Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

[remy]

C. Biggio 2B
H. Pence CF
L. Berkman 1B
C. Lee LF
M. Loretta 3B
L. Scott RF
A. Everett SS
B. Ausmus C
W. Williams P


W. Taveras CF
K. Matsui 2B
M. Holliday LF
T. Helton 1B
G. Atkins 3B
B. Hawpe RF
T. Two Lewinskis SS
Y. Torrealba C
A. Cook P

[Andyzipp]

FIRST!

Wait a minute...where am I?

[Bench]

Isn't today the 6th?

[Noe]

Looks like Scraps is settling in on a lineup.  Even more reason to believe that MoBerg is now the right handed late inning power hitter off the bench for the team.  And Lamb goes back to lefty pincher hitter extraordinaire.  Oh, and what happened to Munson catching three times a week?  Ausmus caught Wandy, is going to catch Williams and most certainly catch Roy.

Am I missing something here about the proported switch?

[pravata]

Looks like Scraps is settling in on a lineup.  Even more reason to believe that MoBerg is now the right handed late inning power hitter off the bench for the team.  And Lamb goes back to lefty pincher hitter extraordinaire.  Oh, and what happened to Munson catching three times a week?  Ausmus caught Wandy, is going to catch Williams and most certainly catch Roy.

Am I missing something here about the proported switch?

half and half Link

[pravata]

Isn't today the 6th?

D-Day.

[HudsonHawk]

Woody better get the ball down, or it's gonna be a L  O  N  G night. 

[Twoniner]

Looks like Scraps is settling in on a lineup.

And it has Biggio leading off.  Great..

[pravata]

Woody better get the ball down, or it's gonna be a L  O  N  G night. 

I can live with 3 lazy flyballs per inning.

[pravata]

And it has Biggio leading off.  Great..

What team are you watching?

[HudsonHawk]

I can live with 3 lazy flyballs per inning.

He keeps everything above the waiste, and those lazy fly balls will turn into towering shots the next time through the order.

[Lurch]

Any word if warnings were issued before the game?

[pravata]

He keeps everything above the waiste, and those lazy fly balls will turn into towering shots the next time through the order.

Also the Chinook winds are blowing.  They said out to right.  That could be dangerous

[Noe]

He keeps everything above the waiste, and those lazy fly balls will turn into towering shots the next time through the order.

Abso-freaking-lutely.  You can see why Woody has a 14 ERA at Coors.

[HudsonHawk]

Any word if warnings were issued before the game?

Like hurricane warnings?

[Noe]

half and half Link

I guess I won't be surprised if Munson catches Sampson and then Roy back to back then.  Since Roy popped off on needing more offense, this is one way to get it for him.

[pravata]

I guess I won't be surprised if Munson catches Sampson and then Roy back to back then.  Since Roy popped off on needing more offense, this is one way to get it for him.

I think Garner said specifically that Ausmus would catch Roy.  The math doesnt work out for this week. 

[loganck]

Anyone mind explaining why Garner wasn't allowed to double switch after Berkman got tossed?

[remy]

Isn't today the 6th?

whoopsies. sorry bout that.

[HudsonHawk]

Anyone mind explaining why Garner wasn't allowed to double switch after Berkman got tossed?

I didn't see it...did Berkman's out end the inning?

[pravata]

I didn't see it...did Berkman's out end the inning?

Yes.  Go on.

[Noe]

I think Garner said specifically that Ausmus would catch Roy.  The math doesnt work out for this week. 

Hence my confusion with no Munson tonight, unless Woody said "no way" to having Ausmus out of the game.

[HudsonHawk]

Yes.  Go on.

Then he could have double switched. 

[pravata]

Hence my confusion with no Munson tonight, unless Woody said "no way" to having Ausmus out of the game.

That's what I'm thinking.   Which is why Ausmus was not worried in the least about pt.

[loganck]

Then he could have double switched. 

He tried.  They wouldn't let him.  Unless i'm totally missing something.

[pravata]

Then he could have double switched. 

They didnt let him.  Stood around talking about it for several minutes.  I think he was pissed and it carried over into the Lee plunking.

[Noe]

CB Bucknor is up to his old tricks of allowing a wide corner.  All hitters are on notice.

[HudsonHawk]

They didnt let him.  Stood around talking about it for several minutes.  I think he was pissed and it carried over into the Lee plunking.

What do you mean they wouldn't let him?  The umpires got to pick who substituted for Berkman? 

[loganck]

What do you mean they wouldn't let him?  The umpires got to pick who substituted for Berkman? 

exactly what I couldn't understand

[homer]

CB Bucknor is up to his old tricks of allowing a wide corner.  All hitters are on notice.

Yeah, but I have also noticed the camera angle from center is wider than other parks... so things look even wider to the viewer.

[pravata]

What do you mean they wouldn't let him?  The umpires got to pick who substituted for Berkman? 

No, Ensberg was subed for 3d and Loretta moved to 1st.  Gar wanted Ensberg to hit 9 but they wouldnt let him do it.  They told him Lidge had to go in at the 9 and Ensberg went in 3rd.. We're confused why not.

[HudsonHawk]

exactly what I couldn't understand

I'm lost too then.  When Berkman got tossed, Garner should have been able to substitute him with any available player he wanted.  The umpires don't get to choose.  If they did, that's totally fucked up.

[pravata]

I'm lost too then.  When Berkman got tossed, Garner should have been able to substitute him with any available player he wanted.  The umpires don't get to choose.  If they did, that's totally fucked up.

Because theyre ass covered assholes with creamy ass filling.

[homer]

Wind saved Woody there.

[remy]

Wow... the park held it in.

[Lurch]

Lee Penced that ball off the wall

[HudsonHawk]

No, Ensberg was subed for 3d and Loretta moved to 1st.  Gar wanted Ensberg to hit 9 but they wouldnt let him do it.  They told him Lidge had to go in at the 9 and Ensberg went in 3rd.. We're confused why not.

That's total bullshit.  Garner can substitute any player he wants for Berkman.  The umpires picked the player.  I'd be raising hell.

[homer]

Because theyre ass covered assholes with creamy ass filling.

Mmmmm....creamy ass filling.

[pravata]

Wind saved Woody there.

But Lee runs right to the wall.  Come ON.  It's simple Newtonian physics.  We're not talking string theory.

[pravata]

That's total bullshit.  Garner can substitute any player he wants for Berkman.  The umpires picked the player.  I'd be raising hell.

Garner argued with them for awhile.  You could tell he was pissed.  Then when they gave him the warning after Corpas hit Lee, he went off.  Thats why he got tossed.

[HudsonHawk]

Because theyre ass covered assholes with creamy ass filling.

 
Only think I can think of is that you have to announce a double switch when it happens.  You can't decide after play has begun that you want to move players in the batting order.  So if Garner didn't announce to the umpires that he was substituting Lidge for Berkman before Lidge started warming up, he can't do it later.

[pravata]

Only think I can think of is that you have to announce a double switch when it happens.  You can't decide after play has begun that you want to move players in the batting order.  So if Garner didn't announce to the umpires that he was substituting Lidge for Berkman before Lidge started warming up, he can't do it later.

Musta been.  Because Lidge had gone out to the mound.  Camera angle couldnt tell if he was throwing, but he had to have been.

[T. J.]

That's total bullshit.  Garner can substitute any player he wants for Berkman.  The umpires picked the player.  I'd be raising hell.

From the Rocks' main page, http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20070605&content_id=2007571&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=col

"Hurdle had a minor victory in convincing the umpires to disallow a double-switch after Berkman's ejection, noting that Astros manager Phil Garner didn't announce the move until Lidge had already started warming up. That made it a straight-up switch by default and cost Garner a tactical move in aligning his batting order."

