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Title: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: homer on June 14, 2007, 02:32:04 pm
AE went out on a fly ball to left. Lee comes slow, AE glances out to see where he is and Lee I guess takes this as a plea for help. Lee speeds up and has to slide to avoid taking Everett out, but slides into AE's planted foot. AE immediately grabs for the lower leg above the ankle.

Lots of flex above the ankle. No word yet on extent of injury.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: homer on June 14, 2007, 03:14:00 pm
Right leg. Off to the hospital for xrays.

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070614&content_id=2026232&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: homer on June 14, 2007, 03:37:04 pm
Brownie reports fractured right fibula. 4-8 weeks.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: Phil_in_CS on June 14, 2007, 03:49:36 pm
Brownie reports fractured right fibula. 4-8 weeks.

bones heal better than tendons and ligaments. lets hope that's all there is.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on June 14, 2007, 03:53:30 pm
Not that I'm advocating this (so be gentle in any beat downs) but who wants to wager if this injury renews the Lidge for Tejada nonsense? 
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: homer on June 14, 2007, 04:05:43 pm
Not that I'm advocating this (so be gentle in any beat downs) but who wants to wager if this injury renews the Lidge for Tejada nonsense? 

Tejada - .300/.358/.419, 7HR, 35RBI
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: MusicMan on June 14, 2007, 04:23:24 pm
Tejada - .300/.358/.419, 7HR, 35RBI

Guess he needs another B-12 shot.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: homer on June 14, 2007, 04:28:22 pm
Guess he needs another B-12 shot.

He was just Palmeiro's dealer.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: UpTooLate on June 14, 2007, 04:46:10 pm
bones heal better than tendons and ligaments. lets hope that's all there is.


This sucks.  His defensive abilities will be missed.  Let's hope for a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: pravata on June 14, 2007, 04:56:37 pm
"It's actually pretty funny," Burke said. " Carlos Lee on his first day here, told me, 'Catch anything you can. But if I call for it, get out of my way." Link (http://www.orangewhoopass.com/forums/index.php?topic=101696.0)

No longer funny.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: Navin R Johnson on June 14, 2007, 04:59:37 pm
So does Loretta get the bulk of the starts in AE's absence?   
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: MusicMan on June 14, 2007, 05:11:54 pm
So does Loretta get the bulk of the starts in AE's absence?  

Presumably, although I'd like to see Bruntlett out there when Sampson is on the mound.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: MRaup on June 14, 2007, 05:13:16 pm
Presumably, although I'd like to see Bruntlett out there when Sampson is on the mound.

CODY

FUCKING

RANSOM!
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: MusicMan on June 14, 2007, 05:14:17 pm
CODY

FUCKING

RANSOM!

If he can play SS, fine by me.

If I hear one person say "Burke to SS", my head will explode.  Yes, you can safely assume this means I am blocking 790AM from my dial.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: homer on June 14, 2007, 05:16:16 pm
If he can play SS, fine by me.

If I hear one person say "Burke to SS", my head will explode.  Yes, you can safely assume this means I am blocking 790AM from my dial.

If people are still riding Burke's jock, they must not watch the games.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: dirty steve on June 14, 2007, 05:17:31 pm
If he can play SS, fine by me.

If I hear one person say "Burke to SS", my head will explode.  Yes, you can safely assume this means I am blocking 790AM from my dial.
i like pallilo over 610, but does he have to remind me of biggio's avg./ops every single segment?
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: MusicMan on June 14, 2007, 05:18:51 pm
i like pallilo over 610

This is like picking the best-looking woman at Wrigley.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: dirty steve on June 14, 2007, 05:22:40 pm
This is like picking the best-looking woman at Wrigley.
...kind of why the 790 stream is off now. 

man--and then when matt jackson joined rich Lord on the afternoon show, i just stopped even switching over on 790 breaks. 
i prefer pallilo's analytical angle, but he just beats the same thing over and over again.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: Fredia on June 14, 2007, 05:58:47 pm
Brownie reports fractured right fibula. 4-8 weeks.
so probably not reliable but they just said on the news on fox at least 9 weeks.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: dirty steve on June 14, 2007, 06:18:40 pm
so probably not reliable but they just said on the news on fox at least 9 weeks.
mark berman usually scoops everybody else so that might be accurate.  8 wks, 9 wks, either way i dont see everett being able to make a tangible contribution until september.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: homer on June 14, 2007, 08:03:48 pm
Some people are fucking dirtbags.

From Dick's blog:

Quote
I received a stunning number of posts from people who wrote that Adam Everett's injury was a good thing. I didn't post any of them. I can't comprehend someone being happy about a broken leg.

