pile of fungus. Earl blames this, too, on the fact that St. Smithen's Medical Facility has been dumpin' on his maggot farm. And, I never had much contact with Essie... Effie-Sue. Excuse me, I don't even think that much of her to get her name right. I never had much contact with her. She just normallyjust sits on the couch like a little ball of fungus and just... boils away. Well, one day, she looked at me, and
that little ball of fungus opened its mouth (or what I guess was its mouth - I'd hate to think what else it could be), and out of that orifice floated the words, "Didja ever go to make a... a pork sausage and find it's got hair all over it?", and then that... that little pile of fungus gave me a look that chills me to this day.
Now, Earl's got a wife, and we call her... Wife. We don't know her name, because she's never really said that much. For the longest time, we thought she could only say two words, which were "dog" and "pussy". We thought that meant "dog" and "cat", but then we found out that what she was really trying to say was "dog-pussy", one big hyphenated word,
which doesn't come up much in conversation, especially amongst Baptists. We never heard her say anything other than that. You know, she works down at... down at St. Smithen's Medical Facility and Pork Sausage Distillery, got a good-paying job there, although she only does say those... well that one word. And we have heard her say another thing
once, but that was a long time ago. We were sittin' around the house, and she looked at me, and she said, "Do you ever go to make a pork sausage, and find that it's got hairs growin' all over it?", and she gave me a look that chills me to this day.
Now, one day, Earl took his whole family fishin' down in Miller's Creek. He took his wife, who could only say "dog-pussy"; he took his son, Earl Junior, who took the day off from calling "976-" barnyard numbers; and he took that little... that little ball of fungus daughter, Effie-Sue, of his along with him. They all got in a little boat and they started fishing. Now St. Smithen's Medical Facility and Pork Sausage Distillery has been known to dump their stuff into Miller's Creek. All sorts of heinous stuff, big barrels floatin' in the creek, with little things on them that say "St. Smithen's Medical Facility and Pork Sausage Distillery". Anyway, Earl was fishing, and he caught a wall-eyed bass, which had twenty-seven eyes on it. It was a twenty-seven-eyed wall-eyed bass. Earl looked at it, and decided, "Mmmm, wouldn't this be good to eat!" So he took out his knife to cut it open. But that fish looked up at him, and it said, "Please, mister! Please, don't eat me!" And Earl said, "But I'm hungry! I'm hungry! I work on a maggot farm! My wife can only say 'dog-pussy'! My daughter is a pile of fungus! My son spent all of his college money calling '976-' numbers! I have to eat you!" And that fish said, "Please, don't eat me, mister, please!" And he said, "I have to! I have to!" So the fish said, "Alright then, if you're gonna cut me open, let me ask you one question: Didja ever go to eat a pork sausage and find it's got hairs growin' all over it?" And then, all twenty-seven eyes stared back at Earl, and they stared back at his wife who could only say "dog-pussy", and they stared back at his weird "976-" animal-calling son, and they stared back at that... little pile of pus that passes for Earl's daughter. And they gave them a look! All twenty-seven eyes gave them a look! A look that they will not forget until this very day!
Oh, ma
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No, seriously - if you think the price of oil is to high, then the best thing to do is to vote with your checkbook.
Buy your electricity from Green Mountain Energy.
Sell your car and by a Vespa.
Contribute to politcal campaigns that support intensive research into alternative energy sources.
Buy a house in one of Houston's solar-powered subdivisions.
If you're willing to do those types of things, THEN I will think that you are sincere in your belief that the price of oil is too high.
Otherwise? It's just bitching and moaning.
You have to have a good amount of money to do that and unfortunately most people don't. That still doesn't justify leaving them be though so something has to be done to help them out.
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You have to have a good amount of money to do that and unfortunately most people don't. That still doesn't justify leaving them be though so something has to be done to help them out.
Then the problem isn't that the price of oil is too high, it's that people don't have enough income.
And I agree - we should do more to develop our education system, job training, etc., to move people into higher-paying jobs. But that has nothing to do with the price of oil.
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You have to have a good amount of money to do that and unfortunately most people don't. That still doesn't justify leaving them be though so something has to be done to help them out.
what? give your solutions or stop whining.
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Now, you wanna talk about bladder problems...
Now I have Tom Waits's "Frank's Wild Years" running through my head.
