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General Discussion => Talk Zone => Topic started by: homer on June 06, 2007, 10:14:44 am
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As reported in the GZ, Berkman returned to the field during the 9th inning bench clearing:
While that only landed him fines, Berkman faces a likely suspension for returning to the field in the ninth inning after the benches cleared during the Lee-Corpas fracas. He was impossible to miss, in shorts and a sleeveless shirt, his back wrapped in an Ace bandage.
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_6070168
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...his back wrapped in an Ace bandage...
Ugh.
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Clearly.
I just today saw the play that led to his tirade/subsequent tossing (heh, heh--tossing). I can't believe that was ruled a swing. It was not close.
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How many games is he likely to be suspended for?
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How many games is he likely to be suspended for?
Can't find a good article, but probably 1 if any.
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How many games is he likely to be suspended for?
3 tops.
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As reported in the GZ, Berkman returned to the field during the 9th inning bench clearing:
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_6070168
ace bandage?
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ace bandage?
It's part of a protest to bring back Fruity Yummy Mummy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yummy_Mummy .
To show solidarity, Carlos Lee will be dressing as the Fruit Brute http://thinkingapeblues.com/images/JUNK_IMAGES/fruit_brute.jpg tomorrow.
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3 tops.
Sheffield got 3 for arguing balls and strikes and throwing part of his broken bat at the umpire (allegedly). I don't think Berkman's incident rises to that.
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ace bandage?
Pretty sure it was a girdle. The "Twinkie" insults hurt his feelings more than he lets on.
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Sheffield got 3 for arguing balls and strikes and throwing part of his broken bat at the umpire (allegedly). I don't think Berkman's incident rises to that.
Coming out for the group hug was a boneheaded move of unspeakable stupidity. I'm surprised the man can dress himself after that display.
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I'm surprised the man can dress himself after that display.
Are you sure he can?
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Coming out for the group hug was a boneheaded move of unspeakable stupidity. I'm surprised the man can dress himself after that display.
Every time I tell myself that I've just witnessed the dumbest thing Berkman's done on a baseball field, he'll go out & top it.
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Sheffield got 3 for arguing balls and strikes and throwing part of his broken bat at the umpire (allegedly). I don't think Berkman's incident rises to that.
It's the combination of his throwng stuff out there and then coming back on to the field for the bench clearing. He's looking at 3 tops, maybe less.
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It's the combination of his throwng stuff out there and then coming back on to the field for the bench clearing. He's looking at 3 tops, maybe less.
Throwing of his batting gloves was so embarrassingly weak that it should be reduced by one at least. As a general rule, anything you throw out of the dugout should not flutter to the ground.
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Clearly.
I just today saw the play that led to his tirade/subsequent tossing (heh, heh--tossing). I can't believe that was ruled a swing. It was not close.
Watched it on the Mlb TV feed last night from FSN-Rocky Mountains and the Colorado Broadcasters agree with you on it not being a swing...but they did show him clearly back on the field
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Watched it on the Mlb TV feed last night from FSN-Rocky Mountains and the Colorado Broadcasters agree with you on it not being a swing...but they did show him clearly back on the field
just going ot be interesting to see how the game tonight plays out .. will they play nice or make it to santas eternal forever naughty list
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I was at the game sitting right by the Astros dugout. He was wearing his sliding shorts and an under armor t-shirt. When he came running out of the dugout he had his left shoulder wrapped up with ice - like a pitcher. He ripped the ice pack off his shoulder and tried to work his way into the group hug before Berry corralled him and hustled him back to the clubhouse. Also, when he was thowing the temper tantrum in the dugout Garner yelled at Cecil and told him to, "get him the hell out of here".
Of course the big question here...is Lance playing with a hurt left wing?
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Of course the big question here...is Lance playing with a hurt left wing?
Evidence is increasingly pointing to "yes".
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Evidence is increasingly pointing to "yes".
Which further increases the level of boneheadedness of his actions last night--if you're hurt and not wanting the world to know, don't prance back out like a Kansas City faggot so everyone can see your boo boo.
He's hitting about a hundred points below where he should be and is wearing a sling. Probably something to that.
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Which further increases the level of boneheadedness of his actions last night--if you're hurt and not wanting the world to know, don't prance back out like a Kansas City faggot so everyone can see your boo boo.
He's hitting about a hundred points below where he should be and is wearing a sling. Probably something to that.
well stated!
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well stated!
makes you wonder what could cause a hurt shoulder on an an otherwise healthy young man like Berkman.
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makes you wonder what could cause a hurt shoulder on an an otherwise healthy young man like Berkman.
Oh no. Not this again.
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makes you wonder what could cause a hurt shoulder on an an otherwise healthy young man like Berkman.
Guitar Hero strikes again
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If Berkman is hurt, is there any benefit in hiding it this long?
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If Berkman is hurt, is there any benefit in hiding it this long?
Morgan Ensberg thinks so.
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Doesn't it get to a point where the other teams know it's more than a slump and their pitchers can go after him more often?
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If Berkman is hurt, is there any benefit in hiding it this long?
Who is he hiding it from? The club? Doesn't seem like it. The fans? Maybe, but that isn't really important.
Also, the length of the injury is only speculative. Could be recent, but maybe not:
(Berkman 5/31)I haven't felt comfortable the entire season. It has been so bad at times that I've wondered if there was something wrong, if I had an injury I didn't know about.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/justice/baseball/4853136.html
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Shouldn't there be an award for the most blatantly obvious thread title? Was there ever any doubt about this???
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makes you wonder what could cause a hurt shoulder on an an otherwise healthy young man like Berkman.
