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Stark argues the good guys' case
« on: October 04, 2005, 10:56:59 am »
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Re: Stark argues the good guys' case
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2005, 11:06:30 am »
Goosebumps...thanks for the link!

I've felt Stark has always been Astro-biased ( a rarity in sports media) but damn I like the way the man thinks.
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Re: Stark argues the good guys' case
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2005, 11:30:51 am »
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One assistant GM's review of Clemens-Pettitte-Oswalt: "Perhaps the best postseason 1-2-3 of my lifetime."


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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2005, 11:41:42 am »
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Stark: Astros to win



I was listening to 790, Sat. night, JT "The Brick"?,(I think) why? I was driving and ostensibly they were talking about the playoffs.  Yammer, yammer, yammer, Boston, NY.  Stark starts on the Astros, gets out 2 sentences about the pitching and the Brick says, I swear, "Yeah but getting back to the Red Sox".  The worst part about the Astros getting into post season is we gotta weed through these dickless fuctards going on about something they are obviously cluesless about.  And it's not like the Astros in the playoffs are a big surprise.
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Re: Stark argues the good guys' case
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2005, 11:43:12 am »
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I was listening to 790, Sat. night, JT "The Brick"?,(I think) why?  



If your CD player was on the fritz, this is understandable.  Houston radio is in a sad, sad state.
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2005, 11:44:40 am »
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I was listening to 790, Sat. night, JT "The Brick"?,(I think) why? I was driving and ostensibly they were talking about the playoffs.  Yammer, yammer, yammer, Boston, NY.  Stark starts on the Astros, gets out 2 sentences about the pitching and the Brick says, I swear, "Yeah but getting back to the Red Sox".  The worst part about the Astros getting into post season is we gotta weed through these dickless fuctards going on about something they are obviously cluesless about.  And it's not like the Astros in the playoffs are a big surprise.


This post-season should be dedicated to Rodney Dangerfield.
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2005, 11:50:29 am »
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I was listening to 790, Sat. night, JT "The Brick"?,(I think) why?  



If your CD player was on the fritz, this is understandable.  Houston radio is in a sad, sad state.



A CD player? In one of my cars?  To get music I'd have to pick up a hitch hiking mariachi band.  The current car has no CD player and the tape player eats tapes like John Kruk at the Jack in the Box drive through.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2005, 11:58:56 am »
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If your CD player was on the fritz, this is understandable.  Houston radio is in a sad, sad state.


Thank you Clear Channel.
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Re: Stark argues the good guys' case
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2005, 12:04:22 pm »
I don't know if Rodney Dangerfield summons the same clout as Scott Baio.  Has Dangerfield ever actually achieved his elusive quest for respect?  I will leave that up to debate...as well as the movie "ladybugs."
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Re: Stark argues the good guys' case
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2005, 12:06:47 pm »
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A CD player? In one of my cars?  To get music I'd have to pick up a hitch hiking mariachi band.  The current car has no CD player and the tape player eats tapes like John Kruk at the Jack in the Box drive through.



You got FM in that Dart?
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2005, 12:20:01 pm »
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A CD player? In one of my cars?  To get music I'd have to pick up a hitch hiking mariachi band.  The current car has no CD player and the tape player eats tapes like John Kruk at the Jack in the Box drive through.



You got FM in that Dart?



Wasn't invented yet. If I wanted noise in the Dart I had to bring along a chicken and twist its' beak.  I may have invented sports radio a decade or two sooner.
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Re: Stark argues the good guys' case
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2005, 01:01:30 pm »
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Stark: Astros to win



"But the Astros did blow a 3-games-to-2 lead in that series -- and lost Game 7 after handing Clemens a quick 2-0 lead.

"Over the previous 10 years, Clemens was 140-2 when he led by two runs at any point. But he couldn't hold this one. And that loss creates a sense of unfinished business that will hang over not just this team, but Clemens himself."

Read that again: 140-2.
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2005, 01:16:09 pm »
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"But the Astros did blow a 3-games-to-2 lead in that series -- and lost Game 7 after handing Clemens a quick 2-0 lead.

"Over the previous 10 years, Clemens was 140-2 when he led by two runs at any point. But he couldn't hold this one. And that loss creates a sense of unfinished business that will hang over not just this team, but Clemens himself."

Read that again: 140-2.


