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Title: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: Snuffy on July 19, 2019, 09:03:05 am
Good article about Marisnick (https://sports.yahoo.com/astros-jake-marisnick-doesnt-play-villain-role-well-because-he-isnt-the-bad-guy-045553020.html)

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....And so it has been quite the 10 days for a guy whose transgression was diving for the inside edge of home plate rather than the outside edge, a 17-inch miscalculation made in a split second that, first, injured Lucroy and, second, became Marisnick’s to explain.

He has been the adult in the room ever since, from the tenderness he showed Lucroy immediately after impact to the herding of angry teammates when the retaliation finally arrived....

According to the HC, during a team meeting (https://www.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Houston-Astros-Los-Angeles-Angels-game-recap-14104218.php) after the loss (and his HBP) that seemed to help the team refocus.

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(Marisnick) "Put this stuff behind us and get out and get some wins," Marisnick pleaded before Wednesday's game. "We got beat up the last couple days, we lost two here, so we're looking to get back out and get a win today."

Well done!
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: Mr. Happy on July 20, 2019, 07:05:32 am
Good article about Marisnick (https://sports.yahoo.com/astros-jake-marisnick-doesnt-play-villain-role-well-because-he-isnt-the-bad-guy-045553020.html)

According to the HC, during a team meeting (https://www.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Houston-Astros-Los-Angeles-Angels-game-recap-14104218.php) after the loss (and his HBP) that seemed to help the team refocus.

Well done!

Good stuff. Marisnick sounds like a leader. I'm so glad he's an Astro.
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: Snuffy on July 20, 2019, 08:42:32 am
Good stuff. Marisnick sounds like a leader. I'm so glad he's an Astro.

Me, too.
He makes it look so easy covering the outfield; good to see him hitting better.
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: geezerdonk on July 20, 2019, 09:52:32 am
Spiking Marisnick was 100% bush. Marisnick was guilty of nothing but playing clean, sportsman like baseball. The Angels have been through a difficult time and Marisnick correctly gave them a pass.
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: Mr. Happy on July 20, 2019, 12:32:46 pm
Spiking Marisnick was 100% bush. Marisnick was guilty of nothing but playing clean, sportsman like baseball. The Angels have been through a difficult time and Marisnick correctly gave them a pass.

An excellent point. I used to respect Ausmus as a manager, but he probably ordered the pitcher to dot Marisnick. I have no more respect for Ausmus. Fuck him. I hope his team falls apart.
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: das on July 21, 2019, 08:48:15 am
An excellent point. I used to respect Ausmus as a manager, but he probably ordered the pitcher to dot Marisnick. I have no more respect for Ausmus. Fuck him. I hope his team falls apart.

I have been surprised (not in a good way) at Ausmus in post game interviews and especially in his comments after the Marisnick incident.  He comes across exasperated, dull, full of platitudes, not very insightful and decidedly old school. I have a hard time reconciling what I see with his reputation.

That said, my perception may be tainted by 4 years of Hinch, who is one of the most media-savvy baseball people I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: Mr. Happy on July 21, 2019, 01:21:44 pm
I have been surprised (not in a good way) at Ausmus in post game interviews and especially in his comments after the Marisnick incident.  He comes across exasperated, dull, full of platitudes, not very insightful and decidedly old school. I have a hard time reconciling what I see with his reputation.

That said, my perception may be tainted by 4 years of Hinch, who is one of the most media-savvy baseball people I have ever seen.

Ausmus had a rep as a whiner in Detroit. His last year, he got run at least six times. Always bitching.
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: Waldo on July 22, 2019, 08:29:16 am
Let's also not forget this (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/tigers-manager-brad-ausmus-apologizes-after-i-beat-my-wife-joke/).
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on July 22, 2019, 01:08:23 pm
Let's also not forget this (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/tigers-manager-brad-ausmus-apologizes-after-i-beat-my-wife-joke/).
At least he didn't joke that he raped and murdered her.
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: Lefty on July 22, 2019, 07:39:00 pm
Did Ausmus ever block the plate in his Astros career?  Back when it was legal?  Or was it just swipetag?
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: JimR on July 22, 2019, 08:35:46 pm
Did Ausmus ever block the plate in his Astros career?  Back when it was legal?  Or was it just swipetag?

He was a matador.
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: Lefty on July 23, 2019, 03:56:39 pm
He was a matador.

That's my recollection.
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: BlownRanger on July 24, 2019, 08:28:08 am
I loved Bagwell talking about Scioscia lobbying for the rule protecting catchers:  "He blocked the plate on me once when I homered".
Title: Re: Jake Marisnick - a good villain, a bad guy, or neither?
Post by: Snuffy on July 24, 2019, 08:43:04 am
I loved Bagwell talking about Scioscia lobbying for the rule protecting catchers:  "He blocked the plate on me once when I homered".

Bagwell is a hoot, fun to listen to his stories.