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General Discussion => Talk Zone => Topic started by: ybbodeus on July 15, 2008, 07:01:13 pm
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Has Joe Buck been caught yawning, yet?
How I do love me some hoops and pigskin, but nothing touches the pageantry and elegance of baseball, and for all its faults no game pays homage to its history and its legends as does MLB with its All-Star Game. This pre-game ceremony is oustanding.
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It gives me chills to see these guys out there on the field. I don't think I've seen Gibson or Whitey Ford in years.
Is Steinbrenner crying?
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They pay homage well, do they not?
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Joe Buck looks downright ghoulish in HD.
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Is Steinbrenner crying?
Maybe Constanza screwed up his sandwich order again.
Seem to recall George's crying the last time his bunch won a WS.
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The music they keep playing sounds familiar... Is it original? It kind of sounds like the theme to some "epic" miniseries from years past... North and South, perhaps, or something of that ilk.
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I can't wait until we see Biggio and Bagwell honored like that. We need some Astros hats in the Hall.
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Good sentiment, Amy.
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And Berkman with a sacrifice fly to deep center to make it 2-0 NL in the top of the 6th.
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Is it my setup or is the sound from the field tinny and distorted?
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Tried to pay attention for ya, but Joe Buck never shut up long enough for me to tell...
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POTN material, Oregonian.
http://www.shutuptimmccarver.com/
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And Berkman with a sacrifice fly to deep center to make it 2-0 NL in the top of the 6th.
I fell asleep and missed it. Joe Buck is so fucking boring.
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Man, that ball got out in a hurry.
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Stros helping to make a difference. Tejada's aggressive baserunning gets the NL the lead back (SB 2nd, 3rd on overthrow, tag on SF)
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Miggy with the hit, steal and advance to third on the botched throw, and the run on the sac fly. Bottom 8: NL 3 - AL 2
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And in comes the absolutely unhittable Brian Wilson.
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http://www.shutuptimmccarver.com/
Hadn't seen that one, nice!
POTN material, OregonianTexan living in Oregon.
FIFY
By the way, POTN?
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By the way, POTN?
Night, I suspect.
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Well, crap on Wagner.
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Well, crap on Wagner.
And yet somehow not at all unexpected.
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Now we're in the position of pulling for a Cub, a Brewer, and a Cardinal.
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We are pulling for the NL
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Now we're in the position of pulling for a Cub, a Brewer, and a Cardinal and being thankful that Pujols is not in the American League and thus won't have an opportunity to 'ruin' a Phillie closer.
Just sayin...
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Night, I suspect.
Yeah.
I love this Polski commercial for Holiday Inn Express. "He once had a heart attack and when he came to sold the paramedics 12 sets of steak knives."
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We are pulling for the NL
Note that Hurdle held back a starter (Dempster) for the late innings; who does Francona have left?
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Miggy 2-2... SWEET!
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How did he get that much wood on that a ball sinking like that?
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Miggy 2-2... SWEET!
Hope it carries over for the Astros.
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Yeah.
I love this Polski commercial for Holiday Inn Express. "He once had a heart attack and when he came to sold the paramedics 12 sets of steak knives."
I like the "Mrs Ripken Jr." one.
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How did he get that much wood on that a ball sinking like that?
steroids
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GIDP followed by an 2 E's... Gotta be kidding me!!!
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That' some uggla baseball.
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Uggla getting the Gas Can off the hook for NL LVP.
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That' some uggla baseball.
You write headlines for the New York Post or something?
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You write headlines for the New York Post or something?
Cartoons for The New Yorker.
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Uggla 1-3...in plays at 2B this inning.
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What a play by Miggy!
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Miggy working on MVP. Wow!
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Motherfucker. I did not expect that. What a play by Miggy.
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holy shit miggy, what a play
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Miggy!
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Cook's the MVP in my book, and Miggie just became a God. A GOD, I tell ya'!
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Uggla 1-3...in plays at 2B this inning.
His inability to get the ball out of his glove prevented the double play.