According to one of Charlie Palillo's listeners yesterday, Lou Gherig's disease might be the culprit. "It would explain everything."
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I don't think he's hiding it from the Astros. If the team knows it and if it goes on long enough that other teams figure out something is wrong, there doesn't seem to be any point in keeping it from the fans. If making it public knowledge gives other teams an advantage, I understand completely why they would keep it quiet. I'm not sure that's the case here. Hell, we don't even know if he's hurt for sure.
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According to one of Charlie Palillo's listeners yesterday, Lou Gherig's disease might be the culprit. "It would explain everything."
That's it. I'm switching to satellite even if I have to steal one from someone's car.
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According to one of Charlie Palillo's listeners yesterday, Lou Gherig's disease might be the culprit. "It would explain everything."
Is his shit on podcast? If so, do you know approximately when this was said?
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Is his shit on podcast? If so, do you know approximately when this was said?
Don't know and don't know.
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makes you wonder what could cause a hurt shoulder on an an otherwise healthy young man like Berkman.
Second Baptist Intramural Shot Putt Team???
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Eh- that's enough flailing around peope
ROIDS.
If berkman's body type doesn't scream steroids I don't know what does
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Is his shit on podcast? If so, do you know approximately when this was said?
http://2005.espn790.com/cc-common/podcast.html
June 5th, Hour 4 under pallilo podcasts. at the 16:30 mark--he said it was an emailer who suggested it.
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ALS? That's not even close to funny.
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Shouldn't there be an award for the most blatantly obvious thread title? Was there ever any doubt about this???
Except that he WAS using HIS head. If he was using SOMEONE ELSE'S head, he wouldn't have gone back out on the field.
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Eh- that's enough flailing around peope
ROIDS.
If berkman's body type doesn't scream steroids I don't know what does
just look at how cut and chiseled he is. Like a freaking greek statue.
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just look at how cut and chiseled he is. Like a freaking greek statue.
I haven't seen his nads, but yeah...everything else has got to be typical of a roid user. He's got two arms, most of his fingers, a toe...
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According to one of Charlie Palillo's listeners yesterday, Lou Gherig's disease might be the culprit. "It would explain everything."
That is the same gang of fans who claim the following as explanations for Berkman's woes:
1. Berkman is jealous of Carlos Lee's contract and is purposely being a Jake until McLane gives him a 100 million dollar contract.
2. Berkman is purposely trying to get Garner fired because he blames him for Chris Burke's demotion.
and so on.
Yeah, those kids *really* know their stuff... boy howdy!
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Doesn't it get to a point where the other teams know it's more than a slump and their pitchers can go after him more often?
They were at that point a month ago. I remarked about it when I saw Berkman swing about two seconds behind three fastball down the middle of the plate by a Phillie reliever on a Fox Sports Saturday broadcast (it was in April no less). It shocked me that he was so late on pitches he absolutely crushes. It got to be the norm for him to swing and miss at fastballs like that. He's not right, but I don't know if it is indeed injury related. When Berkman says he is not comfortable, it can mean a whole lot of things, from feeling a bit hindered to feeling a twinge of pain on every left handed swing. Again, I dunno, but the point remains, as soon as scouts saw Berkman's swing when being challenged in April, I'm sure the word made the rounds in May from just about every one in the majors that you can indeed challenge Berkman and stand a very good chance of beating him.
I saw the game this past Saturday and Joe Giradi kept saying that Berkman was rolling over fastballs on the outside part of the plate and that all he needed to do is hit those pitches to left field (as he has done in the past). With his power, those weak ground balls to second turn into long gone Conoco Pump blast. He may be right, maybe it is recognition of the pitch that is the problem (which means he needs his eyes checked).
But I've seen enough middle in fastballs to Berkman now get weakly grounded to second to say I am not so sure that Giradi is correct on that one.
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Noe. My goodness. Where in the hell do you get the energy to write these posts? War And Peace. For crying out loud.
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Noe. My goodness. Where in the hell do you get the energy to write these posts? War And Peace. For crying out loud.
Which one?
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Which one?
All of them.
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All of them.
Oh. Sorry. (short enough for you?)
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That's it. I'm switching to satellite even if I have to steal one from someone's car.
so you're the bastard!
sorry, XM radio stolen out of my car along with the wife's wallet last week.
Although to be fair, is it really stealing if my lovely yet distracted wife left her wallet sitting on the front seat with the door unlocked and the car parked overnight on the street in front of an obviously vacated house?
I felt like going all R. Lee Ermey on her, but i refrained.
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so you're the bastard!
sorry, XM radio stolen out of my car along with the wife's wallet last week.
Although to be fair, is it really stealing if my lovely yet distracted wife left her wallet sitting on the front seat with the door unlocked and the car parked overnight on the street in front of an obviously vacated house?
I felt like going all R. Lee Ermey on her, but i refrained.
Pointing out flaws in your wife's actions is not conductive to a long term marriage.
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Pointing out flaws in your wife's actions is not conductive to a long term marriage.
probably pooductive
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just look at how cut and chiseled he is. Like a freaking greek statue.
You made me do this.
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3839/nlcs301gd4.jpg
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You made me do this.
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3839/nlcs301gd4.jpg
i was looking for that photo earlier--from the 2005 playoff run, no?
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i was looking for that photo earlier--from the 2005 playoff run, no?
Yeah, I think that was taken just before game 1 at Busch. Ace and Gary were still giddy over their heroic home runs vs. ATL.
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According to one of Charlie Palillo's listeners yesterday, Lou Gherig's disease might be the culprit. "It would explain everything."
what an awful thing to say.