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2007/06/everett_gone_48.html

Un-fucking-believable
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: The Spleen on June 14, 2007, 08:13:09 pm
Lee comes slow...Lee I guess... Lee speeds up... but...


Carlos Lee plays worse defense than FEMA.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: dirty steve on June 14, 2007, 08:39:06 pm
Some people are fucking dirtbags.

From Dick's blog:

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2007/06/everett_gone_48.html

Un-fucking-believable
some guy i sat next to tuesday only wanted to hear about the offensive side of AE's game, and not the baserunners and subsequent scoring chances he eliminates with his glove.  i dont get it.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: The Spleen on June 14, 2007, 08:44:42 pm
some guy i sat next to tuesday only wanted to hear about the offensive side of AE's game, and not the baserunners and subsequent scoring chances he eliminates with his glove.  i dont get it.

So they can have sooo much fun watching what will be pretty much the worst defensive team in the history of ever...
Well, OK, if you're the kind of guy who gets off on watching bones snap... you might even enjoy that kind of shitfest...
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: Fredia on June 14, 2007, 08:54:51 pm
Carlos Lee plays worse defense than FEMA.
well hurricane season is approaching. might need to put him on permant loan
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: pravata on June 14, 2007, 09:13:51 pm
some guy i sat next to tuesday only wanted to hear about the offensive side of AE's game, and not the baserunners and subsequent scoring chances he eliminates with his glove.  i dont get it.

Adam Everett has been the Astros most reliable hitter for well over the past month.  He was hitting significantly over .300.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: JaneDoe on June 14, 2007, 09:19:25 pm
Adam Everett has been the Astros most reliable hitter for well over the past month.  He was hitting significantly over .300.

Didn't his last major injury occur when he had a hot bat?  Or am I thinking of someone else?
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: JaneDoe on June 14, 2007, 09:26:11 pm
Just looking at astros.com and Adam Everett is not on the active roster or the 40-man.  I did not think he would be taken off (40-man) for an injury.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: austro on June 14, 2007, 09:49:59 pm
Didn't his last major injury occur when he had a hot bat?  Or am I thinking of someone else?

I don't remember the numbers, but yes, he was hitting well when he suffered the broken arm.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: homer on June 14, 2007, 10:03:14 pm
I don't remember the numbers, but yes, he was hitting well when he suffered the broken arm.

Broken wrist on August 6, 2004.

.306/.358/.510, 5 HR, 16 RBI over previous 25 games.

This year:

.278/.313/.367, 1 HR, 7 RBI over previous 25 games.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: remy on June 14, 2007, 10:33:18 pm
Broken wrist on August 6, 2004.

.306/.358/.510, 5 HR, 16 RBI over previous 25 games.



That number jumps out at me.  That's a 30 hr clip!  Shitty timing indeed, then and now.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: pravata on June 15, 2007, 10:23:25 am
I heard Carlos Lee on the radio (740 am) this morning talking about how playing leftfield in Minute Maid is a lot harder than he had expected.  He's having to play back further than he thought because of the Crawford Boxes angle.  But, going back is difficult too, he says.  I had seen a couple weeks ago, and I thought I had posted it, Everett talking about the strategy of playing Lee back and letting him take the short pops.  Can't find it now.  But, given the situation, this meeting in what the two are calling "no man's land" seems almost inevitable. 
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: MusicMan on June 15, 2007, 10:25:11 am
I heard Carlos Lee on the radio (740 am) this morning talking about how playing leftfield in Minute Maid is a lot harder than he had expected.  He's having to play back further than he thought because of the Crawford Boxes angle.  But, going back is difficult too, he says.  I had seen a couple weeks ago, and I thought I had posted it, Everett talking about the strategy of playing Lee back and letting him take the short pops.  Can't find it now.  But, given the situation, this meeting in what the two are calling "no man's land" seems almost inevitable. 

Try explaining that to Pinwheel.  You would have lost him at "heard Carlos Lee talking."
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: pravata on June 15, 2007, 10:31:34 am
Try explaining that to Pinwheel.  You would have lost him at "heard Carlos Lee talking."

Why would anyone try to explain anything to Dick Justice?  He's worthless as an Astros commentator.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: MusicMan on June 15, 2007, 10:32:09 am
Why would anyone try to explain anything to Dick Justice?  He's worthless as a commentator.

FIFY.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: pravata on June 15, 2007, 10:34:41 am
FIFY.

