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« Reply #140 on: October 23, 2019, 04:02:28 pm »
This is exactly what a crisis manager would tell you to do.  Likely adding a promise of a date/time by which he’d address the media again on the subject and then pivoting to “meanwhile we have game 2 coming up...”

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« Reply #141 on: October 23, 2019, 04:05:15 pm »
Or it suggests that he (Luhnow) and/or Crane simply don't care.  I'm unfortunately beginning to think that, given that they are still pretending that their bullshit statement about SI never happened.

I've no idea if what either actually thinks about it or whether they're on the same page.  I don't think they're pretending it never happened.  I just haven't seen anyone press them on the awful original response.  And they aren't going to just bring it up on their own.
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« Reply #142 on: October 23, 2019, 04:54:36 pm »
Assuming Taubman was targeting Footer -- which certainly appears to be the case -- and given that she works for MLB.com / MLB Advanced Media, L.P.  (a partnership of the team owners), I wonder if that dynamic is affecting the front office's public statements.  MLB says they are launching an internal investigation, but the articles I've seen suggest that inquiry will focus on potential violations of the team/media relations provisions in the CBA.  But Footer is something other than a "media member".  She's an MLB employee.  So, this "internal investigation" may actually be a MLB human resources investigation.

So, Taubman's little stunt, on top of being disgraceful, also puts MLB in the cross-hairs of a potential workplace harassment suit.  I suspect that both MLB and team lawyers have told the FO to stop short of any statement that might constitute an admission of liability.

(this, of course, would have little to do with that initial abomination of a press release that attacked the SI article)

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« Reply #143 on: October 23, 2019, 04:58:02 pm »
Regardless of intent or perspective or some past hostility or what the fuck. What that stooge said at that time, in that place, in that manner, was monumentally stupid. I'd fire him for that alone. Then I'd issue a press release, something along the lines of: We recently had an employee that said something patently offensive for a number of reasons and on several layers. We are also offended and embarrassed by the actions of this now ex-employee. As an organization we will not tolerate such offensive stupidity. 
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« Reply #144 on: October 23, 2019, 05:27:07 pm »
Assuming Taubman was targeting Footer -- which certainly appears to be the case -- and given that she works for MLB.com / MLB Advanced Media, L.P.  (a partnership of the team owners), I wonder if that dynamic is affecting the front office's public statements.  MLB says they are launching an internal investigation, but the articles I've seen suggest that inquiry will focus on potential violations of the team/media relations provisions in the CBA.  But Footer is something other than a "media member".  She's an MLB employee.  So, this "internal investigation" may actually be a MLB human resources investigation.

So, Taubman's little stunt, on top of being disgraceful, also puts MLB in the cross-hairs of a potential workplace harassment suit.  I suspect that both MLB and team lawyers have told the FO to stop short of any statement that might constitute an admission of liability.

(this, of course, would have little to do with that initial abomination of a press release that attacked the SI article)
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« Reply #145 on: October 23, 2019, 05:37:18 pm »
So, Taubman's little stunt, on top of being disgraceful, also puts MLB in the cross-hairs of a potential workplace harassment suit.  I suspect that both MLB and team lawyers have told the FO to stop short of any statement that might constitute an admission of liability.

(this, of course, would have little to do with that initial abomination of a press release that attacked the SI article)

Which something Crane is all too familiar with from his other business..
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« Reply #146 on: October 23, 2019, 06:07:23 pm »
Regardless of intent or perspective or some past hostility or what the fuck. What that stooge said at that time, in that place, in that manner, was monumentally stupid. I'd fire him for that alone. Then I'd issue a press release, something along the lines of: We recently had an employee that said something patently offensive for a number of reasons and on several layers. We are also offended and embarrassed by the actions of this now ex-employee. As an organization we will not tolerate such offensive stupidity.

And the story ends right there and then.
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« Reply #147 on: October 23, 2019, 06:21:16 pm »
This might distract people from the Taubman story for a little while... yikes.
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« Reply #148 on: October 24, 2019, 12:14:28 am »
This might distract people from the Taubman story for a little while... yikes.

So, MLB might finally find something it is willing to discipline an umpire for?

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« Reply #149 on: October 24, 2019, 08:01:52 am »
So, MLB might finally find something it is willing to discipline an umpire for?

Poor spelling?


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« Reply #150 on: October 24, 2019, 01:37:25 pm »
Poor spelling?
That or threatening to commit mass murder.
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« Reply #151 on: October 24, 2019, 01:59:49 pm »
Poor spelling?


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« Reply #152 on: October 24, 2019, 03:12:12 pm »
Just heard "Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley", which I hadn't heard in a while. Some of the lyrics seem apt:

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Trying to double talk
Get myself in trouble talk,
Catching myself in lies,
Catching myself in lies
I remember all the good times me 'n Miller enjoyed
Up and down the M1 in some luminous yo-yo toy
But the future has to change - and to change I've got to destroy
Oh look out Lennon here I come - land ahoy-hoy-hoy

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« Reply #153 on: October 24, 2019, 03:35:44 pm »
Taubman has been FIRED. 
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« Reply #154 on: October 24, 2019, 03:40:02 pm »
And the Astros have clearly hired a new PR person based on the statement they released over the firing
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« Reply #155 on: October 24, 2019, 03:40:20 pm »
Taubman has been FIRED.

BOOM! Best Astros news I’ve read all week.

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« Reply #157 on: October 24, 2019, 03:41:38 pm »
"We were wrong. We sincerely apologize..."

Better late than never.
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« Reply #158 on: October 24, 2019, 03:44:52 pm »
Luhnow will address the media at 5:15 CT
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« Reply #159 on: October 24, 2019, 03:45:31 pm »
Taubman has been FIRED.
This was the appropriate response, even if a little late.


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