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Title: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: remy on May 19, 2007, 05:24:35 pm
I. Kinsler 2B
M. Young SS
M. Teixeira 1B
S. Sosa RF
N. Cruz LF
G. Laird C
K. Mahar CF
T. Metcalf 3B
J. Koronka P

C. Biggio 2B
M. Loretta SS
L. Berkman 1B
C. Lee LF
H. Pence CF
M. Ensberg 3B
J. Lane RF
B. Ausmus C
W. Rodriguez P
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Mr. Happy on May 19, 2007, 06:05:00 pm
I. Kinsler 2B
M. Young SS
M. Teixeira 1B
S. Sosa RF
N. Cruz LF
G. Laird C
K. Mahar CF
T. Metcalf 3B
J. Koronka P

C. Biggio 2B
M. Loretta SS
L. Berkman 1B
C. Lee LF
H. Pence CF
M. Ensberg 3B
J. Lane RF
B. Ausmus C
W. Rodriguez P

MoBerg and Lame in the lineup together. AAAAAAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!! What happened, Scraps, you don't like Wandy any more?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: austro on May 19, 2007, 06:06:56 pm
Well, I would have said that he's trying to get a good defense out there behind Wandy, except that Loretta is at SS, which is a little confusing. But Lane in RF is probably a better defensive option than Luuuuuuke.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: remy on May 19, 2007, 06:09:52 pm
I'm assuming Koronka is a LHP...
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: JaneDoe on May 19, 2007, 06:09:57 pm
Is this the first time PENCE!!! has hit in the 5 spot?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Mr. Happy on May 19, 2007, 06:11:02 pm
Is this the first time PENCE!!! has hit in the 5 spot?

I think so. Its a slap at MoBerg?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: mihoba on May 19, 2007, 06:11:18 pm
I'm assuming Koronka is a LHP...

Yep, exactly why Lane is starting.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: JaneDoe on May 19, 2007, 06:11:50 pm
I'm assuming Koronka is a LHP...

Yup
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: JaneDoe on May 19, 2007, 06:13:28 pm
I think so. Its a slap at MoBerg?

He better not take it that way.  PENCE!!! has been hitting much better than Iceberg. 
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Mr. Happy on May 19, 2007, 06:20:01 pm
He better not take it that way.  PENCE!!! has been hitting much better than Iceberg. 

Yeah but its a vet vs. rook kind of thing.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Mr. Happy on May 19, 2007, 06:22:28 pm
Good guys can't capitalize on Loretta's BB. We should be able to get to Koronka. He was 3-3 with a 5.4 ERA down in AAA.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: JaneDoe on May 19, 2007, 06:23:29 pm
"In My Own Words" with Lance Berkman at 10:00 p.m. on FSN
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: JaneDoe on May 19, 2007, 06:24:57 pm
Good guys can't capitalize on Loretta's BB. We should be able to get to Koronka. He was 3-3 with a 5.4 ERA down in AAA.

A rookie the good guys have never seen before?  We're doomed.  DOOMED I tell you.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: remy on May 19, 2007, 06:27:31 pm
A rookie the good guys have never seen before?  We're doomed.  DOOMED I tell you.

According to the announcers, we beat him last year.  So this isn't his first trip to the Show.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: pravata on May 19, 2007, 06:28:11 pm
Bill Brown just said "Kenny Lofton started in the center garden spot last night."  I'm on my 5th gin and/or tonic.  Did I hear correctly?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: AllyDStros on May 19, 2007, 06:30:16 pm
Bill Brown just said "Kenny Lofton started in the center garden spot last night."  I'm on my 5th gin and/or tonic.  Did I hear correctly?

You did! My immediate thought was 'Dude, Brownie's been reading OWA!"

Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: JaneDoe on May 19, 2007, 06:30:50 pm
According to the announcers, we beat him last year.  So this isn't his first trip to the Show.

Thank goodness, then we have a chance.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: remy on May 19, 2007, 06:31:38 pm
Last hit April 19th??? Is that POSSIBLE?  Or did it say last HR...
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Mr. Happy on May 19, 2007, 06:33:48 pm
Last hit April 19th??? Is that POSSIBLE?  Or did it say last HR...

He's 1-24 so it probably is true.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Mr. Happy on May 19, 2007, 06:34:37 pm
WTF is Lame doing swining on 3-0 with his stats???
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: remy on May 19, 2007, 06:35:39 pm
WTF is Lame doing swining on 3-0 with his stats???