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Now, you wanna talk about bladder problems, then the man you wanna talk
to will probably be my cousin Earl. I guess you all know Earl; he lives
out on Route 13 out on that maggot farm. Earl don't like it when you get
his maggot farm confused with a worm farm. A worm farm is for worms, and
a maggot farm is for maggots, and Earl's got the biggest maggots in the
state. Three feet long. Of course, now Earl believes this might be due
to the fact that St. Smithen's Medical Facility has been dumping their
waste on his property. Interesting thing about three-foot maggots is
that... that, well, one day the china disappeared, and then the next
day his television disappeared, and then a few days after that, his
'57 Chevy disappeared. But there they are: the world's biggest maggots.
Anyway, one day, Earl and I were standin' in the kitchen, giant maggots
crawlin' across the floor, and Earl turns to me, and he says, "Do you
ever go to make a pork sausage, and find that it's got hairs all over
it?" and he gives me a look that still chills me to this day.
Now, Earl's got a son, and they call him Earl Junior, which I think is
pretty clever, since he is Earl's son. He's not really a normal boy,
ever since that tractor accident. Anyway, he ran up $5,000 worth of
"976-" phone bills. He called weird, unnatural numbers, like "976-PIGG"
with two G's, and "976-SHEEP", which has five letters in it, I know.
He's a sick boy. Earl suggested that, well, maybe I talk to him. So I
went into his bedroom, and I sat him down, but before I could say a
word, Earl Junior looked at me, and he said, "Didja ever go to make a
pork sausage, and find it's got hairs all over it?" And he gave me a
look that still chills me to this day.
Now, Earl's got a daughter, and they call her Effie-Sue. And Effie-Sue,
she don't look so much like a little girl, as she looks like a... a big
pile of fungus. Earl blames this, too, on the fact that St. Smithen's
Medical Facility has been dumpin' on his maggot farm. And, I never had
much contact with Essie... Effie-Sue. Excuse me, I don't even think
that much of her to get her name right. I never had much contact with
her. She just normallyjust sits on the couch like a little ball of
fungus and just... boils away. Well, one day, she looked at me, and
that little ball of fungus opened its mouth (or what I guess was its
mouth - I'd hate to think what else it could be), and out of that
orifice floated the words, "Didja ever go to make a... a pork sausage
and find it's got hair all over it?", and then that... that little pile
of fungus gave me a look that chills me to this day.
Now, Earl's got a wife, and we call her... Wife. We don't know her
name, because she's never really said that much. For the longest time,
we thought she could only say two words, which were "dog" and "pussy".
We thought that meant "dog" and "cat", but then we found out that what
she was really trying to say was "dog-pussy", one big hyphenated word,
which doesn't come up much in conversation, especially amongst Baptists.
We never heard her say anything other than that. You know, she works
down at... down at St. Smithen's Medical Facility and Pork Sausage
Distillery, got a good-paying job there, although she only does say
those... well that one word. And we have heard her say another thing
once, but that was a long time ago. We were sittin' around the house,
and she looked at me, and she said, "Do you ever go to make a pork
sausage, and find that it's got hairs growin' all over it?", and she
gave me a look that chills me to this day.
Now, one day, Earl took his whole family fishin' down in Miller's Creek.
He took his wife, who could only say "dog-pussy"; he took his son, Earl
Junior, who took the day off from calling "976-" barnyard numbers; and
he took that little... that little ball of fungus daughter, Effie-Sue,
of his along with him. They all got in a little boat and they started
fishing. Now St. Smithen's Medical Facility and Pork Sausage Distillery
has been known to dump their stuff into Miller's Creek. All sorts of
heinous stuff, big barrels floatin' in the creek, with little things on
them that say "St. Smithen's Medical Facility and Pork Sausage
Distillery". Anyway, Earl was fishing, and he caught a wall-eyed bass,
which had twenty-seven eyes on it. It was a twenty-seven-eyed wall-eyed
bass. Earl looked at it, and decided, "Mmmm, wouldn't this be good to
eat!" So he took out his knife to cut it open. But that fish looked up
at him, and it said, "Please, mister! Please, don't eat me!" And Earl
said, "But I'm hungry! I'm hungry! I work on a maggot farm! My wife can
only say 'dog-pussy'! My daughter is a pile of fungus! My son spent all
of his college money calling '976-' numbers! I have to eat you!" And
that fish said, "Please, don't eat me, mister, please!" And he said,
"I have to! I have to!" So the fish said, "Alright then, if you're
gonna cut me open, let me ask you one question: Didja ever go to eat
a pork sausage and find it's got hairs growin' all over it?" And then,
all twenty-seven eyes stared back at Earl, and they stared back at his
wife who could only say "dog-pussy", and they stared back at his weird
"976-" animal-calling son, and they stared back at that... little pile
of pus that passes for Earl's daughter. And they gave them a look! All
twenty-seven eyes gave them a look! A look that they will not forget
until this very day!