I didnt want to stray into hyperbole.  I've never paid any attention to any of his commentary about any other topic.  I do know that he knows absolutely nothing about the Astros and suspect he knows absolutely nothing about baseball.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: AllyDStros on June 15, 2007, 02:35:21 pm
Just looking at astros.com and Adam Everett is not on the active roster or the 40-man.  I did not think he would be taken off (40-man) for an injury.

He's on there today. 15-day DL on the 40-man roster.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: Limey on June 15, 2007, 02:39:54 pm
He's on there today. 15-day DL on the 40-man roster.

I think he only comes off the 40-man roster if he goes on the 60-day DL.  8 weeks is 56 days, so I think, barring any setbacks, he'll stay on the 15-day and 40-man DL and roster respectively.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: Frobie on June 16, 2007, 01:37:17 am
Dammit, I go off to Canada for three days--THREE DAYS--and you idjits allow this to occur.  Not happy.

Seriously, I'll get caught up with the old posts eventually but can somebody bring me up to speed about Everett's injury and the day-to-day shortstop situation as of, say, right now?  Saw a highlight (that hardly seems to be the appropriate word) about it on SportsCentre (amongst the hockey highlights, even though it's June) and my first thought was, "Dang, now what?"

BTW, Toronto is a great place to visit.  If you ever get the chance to go (June-July-August, at least) I'd highly recommend it.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: pravata on June 16, 2007, 09:14:17 am
Dammit, I go off to Canada for three days--THREE DAYS--and you idjits allow this to occur.  Not happy.

Seriously, I'll get caught up with the old posts eventually but can somebody bring me up to speed about Everett's injury and the day-to-day shortstop situation as of, say, right now?  Saw a highlight (that hardly seems to be the appropriate word) about it on SportsCentre (amongst the hockey highlights, even though it's June) and my first thought was, "Dang, now what?"

BTW, Toronto is a great place to visit.  If you ever get the chance to go (June-July-August, at least) I'd highly recommend it.

Broke fibula.  No problem with the knee or ankle.  Officially, "4 to 8 weeks".  Purpura on the pregame yesterday said Everett is not even in a cast.  There's a boot thing he's wearing.  He made it sound that if you're going to have a broken leg, this is the one to have.  JD said they're going to xray every other day.  So they'll know the minute it's healed.  Once he's recovered they'll need to get him back to baseball shape.  Most important part is to make sure he can move side to side.  They called up Bruntlett but Footer is writing that Loretta will likely see most of the time. 
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: Frobie on June 16, 2007, 09:58:35 am
Thanks.  Whether you love Everett or hate him (I fall somewhat in the middle--hear that, Purpura?), it's clear that there really isn't a good plan B for SS.  I was trying to figure out amongst Loretta-Bruntlett-Burke(?) who is the best (least bad?) option to play daily. 

Oh, well.  I guess in the short-term we get to see what an Everett-less Astros team looks like.  It'll be interesting but I hope his return date is closer to 4 rather than 8 weeks.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: pravata on June 16, 2007, 10:02:49 am
Thanks.  Whether you love Everett or hate him (I fall somewhat in the middle--hear that, Purpura?), it's clear that there really isn't a good plan B for SS.  I was trying to figure out amongst Loretta-Bruntlett-Burke(?) who is the best (least bad?) option to play daily. 

Oh, well.  I guess in the short-term we get to see what an Everett-less Astros team looks like.  It'll be interesting but I hope his return date is closer to 4 rather than 8 weeks.

Already saw a little of it, the relay throw on the inside the park homerun.  Everett would have gone and got that, but last night Biggio decided to "take charge".  Do the Mariners send him knowing there's a better arm in the relay?  Run may have still scored, but the throw would have been better.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: strosrays on June 16, 2007, 12:35:46 pm
Broke fibula.  No problem with the knee or ankle.  Officially, "4 to 8 weeks".  Purpura on the pregame yesterday said Everett is not even in a cast.  There's a boot thing he's wearing.  He made it sound that if you're going to have a broken leg, this is the one to have.  JD said they're going to xray every other day.  So they'll know the minute it's healed.  Once he's recovered they'll need to get him back to baseball shape.  Most important part is to make sure he can move side to side.  They called up Bruntlett but Footer is writing that Loretta will likely see most of the time. 


I think I read in JAMA or somewhere, they need to hook up Oswalt's truck to AE's leg.  It'll speed up the healing process.
Title: Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart
Post by: chuck on June 16, 2007, 01:16:20 pm
BTW, Toronto is a great place to visit.  If you ever get the chance to go (June-July-August, at least) I'd highly recommend it.

If you ask me, Alan Ashby came out way ahead on the deal.