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Rotation Games 4.5.6.7
« on: October 16, 2019, 10:11:04 am »
Need to win 2 of the next 4.

Sounds like lots of options for the next 4.

I'd go.  Grienke Thursday, Urquidy, Friday Verlander Saturday, Cole Sunday.
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Re: Rotation Games 4.5.6.7
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2019, 10:18:55 am »
If tonight’s game gets postponed until tomorrow, I’d flip Verlander and Urquidy in your order.  Verlander won’t be fazed by pitching in Yankee Stadium in October, and he’s on normal rest Friday.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2019, 10:33:32 am »
If tonight’s game gets postponed until tomorrow, I’d flip Verlander and Urquidy in your order.  Verlander won’t be fazed by pitching in Yankee Stadium in October, and he’s on normal rest Friday.

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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2019, 10:36:40 am »
If tonight’s game gets postponed until tomorrow, I’d flip Verlander and Urquidy in your order.  Verlander won’t be fazed by pitching in Yankee Stadium in October, and he’s on normal rest Friday.

In the playoffs not going with Verlander Friday is too much of a headgame.  You play to win the game in front of you. That means Verlander as soon as he's on full rest. Greinke tomorrow, Verlander Friday.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2019, 12:00:42 pm »
Hinch announced Grienke tomorrow and JV Friday per MLB.
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2019, 12:02:48 pm »
Boone hasn't officially said so, but it's probably going to be Tanaka vs Grienke On Thursday. Grienke pitched O.K. in Game 1 but can pitch much better. Tanaka can't pitch much better than he did in Game 1 and I don't think he can keep the Astros' offense down a second time.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2019, 12:06:26 pm »
Boone hasn't officially said so, but it's probably going to be Tanaka vs Grienke On Thursday. Grienke pitched O.K. in Game 1 but can pitch much better. Tanaka can't pitch much better than he did in Game 1 and I don't think he can keep the Astros' offense down a second time.

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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2019, 12:15:03 pm »
Hope so on both points.
I'm hoping Tanaka Tonic is just the thing for what ails Yordan. He can catch up to the fastball and pull the breaking pitch into the upper deck.

I'm going to meditate on these three things: Yordan Alvarez, breaking pitch, and upper deck.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2019, 12:21:15 pm »
I'm hoping Tanaka Tonic is just the thing for what ails Yordan. He can catch up to the fastball and pull the breaking pitch into the upper deck.

I'm going to meditate on these three things: Yordan Alvarez, breaking pitch, and upper deck.

Just make sure you're connecting all three of those things while he's in the batter's box.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2019, 12:39:09 pm »
In the playoffs not going with Verlander Friday is too much of a headgame.  You play to win the game in front of you. That means Verlander as soon as he's on full rest. Greinke tomorrow, Verlander Friday.

Following that train of thought, it should be Cole Saturday (if necessary) and all hands on deck (including Verlander, Greinke, and probably even Cole) on Sunday (if necessary)
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2019, 12:45:22 pm »
Following that train of thought, it should be Cole Saturday (if necessary) and all hands on deck (including Verlander, Greinke, and probably even Cole) on Sunday (if necessary)

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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2019, 12:45:51 pm »
Following that train of thought, it should be Cole Saturday (if necessary) and all hands on deck (including Verlander, Greinke, and probably even Cole) on Sunday (if necessary)
I wouldn't pitch Cole on short rest unless we were facing elimination.

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2019, 12:46:18 pm »
Following that train of thought, it should be Cole Saturday (if necessary) and all hands on deck (including Verlander, Greinke, and probably even Cole) on Sunday (if necessary)
If the Astros can win one of the next two games, I would think Cole gets Sunday on normal rest, if necessary and Johnny Allstaff on Saturday.
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2019, 12:50:10 pm »
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I wouldn't pitch Cole on short rest unless we were facing elimination.

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If the Astros can win one of the next two games, I would think Cole gets Sunday on normal rest, if necessary and Johnny Allstaff on Saturday.

We already have precedent on this from the ALDS. Hinch will do everything in his power to win the game in front of him, and pitching Cole on short rest would be a better proposition than leaving it to the bullpen.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2019, 01:09:58 pm »
We already have precedent on this from the ALDS. Hinch will do everything in his power to win the game in front of him, and pitching Cole on short rest would be a better proposition than leaving it to the bullpen.

Assuming we're not on the verge of elimination, I disagree.

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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2019, 01:11:19 pm »
Yanks announce, Tanaka G4, Paxton G5.
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2019, 01:12:40 pm »
So bullpen vs bullpen G6, and Cole Severino G7?
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2019, 01:17:25 pm »
We already have precedent on this from the ALDS. Hinch will do everything in his power to win the game in front of him, and pitching Cole on short rest would be a better proposition than leaving it to the bullpen.

The difference being the length of the series.  In the LDS, you pitch Verlander in game 4 because there are only 2 games left and Cole has game 5.  Here, if you are not facing elimination in game 6 then you aren't risking going down without getting 2 games from your top 2.  The fact that Verlander struggled with command on short rest only furthers the argument against it.

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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2019, 02:26:21 pm »
The difference being the length of the series.  In the LDS, you pitch Verlander in game 4 because there are only 2 games left and Cole has game 5.  Here, if you are not facing elimination in game 6 then you aren't risking going down without getting 2 games from your top 2.  The fact that Verlander struggled with command on short rest only furthers the argument against it.

I don't even know that throwing Cole on short rest is an automatic decision even if the Astros leave NY down 3-2.  Best I can tell, Cole has never pitched on short rest so you have no real expectation of what he's going to give you.  And today's rainout will put a lot of stress on the Yankees bullpen if Tanaka and Paxton don't go deep into their games.  Depending on the finer details of games 4-5 I might be content letting game 6 be bullpen vs. bullpen anyway.

Of course, we all hope there is no game 6.

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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2019, 02:32:30 pm »
I have a hard time believing that the Astros are going to sweep the Yankees in New York.  I am cautiously confident that we will win one of the two games.  Which means going back to Houston up 3-2.  Not sure how the Yankees go with a bullpen day in game 6 if they are facing elimination.  So Yankees start Severino game 6.  I'd go Urquidy because I don't want to start Cole on short rest.
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