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Re: Tucker
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2019, 09:43:01 pm »
Not necessarily. The Astros have three good outfielders through 2020. They could use another starting pitcher. You can think Tucker has great value but think the team is best served by converting that to value at another position.

You said it better than I did. I agree.
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2019, 09:44:38 pm »
For the sake of argument, imagine that the Giants insisted on Alvarez in exchange for Bumgarner. Would you do that trade?
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2019, 09:52:45 pm »
For the sake of argument, imagine that the Giants insisted on Alvarez in exchange for Bumgarner. Would you do that trade?
I would not. Nor would I trade Tucker for Bumgarner

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Re: Tucker
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2019, 10:11:13 pm »
For the sake of argument, imagine that the Giants insisted on Alvarez in exchange for Bumgarner. Would you do that trade?

Hell no. He is untouchable.
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2019, 10:12:27 pm »
I would not. Nor would I trade Tucker for Bumgarner

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For whom would you trade Tucker?
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2019, 10:13:31 pm »
For whom would you trade Tucker?
For more than half a season of a pretty good but no longer great pitcher

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Re: Tucker
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2019, 10:16:35 pm »
For more than half a season of a pretty good but no longer great pitcher

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That did not answer the question.
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2019, 10:17:14 pm »
If anyone demanded Alvarez I think I would be too busy laughing to tell them to go fuck themselves.
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2019, 10:24:05 pm »
That did not answer the question.
I'd think about for Stroman. There aren't that many really good pitchers on bad teams with moveable contracts or enough club control for me to fully justify it.

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Re: Tucker
« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2019, 10:38:13 pm »
I'd think about for Stroman. There aren't that many really good pitchers on bad teams with moveable contracts or enough club control for me to fully justify it.

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Not an answer either. You would not have traded for Verlander, probably. Three great prospects for only one player?

I would trade Tucker to get a frontline starter. We need someone who is at least a 2 on his staff. If we do not trade Tucker, that is fine, but where is he going to play and when if there is no injury to one of the four OFers? That pits him against Kemp. He has become tradable, I think, but Luhnow has to act like he is not.
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #50 on: May 17, 2019, 10:50:44 pm »
Not an answer either. You would not have traded for Verlander, probably. Three great prospects for only one player?

I would trade Tucker to get a frontline starter. We need someone who is at least a 2 on his staff. If we do not trade Tucker, that is fine, but where is he going to play and when if there is no injury to one of the four OFers? That pits him against Kemp. He has become tradable, I think, but Luhnow has to act like he is not.
I was screaming from the hilltops on August 1st 2017 that the Astros made a mistake by NOT trading for Verlander. I was ecstatic when they pulled the deal off a month later. And the Astros did not trade "three great prospects" for JV, not of those 3 are even close to highly touted as Tucker. For that matter, Bumgarner is not JV. I love Bumgarner, have for a long time, but he hasn't been a number 2, in 3 years. I'm not trading a top prospect for a, currently, number 3 starter.

Stroman is a number 2, I'll trade Tucker for that. Robbie Ray is a guy I really like and would probably trade Tucker for. Zack Greinke, if he was healthy would be a great addition if the contract could be added. Not Bumgarner.

If you can get Bumgarner without giving up Whitley, Tucker or Alvarez then pull the trigger. If you can't, it isn't worth the risk.

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Re: Tucker
« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2019, 10:52:32 pm »
I did not say that.

My bad!

There was some thread somewhere in which I implied that from something you might have said or I misinterpreted where I got that vibe.

Alvarez is obviously the hot ticket right now but a year ago (or was it more?) Tucker was “cant miss” for all of us. I hope someone pans out. Can’t have too much outfield depth.

Or... is Luhnow’s plan to make Alvarez the spot OF but mainly DH/1B and Tucker the corner OF for the future. Maybe we might all be too hung up on Kemp let alone White.

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Re: Tucker
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2019, 05:18:15 am »
Tucker's first 12 games:  4-42, .095 /.174 /.190 /.364

Since then:  .303 /.380 /.719 /1.099   
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #53 on: May 18, 2019, 08:30:57 am »
Bumgarner also has more home runs than Tyler White.  So there's that to consider...
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #54 on: May 18, 2019, 08:47:32 am »
Bumgarner also has more home runs than Tyler White.  So there's that to consider...
I have as many homers as White

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Re: Tucker
« Reply #55 on: May 18, 2019, 09:24:43 am »
Tucker's first 12 games:  4-42, .095 /.174 /.190 /.364

Since then:  .303 /.380 /.719 /1.099

We know this. He has begun to hit. The Astros cannot keep them all and should not want to keep blocked prospects until they are no longer wanted by other org.

Brantley, Springer, Reddick, Marisnick. Who does Tucker replace? He is an OF and only an OF. Does he replace Kemp? Kemp showed his versatility and value last night when Diaz went down. If there is no room for him, how long do you keep him in AAA?
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #56 on: May 18, 2019, 09:26:00 am »
My bad!

There was some thread somewhere in which I implied that from something you might have said or I misinterpreted where I got that vibe.

Alvarez is obviously the hot ticket right now but a year ago (or was it more?) Tucker was “cant miss” for all of us. I hope someone pans out. Can’t have too much outfield depth.

Or... is Luhnow’s plan to make Alvarez the spot OF but mainly DH/1B and Tucker the corner OF for the future. Maybe we might all be too hung up on Kemp let alone White.

You inferred incorrectly, and I did not imply bad attitude or poor work ethic.
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #57 on: May 18, 2019, 09:40:02 am »
I have as many homers as White

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And you have only one fewer homer than the Marlins have as a team this month.


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Re: Tucker
« Reply #58 on: May 18, 2019, 06:22:40 pm »
We know this
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I hope he keeps killing it and is the centerpiece for a playoff starter.
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #59 on: May 18, 2019, 06:52:04 pm »
Who is "we" white man?

I hope he keeps killing it and is the centerpiece for a playoff starter.
"We" may know this already, but I was looking at the stats today and noticed that Tucker & Alvarez have the same number of May HR.  Whooda thunk?
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