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Title: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: MusicMan on August 28, 2007, 01:55:26 pm
Joe Sheehan wrote:
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When McLane elevated Tim Purpura to the GM slot to replace Gerry Hunsicker in 2004, it was a validation of the Astros’ 21st-century approach: draft, develop, and spend money wisely.

So it’s disappointing to see McLane run so far away from the plan that put his team in the World Series for the first time ever. Let down by the Astros’ failure to get back to the postseason in 2006, McLane took an active hand in shaping the 2007 team, and he did so in a way that guaranteed an expensive failure.
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: ybbodeus on August 28, 2007, 02:06:16 pm
How long before the Pinwheel and Punklillo start feeding that line to the masses, ya' figure? 
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Post by: BUWebguy on August 28, 2007, 03:12:02 pm
Wow - Sheehan's usually the farthest off of anyone at BP. If HE can get it...
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Post by: ybbodeus on August 29, 2007, 11:36:30 am
BLAME DRAYTON appears to be in full bloom on the radio shows now.  May I presume the papers are in tow, as well?

Drayton's going to have to do something awfully dramatic--read SPEND HUGE MONEY--to throw the dogs off the scent. 
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: MusicMan on August 29, 2007, 11:39:28 am
BLAME DRAYTON appears to be in full bloom on the radio shows now.  May I presume the papers are in tow, as well?

Drayton's going to have to do something awfully dramatic--read SPEND HUGE MONEY--to throw the dogs off the scent. 

Do not count him out of the A-Rod sweepstakes.
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Post by: Taras Bulba on August 29, 2007, 11:41:31 am
Do not count him out of the A-Rod sweepstakes.

Well, if Drayton is mad, I hope he throws that mad money at pitching.
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on August 29, 2007, 11:42:17 am
Even Neyer gets it: http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=neyer_rob
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: MusicMan on August 29, 2007, 11:42:51 am
Well, if Drayton is mad, I hope he throws that mad money at pitching.

Then you're waiting at least a year to use that money.  The pitching FA's this offseason suck on an OU level.
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: MusicMan on August 29, 2007, 11:45:31 am
And BP continues to go after McLane and Ricciarini:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=507 (no subscription)
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: ybbodeus on August 29, 2007, 12:21:27 pm
Then you're waiting at least a year to use that money.  The pitching FA's this offseason suck on an OU level.

That is a **** (4 star) analogy, sir. 

{Jesus wept}
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Post by: JimR on August 29, 2007, 12:21:28 pm
And BP continues to go after McLane and Ricciarini:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=507 (no subscription)

David Lakey, not Paul. Hun fired him.
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: MusicMan on August 29, 2007, 12:24:01 pm
David Lakey, not Paul. Hun fired him.

Impossible.  Hun alienated good baseball people?

(All sarcasm intended.)
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Post by: Astroholic on August 29, 2007, 12:42:49 pm
Do not count him out of the A-Rod sweepstakes.

Who is A-ROD's agent again?
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Post by: pravata on August 29, 2007, 12:45:59 pm
Who is A-ROD's agent again?

Tough guy Mclane isn't going to get squeamish and refuse "slot money" is he?
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: MusicMan on August 29, 2007, 12:54:14 pm
Who is A-ROD's agent again?

Desperate owners call for desperate agents.
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: Jacksonian on August 29, 2007, 12:57:20 pm
And BP continues to go after McLane and Ricciarini:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=507 (no subscription)

I don't buy the Ricciarini assessment.  IMO it's too early to tell.  There are a number of players drafted in 05 and 06 to watch the next several years.
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: Noe on August 29, 2007, 12:57:38 pm
Well, if Drayton is mad, I hope he throws that mad money at pitching.

Me too.  And judging by this year's FA crop, I hope he decides to go get Santana instead and then throw the MAD money his way.  At this point, anyone not named Pence, Berkman, Lee or Oswalt has got to be fair game to trade away for the Grocer, eh?

Although, as I understand it, the sports talk radio guys would like to explore a swap of Pence for Santana.  They should send some folks to the MMPUS to whisper this into McLane's ear... or meet him at the popcorn stand and drop that nugget of knowledge his way.

Git 'er done!
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: MusicMan on August 29, 2007, 01:00:12 pm
Me too.  And judging by this year's FA crop, I hope he decides to go get Santana instead and then throw the MAD money his way.  At this point, anyone not named Pence, Berkman, Lee or Oswalt has got to be fair game to trade away for the Grocer, eh?

And if you don't trade any of those guys, Patton, Towles, Einertson, and down the list isn't going to get it done.

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Although, as I understand it, the sports talk radio guys would like to explore a swap of Pence for Santana.  They should send some folks to the MMPUS to whisper this into McLane's ear... or meet him at the popcorn stand and drop that nugget of knowledge his way.

What's the saying?  Always trade hitting for pitching?
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Post by: 94CougarGrad on August 29, 2007, 01:01:39 pm

Although, as I understand it, the sports talk radio guys would like to explore a swap of Pence for Santana.  They should send some folks to the MMPUS to whisper this into McLane's ear... or meet him at the popcorn stand and drop that nugget of knowledge his way.

