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Re: Greinke
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2019, 08:55:27 pm »
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2019, 05:28:00 am »
Favorite Greinke quote so far is from last night:

Reporter:  “Zach, what do you think about being up 3-1 early?”
Greinke: “It’s better than not being up 3-1”
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2019, 06:44:35 am »
Favorite Greinke quote so far is from last night:

Reporter:  “Zach, what do you think about being up 3-1 early?”
Greinke: “It’s better than not being up 3-1”
I don't know if it's intentional (actually it might be) but Zach's simplistic answers usually demonstrate the idiocy of the question being asked.  What do think about being up 3-1?  What do you think?  We're on the road in a hostile environment, who wouldn't want to be 3-1 given the chance.

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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2019, 09:33:24 am »
I don't know if it's intentional (actually it might be) but Zach's simplistic answers usually demonstrate the idiocy of the question being asked.  What do think about being up 3-1?  What do you think?  We're on the road in a hostile environment, who wouldn't want to be 3-1 given the chance.

I'm sure the intent of the question was more like "does having a lead change your approach out there at all, and if so, how?"  But it was awkwardly worded. 
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2019, 09:47:58 am »
I'm sure the intent of the question was more like "does having a lead change your approach out there at all, and if so, how?"  But it was awkwardly worded.

But also I think a lot of times sports reports lob softballs like that just to give the player a chance to talk about the game however he wants. That was certainly the case with the question to Desaun Watson that made the rounds a few weeks ago. Ask a fairly obvious question, and Watson gave a very insightful and informative response.
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2019, 09:51:09 am »
I'm sure the intent of the question was more like "does having a lead change your approach out there at all, and if so, how?"  But it was awkwardly worded.
I think you are giving the reporter too much credit here.
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2019, 10:13:01 am »
A radio show here makes fun of post game questions that begins with "Talk about".

Talk about ....

Getting a lead
Losing a lead
Being tied
Breaking a tie
Winning
Losing


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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2019, 11:18:11 am »
I don't know if it's intentional (actually it might be) but Zach's simplistic answers usually demonstrate the idiocy of the question being asked.  What do think about being up 3-1?  What do you think?  We're on the road in a hostile environment, who wouldn't want to be 3-1 given the chance.

It's like the reporters have never encountered or considered how to interview a neurodivergent person.  Asking two simple questions would typically give them the responses they crave so much:

1) Is there anything you'd like to tell me about the game today?  Risk there is a simple answer of "no" may be the outcome.  But, just as easily, they'd get a stream of consciousness response with tons of nuggets.  Or,

2) What is interesting to you lately?  It's a great question to get someone on the spectrum or who suffers with any number of anxiety disorders to information dump in areas that are interesting to them.  A great way get a peek into their thoughts and thought processes.  The risk there is he may info dump on Starbucks, or hitting or peanut butter cups or butterflies or Princess Bride or any of the things Greinke is known to be interested in but there is also usually really interesting things to write about in there too.

The longterm upside is interest-based trust is developed over time, which promotes more openness and transparency. 
Another trenchant comment by a jealous lesser intellect.

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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2019, 12:21:50 pm »
Favorite Greinke quote so far is from last night:

Reporter:  “Zach, what do you think about being up 3-1 early?”
Greinke: “It’s better than not being up 3-1”
But not as good as being up 4-1.
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« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2019, 12:26:07 pm »
I think you are giving the reporter too much credit here.

Absolutely correct.

Sports reporters and broadcasters (even the great Craig Way) rarely ask good questions these days. Usually it is suggesting the answer like “How great is it your team is up 3-1 in the ALCS?”

ETA: after the first inning (the wind blown pop fly and HPU on Encarnacion hurt him), he was very good. I was really rooting for him to get through five or six innings.
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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2019, 12:43:16 pm »
Yeah, he did a great job. It has to give him some more confidence that he can perform in these big games.