[Noe]

BTW - Brownie, who decided to play Bill Brown P.I., gave his interpretation of why Berkman was tossed.  It goes like this:

As Berkman runs towards first (I use run loosely here), he notices that Rapuano calls him out on a swinging strike.

Berkman screams "No way, No way!" and walks towards Rapuano.

Rapuano (according to Brownie) then motioned to the Astros bench while moving towards Berkman and (again, according to Brownie) says "Get back to the bench!". 

Berkman goes crazy *thinking* that Rapuano was tossing him, when in fact he was merely saying with his actions and words that he had no inclination to discuss anything with Lance.

Rapuano notices that Berkman is now animated rushing towards him so he then tosses him.

In short, Berkman mistook the umpire's direction and in essence got tossed after the fact.  No word if Brownie has any information to share on the grassy knoll and JFK, but juneberno!

[homer]

Only think I can think of is that you have to announce a double switch when it happens.  You can't decide after play has begun that you want to move players in the batting order.  So if Garner didn't announce to the umpires that he was substituting Lidge for Berkman before Lidge started warming up, he can't do it later.

That is what JD guessed happen. But Gar did go to the umpire to make the change, JD thought.

[Anit]

any wagers on how long we get the perfect game thrown against us tonight?

[pravata]

That is what JD guessed happen. But Gar did go to the umpire to make the change, JD thought.

I like my original explanation, ass covered assholes with creamy ass filing.

[pravata]

any wagers on how long we get the perfect game thrown against us tonight?

Woody gets a hit right here.

[Lurch]

Only think I can think of is that you have to announce a double switch when it happens.  You can't decide after play has begun that you want to move players in the batting order.  So if Garner didn't announce to the umpires that he was substituting Lidge for Berkman before Lidge started warming up, he can't do it later.

I bet Lidge came in before the ejection


Rule 3.06
The umpire-in-chief must be informed of the multiple substitutions before the manager calls for a new pitcher (if the manager wishes to interchange the batting order).

[homer]

I like my original explanation, ass covered assholes with creamy ass filing.

Is that a Moon Pie?

[pravata]

Is that a Moon Pie?

HEY, dont you be talking bad about Moon Pies!

[homer]

HEY, dont you be talking bad about Moon Pies!

Moon Pies are delicious. FACT!

[T. J.]

I bet Lidge came in before the ejection


Rule 3.06
The umpire-in-chief must be informed of the multiple substitutions before the manager calls for a new pitcher (if the manager wishes to interchange the batting order).

Geezus people, read a few posts up.  I sent you the link to the explanation.

[Gleek]

Looks like Scraps is settling in on a lineup.  Even more reason to believe that MoBerg is now the right handed late inning power hitter off the bench for the team.  And Lamb goes back to lefty pincher hitter extraordinaire.  Oh, and what happened to Munson catching three times a week?  Ausmus caught Wandy, is going to catch Williams and most certainly catch Roy.

Am I missing something here about the proported switch?

I think Garner is just taking his time with Munson, if he lives up to his full pootential, he should see more playing time.  However, he WILL NOT catch OssssssssssssssWALT or WOODY reagulary.

[HudsonHawk]

That is what JD guessed happen. But Gar did go to the umpire to make the change, JD thought.

He has to go to the umpires and announce the double switch *before* the substitute players take their positions.  So if Garner is still arguing with the ump and Lorett trots over to 1B and Ensberg to 3B, then it's too late.  Sounds like Garner was just late notifying the umps and the umps were not gonna cut him any slack. 

[Lurch]

Geezus people, read a few posts up.  I sent you the link to the explanation.

"Warning - while you were reading a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post." ... turns out this has value after all.  Sorry bout that

[pravata]

I think Garner is just taking his time with Munson, if he lives up to his full pootential, he should see more playing time.  However, he WILL NOT catch OssssssssssssssWALT or WOODY reagulary.

If he lives up to full potential he catches once every 5 and is the first lefthanded pinchhitter.  They want him to play so far over his head that he gets a nose bleed for a week to seven days.

[Noe]

BTW - Brownie also said that neither Corpas (who he called Corpas Delicti) nor Lee have talked about any bad blood between each.  In fact, they each decided not to talk to about it today.  Brownie said he try to get more information, to which Jimmy D says "Brownie is on the case!".

We can all rest easier now.

[pravata]

Moon Pies are delicious. FACT!

Even the vanilla ones.

[homer]

Even the vanilla ones.

Mmmm...Banana.

[pravata]

Dammit.  Walks are the last thing you want in this park.

[T. J.]

"Warning - while you were reading a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post." ... turns out this has value after all.  Sorry bout that

My comment came out a bit harsh.  It just seemed there was still a lot of "wha happen?" posts going on...not just yours.  Here, have a beer.

[HudsonHawk]

Moon Pies are delicious. FACT!

I wonder if I have any RC Cola and some vi-EENA sausages?

[Noe]

Wind sure is whipping around the park today.  I noticed the umpire's and Rockie hitter's uniforms showing some unique wind directions.  Odd wind swirls today.

[T. J.]

Mmmm...Banana.

Ok, now we have banana and creamy ass filling in the same thread.  NTTAWTT.

[pravata]

I wonder if I have any RC Cola and some vi-EENA sausages?

You just described every camping trip ever.  Except for the tequila and the Dinty Moore stew.

[Bench]

Lee Barbaro'd that dive.

[Noe]

OMG!  I just got a flashback of Cliff Johnson playing left field for the Houston Astros.  I. Kid. You. Not!

[remy]

that was not pretty

[homer]

Dammit.  Walks are the last thing you want in this park.

2 out walks fucking suck.

[MRaup]

Lee looked like he was running in quick-sand his first 3 steps after that ball.

[T. J.]

Fugly "dive".

[Gleek]

If he lives up to full potential he catches once every 5 and is the first lefthanded pinchhitter.  They want him to play so far over his head that he gets a nose bleed for a week to seven days.

Agreed, but if his nose bleed drives in more runs than Ausmus's vaginal hemmoridge, i might consider playing the dude more than once a week. JUST SAYIN!!

[HudsonHawk]

You just described every camping trip ever.  Except for the tequila and the Dinty Moore stew.

That's my standard fishing lunch...some vi-EENas and saltines, an RC and a moon pie.  That's about as hillbilly as you get.

[pravata]

Agreed, but if his nose bleed drives in more runs than Ausmus's vaginal hemmoridge, i might consider playing the dude more than once a week. JUST SAYIN!!

Say all you like, I know 5 guys who are going to disagree with you.

[pravata]

That's my standard fishing lunch...some vi-EENas and saltines, an RC and a moon pie.  That's about as hillbilly as you get.

smoked oysters in a can.

[Bench]

Say all you like, I know 5 guys who are going to disagree with you.

Meh. They can't see nuthin' from 60 odd feet away!

[HudsonHawk]

Fugly "dive".

I didn't think it was *that* bad.  It's just that Lee runs like I do.

[homer]

Agreed, but if his nose bleed drives in more runs than Ausmus's vaginal hemmoridge, i might consider playing the dude more than once a week. JUST SAYIN!!

I didn't know Ausmus was primarily responsible for driving in runs from the 8 hole.

[Noe]

That's my standard fishing lunch...some vi-EENas and saltines, an RC and a moon pie.  That's about as hillbilly as you get.

Standard lunch for Jr. High (the little mom and pop grocery store was right next door to the school): Summer sausage, saltines and a coca-cola.  Every day.

