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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2019, 04:38:28 pm »
The optics are only terrible for the Ryans.

Exactly! Why do I agree with you so much? You should be concerned.
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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2019, 05:53:15 pm »
Yeah, well maybe. The press release was Reid’s ultimate responsibility. Seems more like your initial theory though. Reid is great at PR but is not a baseball guy. Nolan was a great pitcher who morphed into an ass.

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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2019, 07:18:55 pm »
The fact that they already announced Jared taking his place rather than searching for a replacement says to me that Jim wanted his son in the job to start grooming him, and shoved Reid out to make it happen.


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Crane is the controlling owner, but far from the only owner. I’m surprised he was willing to jam his son into this role given that the minority owners own a significant portion of the team and would likely prefer to explore other options.


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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2019, 07:25:32 pm »

Crane is the controlling owner, but far from the only owner. I’m surprised he was willing to jam his son into this role given that the minority owners own a significant portion of the team and would likely prefer to explore other options.


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How do you know the “likely” part? How do you know he did not discuss the changes with them?
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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2019, 11:36:26 pm »
I know nothing about Crane Jr other than he's in his mid-30's... where'd he go to school, where'd he work afterwards?  Not that it's a be-all-end-all, but it's interesting to know.
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« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2019, 07:18:08 am »
I know nothing about Crane Jr other than he's in his mid-30's... where'd he go to school, where'd he work afterwards?  Not that it's a be-all-end-all, but it's interesting to know.

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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2019, 09:08:40 am »
I know nothing about Crane Jr other than he's in his mid-30's... where'd he go to school, where'd he work afterwards?  Not that it's a be-all-end-all, but it's interesting to know.

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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2019, 09:14:27 am »
If you're looking for something in his resume to support this move, you won't find it.
Yes you will. It is right there in his name. I'm just grateful McLane's kids weren't interested back in the day.
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« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2019, 09:22:37 am »
Yes you will. It is right there in his name. I'm just grateful McLane's kids weren't interested back in the day.

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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2019, 09:27:35 am »
Yes you will. It is right there in his name. I'm just grateful McLane's kids weren't interested back in the day.
I see no baseball background at all. I see a member of the lucky sperm club. He would not be considered for this job by any other team. That doesn't mean he won't be good at it, it just means he didn't get the job on merit.
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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2019, 09:32:59 am »
I see no baseball background at all.

He's president of business operations.  He (presumably/hopefully) won't have much to do with the baseball side of things.

I see a member of the lucky sperm club. He would not be considered for this job by any other team. That doesn't mean he won't be good at it, it just means he didn't get the job on merit.

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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2019, 09:44:13 am »
If you're looking for something in his resume to support this move, you won't find it.

So you see nothing in his resume that says he's capable of running a business?
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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2019, 10:19:47 am »
I see no baseball background at all. I see a member of the lucky sperm club. He would not be considered for this job by any other team. That doesn't mean he won't be good at it, it just means he didn't get the job on merit.

Reid Ryan did not have “a baseball job.” This is a corporate business position, not a baseball job. Luhnow and his staff handle baseball. How would you describe Reid Ryan if you think Crane’s son is nothing but a “lucky sperm?” Was Reid Ryan qualified (by your astute judgment) to run a professional franchise 20 years ago?

If a baseball background were required before being hired, many front offices in MLB would have to get rid of there nerds and analysts.

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« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2019, 10:23:45 am »
Reid Ryan did not have “a baseball job.” This is a corporate business position, not a baseball job. Luhnow and his staff handle baseball.

If a baseball background were required before being hired, many front offices in MLB would have to get rid of there nerds and analysts.

Y’all are just looking for something to bitch about.

You worded that well, thank you.  I've been trying to figure out why so many are "up in arms" over this.  As long as things continue to get better  - I think they did under Reid - then woohoo for us!  As long as they leave Luhnow alone I'll be happy.

I think both Reid and Jared lucked out in the sperm pool. 
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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2019, 10:29:13 am »
You worded that well, thank you.  I've been trying to figure out why so many are "up in arms" over this.  As long as things continue to get better  - I think they did under Reid - then woohoo for us!  As long as they leave Luhnow alone I'll be happy.
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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2019, 10:30:18 am »
You worded that well, thank you.  I've been trying to figure out why so many are "up in arms" over this.  As long as things continue to get better  - I think they did under Reid - then woohoo for us!  As long as they leave Luhnow alone I'll be happy.

I think both Reid and Jared lucked out in the sperm pool.

Of course they did, but being lucky in being born well does not mean they lack talent or ability. Thinking otherwise without personal knowledge is an insult.
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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2019, 10:35:27 am »
Of course they did, but being lucky in being born well does not mean they lack talent or ability. Thinking otherwise without personal knowledge is an insult.

Exactly. Reid Ryan certainly benefitted from having a famous dad. However, as I understand it, he was the driving force behind the Hooks success and has done what appears to be a great job for the Astros. Jim Crane won't suffer fools for long, so if his son doesn't work out, I bet that he won't hesitate to take nexcessary steps to solve the problem.
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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2019, 11:08:19 am »
Of course they did, but being lucky in being born well does not mean they lack talent or ability. Thinking otherwise without personal knowledge is an insult.

It was a comment on their genes not their capabilities. 
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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2019, 11:17:12 am »
Some public comments from the priniciples themselves:

(Crane) We felt at this time it was time for [Jared] to step in. I'm past retirement age, and he needs to learn the business if the family is going to retain the team...I'm not a spring chicken. I've been working hard for a long time, and in all of my stuff I'm building a succession plan. Baseball requires a plan in peace for each team, so we're doing that and planning for the family. It has nothing to do with Reid.

(Reid) Jim Crane has been a great owner for the city of Houston, and I thank him for the opportunity to lead the Houston Astros organization. Thank you to the many employees, fans, and partners that have supported this team during my tenure as president. Baseball is about bringing joy to people's lives and I take pride in knowing that we have made so many memories for our fans. While my role has changed, I will remain with the Astros and look forward to another great season in 2020.


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Re: Reid Ryan phasing out
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2019, 12:25:22 pm »

(Crane) We felt at this time it was time for [Jared] to step in. I'm past retirement age, and he needs to learn the business if the family is going to retain the team...I'm not a spring chicken.
So Crane himself agrees with me. His son got the job because he is his son. Again, it doesn't imply nefarious motive, he is preparing a succession plan for the family to continue ownership of the team. If Jared is good at it, it bodes well for the team's future.

What did not happen was an executive search that yielded Jared Crane as the best candidate by pure coincidence. I hope he is good at the job because he probably won't be replaced if he isn't.
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