Oh, ma
Noe? Quit logging in as Zipp!
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There are, what, 20 people on this thread? All of us have a different set of demographics and view points. Jim is an old Christian. Hudson is a middle aged practicing alcoholic/buddihst. JackAstro is a nihilist (reformed). strosrays follows the way of the gun. I myself am a menonite. We come from different economic and social strata.
And each of us has come to the same realization independently...you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You got a lot of the nouns right, but you could use some help with your verbs adjectives and prepositions.
If that's the realization you've come up with even though you do have more knowledge on the situation than myself, then I have the right to feel bad about the people I'm mostly concerned with.
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Should this thread be re-titled "Thursday Time Waster" ?
eta: to change Wednesday to Thursday. Damnit this week is flying by...
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Seriously, though. What the fuck is net neutrality?
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Should this thread be re-titled "Wednesday Time Waster" ?
Considering just about every other fact in it is wrong.
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Should this thread be re-titled "Thursday Time Waster" ?
eta: to change Wednesday to Thursday. Damnit this week is flying by...
"Towlie's Day Off"
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If that's the realization you've come up with even though you do have more knowledge on the situation than myself, then I have the right to feel bad about the people I'm mostly concerned with.
It's not the audience's fault for not "understanding" your material.
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Then the problem isn't that the price of oil is too high, it's that people don't have enough income.
And I agree - we should do more to develop our education system, job training, etc., to move people into higher-paying jobs. But that has nothing to do with the price of oil.
The price of oil is raising the standard of living, along with inflation, and a bunch of other things. Its just that no one wants to raise income to help people out.
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Seriously, though. What the fuck is net neutrality?
Pull up the video of The Daily Show. It's the clearest explanation I've seen so far, and I'm in IT.
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It's not the audience's fault for not "understanding" your material.
The hell it's not. It's the starving artist's motto!
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It's not the audience's fault for not "understanding" your material.
Music Man seems to understand whats bugging me about the situation.
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The price of oil is raising the standard of living, along with inflation, and a bunch of other things. Its just that no one wants to raise income to help people out.
Life's a bitch ain't it.
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"Towlie's Day Off"
Well, one can definitely tell it's an off day. Not a single post in the TZ in over an hour.
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The price of oil is raising the standard of living, along with inflation, and a bunch of other things. Its just that no one wants to raise income to help people out.
Well, we could just fix the price of gas at $1/gallon. It worked well in the USSR.
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Music Man seems to understand whats bugging me about the situation.
Yes, I do. (http://www.spikesnstars.com/forums/index.php?topic=106719.msg227395#msg227395)
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Well, we could just fix the price of gas at $1/gallon. It worked well in the USSR.
Eh, communism x.x
Of course this has always been a problem in the past but it just seems that right now, its effecting a much larger portion of the country than it did in the past.
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Music Man seems to understand whats bugging me about the situation.
I think you just made it onto MM's shit list.
By the way, you need to look up "standard of living".
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The price of oil is raising the standard of living, along with inflation, and a bunch of other things. Its just that no one wants to raise income to help people out.
Who are these people you are concerned about, who sit around waiting for someone to raise their income?
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Well, one can definitely tell it's an off day. Not a single post in the TZ in over an hour.
And this thread has metastasized from 5 to 13 pages in under two hours. And stilll growing!
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Yes, I do. (http://www.spikesnstars.com/forums/index.php?topic=106719.msg227395#msg227395)
Yes, but that's much better than just sitting on my ass and letting it happen without trying to get something done.
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Well, one can definitely tell it's an off day. Not a single post in the TZ in over an hour.
I finally learned something in this thread!
I learned that I've got a full day until my preview is due!
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Well, we could just fix the price of gas at $1/gallon. It worked well in the USSR.
The Former Soviet Union is on the verge of Dutch Disease, from what I've read. They just have an interesting way of combating it. Well, maybe not so unique to a Socialist country but alas.
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Eh, communism x.x
Of course this has always been a problem in the past but it just seems that right now, its effecting a much larger portion of the country than it did in the past.
There's no way to say this without sounding condescending, but you clearly didn't live through the late 70's.
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Who are these people you are concerned about, who sit around waiting for someone to raise their income?
They dont sit around, they work...they're the majority of the middle class.
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Yes, but that's much better than just sitting on my ass and letting it happen without trying to get something done.
Trying what? I think you missed his point.
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Yes, but that's much better than just sitting on my ass and letting it happen without trying to get something done.
Really? (http://www.spikesnstars.com/forums/index.php?topic=106719.msg227421#msg227421)
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There's no way to say this without sounding condescending, but you clearly didn't live through the late 70's.
course not, im a 19 year old being schooled by older people.