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Oh, and on another topic, if I wasn't so enamoured with my current avatar I would change it to be the Most Interesting Man in the World. I would change the sig. to read "I don't often drink beer. But when I do...I drink a lot."
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His inability to get the ball out of his glove prevented the double play.
1/2 for 3?
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Yep, Miggy's no longer shortstop material.
Hell of a play there!!!
Nice job of pitching out of trouble there by Cook as well!
ETA: Cook.
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Advantage NL? Rivera's gone and Lidge is still up Hurdle's sleeve.
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Yep, Miggy's no longer shortstop material.
Hell of a play there!!!
Nice job of pitching out of trouble there by Dempster Cook as well!
FIFY
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Advantage NL? Rivera's gone and Lidge is still up Hurdle's sleeve.
Need to score first.
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Oh, and on another topic, if I wasn't so enamoured with my current avatar I would change it to be the Most Interesting Man in the World. I would change the sig. to read "I don't often drink beer. But when I do...I drink a lot."
Narrator: The Most Interesting Man in the World talks about roller-blading.
(pause)
TMIMITW: No.
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Advantage NL? Rivera's gone and Lidge is still up Hurdle's sleeve.
Man, Wright just whiffed on a hanger.
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AL showing Uggla's glove some respect: hitting it over him, rather than through him.
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holy shit miggy, what a play
Miggy, man. Ka-pow!
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You have dial-up or something?
Just kiddin'.
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Miggy sells one to the Ump.
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FIFY
All Cubbies look the same to me.
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I'm trying my hardest to let tim McCarver wash over me like the wave of stink that hits you when they open the plane door in Mexico City. Just like Mexico City, the stink is hard to ignore.
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McClouth!!! Damn!
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Nice throw-tag there guys.
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what a great throw from mclouth..
on a side note, did anyone hear that guy in the crowd yell "HIT IT TO UGGLA!!"
i got a good laugh out of that
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Second play this inning called on the ball beating the runner, not on the tag.
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You have dial-up or something?
Just kiddin'.
Naw, just a little late on the draw. :P
And... hot damn, Russell Martin!
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Miggy sells one to the Ump.
And how big is that call now? Sheesh.
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I'm trying my hardest to let tim McCarver wash over me like the wave of stink that hits you when they open the plane door in Mexico City. Just like Mexico City, the stink is hard to ignore.
I would avoid McCarver washing over me at all.
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on a side note, did anyone hear that guy in the crowd yell "HIT IT TO UGGLA!!"
"They never forget ya'."
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Second play this inning called on the ball beating the runner, not on the tag.
Nothing new here.
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And how big is that call now? Sheesh.
The NL "D" (Uggla excepted) has been putting on a show these last few innings. When's Miggy due up again?
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The NL is flashing some leather baby
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After Ludwick, McLouth on deck.
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Sep. at Birth: Soria and Casey Affleck.
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SAAAAAAAAAAAFE!
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way to go
mc
NL!
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McLouth with the arm and the hustle!
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OK. Let's get Miggy with it!
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Walkin' Miggy... chickenshits.
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IBB for Miggy, Uggla gets a chance to redeem himself.
ETA: or NOT.
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Walkin' Miggy... chickenshits.
Booooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Uggla at the plate with the bases loaded? To borrow from Jimmy D who borrowed it from Hollywood and Broadway...."Who WRITES this stuff?"
{EDIT: Whoever does needs to do a rewrite. That was WAY too quick}
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Booooooooooooooooooooooooo
Yes, my ten-year-old loudly agreed with you.
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And a half-hearted swingin' strikeout for Uggla... ugg.
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If this doesn't end soon, Selig's going to get hoisted on his own petard...by his balls.
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Fun game to watch.
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If this doesn't end soon, Selig's going to get hoisted on his own petard...by his balls.
I envision a Comiskey Death To Disco Night reset at Yankee Stadium.
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Good afternoon, good evening and goodnight!
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Oh for fuck's sake, Gonzales chased that.