Might be a good use for gleach's tix for tomorrow's day game. Joe Schmoe fan, table for 5, working lunch with Mr. McLane, right this way, sir!
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Post by: JimR on August 29, 2007, 01:13:22 pm
Impossible.  Hun alienated good baseball people?

(All sarcasm intended.)

i have been told by a source close to Lakey that there was blame on both sides.
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: MusicMan on August 29, 2007, 01:15:16 pm
i have been told by a source close to Lakey that there was blame on both sides.

There usually is, isn't there?

Hun was a very, very good GM for the Astros, but the poeple issues seemed like his biggest stumbling block.

We all have our tragic flaws.
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Post by: Andyzipp on August 29, 2007, 01:17:20 pm
There usually is, isn't there?

Hun was a very, very good GM for the Astros, but the poeple issues seemed like his biggest stumbling block.

We all have our tragic flaws.

Just the people he thought had nothing to do with the baseball side of the house.  On the other hand, he got McLane to provide health benefits and retirement plans for the employees of the Astros.
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Post by: Noe on August 29, 2007, 02:52:26 pm
Might be a good use for gleach's tix for tomorrow's day game. Joe Schmoe fan, table for 5, working lunch with Mr. McLane, right this way, sir!

I would be too tempted to boo Mr. McLane.
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: ybbodeus on August 29, 2007, 03:10:56 pm
It won't be long, Noe; the radioheads are already pumping it up.  When you run off all their targets, they don't usually go away quietly.  Can't see them going after Tal, so....it's HIS turn.  Hasn't been like that since well before the whole unfortunate Hispanic Fans episode.

I guess Pam and the marketeers didn't provide him with THAT ticket selling scenario. 
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Post by: 94CougarGrad on August 29, 2007, 03:11:58 pm
"Hispanic Fans episode"? I think I'm off to use the search feature...
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: ybbodeus on August 29, 2007, 03:16:52 pm
You're not gonna like it.  My BLACK HELICOPTER side says that Jesus-Jesus writes what he does as a vengeance of some kind, not just because he's dense or trying to impress his editor with how obstinate he can be. 
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: Noe on August 29, 2007, 03:20:16 pm
It won't be long, Noe; the radioheads are already pumping it up.  When you run off all their targets, they don't usually go away quietly.  Can't see them going after Tal, so....it's HIS turn.  Hasn't been like that since well before the whole unfortunate Hispanic Fans episode.

I guess Pam and the marketeers didn't provide him with THAT ticket selling scenario. 

Oh, I know.  It is now incumbent upon McLane to stop acting like McLane (the deed is done, now stop that!) and now start acting like... oh, I don't know... someone that will hire Joe Giradi and Dan Evans?  If not, then McLane is back to persona au grautin.
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: MusicMan on August 29, 2007, 03:28:33 pm
If not, then McLane is back to persona au grautin.

That was a cheesy comment.
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: BudGirl on August 29, 2007, 03:31:04 pm
That was a cheesy comment.

I thought it was rather sharp.
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Post by: Limey on August 29, 2007, 03:31:58 pm
I thought it was rather sharp.

Definitely bringing the cheddar.
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Post by: ybbodeus on August 29, 2007, 03:35:32 pm
This is all too pungent to be cheddar, though....
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Post by: Limey on August 29, 2007, 03:37:26 pm
This is all too pungent to be cheddar, though....

Organzola?
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Post by: ybbodeus on August 29, 2007, 03:40:13 pm
Organzola?

Will he clear waivers?
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Post by: NeilT on August 29, 2007, 03:49:28 pm
Organzola?

It was very gouda.
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Post by: Duman on August 29, 2007, 03:55:54 pm
It was very gouda.

you guys are grate!
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Post by: BudGirl on August 29, 2007, 03:57:22 pm
you guys are grate!

sometimes they just shred things to nothing.
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Post by: mihoba on August 29, 2007, 03:59:33 pm
sometimes they just shred things to nothing.

Krafty.
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Post by: Ty in Tampa on August 29, 2007, 04:00:21 pm
Whiz kids, all of ya!
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: Duman on August 29, 2007, 04:01:15 pm
Whiz kids, all of ya!

You don't want to PUFF us up now do you?
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Post by: 94CougarGrad on August 29, 2007, 04:01:35 pm
you guys are grate!

The cheese references just bleu me away.
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Post by: ybbodeus on August 29, 2007, 04:01:50 pm
What a string!
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Post by: pravata on August 29, 2007, 04:05:32 pm
What a string!

We're parmigiano reggiano at this kind of thing.  DOH!
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: Ty in Tampa on August 29, 2007, 04:06:08 pm
I don't think we havarti got them all. There are stiltons to come up with.
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: MusicMan on August 29, 2007, 04:09:23 pm
I don't think we havarti got them all. There are stiltons to come up with.

Oh que, so what else is there?
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: Ty in Tampa on August 29, 2007, 04:10:49 pm
Oh que, so what else is there?