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They dont sit around, they work...they're the majority of the middle class.
So the majority of the middle class is waiting for someone to raise their income for them? I'm calling bullshit, here. Start naming names.
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course not, im a 19 year old being schooled by older people.
We finally agree on something.
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I learned that I've got a full day until my preview is due!
Zipper, on the other hand, is screwed.
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So the majority of the middle class is waiting for someone to raise their income for them? I'm calling bullshit, here. Start naming names.
Isn't that the whole point of lottery tickets?
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So the majority of the middle class is waiting for someone to raise their income for them? I'm calling bullshit, here. Start naming names.
or lower the standard of living. Unless you think being middle class is an easy breeze through life.
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or lower the standard of living. Unless you think being middle class is an easy breeze through life.
Quick question: Does "standard of living" in your mind mean "cost of living?"
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Yes, but that's much better than just sitting on my ass and letting it happen without trying to get something done.
Yeah! To hell with those slackers! I've been busy, yes I have, using an experimental early fossilization technique (patent pending) to squeeze sweet crude oil out of a cow's mammary glands instead of milk, even though a gallon of oil at current prices is less expensive than a gallon of milk. I also have in the works a methane gas generator as an alternate energy source. This thread alone could power my generator for days...
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They dont sit around, they work...they're the majority of the middle class.
Listen, I'm squarely in the middle of the middle. I have two kids, a small house that's not near the center of town, soaring grocery and gas costs, and good understanding of the net neutrality issue. And I absolutely, positively don't want you as my advocate.
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Isn't that the whole point of lottery tickets?
Dang, I didn't get a single number right on the Powerball draw last night.
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or lower the standard of living. Unless you think being middle class is an easy breeze through life.
Wait a minute. . . lower their standard of living? Oh, never mind. . . and, kindly refrain from lecturing me about what being middle class is like, thanks.
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or lower the standard of living. Unless you think being middle class is an easy breeze through life.
"Middle class" in the US = higher standard of living (not "cost of living") than 95% of the earth's population.
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Music Man seems to understand whats bugging me about the situation.
Well, what's bugging me about the situation is that your opinions, as you've demonstrated to this point, are based on, at best misconceptions and at worst downright dishonesty.
When asked to elaborate on anything, you have provided "facts", which when refuted or debunked, you conveniently continue to use.
When asked for a solution, you've given us "something" which apparently must be done, but with no plan apparent by what you've typed.
Now that you've been pressed a bit, you seem to be upset that "no one" is willing to provide carte blanche COLA to the disenfranchised.
To that point, you and everyone else have certain rights. Among these is the right to choose your profession, and attempt to make a living doing whatever you want (to a point). No one is forcing lower income families to work where they work. They have the right to pursue jobs that will pay more. They are not entitled to pay of any sort just for existing. The same goes for increases. The people you're worried about can pursue education, budget their time and energies (and monies) and move to different regions pursuing the highest income possible. It is not any employer's responsibility to keep up with Oil prices, inflation, aliens or anything else. They will pay what they have to pay to produce and deliver their goods or services. If they were doing more than that, good for them, but it's neither a moral, ethical or legal responsbility.
In this country, you are supposed to be responsible for your personal wealth, health and happiness. No one is supposed to be doing it for you.
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Quick question: Does "standard of living" in your mind mean "cost of living?"
no, cost of living is something different. though i should have used cost of living in that matter. whoops.
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or lower the standard of living. Unless you think being middle class is an easy breeze through life.
It's not. And it's not supposed to be. Are you of the opinion you're entitled to a breezy life?
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"Life is pain, highness."
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It's not. And it's not supposed to be. Are you of the opinion you're entitled to a breezy life?
No im entitled to be sarcastic though...sarcasm on the internet doesn't work too well.
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There's no way to say this without sounding condescending, but you clearly didn't live through the late 70's.
Granted in 2008, there's more media coverage of it.
I didn't say better or more thorough coverage...
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It's not. And it's not supposed to be. Are you of the opinion you're entitled to a breezy life?
Zipp, I know you didn't ask me, but if you did ask me, I would say that I would like a Towel pinned around my shoulders, so that I may use it as a cape. Then, of course, a breezy life would look so dashing, were said Towel billowing mightily!
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It's not. And it's not supposed to be. Are you of the opinion you're entitled to a breezy life?
Easy, breazy, beautiful.
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No im entitled to be sarcastic though...sarcasm on the internet doesn't work too well.
Sarcasm works fine on the internet. You just have to be sure it doesn't get diluted by net neutrality.