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I hope to see Lidge K the side.
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why is cook still in the game right now
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Wtf no Lidge?
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why is cook still in the game right now
Selig's order.
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Would've been typical if Fox had missed the walk-off dinger because they were still at commercial.
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Geez, Uggla almost botches another one.
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And Cook is still in the game.
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All that's left for Uggla is a Knoblauchian throw to 1st.
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Starting to wonder if a new verb is being considered.
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Wtf no Lidge?
Gonna need someone to close it. There are All Stars.
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Is there a reason not to walk Longoria here and set up the DP?
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I guess that's a good reason.
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Is there a reason not to walk Longoria here and set up the DP?
Saving it for Morneau.
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Is there a reason not to walk Longoria here and set up the DP?
Doing it now with 2 out. Eh? Oh.
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why is cook still in the game right now
I'm starting to see why.
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Hard to imagine the NL can cheat death again.
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Starting to wonder if a new verb is being considered.
Or perhaps a change in biological nomenclature (http://www.ca.uky.edu/agcollege/4H/projects_events/core/animalscience/goat/images/goat.jpg).
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OK, what was the point of walking Morneau if you're not going to bother holding him there?
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YEsssss
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Hard to imagine the NL can cheat death again.
Yet they do.
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Well, however it turns out, this has been a hugely entertaining game.
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Or perhaps a change in biological nomenclature (http://www.ca.uky.edu/agcollege/4H/projects_events/core/animalscience/goat/images/goat.jpg).
Billy Uggla?
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OK, what was the point of walking Morneau if you're not going to bother holding him there?
Setting up the righty-righty matchup, I imagine.
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Setting up the righty-righty matchup, I imagine.
...for the easy grounder. I know, don't quit my day job.
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Is the NL 0-for-RISP tonight? Somebody is going to have to do something.
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Think they're bluffing bunt?
{Edit: that's some shitty bluffing}
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What a dreadful bunt.
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Think they're bluffing bunt?
Should have.
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Wright missed the sign, terrible jump.
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Think they're bluffing bunt?
Evidently were bluffing a sacrifice bunt...
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If Kazmir comes in, how can Francona put him on a strict pitch count? He will have no replacement pitchers and he's been out of position players for a while. Kazmir has to finish the game or Selig has to call another tie.
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If Kazmir comes in, how can Francona put him on a strict pitch count? He will have no replacement pitchers and he's been out of position players for a while. Kazmir has to finish the game or Selig has to call another tie.
Or use the DH to pitch.
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I wish that had been El Caballo batting instead of Hart.
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Think they're bluffing bunt?
Evidently were bluffing a sacrifice bunt...
I'm a first rate set-up man.
"Of course, it's ten minutes to Wopner."
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Or use the DH to pitch.
Memo to Fox: If this happens, please please please show me close-ups of Selig.
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I wish that had been El Caballo batting instead of Hart.
No kidding. Thanks for stuffing the ballot box for your creampuff, Milwaukee....relatively speaking. I HART NEW YORK? Geez.
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Jesus Christ.
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another one for uggla
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Geez, Uggla's gotta be hating life right now (although that one was a pretty rough hop).
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Bad hop my arse. Comfortably an error.
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That hop wasn't that bad was it?
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He opted to wait on it and play it safe. Didn't work out. Loretta or Bidge would have had it.
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That hop wasn't that bad was it?
Good or bad, it was a long way away from him. Plenty of time to adjust. Shitty footwork had him in a bad position to make such adjustment.
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Yeah definitely an error.
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Nice Marmol.
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Good or bad, it was a long way away from him. Plenty of time to adjust. Shitty footwork had him in a bad position to make such adjustment.
Yep, I would expect my 14 yr old to adjust to one like that, much less a Major Leaguer.
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Hey Joe! Enjoying this nice quick game?
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I really thought the error on Uggla would result in the game-winning run. I hope they play another nine innings just to fuck with Bud.
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Miggy gets to bat this inning.
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Crap. Just short.