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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2019, 12:44:34 pm »
It's like the reporters have never encountered or considered how to interview a neurodivergent person.  Asking two simple questions would typically give them the responses they crave so much:

1) Is there anything you'd like to tell me about the game today?  Risk there is a simple answer of "no" may be the outcome.  But, just as easily, they'd get a stream of consciousness response with tons of nuggets.  Or,

2) What is interesting to you lately?  It's a great question to get someone on the spectrum or who suffers with any number of anxiety disorders to information dump in areas that are interesting to them.  A great way get a peek into their thoughts and thought processes.  The risk there is he may info dump on Starbucks, or hitting or peanut butter cups or butterflies or Princess Bride or any of the things Greinke is known to be interested in but there is also usually really interesting things to write about in there too.

The longterm upside is interest-based trust is developed over time, which promotes more openness and transparency.

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« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2019, 12:53:53 pm »
It's like the reporters have never encountered or considered how to interview a neurodivergent person.  Asking two simple questions would typically give them the responses they crave so much:

1) Is there anything you'd like to tell me about the game today?  Risk there is a simple answer of "no" may be the outcome.  But, just as easily, they'd get a stream of consciousness response with tons of nuggets.  Or,

2) What is interesting to you lately?  It's a great question to get someone on the spectrum or who suffers with any number of anxiety disorders to information dump in areas that are interesting to them.  A great way get a peek into their thoughts and thought processes.  The risk there is he may info dump on Starbucks, or hitting or peanut butter cups or butterflies or Princess Bride or any of the things Greinke is known to be interested in but there is also usually really interesting things to write about in there too.

The longterm upside is interest-based trust is developed over time, which promotes more openness and transparency.
That's brilliant das. Do you have people in your life on the spectrum?

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« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2019, 01:46:45 pm »
That's brilliant das. Do you have people in your life on the spectrum?

Yes, a fair number.  As well as some with social anxiety with co-morbid depression and a fair number of other neurodivergences.  Some of my kids, some of their biological family members, things like that.  Plus, my wife is a psychologist and practicing therapist at a Center for Anxiety Care here in the northeast so I hear all the stories and latest research trends...

Edited to add:  I offhandedly mentioned that the Astros picked up a neurodivergent pitcher at the trade deadline at the dinner table with my family and it generated 2 hours of really interesting and fun conversation with the family.  The could care less about baseball but all loved that the Astros were inclusive enough to recognized the value he would provide and not fearful or discriminatory about his behaviors.  They all pulled out their phones (usually not allowed at the dinner table) and started reading off quotes and comments about Greinke that are publicly available.
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Another trenchant comment by a jealous lesser intellect.

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« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2019, 02:11:26 pm »
Great story about your family dinner table convo. Maybe the astros front office gets in front of this and does a little training on how to have a more interesting interaction with ZG. As funny as the interactions have been, i'd love to hear a competant journalist engage him.

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« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2019, 02:48:53 pm »
This also got me to thinking... does anyone know Bregman’s link to autism? I know his foundation works to provide technology assistance to kids on the spectrum, and he’s working to open a school dedicated to kids on the spectrum.


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« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2019, 03:27:46 pm »
This also got me to thinking... does anyone know Bregman’s link to autism? I know his foundation works to provide technology assistance to kids on the spectrum, and he’s working to open a school dedicated to kids on the spectrum.

I assume there are other connections, but the son of his longtime hitting instructor and friend is autistic.
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« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2019, 03:34:38 pm »
I assume there are other connections, but the son of his longtime hitting instructor and friend is autistic.
Doubt Bregman needs much motivation to be a mensch. So glad he's an Astro.

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« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2019, 05:16:28 pm »
I assume there are other connections, but the son of his longtime hitting instructor and friend is autistic.

For some reason I though that son was also his godson.
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« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2019, 05:50:18 pm »
I assume there are other connections, but the son of his longtime hitting instructor and friend is autistic.

Didn't know this.  Thanks.

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