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Seriously, though. What the fuck is net neutrality?
the quick and the dirty:
You see the intertubes isn't just one large entity out there. It is an actual reflection of its name, a large number of individual networks that are interconnected.
There is a standing "gentelman's" agreement to allow other networks traffic to pass through intermediary networks with out interference.
Some of the larger telecoms have been considering violating said agreement of network traffic neutrality. Basically what they want to do is extort a fee out of larger online companies (ie Google), in order for traffic to and from Google to pass through their network unmolested. If Google refuses, then they can/will slow traffic to and from Google, making it impossible to be reached from a user on their network.
This also applies to traffic shaping according to specific types of network protocols being transmitted. In the case of Comcast (in which they are in a bit of a spat with the FCC over), they have been shown to disrupting and interfering with individuals if they detect a rise in bittorrent traffic from their IP address. The manner in which they do this is in violation of not just the network neutrality agreement, but actually could be considered to violate several federal laws.
The Telecom lobby (back again to Evil Corporations) have been trying to push through congress legislation allowing them to do these things at will. The other side's lobbyists (More Evil Corporations, Google, et al) are trying to push through legislation to specifically block said actions.
I'm all in favor of the second set of Evil Corporations myself.
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its been fun to kill time with you all, but i gotta go now. I appreciate it.
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its been fun to kill time with you all, but i gotta go now. I appreciate it.
Ice that down, or it's going to swell.
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Wow - I was wondering where everyone was today. After spending the last hour reading all this, now I know.
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or lower the standard of living. Unless you think being middle class is an easy breeze through life.
We're all real sorry you're not going to get to go to film school, since your dad fucked up his credit and couldn't qualify for a student loan (which, BTW, I'll bet he'd be tempted to throttle you if he knew you were posting shit like that on-line.) That really sucks, and I am not being sarcastic. But still, to this point you have lived a standard of living higher than about 98% of the rest of the people in the world. You can cry about it or be appreciative, I don't care. But you are in no way qualified to be an advocate for the downtrodden, except as a dilettante. Until you get some experience, you might want to back off the world-weariness, as well. You can do what you want, including continuing down the road you are on now; if so, you got a fairly painless preview here today of what you are in for.
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We need some Afterschool Special Music here. I'd like to think that young Towlie has actually learned something today.
Of course, I'd like to think that Tuesday's victory was prelude to a thrilling playoff run, or that Andy will get Off Day up, or that This Week in Baseball hasn't become This Two Weeks in Baseball.
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I finally learned something in this thread!
I learned that I've got a full day until my preview is due!
I love it when that happens.
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I'd like to know what the fuck a mickey mouse corp is?
Let me introduce you to my IT Dept.
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Let me introduce you to my IT Dept.
Damn, I feel like I'm watching Cooper wave in Valverde to preserve a three-run lead in the 9th. We needed you in the middle of this thing, man.
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Let me introduce you to my IT Dept.
If you are a Scottish Lord, then I am a Mickey Mouse Corporation?
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It's been a long time since I literally cried with laughter.
Hey, Towlie, do yourself a favor. Save this thread as a text file. After about 20 years dig it up and give it a read. If we haven't turned into oil come back and let us know what your impressions are 20 years hence.
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If you are a Scottish Lord, then I am a Mickey Mouse Corporation?
beats the hell out of me. I'm just here to view the tapestries.
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Mets. I hate these guys.
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WHERE IS LIMEY?
Corporations aren't bad, they are designed - within the boundaries of the law - to fuck everyone possible in the march towards shareholder value.
If you have a problem with corporations, you need to take it up with the people who set their boundaries, namely lawmakers.
There's elections in November.
If Jim says there were no such things as dinosaurs, I believe him. He was there, so he would know.
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Corporations aren't bad, they are designed - within the boundaries of the law - to fuck everyone possible in the march towards shareholder value.
If you have a problem with corporations, you need to take it up with the people who set their boundaries, namely lawmakers.
There's elections in November.
If Jim says there were no such things as dinosaurs, I believe him. He was there, so he would know.
yep. i'm telling you.
i cannot wait to watch Obama abolish all corporations everywhere.
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yep. i'm telling you.
i cannot wait to watch Obama Ron Paul abolish all corporations everywhere.
Give Towlie a LITTLE credit!
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Well, it's either that or let McCain set them all up tax free.
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I finally learned something in this thread!
I learned that I've got a full day until my preview is due!
But you have 4 games to preview instead of the usual three.
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Well, it's either that or let McCain set them all up tax free.
i was for Hilary. i don't like either of my choices.
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i was for Hilary. i don't like either of my choices.
I liked Fresh Prince as much as the next guy, but Hilary? really? Her talkshow sucked.
