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Re: Corpus Christi 2019
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2019, 08:26:29 am »
The first five batters were the good Whitley. The rest were ass.

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Re: Corpus Christi 2019
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2019, 08:29:01 am »
Have they ruined this guy?
I am certainly worried about him and his future, but I don’t buy into the narrative that they did anything wrong.

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Re: Corpus Christi 2019
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2019, 10:39:32 am »
The first five batters were the good Whitley. The rest were ass.

GM on Sunday's broadcast said his struggle is related to FB command. 
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« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2019, 10:52:31 am »
Have they ruined this guy?

He's probably too young to conclude that, but this appears to be his second lost season in a row.
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Re: Corpus Christi 2019
« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2019, 12:01:44 pm »
I am certainly worried about him and his future, but I don’t buy into the narrative that they did anything wrong.

Rushing him to AAA and saying for publication they expected him in Houston in 2019 certainly was wrong.
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« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2019, 12:22:41 pm »
Rushing him to AAA and saying for publication they expected him in Houston in 2019 certainly was wrong.
Aren't there quotes from Luhnow admitting they rushed him?
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Re: Corpus Christi 2019
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2019, 01:18:37 pm »
Aren't there quotes from Luhnow admitting they rushed him?

Dunno. My view. Have no idea what he thinks.

ETA: let me hasten to add I believed the koolaid. I thought he’d be in the rotation by August. I did not say “uh oh” until I saw the results and heard about his demeanor in RR.
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« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2019, 02:17:38 pm »
Dunno. My view. Have no idea what he thinks.

ETA: let me hasten to add I believed the koolaid. I thought he’d be in the rotation by August. I did not say “uh oh” until I saw the results and heard about his demeanor in RR.

I certainly though we'd see him in the rotation. 

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« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2019, 05:17:46 pm »
Luhnow also said he will likely pitch this fall.  I would expect a repeat of the Arizona Fall League which is a bit unusual.
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Re: Corpus Christi 2019
« Reply #49 on: August 23, 2019, 08:19:44 am »
Forrest Whitley went 5 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 4 BB, 9 K

Starts game BB, BB, double steal, Wild Pitch on steal run scores,  Triple.  Then strikes out the side.
2nd inning: K, BB, CS, KL
3rd Inning: Single, Picked off/Caught Stealing, F7, 1-3
4th inning: IF Single, F9, K (FT), BB, KL
5th inning: K, K, F7

Threw 88 pitches/49 for strikes

Video of his 9th K is enbedded in the game story
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« Reply #50 on: August 23, 2019, 09:02:09 am »
To me, even the last K illustrates Whitley: very inconsistent or losing his delivery from pitch to pitch. 

I think I saw peak Whitley last year, where he had almost a full game of repeating his delivery and only a few short stretches where he lost it. I’ve also seen ass Whitley this year where he couldn’t throw two pitches in a row the way he intended.  Now, he seems back to having a bit more good stretches than bad.

My hope, even from last year, is that it is related to body type (lanky with a somewhat uncoordinated lower half) and it will improve with physical maturation and repetition. 

There’s been talk about his immaturity and maybe that’s true and a fatal flaw. Hope that’s not the case, cause when he repeats, he dominates.

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« Reply #51 on: August 23, 2019, 10:56:55 am »
To me, even the last K illustrates Whitley: very inconsistent or losing his delivery from pitch to pitch. 

I think I saw peak Whitley last year, where he had almost a full game of repeating his delivery and only a few short stretches where he lost it. I’ve also seen ass Whitley this year where he couldn’t throw two pitches in a row the way he intended.  Now, he seems back to having a bit more good stretches than bad.

My hope, even from last year, is that it is related to body type (lanky with a somewhat uncoordinated lower half) and it will improve with physical maturation and repetition. 

There’s been talk about his immaturity and maybe that’s true and a fatal flaw. Hope that’s not the case, cause when he repeats, he dominates.

I was stunned by his body when I saw him in Spring training couple years. He was all legs and hips.

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« Reply #52 on: August 23, 2019, 11:21:49 am »
Did you get to see the Saturday game? Combined shutout. Javier with 10 SOs. He has pretty much mastered AA. I wonder if he will get a AAA start this year.

I did not. That would have been a good one to go to.
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Re: Corpus Christi 2019
« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2019, 11:27:20 am »
To me, even the last K illustrates Whitley: very inconsistent or losing his delivery from pitch to pitch. 

I think I saw peak Whitley last year, where he had almost a full game of repeating his delivery and only a few short stretches where he lost it. I’ve also seen ass Whitley this year where he couldn’t throw two pitches in a row the way he intended.  Now, he seems back to having a bit more good stretches than bad.

My hope, even from last year, is that it is related to body type (lanky with a somewhat uncoordinated lower half) and it will improve with physical maturation and repetition. 

There’s been talk about his immaturity and maybe that’s true and a fatal flaw. Hope that’s not the case, cause when he repeats, he dominates.

Haven’t they completely changed his delivery? If so, I can see repeating being difficult, at least at first. Too much thinking going on.

I do not know about maturity but I heard criticism of his mental toughness.
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« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2019, 11:53:20 am »
Haven’t they completely changed his delivery? If so, I can see repeating being difficult, at least at first. Too much thinking going on.

I do not know about maturity but I heard criticism of his mental toughness.

As the video shows he's working from the stretch with no one on base.
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« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2019, 12:16:28 pm »
As the video shows he's working from the stretch with no one on base.

Is that one of the changes made?
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« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2019, 12:43:14 pm »
Is that one of the changes made?

Not one that I'd heard, but I think it would help him repeat new mechanics in the short term.
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« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2019, 01:02:52 pm »
Not one that I'd heard, but I think it would help him repeat new mechanics in the short term.

Martin used an abbreviated windup which looked a bit like the stretch, but, as you said, Whitley is pitching from the stretch.
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Re: Corpus Christi 2019
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2019, 01:41:26 pm »
I was stunned by his body when I saw him in Spring training couple years. He was all legs and hips.

He's lost a bunch of weight from what I saw his Sr year in HS.
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Re: Corpus Christi 2019
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2019, 04:15:16 pm »
He's lost a bunch of weight from what I saw his Sr year in HS.

Yes, I think I read about this. He was very big in HS.
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