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Title: ...But would the Astros want him back?
Post by: jasonact on December 16, 2007, 01:15:34 am
Ken Davidoff of Newsday seems to say that Clemens might return in 2008 out of spite, and that Houston could be a logical place to land. Definitely rumor that may or may hold water, but I don't think he would be a good idea even without the steroid accusation.

Link (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-sproger1215,0,3405607.story)
Title: Re: ...But would the Astros want him back?
Post by: Froback on December 16, 2007, 01:17:35 am
Cabrera and all.

http://www.orangewhoopass.com/forums/index.php?topic=104568.msg172739#msg172739
Title: Re: ...But would the Astros want him back?
Post by: jasonact on December 16, 2007, 01:35:23 am
Cabrera and all.

http://www.orangewhoopass.com/forums/index.php?topic=104568.msg172739#msg172739

Dammit! I was never going to find it in that long-ass thread, but I thought it might be in there somewhere, but it was hijacked before that conversation took off.

All right, so whadya think? Is DQ in Houston a good thing in 2008? I say no.

GO!
Title: Re: ...But would the Astros want him back?
Post by: toddthebod on December 16, 2007, 02:58:18 pm
At the right price, I think it's hard to say that he isn't a better option than Sampson.  And while he comes with a lot of baggage, I think that he'll still put a lot of fannies in the seats.  I think that I'd hold my nose a little if the Astros went in this direction, but as others have said in the "would you root for Tejada" thread, at the end I'm a fan of the uniform and not the player.
Title: Re: ...But would the Astros want him back?
Post by: Dowell on December 16, 2007, 03:08:45 pm
I saw that Newsday article as well.

I think that Clemens pitches next year. His ego is such that he will have to redeem himself--at least in his eyes--and go out in far better fashion than that truncated playoff game for the Yankees.

I think he'll probably pitch again for the Yankees, though, and not for us. Having said that, I don't think that the Grocer would think twice about bringing him back to Houston.
Title: Re: ...But would the Astros want him back?
Post by: Curly on December 16, 2007, 03:57:54 pm
Sure, let him play, must start with the team at the beginning of the year, get his wins up front, if he fades out, well they we've had time to figure out who can step in.
Title: Re: ...But would the Astros want him back?
Post by: toddthebod on December 16, 2007, 10:36:20 pm
I saw that Newsday article as well.

I think that Clemens pitches next year. His ego is such that he will have to redeem himself--at least in his eyes--and go out in far better fashion than that truncated playoff game for the Yankees.

I think he'll probably pitch again for the Yankees, though, and not for us. Having said that, I don't think that the Grocer would think twice about bringing him back to Houston.

I think that the last thing the Yankees will do is bring Clemens back.  First, they have 6 starting pitchers already:  Pettitte, Wang, Joba, Hughes, Kennedy and Mussina.  Second, they don't need the headache of bringing back Clemens right now.  It will be a neverending circus in the locker room if Clemens has to deal with the ridiculous amount of NY media on a nighly basis.
Title: Re: ...But would the Astros want him back?
Post by: otterjb on December 16, 2007, 11:36:45 pm
at the end I'm a fan of the uniform and not the player.

Exactly. All of this roster movement is exciting. Stagnating through mediocrity with what was left of the '07 squad is what would've sucked like quiet desperation. Or something.

Having said that. Fuck Clemens.
Title: Re: ...But would the Astros want him back?
Post by: Dobro on December 16, 2007, 11:44:30 pm
Having said that. Fuck Clemens.

The 2008 Astros rotation will need whatever Clemens has left.
Title: Re: ...But would the Astros want him back?
Post by: otterjb on December 17, 2007, 12:16:02 am
The 2008 Astros rotation will need whatever Clemens has left.

2-5 is weak, if we're honest. This offseason has been the bizzaro ride through Astroland. Clemens signing a 1-year deal in February would top it off, big time.

Are they testing in '08?
Title: Re: ...But would the Astros want him back?
Post by: Arky Vaughan on December 17, 2007, 05:00:14 pm
I think that the last thing the Yankees will do is bring Clemens back.  First, they have 6 starting pitchers already:  Pettitte, Wang, Joba, Hughes, Kennedy and Mussina.  Second, they don't need the headache of bringing back Clemens right now.  It will be a neverending circus in the locker room if Clemens has to deal with the ridiculous amount of NY media on a nighly basis.

Wasn't half the Yankees' roster in the report? Seems like Clemens doesn't stand out as much there.