[Gleek]

Say all you like, I know 5 guys who are going to disagree with you.

Ohhhh Comon man, you know you can find more than five!

[pravata]

I didn't think it was *that* bad.  It's just that Lee runs like I do.

Hunches up his shoulders and runs on his tip toes.

[T. J.]

That's my standard fishing lunch...some vi-EENas and saltines, an RC and a moon pie.  That's about as hillbilly as you get.

My granddad always brought stick balogna on fishing trips.  Saltines too, natch.

[homer]

Standard lunch for Jr. High (the little mom and pop grocery store was right next door to the school): Summer sausage, saltines and a coca-cola.  Every day.

Summer is a funny name for a guy.

[Noe]

Ohhhh Comon man, you know you can find more than five!

I guess it didn't register, eh?

[pravata]

Ohhhh Comon man, you know you can find more than five!

Lidge, 6.  And you know you want Ausmus catching Lidge.

[Noe]

Summer is a funny name for a guy.

I didn't name the food, just join the fun eating it.

[remy]

That's my Willy!

[T. J.]

These Rockies uniforms make them look like they're from the future.

[homer]

I didn't name the food, just join the fun eating it.

Nevermind.

[HudsonHawk]

That's my Willy!

Wow.  That's a tough error.

[Noe]

Hmmmm... que pasa with Willy's arm?  That was not his typical strong throw home.

[Amy]

I haven't heard that sound from Twinkie's bat very often this year.  I like it.

[remy]

Lance SCALDED that one!  Mansolino with a risky call again.

[remy]

Wow.  That's a tough error.

Changed to a hit.

[pravata]

Lance SCALDED that one!  Mansolino with a risky call again.

short single to center. Gunther forced the bad throw.

[Noe]

Nevermind.

I knew what you were implying, but I didn't have anything else to come back with.  I thought "hide the salami" but I like salami as well.

[HudsonHawk]

Hmmmm... que pasa with Willy's arm?  That was not his typical strong throw home.

I think he was throwing into a 30 mph wind, which is like throwing under water.

[pravata]

Hmmmm... que pasa with Willy's arm?  That was not his typical strong throw home.

hurried because of Thunder Ps speed.

[Noe]

Changed to a hit.

Because the no-no was no longer in doubt.

[pravata]

I knew what you were implying, but I didn't have anything else to come back with.  I thought "hide the salami" but I like salami as well.

nttawwt

[Noe]

I think he was throwing into a 30 mph wind, which is like throwing under water.

Now *THAT* is a great explanation.  Thanks!

[HudsonHawk]

These Rockies uniforms make them look like they're from the future.

Why are people such bad dressers in the future?

[Noe]

nttawwt

I thought of saying "You must be thinking of the guys in wood shop... I hung out with the metal shop dudes... NTTAWWT!"

[Gleek]

Lidge, 6.  And you know you want Ausmus catching Lidge.

YES I DO, excellent point. I bow to your superrior knowledge....   ya got me there

[pravata]

Why are people such bad dressers in the future?

Cause theyre pissed.  They were promised hover cars. Where's the hover cars?!

[homer]

Cause theyre pissed.  They were promised hover cars. Where's the hover cars?!

Jet. Pack.

[Lurch]

I hung out with the metal shop dudes... NTTAWWT!"

Explains a lot

[pravata]

Jet. Pack.

Either way.  I was promised.  Wouldnt have lived this long if all they had were freakin Toyotas.

[Bench]

Man, it's just fun watching Loretta hit.

[remy]

What a great at-bat!

[T. J.]

That was a great fucking at-bat.

[Noe]

Why are people such bad dressers in the future?

Wait a minute, this is the future. Where are all the phaser guns?

[Amy]

Either way.  I was promised.  Wouldnt have lived this long if all they had were freakin Toyotas.

Yep, didn't most of as kids picture the future looking like The Jetsons?

[Bench]

Cause theyre pissed.  They were promised hover cars. Where's the hover cars?!

"Where we're going, we don't need roads!"

[HudsonHawk]

Alright, what the FUCK is Carlos Lee doing?  Watching a double play?  ARRRRGGHHHH!!!!!!

[Amy]

Jeff Huson says Loretta was tagged on the knee.  Like hell, that tag was right on the cup.

[gwat]

He's scoring.

[Bench]

Jeff Huson says Loretta was tagged on the knee.  Like hell, that tag was right on the cup.

Obligatory nttawwt.

[homer]

Alright, what the FUCK is Carlos Lee doing?  Watching a double play?  ARRRRGGHHHH!!!!!!

Carlos Lee is a shitty baserunner.

[homer]

Jeff Huson says Loretta was tagged on the knee.  Like hell, that tag was right on the cup.

Close eye on his cup? NTTAWWT

[pravata]

He's scoring.

Yeah, now.  But I agree, I wouldnt be testing Helton.  Bold move going to 2nd.

[Bench]

Carlos Lee is a shitty baserunner.

That's interesting, because he's a wily base stealer, but his snap base running decisions are generally wanting.

[Amy]

Close eye on his cup?

The Rockies broadcast showed a super slo-mo replay, I keep waiting for the glove to actually touch Loretta and it went right for the cup.  If Huson thinks that's Loretta's knee, he's gotta some splaining to do.

[pravata]

That's interesting, because he's a wily base stealer, but his snap base running decisions are generally wanting.

Yeah he's wily.  If you think the catcher going "what the FUCK!" is wily.

[gwat]

Carlos Lee is a shitty baserunner.

That shittiness is multidimensional. Slow first, then lazy, bad decisions, fucked up 3rd base coach. How does the MF ever score?
Oh yeah, an occasional 4 bagger.

[HudsonHawk]

That's interesting, because he's a wily base stealer, but his snap base running decisions are generally wanting.

That's not really a snap decision.  The general rule is, you don't stand at 3B and watch an inning-ending double play.  You should know that when it's hit.

[Noe]

Close eye on his cup? NTTAWWT

He's finally matched his meat. You really licked his ass.

That's *met* his match and kicked... *kicked* his ass...

[pravata]

That's not really a snap decision.  The general rule is, you don't stand at 3B and watch an inning-ending double play.  You should know that when it's hit.

I kinda sympathize here.  Going to 2nd to try for the tag was a risky move.  The normal play is for Helton to go to the bag and look home.

[Gleek]

Yeah he's wily.  If you think the catcher going "what the FUCK!" is wily.

Yeah, he steals bases on his "FAT ASS" potential (or lack there of) alone.

[Noe]

Wow, that was a very interesting fly ball to center that wound up in dead right field.

[homer]

Bidge takin a nap out there?

[austro]

I kinda sympathize here.  Going to 2nd to try for the tag was a risky move.  The normal play is for Helton to go to the bag and look home.

I think he was looking home as he went to the bag, and when he saw that Lee wasn't going anywhere he decided to try for the out at 2nd.

[HudsonHawk]

Wow, the ol' delayed steal.  Don't see that too much anymore.  Well executed.

[Noe]

Bidge takin a nap out there?

Not really, it is your typical delay steal play.  Props to Atkins for doing it perfectly.

[pravata]

I think he was looking home as he went to the bag, and when he saw that Lee wasn't going anywhere he decided to try for the out at 2nd.

Helton is a very good 1b. 

[homer]

I think he was looking home as he went to the bag, and when he saw that Lee wasn't going anywhere he decided to try for the out at 2nd.

Well, Lee did his normal shit where he completely turns his body around and kinda shuffles with his head down back to the bag.

Piss. Poor.

[HudsonHawk]

Bidge takin a nap out there?