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Holee fuck. Can a whole thread be nominated for POTWA? Nice job everyone.
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Holee fuck. Can a whole thread be nominated for POTWA? Nice job everyone.
as Bum would say: "This was more fun than a little bit."
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I dont do drugs
you should
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as Bum would say: "This was more fun than a little bit."
I kept waiting for a few bon mots from Taras. He's going to be pissed that he missed this.
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I kept waiting for a few bon mots from Taras. He's going to be pissed that he missed this.
Or have about 25 responses in a row once he gets back.
Hopefully he didn't take his own advice (http://www.spikesnstars.com/forums/index.php?topic=106661.msg225804#msg225804) too seriously, or he might be too tired to type 'em.
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I kept waiting for a few bon mots from Taras. He's going to be pissed that he missed this.
There will be many people who will be sorry they missed out on the fun today.
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There will be many people who will be sorry they missed out on the fun today.
especially Towlie.
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We're all real sorry you're not going to get to go to film school, since your dad fucked up his credit and couldn't qualify for a student loan (which, BTW, I'll bet he'd be tempted to throttle you if he knew you were posting shit like that on-line.) That really sucks, and I am not being sarcastic. But still, to this point you have lived a standard of living higher than about 98% of the rest of the people in the world. You can cry about it or be appreciative, I don't care. But you are in no way qualified to be an advocate for the downtrodden, except as a dilettante. Until you get some experience, you might want to back off the world-weariness, as well. You can do what you want, including continuing down the road you are on now; if so, you got a fairly painless preview here today of what you are in for.
Ah, id like it if you didn't bring in my parents credit history into the argument. You have no idea what happened to have that happen and no, it wasn't frivolous spending, it was more so of a tragedy.
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You're the one who told us all about his credit problems destroying your dreams of film school. He should be very upset that you said that on a message board.
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You're the one who told us all about his credit problems destroying your dreams of film school. He should be very upset that you said that on a message board.
Meh, at the time it was all crashing down, I was fairly desperate and looking for any advice on the situation. Also, Its not because he has horrendous credit because he doesn't, its just not credit that's good enough to get 40k worth in a student loan. Also, in hindsight on the whole situation, I think staying where I am now is the best situation financially and for my family. I'm greatful, very greatful and blessed about what I have. Compared to the people I was referring to earlier, I'm sitting in a very nice new home on my expensive laptop my parents got me and with many of the other amenities a kid like me would desire. My life is good at this point...I just kinda wish everyone else could have something like this if not better, very idealistic, I know.
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3.) Ok, oil is made from the fossils of things that died millions of year ago. Each year something dies, and each year a dead something had the chance to be turned into that black gold called oil. Its been happening for years on end...but apparently we are running out of oil. If you notice, it seems like every now and then they say "hey we found more oil". The earth creates it!
Next up, Mr. DNA's gonna teach us all about dinosaur cloning!
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Back on topic, I think if Comcast started piping 99% of internet traffic to /dev/null we would all be better off.
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Back on topic, I think if Comcast started piping 99% of internet traffic to /dev/null we would all be better off.
I resemble that remark.
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Back on topic, I think if Comcast started piping 99% of internet traffic to /dev/null we would all be better off.
Oh, the geek jokes just keep on coming... love it... LOVE IT!
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Has she piped in on the Anheuser-Busch situation, yet? Is Big Beer somehow less evil than Big Oil?
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Has she piped in on the Anheuser-Busch situation, yet? Is Big Beer somehow less evil than Big Oil?
In my experience, 19 year old girls are more interested in Big Wine Coolers (or whatever they're calling fruity malt liquor these days...)
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In my experience, 19 year old girls are more interested in Big Wine Coolers (or whatever they're calling fruity malt liquor these days...)
All I know is they seem to be less and less interested in me...maybe I need to throw a sixer of Bartles & James in my beer cooler.
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In my experience, 19 year old girls are more interested in Big Wine Coolers (or whatever they're calling fruity malt liquor these days...)
In your experience, 19 year old girls are all named Crystal, Tiffany, Bambi, or Angel, and they seem to have a fervent predilection for one-dollar bills.
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All I know is they seem to be less and less interested in me...maybe I need to throw a sixer of Bartles & James in my beer cooler.
Might do better with Mojito's old timer.
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In your experience, 19 year old girls are all named Crystal, Tiffany, Bambi, or Angel, and they seem to have a fervent predilection for one-dollar bills.
It's just to get them through college.
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In your experience, 19 year old girls are all named Crystal, Tiffany, Bambi, or Angel, and they seem to have a fervent predilection for one-dollar bills.
