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Title: Last night's broadcast
Post by: JimR on July 02, 2017, 09:13:02 am
I muted it from the beginning, which is why I still have a TV today. They were showing close ups from the NYY dugout 50-50 with the game. Fox must have been heartbroken when the Astros rallied.

What a game! Exhibit A to why I love this team. Correa's AB showed how much he has matured. His off-balance throw to get Gardner was incredible. Oh my, Yuli! Hostros said in the GZ his bat was Alou quick on the game winner. Great description. Need a win today. Only Devo is rested.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: Lefty on July 02, 2017, 09:27:52 am
I muted it from the beginning, which is why I still have a TV today. They were showing close ups from the NYY dugout 50-50 with the game. Fox must have been heartbroken when the Astros rallied.

What a game! Exhibit A to why I love this team. Correa's AB showed how much he has matured. His off-balance throw to get Gardner was incredible. Oh my, Yuli! Hostros said in the GZ his bat was Alou quick on the game winner. Great description. Need a win today. Only Devo is rested.

I'm sure Fox was thrilled when they saw Girardi's lineup card and Judge was on the bench.  Like you said, they made up for it by showing him in the dugout every 10 minutes.

It would be really, really nice if our June ace can pitch into the 7th today and turn it over to Devo.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: JimR on July 02, 2017, 09:33:42 am
I'm sure Fox was thrilled when they saw Girardi's lineup card and Judge was on the bench.  Like you said, they made up for it by showing him in the dugout every 10 minutes.

It would be really, really nice if our June ace can pitch into the 7th today and turn it over to Devo.

Every 3 minutes, then they switched to the newbie.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: HudsonHawk on July 02, 2017, 10:33:24 am
I'm guessing they all splooged in their pants when Judge pinch hit in the 9th of a 1-run game. I cannot imagine a more disappointing 8th and 9th for Fox.

The most annoying comment of the night however had to be one of the idiots saying Mike Sciosia is clearly Manager of the Year at this point because to have your team still hovering around .500 with all the injuries they've had to the pitching staff is unheard of.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: geezerdonk on July 02, 2017, 10:39:05 am
Unique even.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: chuck on July 02, 2017, 11:26:33 am
Those two literally had me yearning for Joe Buck.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: Reuben on July 02, 2017, 11:42:04 am
It's so nice to see Gurriel starting to heat up, and win that battle of the Cubans. I hope this is the beginning of him really emerging as the excellent hitter he's supposed to be. He'll probably never walk much, but if he can show just a little more discipline I wouldn't be surprised to see him hit .320 with 35-40 doubles and 25 HR in a season. Maybe now he's had enough time to figure out what major league pitchers are trying to do with him.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: JimR on July 02, 2017, 12:07:54 pm
It's so nice to see Gurriel starting to heat up, and win that battle of the Cubans. I hope this is the beginning of him really emerging as the excellent hitter he's supposed to be. He'll probably never walk much, but if he can show just a little more discipline I wouldn't be surprised to see him hit .320 with 35-40 doubles and 25 HR in a season. Maybe now he's had enough time to figure out what major league pitchers are trying to do with him.

Supposed to be? Are you watching these games?
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: chuck on July 02, 2017, 12:15:35 pm
Gurriel is the Astro I would most want at the plate in a situation like that. If he improves with additional mlb experience, great. But as a hitter, I'm not sure how much better he needs to be.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: Reuben on July 02, 2017, 12:21:26 pm
Supposed to be? Are you watching these games?
As much as I'm able, yes. This past month or so he's been great. His overall season and career numbers are well below what his reputation and history would suggest. It has looked to me at times like he's too willing to swing at the pitcher's pitch. He's got great bat speed and he's very good at making contact, but when he goes after the pitcher's pitch the result is a lot of rollovers and pop-ups.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: JimR on July 02, 2017, 12:27:20 pm
As much as I'm able, yes. This past month or so he's been great. His overall season and career numbers are well below what his reputation and history would suggest. It has looked to me at times like he's too willing to swing at the pitcher's pitch. He's got great bat speed and he's very good at making contact, but when he goes after the pitcher's pitch the result is a lot of rollovers and pop-ups.