Not necessarily.  Well executed delayed steal.

[T. J.]

Not really, it is your typical delay steal play.  Props to Atkins for doing it perfectly.

Great, great execution.  I just watched it three times on DVR.  Perfectly done.  Throw was perfectly at the corner of the bag, but nobody was there.

[Amy]

WTF??  I thought Ausmus had him and he just dropped the ball.

Oops, nevermind.  I didn't see it bounce.

[remy]

Woody's fading.

[pravata]

Hunter's throw beat the runner by 3 steps.  Brad just boxed that one.

[gwat]

Pence's screwball was just a little bit outside.

[Bench]

Yeah he's wily.  If you think the catcher going "what the FUCK!" is wily.

Nah, he steals bases off pitchers and does it quite a bit for big slow guy. I agree with Hudson, though, he should of been running on a ground ball to the right side in that situation.

Man, some old-timey baseball paying dividends for the Rox this inning.

[T. J.]

WTF??  I thought Ausmus had him and he just dropped the ball.

Tough shorthop to the right of the plate. 

[Noe]

So this is how Woody gets his arse kicked at Coors, eh?  Can't stop the bleeding after two outs.

[Gleek]

Well, Lee did his normal shit where he completely turns his body around and kinda shuffles with his head down back to the bag.

Piss. Poor.

Agreed

[HudsonHawk]

Hunter's throw beat the runner by 3 steps.  Brad just boxed that one.

Ball was offline.  No way it gets him, even if Brad fields it cleanly.

[remy]

Now this is the Coors Field I'm famliar with.

[Twoniner]

  When the Astros have taken the lead how often have they given it back up the next 1/2 inning?  They've gotta be over 50% this season.

[pravata]

Ball was offline.  No way it gets him, even if Brad fields it cleanly.

Scoop it and dive to his left, creating a thumping collison?

[Noe]

Woody needs divine intervention right now... like a magical Pence play that secures the final out in spite of Woody's inability to put away a hitter with two strikes and two outs.

[Bench]

 When the Astros have taken the lead how often have they given it back up the next 1/2 inning?  They've gotta be over 50% this season.

Kinda like how when a guy makes a great play in the field to end an inning he ALWAYS leads off the next one.

[HudsonHawk]

Scoop it and dive to his left, creating a thumping collison?

Or maybe get your head stepped on.  I didn't think he had a shot with the throw that far off.

[Gleek]

Hunter's throw beat the runner by 3 steps.  Brad just boxed that one.

Brad, box...  There has to be a joke in there somewhere.

[T. J.]

Maybe if this baseball thing doesn't work out for Holliday, he can go back and play quarterback for my alma mater.

[remy]

where's rapuano when you need him

[Noe]

Kinda like how when a guy makes a great play in the field to end an inning he ALWAYS leads off the next one.

I think it's more like "Oops, I forgot... this is Coors Field and that's Woody Williams out there!"

[gwat]

Maybe if this baseball thing doesn't work out for Holliday, he can go back and play quarterback for my alma mater.

Ask his agent, baseball is working out.

[Bench]

in spite of Woody's inability to put away a hitter with two strikes and two outs.

Dammit, my maign. Stop being insightful!

[homer]

WHAT?! First pitch in there to Helton was a fucking strike.

[remy]

Whew... c'mon offense, job ain't done yet!

[Bench]

Man, Carlos made sure he watched that one into his mitt (not the Mormon one).

[Noe]

"HELP ME JENNIFER LOVE HEWITT!!!" .... (pssst... did Woody just get Helton to fly out to medium left field?  I don't know, I had my hands covering my eyeballs when he swung the bat)

[Bench]

Whew... c'mon offense, job ain't done yet!

If I drank Coors I'd....

never mind. That crap is swill.

[MusicMan]

WTF was that?!?!

[Noe]

Okay, we just got the answer to whether warnings were issued before the game. No, no they were not.

[MusicMan]

Whew... thought we'd see the old 9-3 there.

[MusicMan]

Okay, we just got the answer to whether warnings were issued before the game. No, no they were not.

You're trying to apply logic to CB Bucknor.  That's a losing proposition.

[remy]

Jeez... biggio down to .227.

[Alkie]

Sorry, I just got here and I'm not about to read the whole thread first....Berkman has been suspended.  Watson will announce for-how-long tomorrow.

[remy]

Jeez... biggio down to .227.

I knew it would work!

[gwat]

The Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead.
[a man puts a body on the cart]
Large Man with Woody: Here's one.
The Dead Collector: That'll be ninepence.
Woody Claims he Isn't: I'm not dead.
The Dead Collector: What?
Large Man with Woody: Nothing. There's your ninepence.
Woody: I'm not dead.
The Dead Collector: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.
Large Man with Woody: Yes he is.
Woody Claims he Isn't: I'm not.

[Amy]

Huson was wondering if Gar would make Pence sac bunt.  Fuck that, he's one of like three guys on this team that can hit the fucking ball with regularity.

[Gleek]

ALL CAPS!!! comes through!!!

[Noe]

Sorry, I just got here and I'm not about to read the whole thread first....Berkman has been suspended.  Watson will announce for-how-long tomorrow.

The "how long" has been the thing in question.  I think we all kinda figured Puma was going to get some vacation time.

[pravata]

Sorry, I just got here and I'm not about to read the whole thread first....Berkman has been suspended.  Watson will announce for-how-long tomorrow.

Hadnt seen it, "there will be consequences."  http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2895948

[remy]

Sorry, I just got here and I'm not about to read the whole thread first....Berkman has been suspended.  Watson will announce for-how-long tomorrow.

That's kind of silly to announce he's "going to be suspended" before you actually make up your mind about the details of the punishment.  Anyhow, I'm guessing 2 games.  1 for throwing the bag, 1 for coming back onto the field.

[homer]

Hadnt seen it, "there will be consequences."  http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2895948

Good to see the Chronicle is all over that.

[pravata]

Huson was wondering if Gar would make Pence sac bunt.  Fuck that, he's one of like three guys on this team that can hit the fucking ball with regularity.

Huson's a lazy bastard who shouldnt have a job in baseball if thats what he wondered.

[Noe]

Hadnt seen it, "there will be consequences."  http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2895948

He can appeal of course and get the sentenced lowered by at least a day.  I fully expect him to do so.

[pravata]

That's kind of silly to announce he's "going to be suspended" before you actually make up your mind about the details of the punishment.  Anyhow, I'm guessing 2 games.  1 for throwing the bag, 1 for coming back onto the field.

I'll say 3, he appeals gets it down to 2 but serves it when he's getting hot.

[Noe]

I'll say 3, he appeals gets it down to 2 but serves it when he's getting hot.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

[Amy]

Huson's a lazy bastard who shouldnt have a job in baseball if thats what he wondered.

Between that and not knowing the difference between a guy's knee and his crotch, I'd have to agree he's not the brightest bulb.

[homer]

I'll say 3, he appeals gets it down to 2 but serves it when he's getting hot.

I thought you didn't make predictions.

[austro]

Hadnt seen it, "there will be consequences."  http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2895948

How about some consequences for umpires who mistakenly believe themselves to be part of the show?

[pravata]

Now Woody could be lifted at any time this inning.  Just because he hit doesnt mean anything.  Garner probably considered him as good an option as any for a ph ab in the 5th.

[Noe]

How about some consequences for umpires who mistakenly believe themselves to be part of the show?

"What?  You mean I can fire their asses?" - Sandy Alderson

"Aw, shit!" - Charlie Williams

[pravata]

How about some consequences for umpires who mistakenly believe themselves to be part of the show?