But they're all paying their way through college!
ETA: Cabrera'ed by 7 damn seconds?!?!
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In my experience, 19 year old girls are more interested in Big Wine Coolers (or whatever they're calling fruity malt liquor these days...)
Depends on how rich the family is.
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In my experience, 19 year old girls are more interested in Big Wine Coolers (or whatever they're calling fruity malt liquor these days...)
Alcopops.
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All I know is they seem to be less and less interested in me...maybe I need to throw a sixer of Bartles & James in my beer cooler.
I once saw an arrticle on how older men can get laid at spring break. The essentials were: wear a hat; spend money and wait for them to come to you. The simple truth is that you look stupid trying to compete with the young studs, but what you have that they don't is time (see Pence, Hunter) and spending power (relative to most students). Stay at the bar, buy everyone drinks and eventually you will acquire an entourage of chicks who have run out of money but want to keep partying. At the end of the night, after everyone else has left because they've run out of money and/or have hooked up, you are king of the castle and your subjects are mostly chicks who have got drunk on your dime...
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Alcopops.
aka Tart Fuel.
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I once saw an arrticle on how older men can get laid at spring break. The essentials were: wear a hat; spend money and wait for them to come to you. The simple truth is that you look stupid trying to compete with the young studs, but what you have that they don't is time (see Pence, Hunter) and spending power (relative to most students). Stay at the bar, buy everyone drinks and eventually you will acquire an entourage of chicks who have run out of money but want to keep partying. At the end of the night, after everyone else has left because they've run out of money and/or have hooked up, you are king of the castle and your subjects are mostly chicks who have got drunk on your dime...
Limey, you know there are pictures of naked women in those magazines, right?
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I once saw an arrticle on how older men can get laid at spring break. The essentials were: wear a hat; spend money and wait for them to come to you. The simple truth is that you look stupid trying to compete with the young studs, but what you have that they don't is time (see Pence, Hunter) and spending power (relative to most students). Stay at the bar, buy everyone drinks and eventually you will acquire an entourage of chicks who have run out of money but want to keep partying. At the end of the night, after everyone else has left because they've run out of money and/or have hooked up, you are king of the castle and your subjects are mostly chicks who have got drunk on your dime...
Sounds almost unfair...like fishing with Dynomite. Towlie, in your experiences, does this work?
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In your experience, 19 year old girls are all named Crystal, Tiffany, Bambi, or Angel, and they seem to have a fervent predilection for one-dollar bills.
Last night, I had an Epiphany. On second thought, that probably wasn't her real name.
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Last night, I had an Epiphany. On second thought, that probably wasn't her real name.
Look, whatever role-playing you're into should really stay within your bedroom.
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Towlie, in your experiences, does this work?
Does this qualify as the worst pickup line in an internet chat room?
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Does this qualify as the worst pickup line in an internet chat room?
This does not even crack my top ten...or I guess they would be better referred to as the bottom ten
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This does not even crack my top ten...or I guess they would be better referred to as the bottom ten
number one is "I put on my robe and wizard hat..."
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number one is "I put on my robe and wizard hat..."
no...it is "you know you would make the most beautiful Princess Leigha ever"
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no...it is "you know you would make the most beautiful Princess Leigha ever"
I've always been partial to... "Does this rag smell like cloroform to you?"
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I've always been partial to... "Does this rag smell like cloroform to you?"
What you guys have never used "you remind me so much of my mother."
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number one is "I put on my robe and wizard hat..."
"Rhinocerouses don't play around. They fucking charge your ass."
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What you guys have never used "you remind me so much of my mother."
Only on my wife and then, only after we'd been married several years and I knew she would not immediately file divorce papers. Jeez, you'd think she could take a joke after a while!
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It's just to get them through college.
How 'bout a, "HELL, YEAH!!" ?
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"Rhinocerouses don't play around. They fucking charge your ass."
BloodNinja jokes never get old.
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no...it is "you know you would make the most beautiful Princess Leigha ever"
This would be more accurate if you spelled Leia correctly.
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This would be more accurate if you spelled Leia correctly.
I have been outed...I am not a Star Wars Geek
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I have been outed...I am not a Star Wars Geek
obligatory.... (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x115u4_triumph-the-insult-comic-dog-star-w)
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obligatory.... (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x115u4_triumph-the-insult-comic-dog-star-w)
Classic.
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obligatory.... (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x115u4_triumph-the-insult-comic-dog-star-w)
Seriously... thank you. That never gets old.
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Seriously... thank you. That never gets old.
My favorite line is when he's talking to the pregnant lady.
"Six weeks, huh? I guess that will be the last time he ever sees female genitalia."