Quite simple:  living up to his name!
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: JaneDoe on May 19, 2007, 06:36:05 pm
WTF is Lame doing swining on 3-0 with his stats???
Mr. Pop-up
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: mihoba on May 19, 2007, 06:37:37 pm
Mr. Pop-up

He bailed big time. He was facing third when he hit it. Makes me wonder what the fuck is the hitting coach doing? Lane has been pulling off for two fucking months.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: AllyDStros on May 19, 2007, 06:39:47 pm
He's 1-24 so it probably is true.

Last hit was a double (RBI double, I believe) on May 8th in Cincy. No idea what it said, but I can't imagine it was correct.

I thought it said HR, but his last HR was on April 21st.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: remy on May 19, 2007, 06:42:31 pm
I predict at least two runs for the Astros in the 3rd.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Mr. Happy on May 19, 2007, 06:45:25 pm
I predict at least two runs for the Astros in the 3rd.

Agreed. I predict 25+ pitches for Koronka in hte next frame.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Sambito on May 19, 2007, 06:46:40 pm
speaking of predictions... does OWA have a Biggio countdown
contest or is that heresy.

for me: July 7th
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: rifraft on May 19, 2007, 06:47:46 pm
when was the last time this team had a hit before the 5th inning?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: AllyDStros on May 19, 2007, 06:55:14 pm
Whoa! Jason just robbed Young of a HR there. Made it look effortless, too!

Jason's had some very nice defensive plays in his last few starts.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: remy on May 19, 2007, 06:55:28 pm
bunt single 2969!
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Matt on May 19, 2007, 06:57:03 pm
when was the last time this team had a hit before the 5th inning?
Probably last night
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Sambito on May 19, 2007, 06:58:48 pm
What is with Berkman striking out so much lately?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on May 19, 2007, 07:06:23 pm
What is with Berkman striking out so much lately?

His bat is often not making contact with the ball on swings with 2 strikes.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Matt on May 19, 2007, 07:07:06 pm
God Ensberg is just horrible.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Mr. Happy on May 19, 2007, 07:07:39 pm
Thanks for nothing MoBerg. Foul out!!!!
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: chuck on May 19, 2007, 07:09:10 pm
My internets was fucked up just as Pence did whatever he did. What did he do? Single? Where? Thanks.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: remy on May 19, 2007, 07:09:56 pm
My internets was fucked up just as Pence did whatever he did. What did he do? Single? Where? Thanks.

Hard single up the middle, scoring Biggio.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on May 19, 2007, 07:10:17 pm
Koronka looks a bit like Alex Karas... check that, I mean Eric Karros.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Matt on May 19, 2007, 07:11:50 pm
Ensberg always looks confused when he actually swings the bat. 
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on May 19, 2007, 07:12:43 pm
Wandy seems to be getting a much better ratio of Ks this year.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: remy on May 19, 2007, 07:13:41 pm
Damn, he made them look silly that inning.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on May 19, 2007, 07:22:29 pm
Wandy seems to be getting a much better ratio of Ks this year.

2005 K/9 5.60
2006 K/9 6.50
2007 K/9 8.24
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Mr. Happy on May 19, 2007, 07:27:50 pm
Koronka 89 pitches through 4 IP. I'm sure that Washington's thrilled.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Sambito on May 19, 2007, 07:31:06 pm
whats the rangers bully look like
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: rifraft on May 19, 2007, 07:35:14 pm
gotta throw strikes to the bottom of the lineup...
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Will on May 19, 2007, 07:37:46 pm
Well, he got the pitcher... now its Kinsler.... who's 2 for 2 against wandy so far
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Mr. Happy on May 19, 2007, 07:48:02 pm
Twinkie's looking like shit from the right side tonight.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Sambito on May 19, 2007, 07:48:12 pm
His bat is often not making contact with the ball on swings with 2 strikes.

another strike out; how does hard does koronka throw?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Sambito on May 19, 2007, 07:50:43 pm
last three games the offense is on hiatus: pitchers

1) Linecum (sp?)
2) Tejada
3) Koronka

c'mon, I realize I couldn't hit my way out of a paper bag but
we are striking out way too much... anyone with NL stats on team K's
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Will on May 19, 2007, 07:54:19 pm
last three games the offense is on hiatus: pitchers

1) Linecum (sp?)
2) Tejada
3) Koronka

c'mon, I realize I couldn't hit my way out of a paper bag but
we are striking out way too much... anyone with NL stats on team K's

just wait till we visit sf on monday, care to guess how many runs we're gonna score against  Lowry, Lincecum, and Zito?