Oh certainly.  And the suspension could be delivered in a coach made of a walnut pulled by fireflies.

[pravata]

I thought you didn't make predictions.

Real ones, no.  Wild assed guesses, sometimes. Plus I was being cynical, so it doesnt count.

[Gleek]

Ding! Ding! Ding!

No doubt, this is what will happen... <sigh>

[homer]

How about some consequences for umpires who mistakenly believe themselves to be part of the show?

The Crawford thing was egregious, and not his first time... and its sad to think that is the level of slapdickery required to get an official out of a league.

[remy]

WW now qualified for the win.  Wow.  I didn't see that one coming half an hour ago.

[gwat]

Beautiful inning, Woody.

[Noe]

Now Woody could be lifted at any time this inning.  Just because he hit doesnt mean anything.  Garner probably considered him as good an option as any for a ph ab in the 5th.

Given Woody's history at Coors and he is in line for the win... maybe he agrees with you.

[Gleek]

WW now qualified for the win.  Wow.  I didn't see that one coming half an hour ago.

No shit, I hope this DREAM comes true for him.

[Noe]

Come on Luke, be the man here... I can feel it.

[Gleek]

LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!    SHITFUCK!!!

[homer]

HOW THE FUCK WAS THE 3-1 A STRIKE?

[Noe]

Come on Luke, be the man here... I can feel it.

Good to see my jinxosity powers are still intact.  That will show me to STFU!

[gwat]

Bullshit 2nd strike.

[MusicMan]

HOW THE FUCK WAS THE 3-1 A STRIKE?

Was this rhetorical?  Because "CB Bucknor" is certainly the correct answer.

[EasTexAstro]

HOW THE FUCK WAS THE 3-1 A STRIKE?

As far as I can tell, the ump is making it up as the game goes along.

Not saying he is unfair, but I'm certainly unsure of the strike zone form pitch to pitch.

[T. J.]

Was this rhetorical?  Because "CB Bucknor" is certainly the correct answer.

Meh.  As much as I would like to blame that on crap with feet, I rewound it and it was close.  No argument here.

[Bench]

As far as I can tell, the ump is making it up as the game goes along.

Not saying he is unfair, but I'm certainly unsure of the strike zone form pitch to pitch.

Unfair? He's CB fuckin' Bucknor. Fair doesn't come into it at all.

[MusicMan]

Not so much "unfair" as "incompetent and embarassing".

[Amy]

As far as I can tell, the ump is making it up as the game goes along.

Not saying he is unfair, but I'm certainly unsure of the strike zone form pitch to pitch.

That's pretty much standard operating procedure for Bucknor, isn't it?

[Noe]

As far as I can tell, the ump is making it up as the game goes along.

Not saying he is unfair, but I'm certainly unsure of the strike zone form pitch to pitch.

He certainly proved it on the 3-1.  But I was hoping Luke was green lighted on 3-0.  It was a very hittable ball and since you have Everett and Ausmus behind you, come on... let it fly!

[homer]

Meh.  As much as I would like to blame that on crap with feet, I rewound it and it was close.  No argument here.

Close to what? Below the letters? Sure. What he has been calling all night? Not close.

[Gleek]

Good to see my jinxosity powers are still intact.  That will show me to STFU!

Nah, just start to bad mouth 'em when their up.  Negative reinforcement=Positive results... works for me.

[gwat]

Not so much "unfair" as "incompetent and embarassing".

And as usual, we get fucked.

[remy]

great play by Lewinski but wowwwww Ausmus is slow!

[MusicMan]

That was one hell of a play by Tulowitzki.  Everett-caliber SS in that instance.

[T. J.]

Beauty of a play on both ends.

[Noe]

Is it just me, or has Brad Ausmus turned into a catcher running down the first base line?

[HudsonHawk]

Ausmus needs to unhook that bass boat he's draggin.

[homer]

Is it just me, or has Brad Ausmus turned into a catcher running down the first base line?

He has lost a step or two.

[EasTexAstro]

He certainly proved it on the 3-1.  But I was hoping Luke was green lighted on 3-0.  It was a very hittable ball and since you have Everett and Ausmus behind you, come on... let it fly!

Yeah. I'm not sharp enough to call thatm but I was thinking it. After 7 balls in a row, I figured it was not unusual to take.

[gwat]

great play by Lewinski but wowwwww Ausmus is slow!

Bad night to be sporting the 4 lb Prince Albert.

[EasTexAstro]

Beauty of a play on both ends.

yup.

[Noe]

Yeah. I'm not sharp enough to call thatm but I was thinking it. After 7 balls in a row, I figured it was not unusual to take.

I guess if you're going to pinch hit for Everett or Ausmus or Woody, then yeah... take a pitch or two.  But the best pitch he got (and Luke Scott is a run producer who can really drive a ball) was the 3-0.  I make him swing and take my chances.

[homer]

Thanks Lance. Glad you were in that meeting.

[MusicMan]

Holy shit, Berkman.  You've got to be kidding me.  Get your fucking head in the fucking game.

[EasTexAstro]

I guess if you're going to pinch hit for Everett or Ausmus or Woody, then yeah... take a pitch or two.  But the best pitch he got (and Luke Scott is a run producer who can really drive a ball) was the 3-0.  I make him swing and take my chances.

Great point...I'm trying to learn.

[pravata]

Did Woody say "What are you doing?"

[Noe]

That was sooooo Lance Berkman!

[homer]

A little return from CB on the first pitch to Willy.

[JackAstro]

Oh fuck yeah

[pravata]

Ole!

[MusicMan]

You mess with El Caballo, you get the horns, son.

[homer]

That was such fucking greatness. Perfection.

[Amy]

I thought Lee gave it up on the hesitation to throw.  Nice play by Ausmus.

[EasTexAstro]

Thanks Lance. Glad you were in that meeting.

Help me out here, please....

(great play by Lee-Ausmus in the meantime)

Woody can't step off and look at first if the 1st baseman is moving?

[Noe]

Did Woody say "What are you doing?"

I thought I read his lips say "What the fuck are you doing?" while looking over to third base. Then I think he said something like "bullshit!" to end it.

[remy]

That was very fortunate.

[Bench]

You mess with El Caballo, you get the horns, son.

That's one fucked up looking centaur your painting.

[Noe]

Help me out here, please....

(great play by Lee-Ausmus in the meantime)

Woody can't step off and look at first if the 1st baseman is moving?

Yes he can.

[EasTexAstro]

Yes he can.

Then what happened?

[pravata]

I thought I read his lips say "What the fuck are you doing?" while looking over to third base. Then I think he said something like "bullshit!" to end it.

Who's he talking to though?  El Vendo, on a short leash, is standing over by 1st with his glove on his head.

[Bench]

Yes he can.

Step off, si. Just look off the stripe, no.

[HudsonHawk]

I thought Lee gave it up on the hesitation to throw.  Nice play by Ausmus.

It was a poor play by Ausmus.  He's lucky he didn't fuck that up and got the out.  Ausmus is such a puss.  I hate that about him.

[gwat]

File it under "All's well that ends well".

[MusicMan]

Help me out here, please....

(great play by Lee-Ausmus in the meantime)

Woody can't step off and look at first if the 1st baseman is moving?

Berkman had left the bag uncovered.  A move to an uncovered 1b is a balk.

[EasTexAstro]

Berkman had left the bag uncovered.  A move to an uncovered 1b is a balk.

Did not know that. Thanks.

[pravata]

It was a poor play by Ausmus.  He's lucky he didn't fuck that up and got the out.  Ausmus is such a puss.  I hate that about him.