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I hope they play another nine innings just to fuck with Bud.
Oh yeah.
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J.D. freakin' Drew, jeez.
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At this moment, who hates Billy Wags more? Selig, Joe Buck or the balance of the NL roster and managers?
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Bet they're watching more intently in Baltimore at this particular moment.
{EDIT} That was too quick. Didn't even allow for the gratuitous drama to set in...and stuff.
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Shit. Shoulda played the Miggy music.
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Oy, 3 outs... 1am... someone send some Monster into the dugout.
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Note to AL hitters: please keep pulling the ball.
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"Tejada has just played a terrific second half of the ballgame." No freakin' kiddin'.
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Cmon Lidge!
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Cmon Lidge!
Webb. Need a run before Lidge gets the call.
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No I meant "Bring him in the game, Hurdle."
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"Tejada has just played a terrific second half of the ballgame." No freakin' kiddin'.
Few broadcasters do a better job of grasping the low hanging fruit, the obvious, if you will, than do Buck and McCarver.
"This just in. Water is wet."
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No I meant "Bring him in the game, Hurdle."
Not yet. The AL is going to run into pitching trouble any moment now.
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Why is my local Fox feed not working?
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Bud has to be seriously hating his life right now...
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"Passion was invented in America."
Quoi?
- France.
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Bud has to be seriously hating his life right now...
Yeah, but how much worse can this really make things for a guy who looks like a cross-breed of Martin Landau and Stephen Hawking?
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Uggla: 0-4, 3 strikeouts, 3 errors. Living an All Star nightmare...
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Why is my local Fox feed not working?
If it's just the audio, I'd say it's luck.
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Uggla: 0-4, 3 strikeouts, 3 errors. Living an All Star nightmare...
You forgot the rally-killing GIDP.
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Looked like Morneau did a nice job of going down to get that one.
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what a catch!
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Ex-Astro closers really getting it done tonight.
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You forgot the rally-killing GIDP.
Uggla was hoping you would...
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What a game.
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goddamn you Lidge blowing the game
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What a game.
you said it
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Fuck! Wimpy throw by Hart. Thanks voters.
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Ex-Astro closers really getting it done tonight.
Blown save and a loss between them. 2 runs allowed, 2 outs recorded, 8 hitters faced.
I'd give 'em joint LVP over Uggla.
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Ex-Astro closers really getting it done tonight.
I beg to differ, Lidge, you suck
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And Young with another game winning RBI in an All Star game...
Great game though.
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Fuck! Wimpy throw by Hart. Thanks voters.
Yep, thought that one was for shit!
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So now the NL team gets to play three games at home to the AL's four because of poor play in a meaningless game from players who do not even play for their team.
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So now the NL team gets to play three games at home to the AL's four because of poor play in a meaningless game from players who do not even play for their team.
Well, at least two games at each place.
Thanks, Bud.
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MVP = Drew?
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MVP = Drew?
Miggy
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So now the NL team gets to play three games at home to the AL's four because of poor play in a meaningless game from players who do not even play for their team.
Don't get me started. It's late.
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MVP = Drew?
Looks like it. Score another one for Borass.
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Miggy
I'm presuming that Fox will go with a "winner", and no one contributed more to the AL than Drew and his two-run dinger that doesn't get out of any other ballpark.
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Selig's Depenz must be a capacity by now.
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I'm presuming that Fox will go with a "winner", and no one contributed more to the AL than Drew and his two-run dinger that doesn't get out of any other ballpark.
The only good thing about him getting it is that he is a Red Sox in Yankee Stadium.
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The only good thing about him getting it is that he is a Red Sox in Yankee Stadium.
No one was left in the park to boo him. They cleared out in a hurry...
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Anyone looking forward to the mad dash to the microphones at 610, 790 and 1650 tomorrow to say, "See? Told you so", regarding the unfortunate Lidge? Of course they'll also find a way to somehow make it all Purpura's and/or Wade's fault, if not Drayton's.