Whatever you say
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: das on July 02, 2017, 12:32:12 pm
As much as I'm able, yes. This past month or so he's been great. His overall season and career numbers are well below what his reputation and history would suggest. It has looked to me at times like he's too willing to swing at the pitcher's pitch. He's got great bat speed and he's very good at making contact, but when he goes after the pitcher's pitch the result is a lot of rollovers and pop-ups.

Dude is trending to .285, 18HR, 72RBI for the year.  I've never seen anyone project his reputation and history to better numbers than that.  Most have said these are his ceiling.

Aside from the numbers, he's one of a select few on the team that I want in the highest leverage situations.  Ice in his veins, he has. 

And, turning HARD on a Chapman 100mph heater?  Are you kidding me?  Wow.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: JimR on July 02, 2017, 12:32:27 pm
Gurriel is the Astro I would most want at the plate in a situation like that. If he improves with additional mlb experience, great. But as a hitter, I'm not sure how much better he needs to be.

When he came to the plate, I told my dog (since he is the only one here) "Gurriel will not be intimidated by Chapman. He probably faced him many times in Cuba." We have talked often at OWA about the worst AB in Astros history. Gurriel's AB last night is in the running for the best. So patient.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: doyce7 on July 02, 2017, 12:44:23 pm
Dude is trending to .285, 18HR, 72RBI for the year.  I've never seen anyone project his reputation and history to better numbers than that.  Most have said these are his ceiling.

Aside from the numbers, he's one of a select few on the team that I want in the highest leverage situations.  Ice in his veins, he has. 

And, turning HARD on a Chapman 100mph heater?  Are you kidding me?  Wow.
I feel like every time we see a guy hitting 100, yuli mashes a fastball for extra bases

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Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: Texifornia on July 02, 2017, 12:49:22 pm
The sound was off and the stereo was on, as usual. I was screaming at the screen for the whole at bat: "...go ahead and take him to a full count, you overrated motherfucker! That means Marwin scores on the double you fuckin' bitch!" Then like a lightning bolt Yuli delivers the double and Marwin coasts in for the winning run. Just glorious!
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: jbm on July 02, 2017, 12:54:26 pm
I haven't looked at the stats much this year, but my internal ordering of Astros hitters results from answering the following question: who would I want at the plate in that situation?   Anyways, I immediately thought about Altuve and Gurriel, but there are lots of worthy answers. For that, I feel damn lucky.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: HudsonHawk on July 02, 2017, 12:58:40 pm
I'm kind of surprised that Betances was allowed to pitch to Marwin.  I figured Chapman would be in to turn Marwin around then face Gurriel.  I think Marwin's at bat was very good also.  Perhaps Chapman was ready yet
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: Reuben on July 02, 2017, 12:59:21 pm
I must not be articulating my thoughts very well. Y'all seem to think I'm ragging on Gurriel. I'm pointing out that what he's done lately is more like what I expected/hoped for from him.

And Das - this is a guy who was a man among boys in Cuba. He was always revered as one of the best hitters anywhere. He had a career .335 AVG there, with more RBI than games played. His final season there, he hit .500 (.500!) with 3 strikeouts in 49 games. The big question about him was just whether he's too old now to be a great MLB hitter; that's what a lot of scouts/pundits seemed to think.

To me, it's seemed like approach and pitch selection were the only things holding him back a little, not bat speed or physical ability.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: geezerdonk on July 02, 2017, 02:39:57 pm
And he has the best "now you see me, now you don't" second base phantom slide.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: Lefty on July 02, 2017, 10:46:07 pm
When he came to the plate, I told my dog (since he is the only one here) "Gurriel will not be intimidated by Chapman. He probably faced him many times in Cuba." We have talked often at OWA about the worst AB in Astros history. Gurriel's AB last night is in the running for the best. So patient.

It's been a long time, but I'm assuming Carl Everett?
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: JimR on July 03, 2017, 07:35:38 am
I haven't looked at the stats much this year, but my internal ordering of Astros hitters results from answering the following question: who would I want at the plate in that situation?   Anyways, I immediately thought about Altuve and Gurriel, but there are lots of worthy answers. For that, I feel damn lucky.

