Verizon iPhone

[Limey]

Coming this summer, according to the Murdoch Street Journal.  AAPL jumped $4+ from yesterday's record high.  A CDMA iPhone can be distributed much more widely than the current GSM-only models.

[Alkie]

I'm not sure why I feel the need to ask this, but just how many goddamn pockets do you have?

[MusicMan]

I'm not sure why I feel the need to ask this, but just how many goddamn pockets do you have?

Just wait until you see the pocket he puts his iPad in.  He'll look like a goddamned kangaroo.

[Limey]

I'm not sure why I feel the need to ask this, but just how many goddamn pockets do you have?

My interest here is purely financial, as a holder of a small number of AAPLs.  Simultaneous voice and data makes AT&T > Verizon, IMHO, so I'm sticking with my exiting phone until the 2011 update.

[Limey]

Just wait until you see the pocket he puts his iPad in.  He'll look like a goddamned kangaroo.

The iPad is going to live on my coffee table, to be used mostly for GZ ramblings, mostly.

[Alkie]

Just wait until you see the pocket he puts his iPad in.  He'll look like a goddamned kangaroo.

...for a change?

[Limey]

Now seeing rumours that the next iPhone will be called the "HD", with double the resolution of the current screen, to be released on June 22.

In addition, there remains the constant background noise about a front-facing camera and multi-tasking.

[Matt]

Now seeing rumours that the next iPhone will be called the "HD", with double the resolution of the current screen, to be released on June 22.

In addition, there remains the constant background noise about a front-facing camera and multi-tasking.

Front-facing camera for easy junk photos.

[Limey]

Front-facing camera for easy junk photos.

See Roulette, Chat.

[Matt]

See Roulette, Chat.

haha No thanks. I know the Internet well enough to have predicted what was going to happen with Chat Roulette.

[Guinness]

haha No thanks. I know the Internet well enough to have predicted what was going to happen with Chat Roulette.

I've made it a point not to look up unfamiliar terms I see on this site ever since the one about the pink sock or whatever it was.

[Limey]

haha No thanks. I know the Internet well enough to have predicted what was going to happen with Chat Roulette.

If I have grabbed the link correctly (Comedy Central is blocked by my company's fun filter), here's The Daily Show's expose of Chat Roulette.  Classic!

[AtascAstro]

Now seeing rumours that the next iPhone will be called the "HD", with double the resolution of the current screen, to be released on June 22.

In addition, there remains the constant background noise about a front-facing camera and multi-tasking.

Nice, my current iPhone contract will be up late this summer.  Considering that my children's lives are chronicled more through my iPhone camera than any other piece of technology that I've invested in, I think this could be very much worth the upgrade.

[Matt]

If I have grabbed the link correctly (Comedy Central is blocked by my company's fun filter), here's The Daily Show's expose of Chat Roulette.  Classic!

haha Yes I saw that bit when they aired it. The amount of people they rounded up for that sketch was impressive.

[Bench]

Chatroulette might be generally creepy, but this is pretty fucking awesome.

[Gizzmonic]

Speaking of the iPad, here's the first thing I've seen that made me want one.  Reminds me of those old mini-arcade games that ran off C batteries, anyone else have those?

[Limey]

Speaking of the iPad, here's the first thing I've seen that made me want one.  Reminds me of those old mini-arcade games that ran off C batteries, anyone else have those?

Wow!

[Lurch]

I'd lay in my Tauntaun sleeping bag and play it all day

[Gizzmonic]

I hear you.  The only thing stopping me is that I've probably bought Dig-Dug, Pac-Man etc countless times for different software platforms over the years.  Heck, I just paid $10 for the retro collection on PS3 less than a month ago.  But if you already have an iPad...well damn, how can you resist?

[Lurch]

I hear you.  The only thing stopping me is that I've probably bought Dig-Dug, Pac-Man etc countless times for different software platforms over the years.  Heck, I just paid $10 for the retro collection on PS3 less than a month ago.  But if you already have an iPad...well damn, how can you resist?

You should Topeka it.

[Matt]

Speaking of the iPad, here's the first thing I've seen that made me want one.  Reminds me of those old mini-arcade games that ran off C batteries, anyone else have those?

That looks like something out of the SkyMall catalog.

[Waldo]

A CDMA iPhone can be distributed much more widely than the current GSM-only models.

Wouldn't a 3G Verizon iPhone would lose its simultaneous voice+data capabilities?  Neither Sprint nor Verizon (both CDMA) can do that with their 3G phones (I guess unless the data is over Wifi).  Apple would have to pull a few of their TV ads.  (FWIW, Sprint says the EVO 4G can do simultaneous voice/Wifi data and maybe simultaneous voice/4G.)

I'm having a hard time deciding whether this makes sense.  The die-hard iPhone users are upgrading every year anyway, so a current Verizon customer could get one this summer and then (likely) upgrade to a 4G iPhone next summer.  On the other hand, Sprint's 4G phone looms on the horizon this summer.  Will the average consumer go with the trendy pick or the newer technology?