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Anyone looking forward to the mad dash to the microphones at 610, 790 and 1650 tomorrow to say, "See? Told you so", regarding the unfortunate Lidge? Of course they'll also find a way to somehow make it all Purpura's and/or Wade's fault, if not Drayton's.
No its just Lidge's
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No its just Lidge's
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID TWAT.
God damnit, you're an idiot.
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SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID TWAT.
God damnit, you're an idiot.
Whatever, he ruined the evening and the game, cracking under pressure like always. Thanks Brad.
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Whatever, he ruined the evening and the game, cracking under pressure like always. Thanks Brad.
Yeah. You're right. That shallow fly ball and wussy throw by Hart was all Lidge's fault.
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Yeah. You're right. That shallow fly ball and wussy throw by Hart was all Lidge's fault.
not to mention the fact his arm was shot from warming up in the pen multiple times before he actually entered the game. i wondered at the time why they didn't pull wagner for lidge before longoria had his at bat that tied the game, considering he was warming up that inning anyways.
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not to mention the fact his arm was shot from warming up in the pen multiple times before he actually entered the game. i wondered at the time why they didn't pull wagner for lidge before longoria had his at bat that tied the game, considering he was warming up that inning anyways.
That was the 8th and they were saving Lidge for the 9th.
If anyone fucked this up, it was Wagner but, as much as I'd like to pile on that asshat, the pitch that Longoria hit was off his shoetops and diving in. Of course, he did allow the previous hitter to get aboard and then ignored him so he could take second by walking there, which allowed him to score on the ground rule double.
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not to mention the fact his arm was shot from warming up in the pen multiple times before he actually entered the game. i wondered at the time why they didn't pull wagner for lidge before longoria had his at bat that tied the game, considering he was warming up that inning anyways.
I thought that was odd also. I fully expected Lidge to face Longoria. Take Wilson out who has retired two batters because you believe in the advantage of a lefty-lefty matchup. OK, but then the next hitter is a righty, and all of a sudden, you abandon that philosophy.
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I can't believe anyone on this board would hang that one on Lidge. Wagner clearly choked that one up in classic Billy wagner style. What a douch. I'd also couldn't help but imagine Carlos Lee driving in the winner every time Corey Hart struck out.
Miggy was awsome.
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I'm sure Wagner threw the perfect pitch to Longoria.
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I'm sure Wagner threw the perfect pitch to Longoria.
Longoria thought so.
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I can't believe anyone on this board would hang that one on Lidge.
My requests to have legs_of_eggs' IP automatically redirect to AD have not been answered.
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My requests to have legs_of_eggs' IP automatically redirect to AD have not been answered.
is it possible to get that idiot banned on general principles?
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is it possible to get that idiot banned on general principles?
No, but quoting his posts should have some sort of penalty...
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28 29 ignores for that ignoramus. Perhaps a cut-off point for banishment?
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28 29 ignores for that ignoramus. Perhaps a cut-off point for banishment?
I was thinking there should be some sort of special SnS wing for that level of stupidity and the hammering it gets that Clarks are routed to upon registration for educational purposes.
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No, but quoting his (legs_of_phyllisdiller's) posts should have some sort of penalty...
And all the people said? "Amen."
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not to mention the fact his arm was shot from warming up in the pen multiple times before he actually entered the game. i wondered at the time why they didn't pull wagner for lidge before longoria had his at bat that tied the game, considering he was warming up that inning anyways.
What do you figure he'd thrown in the pen, 80 or 90 pitches?
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i do not believe in using the ignore button, but i think i am about to make an exception.
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I desperately wanted the game to go to the 16th just to see what Francona was going to do. At some point, they really and truly were going to run out of pitchers, and I wanted to find out what Bud's back-up plan was. Coin flip? Penalty kicks?
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I thought for sure Webb was going to pitch more than one inning. I know he pitched on Sunday, but don't go to the game if you can't play.
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I desperately wanted the game to go to the 16th just to see what Francona was going to do. At some point, they really and truly were going to run out of pitchers, and I wanted to find out what Bud's back-up plan was. Coin flip? Penalty kicks?