The veronica.

[EasTexAstro]

Nice catch by Hawpe.

[JackAstro]

You mess with El Caballo, you get the horns, son.

http://www.plaintivewail.com/uploaded_images/vernon-782587.jpg

[Bench]

Berkman had left the bag uncovered.  A move to an uncovered 1b is a balk.

That's what I was getting at. You can't fake to first.

[HudsonHawk]

Help me out here, please....

(great play by Lee-Ausmus in the meantime)

Woody can't step off and look at first if the 1st baseman is moving?

Whether he's moving or not, you have to throw to 1B.  Woody turned to throw and there was no one on the bag. 

[Noe]

Then what happened?

You step off, it is intended to drive the runner *back* to the bag (mainly because you don't like the large lead).  You can hold on to the ball in such a case.

You don't step off, you're actually trying to pick him off.  Woody opted to pick him off and get an out that way.  Instead, Lance forgot to wait and took off for homeplate while Woody was trying to pick off the man.

[homer]

That's what I was getting at. You can't fake to first.

You can't fake to an uncovered base.

Unless you are doing the lame 3rd to 1st move, which doesn't make any sense.

[pravata]

You can't fake to an uncovered base.

Unless you are doing the lame 3rd to 1st move, which doesn't make any sense.

But 2nd too though?

[Bench]

You can't fake to an uncovered base.

Unless you are doing the lame 3rd to 1st move, which doesn't make any sense.

Yep.

[HudsonHawk]

You can't fake to an uncovered base.

Unless you are doing the lame 3rd to 1st move, which doesn't make any sense.

Yes you can.  You just can't fake to 1B.

[Bench]

Time to see which version of the recent pen we get tonight.

[gwat]

http://www.plaintivewail.com/uploaded_images/vernon-782587.jpg

The mythical "2-horned" caballo.

[JackAstro]

I thought I read his lips say "What the fuck are you doing?" while looking over to third base. Then I think he said something like "bullshit!" to end it.

Rewound it to watch again... I'm no lip reader, but it looked like "What were you doing? (long pause, shaking head) OK, here we go. Don't worry about it... (turns away)"

[T. J.]

Fook, that was a SHOT by Prince Fielder in that replay of the Cubs/Brewers game.  Dead center and still accelerating.

[remy]

I can't believe Woody is pitching into the 7th inning at Coors.

[EasTexAstro]

Whether he's moving or not, you have to throw to 1B.  Woody turned to throw and there was no one on the bag. 

Not urguing the call then...

It seems odd that he can't step off the rubber in that situation. Had he not liked the pitch call by Ausmus and stepped off the rubber while Berkman went to check out the shiny object along the baseline....

OK, maybe, since the runner could take off when he saw Lance wandering....

Still....

[Noe]

That's what I was getting at. You can't fake to first.

You can *IF* you step off.  But that is not the way to pick off a runner.  The step off and hold the ball was a way the Boston RedSox had mastered to hold a runner closer to the bag and help their weak armed catcher actually keep the running game from beating them.  The intention of the step off and not throw is merely to make the runner step back to the bag because the lead is too large.

When Jimy Williams came to Houston, he implemented that for the pitchers here and they did that quite often.

[Bench]

Well I'm surprised. I figured this would be Revert's inning.

[Amy]

That's what Gar gets for pressing his luck.

[Bench]

Well I'm surprised. I figured this would be Revert's inning.

And that is why.

[MusicMan]

I can't believe Woody is pitching into the 7th inning at Coors.

If Kaz Matsui is taking you upper tank, it might be time to call it a night.

Oops... he just did.

[homer]

Yes you can.  You just can't fake to 1B.

You're right.

[remy]

Here we go.

[Anit]

woody tossed

[MusicMan]

What is Ausmus pointing at???

[Bench]

The fuck?

[T. J.]

Oh, you gotta be fuckin' kiddin' me.  C.B. is a fucking asshole.

[Amy]

Oh good.  Now Bradley's trying to get thrown out too.

[HudsonHawk]

Not urguing the call then...

It seems odd that he can't step off the rubber in that situation. Had he not liked the pitch call by Ausmus and stepped off the rubber while Berkman went to check out the shiny object along the baseline....

OK, maybe, since the runner could take off when he saw Lance wandering....

Still....

He didn't step off.  He turned to throw and didn't follow through. 

[Noe]

Not urguing the call then...

It seems odd that he can't step off the rubber in that situation.

He can.

[Anit]

ball didnt hit him..

[MusicMan]

Is Ausmus claiming the ball didn't hit him?

[Amy]

It looked like Ausmus was arguing that he leaned back into the pitch.

[remy]

Can't believe it took nearly 7 innings for CB to fuck this game up.

[Bench]

What is Ausmus pointing at???

The ball didn't hit him. Ausmus caught it behind him (which is nuts itself).

[homer]

It looked like Ausmus was arguing that he leaned back into the pitch.

Ball didn't hit him.

[pravata]

Can't believe it took nearly 7 innings for CB to fuck this game up.

I like how all the other umpires are trying to explain Buckner.  If there was no warning how is Williams ejected.

[MusicMan]

Shit, let reverT REALLY hit Helton with one if Buckno's going to pull this candyassed shit.

[EasTexAstro]

He didn't step off.  He turned to throw and didn't follow through. 

OK, missed that. Thanks for the clarification.

[T. J.]

Not even CLOSE to hitting him.

[Noe]

He didn't step off.  He turned to throw and didn't follow through. 

ETA is asking if "he could" step off, not that he did it.  He can certainly step off and hold the ball.  But that is not intended to pick off a runner, that is intended to push him back.  But the actual play was a pickoff play in which case you never step off, you turn and throw to first and you must throw the ball no matter what at that point.

[MusicMan]

Buckner isn't an embarassment to umpiring - he's an embarassment to mammals.  Yes, dolphins too.

[Gleek]

It was a poor play by Ausmus.  He's lucky he didn't fuck that up and got the out.  Ausmus is such a puss.  I hate that about him.

Amen, brother

[Matt]

The Colorado broadcast doesn't seem to know it didn't come close to hitting him.

[EasTexAstro]

ETA is asking if "he could" step off, not that he did it.  He can certainly step off and hold the ball.  But that is not intended to pick off a runner, that is intended to push him back.  But the actual play was a pickoff play in which case you never step off, you turn and throw to first and you must throw the ball no matter what at that point.

Thank you, Noe. That is exactly where I was confused.

[pravata]

The Colorado broadcast doesn't seem to know it didn't come close to hitting him.

The Colorado broadcast cant tell their dick from their knee.

[homer]

The Colorado broadcast doesn't seem to know it didn't come close to hitting him.

We already established they shouldn't have a job in baseball.

[Bench]

Fucking Everett. Can't hit for shit.

[MusicMan]

The Colorado broadcast cant tell their dick from their knee.

Bucknor is broadcasting for Colorado?

And holy crap, nice stop by Everett.  Palilo can kiss my ass.

[Amy]

The Colorado broadcast cant tell their dick from their knee.

This is true.  And they pretty much missed showing the "HBP" the first time around because they were showing super-super-slo-mo of Matsui's swing on the HR.

[Noe]

I think Garner was also pointing out to Bucknor that Woody had to eat dirt on an inside pitch and nothing was said or done.  Bucknor is crap with feet.

[HudsonHawk]

The Colorado broadcast doesn't seem to know it didn't come close to hitting him.

Looked to me like it might have brushed his jersey.

[remy]

Buckner isn't an embarassment to umpiring - he's an embarassment to mammals.  Yes, dolphins too.

