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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2019, 09:43:06 am »
Verlander got 17 first place votes and Cole got the other 13.

I think that Cole deserved it more, but after Cole's post-game nonsense, I was rooting for JV to win the award. 
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2019, 10:17:35 am »
I think that Cole deserved it more, but after Cole's post-game nonsense, I was rooting for JV to win the award.

I have been told postseason does not count. I was rooting for JV even before Cole was an ass.
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2019, 03:10:11 pm »
I have been told postseason does not count. I was rooting for JV even before Cole was an ass.

I think the votes have to be in before the playoffs post season begins.
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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2019, 05:23:18 pm »
Verlander got 17 first place votes and Cole got the other 13.

If two of the voters who had JV first and Cole second had changed to Cole first and JV second - it would have been a tie.  Would have liked to have seen that.  Close vote.
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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2019, 05:34:57 pm »
Verlander got 17 first place votes and Cole got the other 13.

Same as last year: Snell with 17 first place votes to JV’s 13.

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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2019, 05:48:55 pm »
If two of the voters who had JV first and Cole second had changed to Cole first and JV second - it would have been a tie.  Would have liked to have seen that.  Close vote.

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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2019, 05:49:45 pm »
Trout mvp

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« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2019, 05:51:04 pm »
Trout mvp

The same vote as JV/Cole. 17 first place to 13.
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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2019, 05:55:36 pm »
The WSJ two days ago had an article on Trout. Over the last seven seasons, the only player in MLB history with a higher WAR was Babe Ruth, from 1920-27. Although not for lack of trying, no team with a superstar of that caliber has less postseason success than him. He extended his contract two years before it expired, and he is figuratively buried in LA

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« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2019, 05:58:31 pm »
No problem with Trout winning.

Bregman had HRs all season.   But he didn't really start raking until midseason or so.  He puts it together from April thru September and he'll have his MVP.

His contribution filling in at SS was probably underappreciated nationally.
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« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2019, 07:05:23 pm »
His contribution filing in at SS was probably underappreciated nationally.

This was the tie-breaker for me. He filled in at the most difficult position for a couple of months and played it well. I don't think he got enough credit for that.
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« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2019, 07:50:50 am »
This was the tie-breaker for me. He filled in at the most difficult position for a couple of months and played it well. I don't think he got enough credit for that.

Brian Kenny actually his 65 games played at SS this season as his tie-breaker and declared Bregman his MVP pick minutes before Trout was announced.  So at least someone was giving him credit.

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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2019, 07:54:34 am »
Brian Kenny actually his 65 games played at SS this season as his tie-breaker and declared Bregman his MVP pick minutes before Trout was announced.  So at least someone was giving him credit.

It was 17 to 13. I’d say quite a few gave him credit.


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« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2019, 09:21:56 am »
No problem with Trout winning.

Bregman had HRs all season.   But he didn't really start raking until midseason or so.  He puts it together from April thru September and he'll have his MVP.

His contribution filling in at SS was probably underappreciated nationally.

His playing every day should have been taken more seriously in my opinion. Value is greatly diminished on the DL.

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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2019, 11:09:06 am »
His playing every day should have been taken more seriously in my opinion. Value is greatly diminished on the DL.

GP is a pretty important stat.
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« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2019, 02:35:39 pm »
Did Bregman possess too much swag? Could that be a factor?

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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2019, 02:46:34 pm »
Did Bregman possess too much swag? Could that be a factor?

I doubt it.

You have to knock the champ out.  Bregman didn't quite do that.

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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2019, 02:50:26 pm »
Did Bregman possess too much swag? Could that be a factor?

He lost to the best player in baseball, that’s it.  I did see a tweet yesterday showing the vote was pretty much split, other than writers from The Athletic.  Six of their seven writers voted for Trout.
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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2019, 02:53:30 pm »
He lost to the best player in baseball, that’s it.  I did see a tweet yesterday showing the vote was pretty much split, other than writers from The Athletic.  Six of their seven writers voted for Trout.

He was also cheating..right?

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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2019, 02:54:48 pm »
He lost to the best player in baseball, that’s it.  I did see a tweet yesterday showing the vote was pretty much split, other than writers from The Athletic.  Six of their seven writers voted for Trout.

And similar to the Cy Young,  the top 2 were each 1 or 2 on every ballot.