Rap-off.
MC Big Papi performing his hit "I Almost Had a Beard For The All Star Game" vs. Corey Hart doing a remix of his 80's smash hit "Boy in a Box". (didn't see that coming, did you?)
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W
28 29 ignores for that ignoramus. Perhaps a cut-off point for banishment?
Why do you people want to fuck with a record? I'm hoping I'm here the day he reaches 50 ignored bys. What a glorious day that will be.
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I can't believe anyone on this board would hang that one on Lidge. Wagner clearly choked that one up in classic Billy wagner style. What a douch. I'd also couldn't help but imagine Carlos Lee driving in the winner every time Corey Hart struck out.
Miggy was awsome.
Miggy carried that team on his shoulders. I'm sure Lance was disappointed to be riding the pine in the late innings but Gonzales represented well.
The one thing I can't get out of my head is that maybe Lidge was instructed to "let it end". This is just wild speculation perhaps fueled by Joe Buck's incessant fellating of the AL and both he and McCarver bemoaning the Kazmir situation. Rather silly when I think about it but the pulling for the AL by the broadcast team was a little too obvious.
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Miggy carried that team on his shoulders. I'm sure Lance was disappointed to be riding the pine in the late innings but Gonzales represented well.
The one thing I can't get out of my head is that maybe Lidge was instructed to "let it end". This is just wild speculation perhaps fueled by Joe Buck's incessant fellating of the AL and both he and McCarver bemoaning the Kazmir situation. Rather silly when I think about it but the pulling for the AL by the broadcast team was a little too obvious.
i did not notice. i had the Worrell button engaged.
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I desperately wanted the game to go to the 16th just to see what Francona was going to do. At some point, they really and truly were going to run out of pitchers, and I wanted to find out what Bud's back-up plan was. Coin flip? Penalty kicks?
JD Drew was interviewed about coming in to pitch.
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i did not notice. i had the Worrell button engaged.
i should have used that button. i don't think they were even paying attention to the game. they were so worried about Kazmir having to pitch., blah blah blah.
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The one thing I can't get out of my head is that maybe Lidge was instructed to "let it end". This is just wild speculation perhaps fueled by Joe Buck's incessant fellating of the AL and both he and McCarver bemoaning the Kazmir situation. Rather silly when I think about it but the pulling for the AL by the broadcast team was a little too obvious.
You're not the first one to think that.
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You're not the first one to think that.
i really thought the AL was going to be the one to give up the game though.
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You're not the first one to think that.
I was pretty sure that the runner was going to be called safe unless Martin tagged him about 3 feet up the baseline.
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Seems there was a lot of talk five or six years ago about trying various modifications to the All-Star lineup to help avoid a repeat of the tie game in Milwaukee. Adding more pitchers to the line-up or having All-Star "Light" pitchers suited up who knew the likelihood of their playing was very low. I don't believe anything ever became of that talk, did it? Instead, they went with the old reliable, "Surely, this won't happen again," approach and nearly got burned.
When I was a kid, there didn't seem to be this soccer mom "EVERYONE HAS TO PLAY" mentality that some managers in this game employ now. I can recall being disappointed that my favorite player or pitcher didn't get into a game. Has that approach evolved in part because of managers' hoping to avoid "snubbing" a player and seeing him come back later in the year all motivated to show him he was wrong? These guys don't think like that, do they? Is that another in a series of media creations?
Now that the extra-inning scenario has happened twice with a couple of near misses on extra innings in between, and the possibility of another tie game loomed greatly, ya' gotta wonder if MLB will feel like it has to do something about the line-ups this time. (Well, you don't HAVE to wonder, but you get the gyst). Asking managers to voluntarily hold back players didn't work. What would?
Requiring the starters play at least 3 innings, pitchers withstanding?
Employing the DH no matter what league is hosting the game? (Blasphemous talk, I know)
Dumping the EVERY TEAM MUST HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE rule? (I know; ain't gonna happen and doesn't really impact this scenario, anyway.)
