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Re: Hinch’s decisions and thinking/G7
« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2019, 12:37:22 pm »
It’s not like we were 2001 Seattle or something

Yeah, that was great, but the past has no effect on this year for me. This was a better team which did not play as well in G7.
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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2019, 01:03:11 pm »
Just a quick back of the envelope almanac survey; the only superteams (105+ wins) who’ve played in the ws against 90-96 or so win teams and won have been the NYY, and the BoSox last year. Many have lost outside of that restriction. Winning the WS is a formidable task in any event

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« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2019, 01:11:53 pm »
Just a quick back of the envelope almanac survey; the only superteams (105+ wins) who’ve played in the ws against 90-96 or so win teams and won have been the NYY, and the BoSox last year. Many have lost outside of that restriction. Winning the WS is a formidable task in any event

I suspect this series will eat at the guys (and AJ, and Lunhow) and they'll be ready to throw down come springtime.

It'll probably be the roughest on JV.

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« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2019, 01:20:47 pm »
I suspect this series will eat at the guys (and AJ, and Lunhow) and they'll be ready to throw down come springtime.


Hinch is on record as liking it very much when the Astros accomplish something that's never been done.  I'm pretty sure none of the previous five teams with three straight 100-win seasons went on to make it four.
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« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2019, 01:24:10 pm »
I’m a New Orleans native and watched the NFC game on TV last January, so I can process this series’ outcome

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« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2019, 02:01:57 pm »
The WS in ‘17 has made everything over the last two seasons far more bearable. I’m still bummed but I’d be losing my shit if it weren’t for ‘17.

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Re: Hinch’s decisions and thinking/G7
« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2019, 03:13:44 pm »
The WS in ‘17 has made everything over the last two seasons far more bearable. I’m still bummed but I’d be losing my shit if it weren’t for ‘17.

This is me exactly. I am telling all my customers, who are well aware of my fandom, that I’m holding my head high. This is what I say: We were a historically good team this year, we won 117 games and the pennant and beat the Yankees and it took the hottest team on the planet seven games and some freaky luck to beat us when we were slumping. Plus we won one two years ago. I’m wearing my shirts with pride.

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Re: Hinch’s decisions and thinking/G7
« Reply #47 on: November 04, 2019, 03:55:14 pm »
Just a quick back of the envelope almanac survey; the only superteams (105+ wins) who’ve played in the ws against 90-96 or so win teams and won have been the NYY, and the BoSox last year. Many have lost outside of that restriction. Winning the WS is a formidable task in any event

I also found it an interesting exercise to look into the history of 100-win teams in the World Series era:

37 won the World Series
30 lost the World Series
36 didn't make it to the World Series
- 7 lost in the LCS round in the wild card era
- 7 lost in the LCS round pre-wild card
- 14 (over 10% of all 100-win teams!) lost in the LDS round
- 2 missed the postseason in the division era (both pre-wild card)
- 6 missed the postseason pre-division era
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Re: Hinch’s decisions and thinking/G7
« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2019, 04:00:39 pm »
I'm pretty sure none of the previous five teams with three straight 100-win seasons went on to make it four.

Correct.  The 1906-1910 FTC almost made it five in a row; won 100+ every season except 1908, when they won 99.

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« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2019, 04:48:25 pm »
Eight fucking outs.

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« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2019, 06:11:59 pm »
This is me exactly. I am telling all my customers, who are well aware of my fandom, that I’m holding my head high. This is what I say: We were a historically good team this year, we won 117 games and the pennant and beat the Yankees and it took the hottest team on the planet seven games and some freaky luck to beat us when we were slumping. Plus we won one two years ago. I’m wearing my shirts with pride.

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Re: Hinch’s decisions and thinking/G7
« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2019, 06:14:07 pm »
Eight fucking outs.

With Harris, Osuna, and Cole to get them.
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Re: Hinch’s decisions and thinking/G7
« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2019, 06:46:51 pm »
I suspect this series will eat at the guys (and AJ, and Lunhow) and they'll be ready to throw down come springtime.

It'll probably be the roughest on JV.

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Nats; loss, loss (the team had chances to take him off the hook but failed)

1-4 in the postseason. He did not pitch bad, but he dominated only once. First inning woes plagued him.
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« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2019, 06:59:30 pm »
Yes, JV

Rays: dominating win, loss on short rest
NYY: no decision (Astros won in 11), loss
Nats; loss, loss (the team had chances to take him off the hook but failed)

1-4 in the postseason. He did not pitch bad, but he dominated only once. First inning woes plagued him.

His innings were high, and we burned him out. That's correctable

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Re: Hinch’s decisions and thinking/G7
« Reply #54 on: November 04, 2019, 07:18:09 pm »
His innings were high, and we burned him out. That's correctable

We found the Fountain of Youth? He will have to be a willing partner in any reduction of his innings. Good way to piss him off.
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Re: Hinch’s decisions and thinking/G7
« Reply #55 on: November 04, 2019, 07:20:41 pm »
Total bullshit. They were more fortunate in a key situation and the Astros were in theirs.

“Wanted it more” is worse than lame. It is the excuse of the clueless.

Is it worse that we were unlucky? Heard a fair bit of that.
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Re: Hinch’s decisions and thinking/G7
« Reply #56 on: November 04, 2019, 07:25:06 pm »
Is it worse that we were unlucky? Heard a fair bit of that.

Far, far worse. Unlucky is a fact. “Wanted it more” sounds like HS football. Completely silly applied to professional baseball players in the World Series.
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Re: Hinch’s decisions and thinking/G7
« Reply #57 on: November 04, 2019, 07:56:51 pm »
We found the Fountain of Youth? He will have to be a willing partner in any reduction of his innings. Good way to piss him off.

His postseason record is 0-6, I see no  alternative

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Re: Hinch’s decisions and thinking/G7
« Reply #58 on: November 04, 2019, 08:15:47 pm »
His postseason record is 0-6, I see no  alternative

That is not correct. His WS record may be 0-5, but he has other postseason wins, including one dominant one this year.
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Re: Hinch’s decisions and thinking/G7
« Reply #59 on: November 04, 2019, 08:23:41 pm »
His postseason record is 0-6, I see no  alternative

See above and check again. Do not forget 2017. He was MVP of the ALCS and also beat Boston twice (I think he was the winner in G5).

He beat the Rays this year, and he pitched well against NYY. Not 0-6.
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