Not Altuve. Gurriel or Correa
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: JimR on July 03, 2017, 07:37:06 am
It's been a long time, but I'm assuming Carl Everett?

Bingo
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: Lefty on July 03, 2017, 09:45:10 am
Bingo
It was that or Truby.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: das on July 03, 2017, 11:54:26 am
Bingo

Which AB are you talking about for Everett?  One from his first day back from the DL in Chicago?  I'd love to go see if I can find a video of the one you are talking about.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: WVastro on July 03, 2017, 12:06:46 pm
I don't remember the Everett ab but check this out:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O4O9MPV_uf8

Strike three is simply amazing.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: Ty in Tampa on July 03, 2017, 12:31:58 pm
It was that or Truby.

Wasn't that a case where Truby never should have been at bat? While bad, I put that on Dierker.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: austro on July 03, 2017, 01:13:41 pm
It's been a long time, but I'm assuming Carl Everett?

Probably, unless it was Chris Truby.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: chuck on July 03, 2017, 01:28:47 pm
Probably, unless it was Chris Truby.

What Ty said.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: austro on July 03, 2017, 01:32:48 pm
Which AB are you talking about for Everett?  One from his first day back from the DL in Chicago?  I'd love to go see if I can find a video of the one you are talking about.

The way-too-anxious bases-loaded crapfest against the ATL. I almost broke my television.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: Lefty on July 03, 2017, 01:43:57 pm
Wasn't that a case where Truby never should have been at bat? While bad, I put that on Dierker.

That's totally fair.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: JimR on July 03, 2017, 02:29:38 pm
Which AB are you talking about for Everett?  One from his first day back from the DL in Chicago?  I'd love to go see if I can find a video of the one you are talking about.


Bases loaded, no out.

Waltfuckingweiss game
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: JimR on July 03, 2017, 02:30:35 pm
Wasn't that a case where Truby never should have been at bat? While bad, I put that on Dierker.

This
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: das on July 03, 2017, 02:54:23 pm

Bases loaded, no out.

Waltfuckingweiss game

Aw, hell. That thing. I misunderstood you comment to say Gurriel's was "one of the best" and you were mentioning another good Astro AB as a comparison. Now that scab has been ripped open again.

Trying desperately to shift gears, what other notable *good* Astro AB's stand out to you all.  Not necessarily because of only a good outcome (Hatcher's HR!!!) but because of the excellent batsmanship?
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: HudsonHawk on July 03, 2017, 03:06:23 pm
I don't remember the Everett ab but check this out:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O4O9MPV_uf8

Strike three is simply amazing.

I remember that. It was pouring down rain and the Jays were winning like 10-0 in the fourth inning. Griffin wanted to try to get five innings in as Jack Morris was going for his 20th win. The irony is, right after that swing, the ump called a rain delay.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: austro on July 03, 2017, 04:11:33 pm
Aw, hell. That thing. I misunderstood you comment to say Gurriel's was "one of the best" and you were mentioning another good Astro AB as a comparison. Now that scab has been ripped open again.

Trying desperately to shift gears, what other notable *good* Astro AB's stand out to you all.  Not necessarily because of only a good outcome (Hatcher's HR!!!) but because of the excellent batsmanship?

This wasn't a high-leverage situation, as I recall, but it was one of the most remarkable things I've ever seen: Moises Alou turned on a ball thrown at his coconut and ripped it down the LF line.
Title: Re: Last night's broadcast
Post by: Bench on July 03, 2017, 04:45:34 pm
What a game! Exhibit A to why I love this team. Correa's AB showed how much he has matured. His off-balance throw to get Gardner was incredible. Oh my, Yuli! Hostros said in the GZ his bat was Alou quick on the game winner. Great description. Need a win today. Only Devo is rested.

That was one of those season-defining signature wins, kind of like the big 9th inning comeback against the Angels in September 2015 that proved to be the difference in the wild card race.