Most intriguing and enjoyable All-Star Game I've watched since Rose blew through Fosse in extra frames way back when.
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You're not the first one to think that.
Lot of fellas at the Vegas & Reno sportsbooks were probably thinking it, as were their kindred spirits across the land.
http://www.shutuptimmccarver.com/
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i really thought the AL was going to be the one to give up the game though.
Not in Ruth's House.
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Not in Ruth's House.
In STORIED Yankee Stadium. HISTORY in the making... At Yankee Stadium. Its YANKEE Stadium.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is my Tim McCarver impression.
Jesus what a boring windbag.
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In STORIED Yankee Stadium. HISTORY in the making... At Yankee Stadium. Its YANKEE Stadium.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is my Tim McCarver impression.
Jesus what a boring windbag.
I loved it when he was describing how hard it was for a catcher to block Lidge's fastball in the dirt. Except that it was clearly his slider.
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I loved it when he was describing how hard it was for a catcher to block Lidge's fastball in the dirt. Except that it was clearly his slider.
Yeah, that was great.
When Joe Buck corrects you about baseball, you've pretty much hit rock bottom.
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Miggy carried that team on his shoulders. I'm sure Lance was disappointed to be riding the pine in the late innings but Gonzales represented well.
I was en route to my girlfriend's place at the time and listening on the radio, so I missed Lance's long fly out. How close did it come to reaching the seats?
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I was en route to my girlfriend's place at the time and listening on the radio, so I missed Lance's long fly out. How close did it come to reaching the seats?
not anywhere near the wall.
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not anywhere near the wall.
Didn't even make the track.
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When I was a kid, there didn't seem to be this soccer mom "EVERYONE HAS TO PLAY" mentality that some managers in this game employ now.
That's the entirety of the problem. If the players and managers are instructed that the game is a proper game (because, you know, it counts), then if a manager runs out of players it's his fault. Right now, Selig wants it every which way from Sunday: every player gets in the game to satisfy his home fans, and yet the result has the potential to impact the determination of the WS Champion so he can claim it's not just another bullshit exhibition. All the while the fans get to pick who starts, plus vote in one more "special" kid, and then the manager fills his roster despite having no control over which pitchers will be available and/or not under strict orders from their own teams not to pitch.
I'm not even sure it's possible to do justice to what an enormous clusterfuck this situation is.
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I was en route to my girlfriend's place at the time and listening on the radio, so I missed Lance's long fly out. How close did it come to reaching the seats?
About 80 feet.
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Yeah, that was great.
When Joe Buck corrects you about baseball, you've pretty much hit rock bottom.
I stopped counting the errors from those two morons in about the 3rd inning. Neither one were paying any attention to the game. I wish I had a nickel for each time one of those two said "Carlos Guillen is the last position player available for Terry Francona". They said it right up until Evan Longoria stepped to the plate to PH after Guillen K'd and they didn't miss a beat with "Evan Longoria is the last position player...".
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I liked that Yogi kept calling Joe Buck "Jack".
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He stepped into that, Joe/Jack did, by bringing up the whole, "Almost a Cardinal," thing.
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What do you figure he'd thrown in the pen, 80 or 90 pitches?
probably, which is on clint hurdle. I obviously don't have the exact count.
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That was the 8th and they were saving Lidge for the 9th.
If anyone fucked this up, it was Wagner but, as much as I'd like to pile on that asshat, the pitch that Longoria hit was off his shoetops and diving in. Of course, he did allow the previous hitter to get aboard and then ignored him so he could take second by walking there, which allowed him to score on the ground rule double.
there were two outs in the 8th at the time, the excuse of saving lidge for the 9th is really weak, a 1.1 inning save isn't a big deal.