Our offense is just mind boggling
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: austro on May 19, 2007, 07:55:31 pm
That just sucks. I don't mind him driving in the run, just do it with a real hit. That sucked.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Will on May 19, 2007, 07:56:51 pm
wandy's control looks off... he looks done
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: JaneDoe on May 19, 2007, 07:57:10 pm
That just sucks. I don't mind him driving in the run, just do it with a real hit. That sucked.

ok, what happened?  Why was it not a real hit?  Was outside w/ the kids.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: austro on May 19, 2007, 07:58:22 pm
ok, what happened?  Why was it not a real hit?  Was outside w/ the kids.

Chunked off the handle into right center. Pence got a late jump, but I don't really think anybody would have caught it. It was just one of those excuse-me things.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: rifraft on May 19, 2007, 07:58:30 pm
just wait till we visit sf on monday, care to guess how many runs we're gonna score against  Lowry, Lincecum, and Zito?

Our offense is just mind boggling

the leadoff man gets on base less than 30% of the time, the #3 hitter hasn't come to life yet, and the team can't find a consistent #5 hitter.  its quite understandable that the team's offense has been bad.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on May 19, 2007, 07:59:45 pm
This guy is so overdue.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: JaneDoe on May 19, 2007, 07:59:58 pm
Quote
the team can't find a consistent #5 hitter.  

Maybe they have.

Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on May 19, 2007, 08:00:31 pm
So is this guy
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: JaneDoe on May 19, 2007, 08:00:45 pm
This guy is so overdue.

Let's try this with Lane.

This guy is so overdue.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: chuck on May 19, 2007, 08:02:31 pm
Well!
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: austro on May 19, 2007, 08:02:44 pm
Ok, that wasn't exactly in the script, but I"ll take it.

Lane's expression as he was looking at Manso was "you're kidding, right?".
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: rifraft on May 19, 2007, 08:02:53 pm
was that a sacrafice, or a bunt for a hit?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Will on May 19, 2007, 08:03:07 pm
Let's try this with Lane.

This guy is so overdue.

Didn't expect a bunt.... but I'll take it
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: JaneDoe on May 19, 2007, 08:03:30 pm
Let's try this with Lane.

This guy is so overdue.

And he bunts for a hit. I saw it with my own eyes, and I am still not sure I believe it happened.

Sphinx, you may be on to something.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Will on May 19, 2007, 08:05:58 pm
And he bunts for a hit. I saw it with my own eyes, and I am still not sure I believe it happened.

Sphinx, you may be on to something.

With that bunt, his BA is back to .200
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Savage on May 19, 2007, 08:07:09 pm
Well that sucked.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: austro on May 19, 2007, 08:07:29 pm
Ausmus with the laser-guided GIDP. Remarkable.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: AllyDStros on May 19, 2007, 08:07:47 pm
last three games the offense is on hiatus: pitchers

1) Linecum (sp?)
2) Tejada
3) Koronka

c'mon, I realize I couldn't hit my way out of a paper bag but
we are striking out way too much... anyone with NL stats on team K's

Came into play tonight with the 10th most at 273. Cardinals had the fewest at 200, Marlins have the most at 352. Pretty much splitting the difference.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: chuck on May 19, 2007, 08:09:04 pm
OK, here's the new lineup. Ensberg leads off. He walks. Lane comes up second. He bunts for a hit. Lance comes up third. He strikes out. Lee is next. He doubles Ensberg home. Pence is 5th. He singles to center scoring Lane and Lee. Biggio sixth. He homers to the Crawford Boxes. 7th, 8th and 9th, who the hell cares?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: cougar on May 19, 2007, 08:10:54 pm
Let's see if Feldman knows how to throw a slider away and in the dirt.

Edit: Apparently not.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: austro on May 19, 2007, 08:11:08 pm
Well, the good news is that it looks like Feldman doesn't have a slider. Go Biggio!
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Sambito on May 19, 2007, 08:12:10 pm
thanks for the info
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Savage on May 19, 2007, 08:13:22 pm
I have to admit, it looked like he was out to me.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: rifraft on May 19, 2007, 08:13:48 pm
can berkman emerge from his slumber?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on May 19, 2007, 08:14:03 pm
Horrible call. Denkinger like...

Break for the Astros
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: austro on May 19, 2007, 08:14:14 pm
Wow, what was the umpire thinking? Did he think a tag was needed?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: chuck on May 19, 2007, 08:14:26 pm
That was a travesty of a call.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Ty in Tampa on May 19, 2007, 08:14:56 pm
Embarassingly bad call.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: cougar on May 19, 2007, 08:23:01 pm
Sammy the Clown tripped over his oversized red shoes out there in RF.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: austro on May 19, 2007, 08:23:26 pm
Christmas in May for the Astros.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Savage on May 19, 2007, 08:23:47 pm
Sammy the Clown tripped over his oversized red shoes out there in RF.