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BloodNinja jokes never get old.
HAR!
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Sounds almost unfair...like fishing with Dynomite. Towlie, in your experiences, does this work?
Unfortunately, I know some girls who have legs that spread like butter once a little liquor and money is added to the equation.
*cringe*
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This would be more accurate if you spelled Leia correctly.
The silent "g" is very English, which means you're cheating at Scrabble.
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Unfortunately, I know some girls who have legs that spread like butter once a little liquor and money is added to the equation.
*cringe*
You say that like it's something new.
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Unfortunately, I know some girls who have legs that spread like butter once a little liquor and money is added to the equation.
*cringe*
So the majority of the middle class is waiting for someone to raise their income for them? I'm calling bullshit, here. Start naming names.
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Take a couple of days off and you guys all gang up on a little girl.
Hee Haw was greatness.
Dazed and Confused, should have won an Oscar.
And Towlie, needs to call BR549 for someone who cares.
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Unfortunately, I know some girls who have legs that spread like butter once a little liquor and money is added to the equation.
*cringe*
Nature says that I want you but
only if you want me to so SPRRRRREEEEEAAAAAAAADDDDD
Spread for me!
(I can't wait to get you home)
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I'm waiting for the day when they use that in a Miracle Whip commercial.
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I just learned that a business's responsibility is to create American jobs.
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I just learned that a business's responsibility is to create American jobs.
If that was true, why do politicians take credit for it?
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If that was true, why do politicians take credit for it?
Forget it, he's rolling.
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Well, fuck me.
Apparently this thread happened while I was On A Break. I just found it.
I can't believe no one called me. Some friends.
I'd like to see a One Year Update. Not from Towlie, I want to know if Limey and chuck made Spring Break plans.
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One of the funniest threads in TZ history
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One of the funniest threads in TZ history
Yep. I just reread the whole thing. God bless Towlie!
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I'd like to see a One Year Update. Not from Towlie, I want to know if Limey and chuck made Spring Break plans.
Yep. Chuck plans on going, and he also plans on kicking my ass if I don't make it over there for at least a few days.
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Yep. Chuck plans on going, and he also plans on kicking my ass if I don't make it over there for at least a few days.
You should so go. Whether or not you hang out with Chuck is up to you.
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You should so go. Whether or not you hang out with Chuck is up to you.
Depends upon one's proclivities.
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I'd like to know what the fuck a mickey mouse corp is?
Disney World, man.
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Disney World, man.
You somehow remembered an off-hand comment from six weeks ago and went digging back through the old pages of threads in order to post a pithy response?
ETA: Make that a year and six weeks.
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You somehow remembered an off-hand comment from six weeks ago and went digging back through the old pages of threads in order to post a pithy response?
ETA: Make that a year and six weeks.
Any reason to bump this thread is a good reason.
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Any reason to bump this thread off is a good reason.
FIFY.
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Yep. I just reread the whole thing. God bless Towlie!
I am profoundly disappointed that this thread did not take place during The Void. What ever will we do now?
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I am profoundly disappointed that this thread did not take place during The Void. What ever will we do now?
Ask Towlie to start a thread on the Public Option that will evolve into an analysis of the child rape laws in California, vis a vis their potential to deprive the world of another overrated movie.
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Well, fuck me.
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I'd like to see a One Year Update. Not from Towlie, I want to know if Limey and chuck made Spring Break plans.
Looks like Alkie almost got his wish.
As for me, it looks like a fried-day after re-reading this whole thing. Wow!
ET compensate fo the fact that the "r" on my keyboard has decided not to work about half the time
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Buy your electricity from Green Mountain Energy.
I buy my electricity from Green Mountain. I also pay extra for carbon credits, mostly to offset my V8-powered "fuck you" Nazi sled.
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I buy my electricity from Green Mountain. I also pay extra for carbon credits, mostly to offset my V8-powered "fuck you" Nazi sled.
I'll give you a deal on some carbon credits.
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Looks like Alkie almost got his wish.
As for me, it looks like a fried-day after re-reading this whole thing. Wow!
ET compensate fo the fact that the "r" on my keyboard has decided not to work about half the time
I started reading it, and it sounded familiar, and then I saw the "8" as in "2008." I hold Alkie responsible for the waste of my time, but he's good at that.
In any event, it's still a classic thread. I almost think Towlie is some 45-year-old pulling everybody's leg sounding like a gullible high school freshman.
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Could not resist. After wasting my entire afternoon and scaring all the patrons of my local Starbucks as I laughed out loud over and over, I just have to bump this classic thread back into circulation.
ETA: And it is during the void this time.