But he kinda looks like a turtle, so we gotta throw reptiles in there too.

[T. J.]

Ok, I just watched it three times in slo-mo, and I've gotta retract my statement.  I think it may have barely nicked his uniform.  The ball seemed to slightly change direction.  Still, a bullshit cocksucking call to eject Woody.

[MusicMan]

I love how Fox Sports Net just randomly changes their graphics in midseason.  Like clockwork, every year.

[EasTexAstro]

Nice play by AE, but I think Biggio deserves a little star for not trying the DP there, too. Good place to just secure the solid out at second without doing too much.

[MusicMan]

But he kinda looks like a turtle, so we gotta throw reptiles in there too.

And we've established that hhe's spineless, so invertebrates are offended as well.

Shit, what phylum does "crap with feet" fall into?

[pravata]

Ok, I just watched it three times in slo-mo, and I've gotta retract my statement.  I think it may have barely nicked his uniform.  The ball seemed to slightly change direction.  Still, a bullshit cocksucking call to eject Woody.

With Ausmus flashing in front of him to catch it, Buckner no way sees that.

[MusicMan]

Umm, Craig?  What the fuck was that?

[HudsonHawk]

Still, a bullshit cocksucking call to eject Woody.

People would be busting a vein if that had been the other way around and the Rockie pitcher not ejected.

[Noe]

FUCK!

[Navin R Johnson]

tmiller is ordinary.

[remy]

Nice job there Trever.

[Bench]

And we've established that hhe's spineless, so invertebrates are offended as well.

Shit, what phylum does "crap with feet" fall into?

Seebias Bucknerians.

[Gleek]

But he kinda looks like a turtle, so we gotta throw reptiles in there too.

PLEASE, lets not forget about the Amphibians!!  They deserve our respect as well.

[MusicMan]

People would be busting a vein if that had been the other way around and the Rockie pitcher not ejected.

You mean like how Woody took one right under the chin and there was not even a warning?

[Bench]

FUCK!

Doublefuck.

[EasTexAstro]

FUCK!

I expect more words from you on a post.

[Noe]

People would be busting a vein if that had been the other way around and the Rockie pitcher not ejected.

I thought a warning should've been issued when Woody ate dirt.  But what Bucknor did was use his pea-brain and come to this conclusion: Woody just allowed a homerun, so the next hitter he hits... damn, he's throwing at people... I have to do something.  "YOU'RE GONE!"

The problem is, Bucknor using his brain is dangerous.

[homer]

You mean like how Woody took one right under the chin and there was not even a warning?

Applying logic to CB is a losing proposition.

[Bench]

I expect more words from you on a post.

I thought we didn't actually want his personal opinions?

[Noe]

I expect more words from you on a post.

SHIT!

[HudsonHawk]

You mean like how Woody took one right under the chin and there was not even a warning?

Irrelevant.  Woody was clearly throwing at the guy.  He deserved to get tossed and deserves whatever happens next.  It was a chickenshit thing to do.  Nothing good can come from it.

[Amy]

Shitfuck.

[MusicMan]

This game has fallen apart completely.

[remy]

It feels like forever since we had back to back wins.

[EasTexAstro]

Applying logic to CB is a losing proposition.

"you are the worst pirate I have ever heard of"

"but you have heard of me"

[Noe]

Irrelevant.  Woody was clearly throwing at the guy.  He deserved to get tossed and deserves whatever happens next.  It was a chickenshit thing to do.  Nothing good can come from it.

Cook threw at Woody after he started a three run rally the inning before.  How is that different?

[Gleek]

Irrelevant.  Woody was clearly throwing at the guy.  He deserved to get tossed and deserves whatever happens next.  It was a chickenshit thing to do.  Nothing good can come from it.

Yes, but you still owe him a mustache ride for all his trouble.

[HudsonHawk]

Cook threw at Woody after he started a three run rally the inning before.  How is that different?

Cook didn't throw at Woody.  Woody CLEARLY was throwing at whoever that guy was.

[MusicMan]

I'm pretty close to turning this shit off.

[remy]

Alright Willy, go ahead at get #1 of the year and put us out of our misery.

[MusicMan]

Cook didn't throw at Woody. 

My ass.

[Noe]

Okay, is there any sort of logic in Bucknor at all?  BTW - the more important question, is there a double play in that arm of Qualls tonight?  His sinker ain't sinking tonight.

[Noe]

Cook didn't throw at Woody.  Woody CLEARLY was throwing at whoever that guy was.

Ahum, yes he did.  Sat him down.  Woody even gave Cook a stare.

[HudsonHawk]

My ass.

You're being a ridiculous homer here.

[EasTexAstro]

I'm pretty close to turning this shit off.

Yup.

[homer]

Okay, is there any sort of logic in Bucknor at all?  BTW - the more important question, is there a double play in that arm of Qualls tonight?  His sinker ain't sinking tonight.

Willy running. Better be sharp.

Infield in, nevermind.

[homer]

You're being a ridiculous homer here.

Leave me out of this.

[Noe]

You're being a ridiculous homer here.

Ahum, no... I thought Bucknor was correct not to interfere with Cook.  How he decided to come out of his R.E.M. sleep on Woody *because* a homerun was hit is amazing.  He needs to decide to control a game much earlier than waiting for a retribution on a homerun.  He needs to establish he is not taking any sort of shit from anyone tonight.

Issue a fucking warning when Cook knocks Woody down... not throw him out.  Then Woody knows he is fucking history if he pulls that shit.  As is, it looks damn arbitrary on Bucknor and that is pretty much par for the course with this idiot of an umpire.  That is the problem... the umpire is so fucking inconsistent and bad, anything can happen with him in the game.

Any thing!

[Gleek]

Willy running. Better be sharp.

Infield in, nevermind.

Willy just really wants a mustache ride...  He told me so. (I just don't sport a mustace at the moment, so i'll gladly let one of you guys fill in...)

[HudsonHawk]

Ahum, no... I thought Bucknor was correct not to interfere with Cook.  How he decided to come out of his R.E.M. sleep on Woody *because* a homerun was hit is amazing.  He needs to decide to control a game much earlier than waiting for a retribution on a homerun.  He needs to establish he is not taking any sort of shit from anyone tonight.

Issue a fucking warning when Cook knocks Woody down... not throw him out.  Then Woody knows he is fucking history if he pulls that shit.  As is, it looks damn arbitrary on Bucknor and that is pretty much par for the course with this idiot of an umpire.  That is the problem... the umpire is so fucking inconsistent and bad, anything can happen with him in the game.

Any thing!

This is ridiculous.  It wasn't arbitrary in the least.  Matzui takes Woody to the upper deck, then Woody threw the next pitch EXACTLY where he wanted it, right behind a guy's ass.  He deserve's getting tossed and on the hook for the loss.  It was total chickenshit by Woody.  If the shoe was on the other foot, you'd be saying the same thing.

[homer]

Willy just really wants a mustache ride...  He told me so. (I just don't sport a mustace at the moment, so i'll gladly let one of you guys fill in...)

Two things: 1) why are you offering mustache rides to other men? 2) why are you offering when you don't actually have a mustache?

NTTAWWT

[remy]

We can beat LaLugie Hawking.  Not saying we will, but we can.

[HudsonHawk]

Willy just really wants a mustache ride...  He told me so. (I just don't sport a mustace at the moment, so i'll gladly let one of you guys fill in...)

You looking to get bitchslapped?

[Noe]

THAT was a beautiful swing.  Nice going Lance!

[Amy]

Now THAT's the Twinkie we know and love!