You don't want me to have all the fun, do ya!
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Post by: Jacksonian on August 29, 2007, 04:11:14 pm
Oh que, so what else is there?

Is there a baseball team in Muenster?

I don't think you'd want a swiss team.  Too many holes.
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Post by: JimR on August 29, 2007, 04:12:41 pm
my cholesterol has gone up just reading this thread.
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Post by: ybbodeus on August 29, 2007, 04:14:53 pm
This has to be the Saga of the year!
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Post by: 94CougarGrad on August 29, 2007, 04:21:29 pm
Is there a baseball team in Muenster?

I don't think you'd want a swiss team.  Too many holes.

You hear about the new pitching prospect? To find him, they went all the way to Monterey, Jack.
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Post by: ybbodeus on August 29, 2007, 04:23:32 pm
You hear about the new pitching prospect? To find him, they went all the way to Monterey, Jack.

You talkin' about Zamarano?

I hear we scowered the Phillipines and came up with some left-handed curve ball throwing wizard named Tyn Grug.
Title: Re: Hell, even BP is getting it:
Post by: NeilT on August 29, 2007, 04:27:06 pm
You talkin' about Zamarano?

I hear we scowered the Phillipines and came up with some left-handed curve ball throwing wizard named Tyn Grug.

Brie.  He throws soft.
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Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on August 29, 2007, 04:27:25 pm
You talkin' about Zamarano?

Nahh... I think he's from Oaxaca. 
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Post by: Ty in Tampa on August 29, 2007, 04:28:11 pm
You talkin' about Zamarano?

No, that's not him. I camembert his name.
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Post by: Jacksonian on August 29, 2007, 04:29:49 pm
I wish the Astros could trade for Colby Rasmus.
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Post by: Ty in Tampa on August 29, 2007, 04:33:44 pm
I heard Mott's a rella good outfielder.
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Post by: 94CougarGrad on August 29, 2007, 04:35:04 pm
You talkin' about Zamarano?

I hear we scowered the Phillipines and came up with some left-handed curve ball throwing wizard named Tyn Grug.

You know those Filipinos... to them, left-handed curve ball throwing wizards are a cottage industry.
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Post by: Ty in Tampa on August 29, 2007, 04:37:51 pm
You know those Filipinos... to them, left-handed curve ball throwing wizards are a cottage industry.

Yeah, but MLB hitters would edam up for lunch.
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Post by: Astros Fan in SoCal on August 29, 2007, 04:59:09 pm
I heard Mott's a rella good outfielder.

He's the kind of manchego you want on your team.
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Post by: Ty in Tampa on August 29, 2007, 05:05:45 pm
He's the kind of manchego you want on your team.

A lot like that consummate pro, Villone.
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Post by: Noe on August 29, 2007, 05:20:03 pm
A lot like that consummate pro, Villone.

I cheddar to think of Villone on this team again.
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Post by: Limey on August 30, 2007, 09:35:03 am
Couldn't let this thread pass without a link to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkzrOoCFhGw).
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Post by: 94CougarGrad on August 30, 2007, 09:50:28 am
I wont to boi some cheeeeeeeeeese!
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Post by: drew corleone on August 30, 2007, 10:04:35 am
Nice work, all!
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Post by: BUWebguy on August 30, 2007, 10:24:48 am
Boy, that escalated quickly... I mean, that really got out of hand fast.
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Post by: Duman on August 30, 2007, 10:59:52 am
I suggest we now let this thread age a little and see if the flavor changes.
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Post by: MusicMan on August 30, 2007, 11:10:47 am
I suggest we now let this thread age a little and see if the flavor changes.

I was going to pair it with a a whining thread.
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Post by: NeilT on August 30, 2007, 11:16:34 am
I was going to pair it with a a whining thread.

That's very cultured.
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Post by: ybbodeus on August 30, 2007, 01:28:44 pm
I majored in Primitive Cultures.
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Post by: NeilT on August 30, 2007, 01:30:11 pm
I majored in Primitive Cultures.

Like Yoghurt?  Cheese cultures are anything but primitive.
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Post by: ybbodeus on August 30, 2007, 01:40:10 pm
If you were in my shoes, you would be.....ah......?
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Post by: JaneDoe on August 30, 2007, 02:24:48 pm
This thread is definitely a kefir.
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Post by: BatGirl on August 30, 2007, 08:08:24 pm
I majored in Primitive Cultures.

how American of you...
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Post by: 94CougarGrad on August 30, 2007, 10:48:06 pm
This thread is definitely a kefir.

You're not fet-ap with our cheesy puns?
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Post by: utastro on August 30, 2007, 11:07:08 pm
I almost creamed my pants when I read this thread.
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Post by: BossierNaut on August 30, 2007, 11:39:55 pm


Is Berkswell gonna play tomorrow?
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Post by: EasTexAstro on August 31, 2007, 07:55:28 am

Is Berkswell gonna play tomorrow?

OK, Berk-swell is not a good image.