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Re: Latest Controversy
« Reply #100 on: October 22, 2019, 04:51:56 pm »
Yep.

Glad you know what no one else does. Ivory tower judgmental bullshit.

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« Reply #101 on: October 22, 2019, 04:52:38 pm »
NPR’s David Folkenflik added this:

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NEWS: Astros assistant GM Brandon Taubman was targeting a female reporter wearing a purple bracelet on domestic violence.

She has tweeted frequently on DV; he complained about her tweets offering info on DV hotlines when Roberto Osuna appeared in Astros games in 2018

I know of one reporter well known to the Astros that tweeted out the DV hotline number every time Osuna appeared last year, and that is one Alyson Footer.


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Re: Latest Controversy
« Reply #102 on: October 22, 2019, 04:56:18 pm »
So officially "apologizing" not only didnt make it go away but now "official investigations into the incident" immediately ramp up? Shocking.

Other than the fact that they didn’t apologize, nor did they say shit about smearing the reporter and calling her a liar....after admitting she was correct.   Listen to AJ, that’s how it should’ve been handled.
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« Reply #103 on: October 22, 2019, 05:02:14 pm »
Glad you know what no one else does. Ivory tower judgmental bullshit.

My bad for opening this thread. I am going to the game.

Hahaha.  Thanks Jim.  My bad for revisiting the sub.
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« Reply #104 on: October 22, 2019, 05:06:58 pm »
No apology was ever going to be viewed as a real apology, thats why I put "apologized" in quotes.  All thats really been accomplished is admitting guilt, especially with regard to now seemingly conflicting statements by the organization.  So now everyone gets to yap about what punishment they think everyone involved should get, instead of about what actually happened.

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« Reply #105 on: October 22, 2019, 05:12:06 pm »
Glad you know what no one else does. Ivory tower judgmental bullshit.

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You do a better job unnecessarily defending osuna than taubman, but with similar results.
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Re: Latest Controversy
« Reply #107 on: October 22, 2019, 05:19:00 pm »
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Re: Latest Controversy
« Reply #108 on: October 22, 2019, 05:21:39 pm »
NPR’s David Folkenflik added this:

I know of one reporter well known to the Astros that tweeted out the DV hotline number every time Osuna appeared last year, and that is one Alyson Footer.



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« Reply #109 on: October 22, 2019, 05:28:09 pm »
Glad you know what no one else does. Ivory tower judgmental bullshit.

What no one else does. Not true. What you elect not to know, perhaps. I have told you and others again and again that the details of what occurred are known by many. I know them. You know who else knows them? Footer. She is sufficiently disturbed by what she knows to, as MM pointed out, continue to promote a domestic violence hotline.

I'll just say one last thing about the Osuna incident, and that is he is damned lucky that what he did didn't kill her.
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« Reply #110 on: October 22, 2019, 05:32:13 pm »
No apology was ever going to be viewed as a real apology, thats why I put "apologized" in quotes.  All thats really been accomplished is admitting guilt, especially with regard to now seemingly conflicting statements by the organization.  So now everyone gets to yap about what punishment they think everyone involved should get, instead of about what actually happened.

100% horseshit.   Astros employee was a complete shitbag, but he shouldn’t “apologize” because you don’t think some people think that is enough.  GTFO.   If someone does something shitty, they should apologize, unless they are complete trash or raised by wolves.
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« Reply #111 on: October 22, 2019, 06:05:55 pm »
All of this seems like its just PR though, not real feelings or real compassion or whatever.  Does Taubman really think he did something shitty?  Judging by waiting two days, having the story come out and basically nothing, it doesnt seem so.  His "apology" after that doesnt seem so.  Do the astros feel like they did something shitty that they need to apologize for? It doesnt seem so, they didnt say anything when asked to comment about it beforehand, they blasted the story and journalist as irresponsible after it came out, and now finally I guess they have also kinda sorta "apologized"

I think if you apologize you should hopefully mean it, or at the very minimum at least seem like you actually meant it.  And...basically yes, I think that an obviouslyinsincere apology actually is far worse than just not apologizing at all.
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« Reply #112 on: October 22, 2019, 06:11:27 pm »
NPR’s David Folkenflik added this:

She has tweeted frequently on DV; he complained about her tweets offering info on DV hotlines when Roberto Osuna appeared in Astros games in 2018


I know of one reporter well known to the Astros that tweeted out the DV hotline number every time Osuna appeared last year, and that is one Alyson Footer.


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Re: Latest Controversy
« Reply #113 on: October 22, 2019, 06:22:58 pm »
No apology was ever going to be viewed as a real apology, thats why I put "apologized" in quotes.  All thats really been accomplished is admitting guilt, especially with regard to now seemingly conflicting statements by the organization.  So now everyone gets to yap about what punishment they think everyone involved should get, instead of about what actually happened.
Again, they should have fired his ass. We wouldn’t be discussing this now.


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Re: Latest Controversy
« Reply #114 on: October 22, 2019, 06:28:20 pm »
MLB is now launching a full scale investigation into the incident.

Also the Baseball Writers Association is calling for the Astros to publicly apologize for the incident.


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Not that I apologise too much anyway...
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Re: Latest Controversy
« Reply #115 on: October 22, 2019, 06:38:11 pm »
now finally I guess they have also kinda sorta "apologized"

The Astros haven't apologized in any sort of official capacity.  Not to (apparently) Footer, not to SI, not to anyone.  So we are left to wonder which is true: either they truly think they don't have anything to apologize for, or they don't know how to apologize.  We are also left to wonder which is worse.

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Re: Latest Controversy
« Reply #116 on: October 22, 2019, 06:46:31 pm »
OK, I call for no posts in this thread during the game....got 15 minutes,
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Re: Latest Controversy
« Reply #117 on: October 22, 2019, 06:47:08 pm »
OK, I call for no posts in this thread during the game....got 15 minutes,

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Re: Latest Controversy
« Reply #118 on: October 22, 2019, 07:06:08 pm »
OK, I call for no posts in this thread during the game....got 15 minutes,

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Re: Latest Controversy
« Reply #119 on: October 23, 2019, 10:56:16 am »
Well aren't you all a woke bunch.  So. Stinkin'. Cute.
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