[Gizzmonic]

Whoops!  That iPad accessory is an April Fools' prank.  Damn, what a cruel prank!

[HudsonHawk]

The iPad is going to live on my coffee table, to be used mostly for GZ ramblings, mostly.

Isn't the iPad just a giant iPhone...without the phone part?

[Limey]

Isn't the iPad just a giant iPhone...without the phone part?

Yes...yes it is.  In fact, more accurately, it's a giant iPod Touch.

[Limey]

Wouldn't a 3G Verizon iPhone would lose its simultaneous voice+data capabilities?  Neither Sprint nor Verizon (both CDMA) can do that with their 3G phones (I guess unless the data is over Wifi).  Apple would have to pull a few of their TV ads.  (FWIW, Sprint says the EVO 4G can do simultaneous voice/Wifi data and maybe simultaneous voice/4G.)

I'm having a hard time deciding whether this makes sense.  The die-hard iPhone users are upgrading every year anyway, so a current Verizon customer could get one this summer and then (likely) upgrade to a 4G iPhone next summer.  On the other hand, Sprint's 4G phone looms on the horizon this summer.  Will the average consumer go with the trendy pick or the newer technology?

AFAIK, you're right that the iPhone would lose the simultaneous voice+data capability.  I think Apple have been pushing that lately to support AT&T in it's spat with Verizon about 3G coverage.  They can still advertise that capability, but it'll be up to AT&T to differentiate itself from the others on that particular functionality.

I think the CDMA iPhone is more relevant around the world than it is in the US.  And by "the world", I really mean "emerging nations", as most of the industrialised world has been GSM or better for a while now.

[Noe]

BTW - in a recent poll of App Developers, the result of the survey as to which Smartphone technology they (Developers) thought they'd be more in line to build apps for in the future. the far and above leaders emerged: Apple and Google.  Google's Android was not a distant second either, it was almost even with the iPhone in terms of how the developer community saw as the future leader.  All the others were not close, although the Windows Phone got almost double the amount of votes that it did in it's previous incarnation.  Blackberry received a lot of love too, but not quite double the amount of votes it had previously received.

But the Dev world is right now putting their money on iPhone and Android to lap everyone and no telling which one they believe will win out between those two.

[homer]

AFAIK, you're right that the iPhone would lose the simultaneous voice+data capability.  I think Apple have been pushing that lately to support AT&T in it's spat with Verizon about 3G coverage.  They can still advertise that capability, but it'll be up to AT&T to differentiate itself from the others on that particular functionality.

I think the CDMA iPhone is more relevant around the world than it is in the US.  And by "the world", I really mean "emerging nations", as most of the industrialised world has been GSM or better for a while now.

GSM is not 'better' than CDMA.

[Limey]

GSM is not 'better' than CDMA.

What I meant by "GSM or better" is that (IIRC) some European countries and Japan are already providing 4G GSM networks, as is Sprint here now I think (and as will AT&T shortly, so they claim, with Houston being one of the primary 4G markets for them).  It's been a few years now (pre-dating the iPhone even), but I left Verizon because my CDMA phone would work only in the US and (maybe) South Korea.  Everywhere else I went was GSM, so I needed a GSM phone.

I have no idea of the relative merits of GSM vs. CDMA.  I just know that, for me, GSM was much more useful on my travels.

[HudsonHawk]

What I meant by "GSM or better" is that (IIRC) some European countries and Japan are already providing 4G GSM networks,

Pardon my ignorance, but why is 4G better than 3G, other than simply being 1G more? 

[Andyzipp]

Pardon my ignorance, but why is 4G better than 3G, other than simply being 1G more? 

Better is a relative term.  4G will be faster.  Think the old kbbps measures of dial-up modems.  Was 56k better than 22.8?

[HudsonHawk]

Better is a relative term.  4G will be faster.  Think the old kbbps measures of dial-up modems.  Was 56k better than 22.8?

Well that's what I mean.  Is 4G simply faster?  Does it have more features? 

[Limey]

Well that's what I mean.  Is 4G simply faster?  Does it have more features? 

I believe it's better than before.  Better.  Stronger.  Faster.

[Noe]

Well that's what I mean.  Is 4G simply faster?  Does it have more features? 

Well. not necessarily.  It means that what took longer to access, mainly multimedia, will take less to render and play on a mobile device.  So basically, if you're into multimedia on your device, you don't have to wait as long to watch it render.  This will make digital transfer of such items as video feeds from one point to another faster.  But it doesn't really mean that all other aspects of your device will be faster, it probably transfers about the same.  But if you have audio, video, graphics (such as XBox on your phone for an example) you'll get acceptable transfer with 4G.

[Limey]

Well. not necessarily.  It means that what took longer to access, mainly multimedia, will take less to render and play on a mobile device.  So basically, if you're into multimedia on your device, you don't have to wait as long to watch it render.  This will make digital transfer of such items as video feeds from one point to another faster.  But it doesn't really mean that all other aspects of your device will be faster, it probably transfers about the same.  But if you have audio, video, graphics (such as XBox on your phone for an example) you'll get acceptable transfer with 4G.

So it's faster.