It's just a shame that this stat is mute for the 2005 Astros.
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Re: Stark argues the good guys' case
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2005, 01:17:23 pm »
JT "The Brick"?,(I think)

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Re: Stark argues the good guys' case
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2005, 01:28:33 pm »
I have been conditioning myself for the last 8 weeks that just making the playoffs would be more than enough to make this season a success (which it still will be), but damn, after you read more and more articles like this one, it is hard to not get greedy.

I just don?t think we have the consistency in the order to make it through 2 much less 3 series... but when you look at the competition, all the teams have a bunch of holes.   The Cardinals clearly have the least holes of all 8 teams, but they get a big David Wells sized asterisk due to the injuries and the way their starters pitched down the stretch.
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Re: Stark argues the good guys' case
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2005, 01:39:47 pm »
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I have been conditioning myself for the last 8 weeks that just making the playoffs would be more than enough to make this season a success (which it still will be), but damn, after you read more and more articles like this one, it is hard to not get greedy.

I just don?t think we have the consistency in the order to make it through 2 much less 3 series... but when you look at the competition, all the teams have a bunch of holes.   The Cardinals clearly have the least holes of all 8 teams, but they get a big David Wells sized asterisk due to the injuries and the way their starters pitched down the stretch.



Leave it to Fox Sports to set you straight:

 
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the Astros ranked only 11th in the NL in runs scored despite playing half their games in one of best hitter's parks around. And that quasi-listless offense will be going up against a staff and defense that ranked fifth in the NL in fewest runs allowed. This is also one of those series in which the home-field advantage could be critically meaningful. After all, the Braves are an NL best 53-28 at Turner Field, while the Astros are only 36-45 on the road. That the series has only one off day scheduled is also to Atlanta's advantage. That's because Houston will be forced, for one of the games, to trot out a starter not named Andy Pettitte, Roger Clemens or Roy Oswalt. The recent downward-trending numbers of the Astro setup corps are also a source of concern.




Unless you like their other  Opinion

 
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The Braves are due to get lucky in the postseason one of these years, but Pettitte, Clemens and Oswalt remove luck from the equation.





Hey....someone had to link to Fox....
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Re: Stark argues the good guys' case
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2005, 01:52:30 pm »
"No. 1 in the league in ERA this year: Roger Clemens (1.87). No. 2 in the league in ERA: Pettitte (2.39). No one else had an ERA under 2.63 (which was where Dontrelle Willis finished up)."

In addition, when you take out non-playoff pitchers, the Astros have 3 of the top 4.  Only Carp is in front of Oswalt...by 0.03 ERA.
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Re: Stark argues the good guys' case
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2005, 02:18:41 pm »
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the Astros ranked only 11th in the NL in runs scored despite playing half their games in one of best hitter's parks around. And that quasi-listless offense will be going up against a staff and defense that ranked fifth in the NL in fewest runs allowed. This is also one of those series in which the home-field advantage could be critically meaningful. After all, the Braves are an NL best 53-28 at Turner Field, while the Astros are only 36-45 on the road. That the series has only one off day scheduled is also to Atlanta's advantage. That's because Houston will be forced, for one of the games, to trot out a starter not named Andy Pettitte, Roger Clemens or Roy Oswalt. The recent downward-trending numbers of the Astro setup corps are also a source of concern.


Great Odin's Beard!  It's hard to know where to begin...

Let's start with the obvious:  MMPUS is not one of the best hitter's parks around.  It's relatively neutral, although it has been dragged a little that way this year by the stingy pitching and anaemic offense.  However, that simply negates 2000 in which the home team exhibited diometrically opposing attributes.  Deepest center field in the majors.

The "quasi-listless" offense doesn't have to score that many runs off the NL's fifth best defense (sixth best if ranked by ERA) because it's supported by the NL's second best pitching staff (behind STL).

The ATL may be strong at home, but so are the Astros.  The ATL are also as pathetic on the road as the Astros have been.  So it comes down to the Astros needing to win one road game - all three of which will be started by Pettitte or Clemens.

Only one off day is to ATL's advantage?  WTF?  Who will Brandon Backe (6-2, 3.41 at home in 2005 - scene of his triumphant shut-out performance against the monster STL offense in the 2004 NLCS) face in Game #4?  Cy Fucking Young?  The short, one-day off series is to the advantage of the team with the deeper rotation.

The Astros' set-up corps has been downward trending?  OK.  ATL's has been mostly bottom-feeding all year.  And if you want to see what downward-trending looks like, take a gander at Andruw Jones' offensive numbers for the last month.

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