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General Discussion => Talk Zone => Topic started by: toddthebod on December 03, 2007, 02:02:45 pm
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"Meanwhile, the Twins also are discussing trades involving closer Joe Nathan, with the Astros being one possible suitor."
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7521692?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49
From the same article:
"The Rockies are among the clubs interested in Astros second baseman Chris Burke, but fear that the Astros won't deal with them after getting burned in the Jason Jennings trade last off-season."
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From the same article:
"The Rockies are among the clubs interested in Astros second baseman Chris Burke, but fear that the Astros won't deal with them after getting burned in the Jason Jennings trade last off-season."
shit. perfect revenge.
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On the surface, you wouldn't think we would have much to offer for Nathan but I believe 08 is the last year of his current deal. Maybe we can make them forget about Melky or Ellsbury in a Santana deal and offer em Burke as their replacement for Hunter in CF...
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"Meanwhile, the Twins also are discussing trades involving closer Joe Nathan, with the Astros being one possible suitor."
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7521692?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49
Has anyone heard what the Twins are wanting for Nathan?
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I heard a clip of Wade on the radio at lunch today and he said that he has talked to Burke's agent and told him they would trade him to a club where he would have an opportunity for more playing time if a suitable deal could be reached.
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Has anyone heard what the Twins are wanting for Nathan?
Haven't heard but based on what they are trying to get for Santana (4 prospects), you would think they are at least starting the conversation with Patton for one year of Nathan. Not seen enough of Patton to know about him but Nathan is flithy good to my untrained eyes.
Is Patton more or less valuable than Hirsh was last year to the Astros?
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Haven't heard but based on what they are trying to get for Santana (4 prospects), you would think they are at least starting the conversation with Patton for one year of Nathan. Not seen enough of Patton to know about him but Nathan is flithy good to my untrained eyes.
Is Patton more or less valuable than Hirsh was last year to the Astros?
Patton has more value because he's a lefty.
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Maybe we can make them forget about Melky or Ellsbury in a Santana deal and offer em Burke as their replacement for Hunter in CF...
There is not enough rohypnol in the world to pull that off.
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Has anyone heard what the Twins are wanting for Nathan?
My understanding is that the Twins are ready to replace Nathan with an internal solution: Pat Neshek. So having to give them someone like Qualls may not be necessary, but then again, if they want a solid 8th inning guy, I can't see how they won't ask for Chad. Add Chris Burke to replace the now departed Barrett (to the Rays) and you have the makings of a deal. One more minor league arm (Estrada? Guiterrez? Not Paulino, Guervacio?) would probably do it.
But that is a three for one deal for a one year rental (albeit a cheap one year rental of 6 million dollars). In the open market, Nathan is going to be worth more than Cordero so I doubt Houston will want to pay him that much and will let him walk after 2008. You have to believe that if Milwaukee was willing to pay Cordero 10 million per year and give him four years to boot, then they could make a deal for Nathan easily with their stable of young arms and good prospects. But what is Minnesota looking for? Qualls/Burke are major league ready and Guervacio is a lower minor league prospect. Surely Milwaukee can beat that, can't they?
If the Astros traded Qualls, rest assured they've effectively got rid of Lidge/Wheeler/Qualls in less than one year's span. That is three quality arms in the bullpen that will be hard to replace. Albers to the pen? I think that would open up for him, as well as giving Sarfate, Paulino and perhaps Guitterrez a clear shot at a pen job next season (Sprinkled in amongst the veteran arms of Brocail, Geary and Villareal). BTW - Oscar Villareal last I heard is having a damn good winter league stint in Mexico and one scout said he looks like the old Villareal that pitched for the Diamondbacks. That would be huge if true because that gives him the open shot at a #8 inning setup man.
Now, where is that lefty arm that they need coming from?
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Now, where is that lefty arm that they need coming from?
They have McLemore. But, he's not a classic lefty specialist. More a long reliever who happens to be left-handed.
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They have McLemore. But, he's not a classic lefty specialist. More a long reliever who happens to be left-handed.
They offered Miller arbitration.
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Now, where is that lefty arm that they need coming from?
I believe you already mentioned his name...Affeldt?
btw, I agree his demands seem high but what FA reliever's aren't...
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They offered Miller arbitration.
I was hoping that was just so we could get compensation for him when he signed elsewhere...
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Add Chris Burke to replace the now departed Barrett (to the Rays) and you have the makings of a deal.
did you mean Jason Bartlett? I hadn't heard of any michael barrett to the rays chatter.
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They offered Miller arbitration.
If he accepts they're stuck with him. But, he was offered because his signing with another team will net the Astros a supplemental first round pick.
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did you mean Jason Bartlett? I hadn't heard of any michael barrett to the rays chatter.
Yes, thanks... typing too fast for my own good today.
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BTW, mlbtraderumors reports that the Milwaukee Brewers asked about Chad Cordero of the Nats and they were asked to send back Rickie Weekes if they wanted Cordero. Milwaukee said "NO" as loud as they could.
I wonder if the Brew Crew would be willing to send Weekes in a package deal for Nathan to outbid Houston. This report of dealing with Houston may be just a floated rumor by the Twins to Rosenthal to see if they can get the Brewers to talk "Weekes" with them.
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BTW, mlbtraderumors reports that the Milwaukee Brewers asked about Chad Cordero of the Nats and they were asked to send back Rickie Weekes if they wanted Cordero. Milwaukee said "NO" as loud as they could.
I wonder if the Brew Crew would be willing to send Weekes in a package deal for Nathan to outbid Houston. This report of dealing with Houston may be just a floated rumor by the Twins to Rosenthal to see if they can get the Brewers to talk "Weekes" with them.
that blurb also said that weeks, corey hart, and hardy were untouchable just for a 9th inning type like cordero or nathan.
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that blurb also said that weeks, corey hart, and hardy were untouchable just for a 9th inning type like cordero or nathan.
That's why I wonder if this is a rumor given to Rosenthal by the Twins to get the interest of Milwaukee, who would see yet another division rival grab a closer that they had interest in. First the Reds, now maybe the Astros?
Milwaukee... hello?
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If he accepts they're stuck with him. But, he was offered because his signing with another team will net the Astros a supplemental first round pick.
They have no interest in Miller returning? The Astros could do a lot worse than Miller, IMO.
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They have no interest in Miller returning? The Astros could do a lot worse than Miller, IMO.
just wonder if any of these teams are really interested in burke.. my god if they have read this site or see him play the astros are going to be sunk faster than the titantic
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just wonder if any of these teams are really interested in burke.. my god if they have read this site or see him play the astros are going to be sunk faster than the titantic
He has a highlight reel, that consists of a certain homer against the Braves on a never-ending loop.
"Proven play-off match-winner!" scrolls across the screen.
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rosenthal reports the nats wanted luke scott and chad qualls for chad cordero.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7525396
sorry if cabrera.
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rosenthal reports the nats wanted luke scott and chad qualls for chad cordero.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7525396
sorry if cabrera.
Yuck! How about Chris Burke straight up for Jon Raunch.