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ALCS game 4
« on: October 19, 2010, 07:41:16 pm »
RF umpire really covering himself in glory in this inning. Blows the fan interference call and then calls Pumas foul ball a HR.
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 07:47:08 pm »
I don't understand why they wouldn't review that fan interference call. I don't know if they would have changed the call or not, but it seemed like a play that should have obviously been reviewed. If you're not going to review something that clear-cut, why have the rule?
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 08:14:24 pm »
Ridiculous that wasn't reviewed (unless the rules don't call for it in that circumstance in which it is a ridiculously written rule).  And Berkman absolutely crushed his HR turned non-HR!
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 09:06:16 pm »
Yankee fans making the idiots in dumbass cove look like brain surgeons... Another fan interference (on their own player this time).
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 09:23:27 pm »
Teixiera pulled a hammy running to 1B.  Perhaps Berkman will see some action there for the remainder of the series.
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2010, 09:36:00 pm »
Boom! The real AJ Burnett shows up!
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 09:37:23 pm »
Quote from: austro on October 19, 2010, 09:36:00 pm
Boom! The real AJ Burnett shows up!

You can hear the audible groans in the hall and out the window.
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 09:49:32 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on October 19, 2010, 07:41:16 pm
RF umpire really covering himself in glory in this inning. Blows the fan interference call and then calls Pumas foul ball a HR.

Does it matter at all they got both calls right?
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2010, 10:11:32 pm »
Both calls?  Cruz was clearly interfered with in the 1st one in the field of play.  If you're going to have a rule that allows instant replays for disputed home run calls, plays like the first one ought to be reviewable as well.

ETA: And I wish (for his sake) that Berkman's monster shot would have stood, but am pleased that an inappropriate HR was taken off the board. 
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2010, 10:47:09 pm »
I haven't been watching AL ball, but Ron Washington's bullpen machinations are frustrating to watch.
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2010, 10:48:53 pm »
Quote from: Ron Brand on October 19, 2010, 10:47:09 pm
I haven't been watching AL ball, but Ron Washington's bullpen machinations are frustrating to watch.

Puma coming to the plate with the bases juiced.  Conflict of emotions.
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2010, 10:59:13 pm »
Quote from: hostros7 on October 19, 2010, 10:48:53 pm
Puma coming to the plate with the bases juiced.  Conflict of emotions.

Wanted him to jack one out.  The Yankees would still have been down by 1... He smashed the ball, but Young made a great play on it to end the threat.  Now all I'll hear from my Yankee friends tomorrow is how bad Berkman sucks...
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2010, 11:00:11 pm »
And Rangers put double digits on the Yankees with back-to-back homers from Hamilton and Cruz.  T9: TEX 10, NYY 3
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2010, 06:48:43 am »
Quote from: OregonStrosFan on October 19, 2010, 10:11:32 pm
Both calls?  Cruz was clearly interfered with in the 1st one in the field of play.

He clearly was not.  The ball clearly had crossed over the top of the fence before a fan touched anything.

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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2010, 07:06:54 am »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2010, 06:48:43 am
He clearly was not.  The ball clearly had crossed over the top of the fence before a fan touched anything.



This is correct, although I can't see how the RF ump could have discerned that without review.
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2010, 08:52:11 am »
Quote from: OregonStrosFan on October 19, 2010, 10:59:13 pm
Now all I'll hear from my Yankee friends tomorrow is how bad Berkman sucks...

You may want to remind them that Berkman isn't on the hill giving up all of those jackballs.
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2010, 09:07:18 am »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2010, 06:48:43 am
He clearly was not.  The ball clearly had crossed over the top of the fence before a fan touched anything.



The fan clearly contacted Cruz's glove in the field of play before the ball landed.
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2010, 11:02:38 am »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2010, 06:48:43 am
He clearly was not.  The ball clearly had crossed over the top of the fence before a fan touched anything.



You cannot reach over and touch the players glove regardless.  If in the opinion of the umpire it was an uncatchable ball, that is one thing (I would disagree with that one), but there is no way that fans touching a players glove while the player and glove are still in the field of play is allowed.  If the player reaches over the stands, then it is a different story.  Was he in the stands?
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2010, 11:05:37 am »
Quote from: OregonStrosFan on October 19, 2010, 10:59:13 pm
Wanted him to jack one out.  The Yankees would still have been down by 1... He smashed the ball, but Young made a great play on it to end the threat.  Now all I'll hear from my Yankee friends tomorrow is how bad Berkman sucks...

wouldn't a grand slam have tied it 7-7?
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2010, 11:13:59 am »
Quote from: JimR on October 20, 2010, 11:05:37 am
wouldn't a grand slam have tied it 7-7?

I thought it was 8-3 but I'd not put it past me to have been mistaken...
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2010, 11:17:50 am »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2010, 06:48:43 am
He clearly was not.  The ball clearly had crossed over the top of the fence before a fan touched anything.

I disagree... LINK
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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2010, 11:48:19 am »
Quote from: OregonStrosFan on October 20, 2010, 11:17:50 am
I disagree... LINK

It was clear to me and Limey based on what we saw last night*

*caveat:  we had been drinking for several hours.
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2010, 12:02:09 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2010, 11:48:19 am
*caveat:  we had been drinking for several hours.

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Re: ALCS game 4
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2010, 01:13:50 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2010, 11:48:19 am
It was clear to me and Limey based on what we saw last night*

*caveat:  we had been drinking for several hours.

Yup.  We agreed that the ball wasn't catchable (it was in the air for an hour and only just reached the seats - meaning that is was coming pretty much straight down when it landed), and I also don't understand why no review was made.  However, I don't know what the rule is about touching a player's mitt over the field of play.  Is that unintentional or blatant pass interference?

I think we can all agree that Yankee fans are douches.
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