Outstanding.  I can't stand that fucker.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: austro on May 19, 2007, 08:28:03 pm
Wow, that's a prize-winning moustache!
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: JaneDoe on May 19, 2007, 08:28:08 pm
Outstanding.  I can't stand that fucker.

And he tried to say he caught it.  Liar and a cheater.  Anyone check his bat tonight?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: cougar on May 19, 2007, 08:29:29 pm
Pence sure doesn't get cheated on his swings.  I guess he thinks choking up on the bat is for pansies.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: chuck on May 19, 2007, 08:33:19 pm
Well, the Brewers are ten games over .500. Something else I would have considered unlikely ever to say is this: Wandy Rodriguez pitched a brilliant game.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Sambito on May 19, 2007, 08:38:31 pm
wandy has been pretty good this year...
not a lot of big run innings, more K's less BB's
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Anit on May 19, 2007, 08:43:00 pm
did anyone else get a chuckle from JD's "theres serena" line?
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: cougar on May 19, 2007, 08:49:35 pm
Man, Brad seems so much more comfortable not having to worry about nailing down a game.  Unfortunately I don't think the Astros like having a $5 million setup man and middle reliever.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: AllyDStros on May 19, 2007, 08:50:35 pm
did anyone else get a chuckle from JD's "theres serena" line?

(raises hand shyly)

But then again, 95% of what he says cracks me up.  
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Reuben on May 19, 2007, 08:57:26 pm
Man, Brad seems so much more comfortable not having to worry about nailing down a game.  Unfortunately I don't think the Astros like having a $5 million setup man and middle reliever.
Why not, lots of teams have $4-6 mil guys like that. Plus, the Astros currently have a $400,000 (or whatever) closer in Wheels.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Bench on May 19, 2007, 09:30:29 pm
Why not, lots of teams have $4-6 mil guys like that. Plus, the Astros currently have a $400,000 (or whatever) closer in Wheels.

Exactly. Not only is it a non-issue, it's a wash.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: cougar on May 19, 2007, 10:29:44 pm
Exactly. Not only is it a non-issue, it's a wash.

Dan Wheeler 2007 salary - $2,100,000

I've got no problem if the Astros pay Lidge $6 million.  I just would like more production out of him than a 7th inning setup guy.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Frobie on May 19, 2007, 10:59:36 pm
Sorry to do this after-the-fact but I got to go to the game tonight (holy crap, what a beautiful night in Houston--too bad we can't bottle one of these and save it for mid-August) and haven't seen any replays.  When I am fortunate enough to attend I always make a mental note of things to check in the GZ when I get home.  Almost always my questions are already answered, but it seems like there were not many folks around tonight so the discussion was kind of limited. 

That being said, when seen live it sure looked like Lamb was out by a good 5 feet at 3rd on that play in the 6th.  It seems like the GZ-dwellers saw it the same way.  What the hell happened?

And soon after on the ball Berkman hit to right that was ruled no catch, was it the right call?  I didn't really get a good look at it.

Just wonderin'.
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Savage on May 19, 2007, 11:27:29 pm
Sorry to do this after-the-fact but I got to go to the game tonight (holy crap, what a beautiful night in Houston--too bad we can't bottle one of these and save it for mid-August) and haven't seen any replays.  When I am fortunate enough to attend I always make a mental note of things to check in the GZ when I get home.  Almost always my questions are already answered, but it seems like there were not many folks around tonight so the discussion was kind of limited. 

That being said, when seen live it sure looked like Lamb was out by a good 5 feet at 3rd on that play in the 6th.  It seems like the GZ-dwellers saw it the same way.  What the hell happened?

And soon after on the ball Berkman hit to right that was ruled no catch, was it the right call?  I didn't really get a good look at it.

Just wonderin'.

He was out.  Ump just blew the call. 

Berkman call was right - the ball bounced and Sammy trapped it.  He just stood up and for a second pretended he'd caught the ball before he threw it into the infield. 
Title: Re: Rangers@Astros - 5/19
Post by: Frobie on May 19, 2007, 11:43:53 pm
Much obliged.  Our seats are on the 3B side so I wouldn't have been surprised either way with respect to Sosa's play.  It's just nice to get some feedback about what actually happened.