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General Discussion => Talk Zone => Topic started by: pravata on January 22, 2008, 11:17:49 am
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Albert Pujols, angry his name was incorrectly linked to the Mitchell Report on steroids...asked Cardinals media relations director Brian Bartow to make a reporter and cameraman from St. Louis Fox affiliate KTVI leave the room where Pujols' news conference was taking place on the final day of the Cardinals' winter warmup.
He also asks, and answers the question on everyone's mind,
"How much better can I get? Only God knows."
Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AnAtcWHr5MvkVEGfyLF128QRvLYF?slug=ap-cardinals-pujols&prov=ap&type=lgns)
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He also asks, and answers the question on everyone's mind,
"How much better can I get? Only God knows."
He could start by getting back to being as good as he was in 2003, although that will be tough at his (actual) age.
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"How much better can I get? Only God knows."
But Albert, don't forget, you are God... So pray tell!
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He is being a baby that's for sure
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He's gonna have to ban more than those two. That list was spread nation wide the morning before the Mitchel Report came out.
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He is being a baby that's for sure
Nothing new there. He's slowly but surely moving to the top of the a-hole pile as the likes of Bonds and Clemens take themselves out of the game.
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Meh. Taking a shot at Fox News, no matter how juvenile, doesn't move anyone down my list.
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Meh. Taking a shot at Fox News, no matter how juvenile, doesn't move anyone down my list.
Not really Fox News. A reporter for the local affiliate which in my experience could be any network affiliate. I'm going with Limey on this one.
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What did he have an age scandal that I missed?
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What did he have an age scandal that I missed?
He's just peeved that everybody continues to whisper that he's older than his listed age. He's a prima donna, plain and simple.
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If the Fox News affiliate jumped the gun and said that Pujols was in the report -- and if they didn't have a damn good source for believing he was in the report -- then I think that Pujols has every right to say fuck off. If Fox is just speculating about things then they aren't reporters.
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What did he have an age scandal that I missed?
Although he grew up in the US - which Pooholes' apologists use as a validation of his age - he didn't move here until the early 90s while claiming to have been born in 1980. He is the "youngest" of (IIRC) 5 brothers, none of whom exhibited anywhere near the beisbol talent of Albert. How hard would it have been to change identities with a younger brother on the way over from DR, or even before he left?
He shredded high school pitchers (hitting .660 in his senior year) and dominated in his one year of college. He passed on STL's original offer of a $10k bonus in 1999 but signed on in 2000 for $70k. He exploded through the STL farm system, making the big club within that first year, and he hit .367 with 2 dingers in 7 games in the majors. He was league MVP in 2001 and had a career year in 2003, allegedly aged 21 and 23 respectively.
Either it's steroids or he's older than he says. Or both. I like to think both.
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If Fox is just speculating about things then they aren't reporters.
This describes the entire roster of Fox News.
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Albert has benefited from big FOX's love for him with positive press. Some of it was pretty than necessary and helped make him the star he is. Yes his performances have been good but what has really endeared him to the nominal baseball fan is the features that talk about him marrying the lady with the dev. delayed child.
He needs to realize that it's not just the media's job to give you positive press. He has the right to say to a reporter, you can't come to my press conference but it is hurting his image more than it is hurting the reporter. It also risk his relationship with media. Bad move IMO
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A classic example of how shitty reporting can exacerbate paranoia in an ego that has been heightened and supported by sycophants and parasites.
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This describes the entire roster of Fox News.
There are reporters and then there are "talking heads." If a talking head speculates about something, I am not troubled because I understand that we are listening to someone's hopefully well-thought-out opinion. If someone reports something as a fact, however, I expect them to have a basis. Aren't reporters supposed to have two sources and not just one? Or is that just something I remember from "All the President's Men?"
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A classic example of how shitty reporting can exacerbate paranoia in an ego that has been heightened and supported by sycophants and parasites.
Funny thing is, he's dicking with the only group that can do it back: sports writers. They hold the keys to seasonal awards and ultimately the HoF. He's going to get picked for All Star teams by the coach and he's going to make his money regardless of fan sentiment.
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There are reporters and then there are "talking heads." If a talking head speculates about something, I am not troubled because I understand that we are listening to someone's hopefully well-thought-out opinion. If someone reports something as a fact, however, I expect them to have a basis. Aren't reporters supposed to have two sources and not just one? Or is that just something I remember from "All the President's Men?"
Haven't you been paying attention to David Simon? There is no such thing as "reporting" or "journalism" anymore.
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There are reporters and then there are "talking heads." If a talking head speculates about something, I am not troubled because I understand that we are listening to someone's hopefully well-thought-out opinion. If someone reports something as a fact, however, I expect them to have a basis. Aren't reporters supposed to have two sources and not just one? Or is that just something I remember from "All the President's Men?"
It's just a pet peeve of mine. Most "reporting" these days is actually punditry, and Fox is just the most egregious offender. They even say "We report! You decide!" in their promos, while even their broadcast of record - Brit Hume - is punditry.
There's nothing wrong with punditry, unless you try to pass it off as reporting...
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It's just a pet peeve of mine. Most "reporting" these days is actually punditry, and Fox is just the most egregious offender. They even say "We report! You decide!" in their promos, while even their broadcast of record - Brit Hume - is punditry.
There's nothing wrong with punditry, unless you try to pass it off as reporting...
This makes me laugh. I don't care about Fox or any of them, but Hume isn't anywhere in the same league as the Olbermans of the world. Why stop with him or with Fox?