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joe Sheehan at BP plays the proverbial squirrel to this nut:
When the managers stand up to the players and say, "Congratulations on being an All-Star, but note that you might not play," the game will become more watchable and less problematic, and you won’t need a half-dozen gimmicks. They’ll also spare themselves the agonizing decisions when a game runs very long—a rare event, to be sure—by having more than enough pitchers for any contingency. The players, the starters, have to buy into this as well, being willing to stay in the game longer. It’s impossible to take "This Time it Counts" seriously when the name-brand players are all doing interviews before the late local news comes on.
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there were two outs in the 8th at the time, the excuse of saving lidge for the 9th is really weak, a 1.1 inning save isn't a big deal.
I think the plan was for Billy to retire one batter (lefty on lefty, IIRC), then Lidge do the 9th. Wagner fucked it up by allowing a H, SB and RBIGR2B before retiring the 3rd batter he faced. Oddly enough, for all of Uggla's travails, that's yer ballgame right there.
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I think the plan was for Billy to retire one batter (lefty on lefty, IIRC), then Lidge do the 9th. Wagner fucked it up by allowing a H, SB and RBIGR2B before retiring the 3rd batter he faced. Oddly enough, for all of Uggla's travails, that's yer ballgame right there.
I'm sure it was the plan, but hurdle could have adjusted to the situation as well.
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I'm sure it was the plan, but hurdle could have adjusted to the situation as well.
there was absolutely NO reason to pull Wagner after one hitter. he is a premier closer and does not have inordinate trouble with RH hitters. you are just second-guessing based upon a result.
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We would have won the WS in 2003 if Jimy had known to pull Billy every time he allowed a hit.
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We would have won the WS in 2003 if Jimy had known to pull Billy every time he allowed a hit.
that is why EVERY game i pitched was a one-hitter. never had a no-hitter, though.
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I stopped counting the errors from those two morons in about the 3rd inning. Neither one were paying any attention to the game. I wish I had a nickel for each time one of those two said "Carlos Guillen is the last position player available for Terry Francona". They said it right up until Evan Longoria stepped to the plate to PH after Guillen K'd and they didn't miss a beat with "Evan Longoria is the last position player...".
They even showed a shot of Francona's lineup card which clearly showed Longoria as available while they were blathering on about Guillen being the last position player.
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Anytime you pull someone who is succeeding, just to roll the dice again, you'll get second guessed.
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We would have won the WS in 2003 if Jimy had known to pull Billy every time he allowed a hit.
Would've been won before that time if Dierk had known not to use Billy in any important game ever.
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About 80 feet.
Damn. The radio guys made it sound like it was a shot that just missed getting out.
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Damn. The radio guys made it sound like it was a shot that just missed getting out.
Well, it wasn't really 80 feet short, but there was never a question about whether it was going to stay in the yard. It was probably 10 or 15 feet short of warning track.
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It was deep enough for Sid Bream to have scored from third, had he been there; it looked better off the bat than it turned out.
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Nowhere close to out
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there was absolutely NO reason to pull Wagner after one hitter. he is a premier closer and does not have inordinate trouble with RH hitters. you are just second-guessing based upon a result.
My wording was poor when I said he could have adjusted to the situation as it made it sound like I think he goofed by leaving wagner in the game, which isn't the case . While I expected and wanted lidge to go in, it wasn't a bad baseball decision to leave wagner in either. However, considering he had pulled wilson to get a lefty on lefty matchup and a righty was up now, with lidge warmed up, it seemed logical to me at least that he would go to him for a 1 1/3 inning save.
That said, the point I was trying to make was he had the option of deviating from that plan with the situation presented at the time. If hurdle felt lidge gave him the best chance to get longoria out and didn't use him because he wanted to save him for the 9th, that excuse doesn't pass the mustard from a manager. And it seemed he had lidge warming up awfully early to be used just in the bottom of the 9th.
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In STORIED Yankee Stadium. HISTORY in the making... At Yankee Stadium. Its YANKEE Stadium.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is my Tim McCarver impression.
Jesus what a boring windbag.
You want to know how good Bobby Murcer was as a broadcaster? He was so good that when paired with McCarver you really didn't usually notice what a fuckwit McCarver is.