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Title: Woody Williams
Post by: Mr. Happy on April 16, 2007, 09:21:42 am
For his first three outings, has he pitched (a) better than you thought he would, (b) exactly how you thought he would or (c) worse than you thought he would?
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: drew corleone on April 16, 2007, 09:37:09 am
B... or at least pretty much how I thought he would.
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: Mr. Happy on April 16, 2007, 09:40:34 am
B... or at least pretty much how I thought he would.

(b) is my answer as well. I think that he'll improve as the season goes on. My concern when we signed him was the effective commitment of the bullpen to about four innings every fifth day on his part.
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: JimR on April 16, 2007, 09:51:38 am
For his first three outings, has he pitched (a) better than you thought he would, (b) exactly how you thought he would or (c) worse than you thought he would?

you have to throw out the Phillies game unless you also are going to say that Oswalt has pitched worse than you expected.
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: Mr. Happy on April 16, 2007, 09:53:55 am
you have to throw out the Phillies game unless you also are going to say that Oswalt has pitched worse than you expected.

I agree. The Phillies start was under difficult circs. Ozwalt has pitched as well as I expected. That complete game gem was outstanding.
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: David in Jackson on April 16, 2007, 10:21:25 am
For his first three outings, has he pitched (a) better than you thought he would, (b) exactly how you thought he would or (c) worse than you thought he would?

B - which is to say he's really a 4th starter and 5-6 inning pitcher at this point in his career, and a team that slots him #2 is in trouble.
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: JimR on April 16, 2007, 10:23:33 am
he has had three starts. why don't we wait awhile before undertaking all of these post mortems.
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: Froback on April 16, 2007, 10:26:07 am
aw, come on Jim.  Some people want to dogpile all the time.  And you want to take away their "fun"...
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: pravata on April 16, 2007, 10:28:45 am
he has had three starts. why don't we wait awhile before undertaking all of these post mortems.

Because more facts aren't going to have any influence on pre-conceived opinions. 
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: Froback on April 16, 2007, 10:31:08 am
Because more facts aren't going to have any influence on pre-conceived opinions. 
Well said... err thought.... errr typed.... crap I give up!
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: utastro on April 16, 2007, 10:57:16 am
Woody is who we thought he was.

signed Dennis Green
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: drew corleone on April 16, 2007, 10:59:15 am
aw, come on Jim.  Some people want to dogpile all the time.  And you want to take away their "fun"...

I don't think anyone is dogpiling.

Woody has pitched pretty well in my opinion.
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: Fredia on April 16, 2007, 11:09:58 am
b also. in that game againt Phillie he did have one three up three down inning. be nice if he could do that more often
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: Duke on April 16, 2007, 12:43:19 pm
I think he has pitched ok for the most part.  Just too many mistakes up.  I'm hoping he'll get on track and eat up a couple hundred innings.
Title: Re: Woody Williams
Post by: Mr. Happy on April 16, 2007, 02:59:38 pm
I think he has pitched ok for the most part.  Just too many mistakes up.  I'm hoping he'll get on track and eat up a couple hundred innings.

He has missed up in the zone. His stuff isn't good enough to do that. I think that if we get 150-175 innings out of Woody, that'll be acceptable.