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This makes me laugh. I don't care about Fox or any of them, but Hume isn't anywhere in the same league as the Olbermans of the world. Why stop with him or with Fox?
I said Fox are the most egregious offenders. I wasn't limiting my peeve to just them, there's simply not enough bandwidth to go down the list.
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Although he grew up in the US - which Pooholes' apologists use as a validation of his age - he didn't move here until the early 90s while claiming to have been born in 1980. He is the "youngest" of (IIRC) 5 brothers, none of whom exhibited anywhere near the beisbol talent of Albert. How hard would it have been to change identities with a younger brother on the way over from DR, or even before he left?
He shredded high school pitchers (hitting .660 in his senior year) and dominated in his one year of college. He passed on STL's original offer of a $10k bonus in 1999 but signed on in 2000 for $70k. He exploded through the STL farm system, making the big club within that first year, and he hit .367 with 2 dingers in 7 games in the majors. He was league MVP in 2001 and had a career year in 2003, allegedly aged 21 and 23 respectively.
Either it's steroids or he's older than he says. Or both. I like to think both.
why cant it just be talent?
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why cant it just be talent?
It could be, in fact he's clearly talented. However, he also clearly played older than his years, and is now sporting the full spam due to hair loss (not choice). If it walks like an older duck and quacks like an older duck...
Bottom line is that it only impacts the Jakes, who may have been misrepresented in numerous contract negotiations with the guy. Otherwise, he hits what he hits and is as old as he is.
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A classic example of how shitty reporting can exacerbate paranoia in an ego that has been heightened and supported by sycophants and parasites.
What he said!
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It could be, in fact he's clearly talented. However, he also clearly played older than his years, and is now sporting the full spam due to hair loss (not choice). If it walks like an older duck and quacks like an older duck...
Bottom line is that it only impacts the Jakes, who may have been misrepresented in numerous contract negotiations with the guy. Otherwise, he hits what he hits and is as old as he is.
I know people 20 years old who are losing their, thats not good enough evidence, also does his age really matter? All that matters is the consistently great numbers he puts up each and every year. I respect Albert Pujols greatly.
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I know people 20 years old who are losing their, thats not good enough evidence, also does his age really matter? All that matters is the consistently great numbers he puts up each and every year. I respect Albert Pujols greatly.
Respect for one's elders is a sign of a good upbringing.
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I know people 20 years old who are losing their, thats not good enough evidence, also does his age really matter? All that matters is the consistently great numbers he puts up each and every year. I respect Albert Pujols greatly.
I think Albert is a damn fine hitter. But being a damn fine hitter doesn't garner any respect other than that which a damn fine hitter gets. There's something fishy about that dude. He seems a bit phony, like he's hiding something. That being said, I admire and really appreciate his work with Special Olympics though his Pujols Family Foundation. But I don't know him and there is that fishy smell. And people lead dual lives, good people do bad things and vice versa. His singling out the StL Fox affiliate, shows him to be; one who doesn't easily forgive and moves on, one who holds a grudge, and one who demands tribute. A paradox at the least.
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I respect Albert Pujols greatly.
What has he done to garner your respect, hit well? You dole it out rather freely, eh?
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What has he done to garner your respect, hit well? You dole it out rather freely, eh?
When he hits one really well, he acts like a douche.
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When he hits one really well, he acts like a douche.
Bag or nozzle?
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The case with most of the people using performance enhancers is that they have a short string of break out seasons (3-4) Pujols has been that good ever since he became a professional. I'd be pissed off to to have my name put into something that would tarnish all the achievements I've done too. I don't blame Pujols for defending himself, hell, you'd be saying the same thing if he didn't say anything about his name being in there. At least hes not on 60 minutes liking his lips and looking nervous as hell like Roger.
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The case with most of the people using performance enhancers is that they have a short string of break out seasons (3-4) Pujols has been that good ever since he became a professional. I'd be pissed off to to have my name put into something that would tarnish all the achievements I've done too. I don't blame Pujols for defending himself, hell, you'd be saying the same thing if he didn't say anything about his name being in there. At least hes not on 60 minutes liking his lips and looking nervous as hell like Roger.
Penetrating thoughts. But, liking his lips or not, I believe the thrust of the argument here is that he is older than he says he is.
Just thought I'd stick that in there.
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Bag or nozzle?
Yes.
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The case with most of the people using performance enhancers is that they have a short string of break out seasons (3-4) Pujols has been that good ever since he became a professional. I'd be pissed off to to have my name put into something that would tarnish all the achievements I've done too. I don't blame Pujols for defending himself, hell, you'd be saying the same thing if he didn't say anything about his name being in there. At least hes not on 60 minutes liking his lips and looking nervous as hell like Roger.
Can you say double standard? DQ has certainly gamed the Astros, but he, too, "has been that good ever since he became a professional" and he, too, is "pissed off to to have [his] name put into something that would tarnish all the achievements [he's] done (sic)". You may not like DQ's approach to the matter, and (of course) either of these guys may turn out to be guilty ion the end despite the protestations.
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Can you say double standard? DQ has certainly gamed the Astros, but he, too, "has been that good ever since he became a professional" and he, too, is "pissed off to to have [his] name put into something that would tarnish all the achievements [he's] done (sic)". You may not like DQ's approach to the matter, and (of course) either of these guys may turn out to be guilty ion the end despite the protestations.
or on the innocent end
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You may not like DQ's approach to the matter, and (of course) either of these guys may turn out to be guilty ion the end despite the protestations.
I may not like his approach, but I do like his frosted tips.
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or on the innocent end
exactly.