[Anit]

twinkie goes deep

crowd..semi-erupts?

[pravata]

alright, UNTIL the consequences are paid, Lance the Dumbass will be hitting homeruns.

[gwat]

Berkman IS getting hot just prior to his inevitable suspension.

[homer]

JD - 'Vintage Berkman'

[HudsonHawk]

THAT was a beautiful swing.  Nice going Lance!

You know Lance is in a groove when he drives that ball into the off-field gap like that.

[EasTexAstro]

This is ridiculous.  It wasn't arbitrary in the least.  Matzui takes Woody to the upper deck, then Woody threw the next pitch EXACTLY where he wanted it, right behind a guy's ass.  He deserve's getting tossed and on the hook for the loss.  It was total chickenshit by Woody.  If the shoe was on the other foot, you'd be saying the same thing.

Yeah, what he said.

[pravata]

You know Lance is in a groove when he drives that ball into the off-field gap like that.

That's like the groove pop up timer.

[Noe]

This is ridiculous.

You seem to think I'm saying Woody doesn't deserve to be tossed?

It wasn't arbitrary in the least.

When Cook gives up three runs, shows digust trying to secure the third out and then the next inning throws one over the head of the pitcher who started the rally with a single, an umpire should decide if he wants to stop any shit from anybody.  Issue a warning.

Bucknor sat on his hands and we mentioned it at that very moment.  It was apparent he wasn't going to do anything about warnings and such.

Matzui takes Woody to the upper deck, then Woody threw the next pitch EXACTLY where he wanted it, right behind a guy's ass.  He deserve's getting tossed and on the hook for the loss.  It was total chickenshit by Woody.  If the shoe was on the other foot, you'd be saying the same thing.

About Bucknor?  Yes, I would be saying the same thing.  I'm saying Bucknor is a chickenshit, not that Woody is innocent. 

[EasTexAstro]

Great shot of Luke's snot flying free...

[remy]

Gonna take more than that, boys.


I swear to god, if Garner lets Ausmus and/or Everett bat the ninth I will throw something.

[Noe]

You know Lance is in a groove when he drives that ball into the off-field gap like that.

Yup.  Lance hitting a ball hard like that to left centerfield is vintage Lance Berkman.  That was a thing of beauty to watch and something I've been waiting to see of a while.  *whew*!

[pravata]

Gonna take more than that, boys.


I swear to god, if Garner lets Ausmus and/or Everett bat the ninth I will throw something.

Here we have documented evidence of blaming Ausmus and Everett because the guys who are paid to hit cant hit.

[pravata]

This is ridiculous.  It wasn't arbitrary in the least.  Matzui takes Woody to the upper deck, then Woody threw the next pitch EXACTLY where he wanted it, right behind a guy's ass.  He deserve's getting tossed and on the hook for the loss.  It was total chickenshit by Woody.  If the shoe was on the other foot, you'd be saying the same thing.

Does a pitcher get tossed for throwing near a batter?  Because there is no way that Buckner saw the batter being hit.

[homer]

Brownie on the up and in to Holliday from Lidge - 'That didn't hit him either.'

[Noe]

THAT was the same pitch thrown at Woody, so Bucknor is consistent at least.  He didn't do anything to Lidge.  He seems resigned to allow more emotions to run wild and I think he's wrong.  Forget Woody, I just think Bucknor is going to lose control of this game if he does not establish he's in fucking control beyond being stupid.

[EasTexAstro]

Yup.  Lance hitting a ball hard like that to left centerfield is vintage Lance Berkman.  That was a thing of beauty to watch and something I've been waiting to see of a while.  *whew*!

....and when Lance is hitting well, the lineup should be producing,

Sadly, I would expect the pitching staff to be able to do something more positive when given 6 runs.

[pravata]

....and when Lance is hitting well, the lineup should be producing,

Sadly, I would expect the pitching staff to be able to do something more positive when given 6 runs.

Puts a lot of pressure on the hitters when the pitchers are giving up so many runs.

[EasTexAstro]

Puts a lot of pressure on the hitters when the pitchers are giving up so many runs.

yup

[homer]

Puts a lot of pressure on the hitters when the pitchers are giving up so many runs.

Ouch.

[gwat]

No mas, por favor.

[HudsonHawk]

You seem to think I'm saying Woody doesn't deserve to be tossed?

Well, if you're not complaining about Bucknor tossing Woody, I'm not sure what your gripe is.

[Noe]

Does a pitcher get tossed for throwing near a batter?  Because there is no way that Buckner saw the batter being hit.

Yes, an umpire can make a determination that a hitter was purposely being thrown at and can also toss a pitcher without a warning.  My complaint is that Bucknor could've used more control of the game earlier when Cook threw at Woody and sent the wrong message to some folks.  Woody has no business throwing at anyone, but neither did Cook after his meltdown inning.

[Gleek]

Two things: 1) why are you offering mustache rides to other men? 2) why are you offering when you don't actually have a mustache?

NTTAWWT

My Maign, I most certainly was'nt offering.  However, I was going to leave the door open for some of our more "creative" posters (with mustaches of course) and more power to 'em, if they can turn Wandy around....   Well then they've done HERPES a hugh favor.

[Noe]

Well, if you're not complaining about Bucknor tossing Woody, I'm not sure what your gripe is.

That Bucknor is crap with feet?

[Noe]

Nice job Lidge!

[Noe]

BTW - Roy Oswalt, who throws inside a lot and will hit people on occasion, goes tomorrow.  Thank you C.B. Bucknor.  Thank you Corpas.  Thank you Woody Williams.

You just took a little bit of Roy's game away from him.

[Noe]

Congratulations MoBerg, welcome to your new home... right there on the bench, where it's marked "reserved for the right handed power hitter off the bench".

[EasTexAstro]

Congratulations MoBerg, welcome to your new home... right there on the bench, where it's marked "reserved for the right handed power hitter off the bench".

yup....

[Gleek]

Congratulations MoBerg, welcome to your new home... right there on the bench, where it's marked "reserved for the right handed power hitter off the bench".

NO SHIT!!

[Gleek]

SHITFUCK!!!!, this team sucks

[remy]

tough, tough game to lose.

Gotta hope Roy can get us a series win tomorrow.

[Noe]

That kid loves to show off the arm... that's for sure.  Oh well, go get 'em tomorrow.

[Twoniner]

Mission accomplished.  We got Biggio his extra AB by leading him off.   

[homer]

SHITFUCK!!!!, this team sucks

fuck off frontrunner.

[Gleek]

SHITFUCK!!!!, this team sucks

ALLRIGHT, FREE MUSTACHE RIDES FOR EVERYONE, COURTESY OF ANYONE WITH A MUSTACHE!!

[HudsonHawk]

My Maign, I most certainly was'nt offering.  However, I was going to leave the door open for some of our more "creative" posters (with mustaches of course) and more power to 'em, if they can turn Wandy around....   Well then they've done HERPES a hugh favor.

Your last warning.

[pravata]

That kid loves to show off the arm... that's for sure.  Oh well, go get 'em tomorrow.

Hides the ball well behind his back.  They needed to try somebody besides Monica in that last inning.

[gwat]

ALLRIGHT, FREE MUSTACHE RIDES FOR EVERYONE, COURTESY OF ANYONE WITH A MUSTACHE!!

Allright Punkin, time to get off of the computer now. Go ask mommy to finish her drink cause its time for your tuck-in.

[HudsonHawk]

ALLRIGHT, FREE MUSTACHE RIDES FOR EVERYONE, COURTESY OF ANYONE WITH A MUSTACHE!!

Hit the pine, son.