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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #500 on: July 22, 2019, 05:34:34 pm »
AJ has been committed to giving guys scheduled rest days.  I bet he finds ways to work Straw into the lineup, or at least into games as a PR/defensive substitute in the OF.   And no, he's not as good a defensive CFer as Marisnick.   Note that similar to personal catchers, JVs personal CFer is Jake.

The odd man out seems to more likely be Kemp, but if he isn't traded before the roster crunch then Straw could go down since he has options and TK does not.

Kemp and Straw are very similar players, except for the RH/LH hitting thing.
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« Reply #501 on: July 22, 2019, 07:07:59 pm »
Kemp and Straw are very similar players, except for the RH/LH hitting thing.

Except Straw can play short and Kemp apparently can't.

Of course the Astros shortstop is usually stationed out in right field somewhere so maybe it doesn't matter too much.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #502 on: July 22, 2019, 07:10:10 pm »
AJ has been committed to giving guys scheduled rest days.  I bet he finds ways to work Straw into the lineup, or at least into games as a PR/defensive substitute in the OF.   And no, he's not as good a defensive CFer as Marisnick.   Note that similar to personal catchers, JVs personal CFer is Jake.

The odd man out seems to more likely be Kemp, but if he isn't traded before the roster crunch then Straw could go down since he has options and TK does not.



Why does kemp need to be the odd man out?  Send Straw down, since he has options, when Correa returns.  keep Kemp on the roster so you don’t lose him.  Let Straw spend a month in the minors working at SS and bring him back up when the rosters expand in September.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #503 on: July 22, 2019, 08:38:04 pm »
Except Straw can play short and Kemp apparently can't.

Of course the Astros shortstop is usually stationed out in right field somewhere so maybe it doesn't matter too much.

I imagine Kemp could fill in at SS, and Straw could fill in at 2B. Emergencies only.
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« Reply #504 on: July 23, 2019, 09:04:54 am »
Kemp and Straw are very similar players, except for the RH/LH hitting thing.
Well. I’m gonna have to disagree with you on that one. Speed, power, OF defense (especially the arm) are all differences, with a significant edge to Straw except power where Kemp has the edge.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #505 on: July 23, 2019, 09:16:01 am »
Well. I’m gonna have to disagree with you on that one. Speed, power, OF defense (especially the arm) are all differences, with a significant edge to Straw except power where Kemp has the edge.

I said similar, not the same. They are similar players, and both can run. One is better in some things; the other is better in others. They are valuable pieces to the team and are occasional starters.
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« Reply #506 on: July 23, 2019, 09:44:54 am »
Why does kemp need to be the odd man out?  Send Straw down, since he has options, when Correa returns.  keep Kemp on the roster so you don’t lose him.  Let Straw spend a month in the minors working at SS and bring him back up when the rosters expand in September.

It seems like a no-brainer to me. The only wild card is if Kemp gets included in a trade which is entirely possible.

Is this the last year that rosters expand in September?
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« Reply #507 on: July 23, 2019, 09:51:23 am »
It seems like a no-brainer to me. The only wild card is if Kemp gets included in a trade which is entirely possible.

Is this the last year that rosters expand in September?
I agree that it’s seems like a no-brainer.  I thought this year rosters expand, but each day, it will be limited to 25.  I could easily be wrong though.

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« Reply #508 on: July 23, 2019, 10:07:37 am »
Of course, I was wrong. Research yielded this, starting in 2020, the same year it goes from 25 to 26:

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #509 on: July 23, 2019, 04:28:56 pm »
Josh James to the 10 day IL. Sneed up.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #510 on: July 23, 2019, 05:11:08 pm »
Josh James to the 10 day IL. Sneed up.

Explanation? This is not good. So much for “I am fine” pitcherspeak.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #511 on: July 23, 2019, 05:14:44 pm »
Shoulder soreness for James

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #512 on: July 23, 2019, 05:28:55 pm »
Pressly dealing with a bum knee

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #513 on: July 23, 2019, 05:32:26 pm »
Pressly dealing with a bum knee

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Obvious last night something was wrong. Glad it is not his arm, but the push off leg is bad enough.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #515 on: August 02, 2019, 06:11:49 pm »
Chirinos has a sore shoulder and won't play for a few days. Stubbs called up and Sneed optioned. They don't think it'll require an IL stint

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #516 on: August 04, 2019, 11:19:40 am »
Chirinos has a sore shoulder and won't play for a few days. Stubbs called up and Sneed optioned. They don't think it'll require an IL stint

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #517 on: August 04, 2019, 11:27:52 am »
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #518 on: August 04, 2019, 11:44:16 am »
Cubs probably wishing they hadn’t let go of Maldonado - Contreras back to IL for hamstring issue.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #519 on: August 04, 2019, 12:13:22 pm »
https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1158047545446338561?s=19

Well, damn. So much for my thoughts of his bullpen sessions with Sanchez the next few days.
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« Reply #520 on: August 09, 2019, 03:03:35 pm »
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« Reply #521 on: August 12, 2019, 12:01:06 pm »
Peacock's line yesterday - 0 outs, 2 hits, 2 walks, 4 earned runs. Some of those runs are probably due to lousy pitching by McCurry.
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« Reply #522 on: August 12, 2019, 03:48:27 pm »
Peacock's line yesterday - 0 outs, 2 hits, 2 walks, 4 earned runs. Some of those runs are probably due to lousy pitching by McCurry.

Peacock was pretty lousy too. His rehab outings have not been good.
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« Reply #523 on: August 12, 2019, 05:07:03 pm »
Peacock was pretty lousy too. His rehab outings have not been good.

Is there a limit to how long he can be on rehab before they have to make some sort of (presumably irreversible) move (like releasing him, or releasing somebody else to make room for him)?
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« Reply #524 on: August 12, 2019, 05:09:12 pm »
Is there a limit to how long he can be on rehab before they have to make some sort of (presumably irreversible) move (like releasing him, or releasing somebody else to make room for him)?

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« Reply #525 on: August 12, 2019, 05:19:30 pm »
Is there a limit to how long he can be on rehab before they have to make some sort of (presumably irreversible) move (like releasing him, or releasing somebody else to make room for him)?

20 days for position players, 30 days for pitchers.
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« Reply #526 on: August 12, 2019, 05:23:21 pm »
20 days for position players, 30 days for pitchers.

Thanks. I don't suppose it's possible to say he's not right and send him back to the IL. That would open the door to too many shenanigans.
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« Reply #527 on: August 12, 2019, 05:25:22 pm »
Thanks. I don't suppose it's possible to say he's not right and send him back to the IL. That would open the door to too many shenanigans.

They are expecting him in Chicago to be evaluated. Heard that on the radio yesterday.
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« Reply #528 on: August 12, 2019, 05:28:35 pm »
Thanks. I don't suppose it's possible to say he's not right and send him back to the IL. That would open the door to too many shenanigans.

He's currently on the IL and would stay on the IL if he's not ready. He just can't continue to play in the minors for that long while being designated injured.

It's not at all uncommon for a player to aggravate an injury while playing a rehab game and extend their stay on the IL.
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« Reply #529 on: August 12, 2019, 05:45:28 pm »
Brad started his rehab this month, so he won't have to be added to the active roster until after rosters expand

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« Reply #530 on: August 14, 2019, 10:18:11 am »
Brad started his rehab this month, so he won't have to be added to the active roster until after rosters expand

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« Reply #531 on: August 14, 2019, 12:57:35 pm »
The good news is he says he feels great; the bad news is he has been pitching lousy.

So he’s got that going for him, which is nice.


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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #532 on: August 14, 2019, 01:03:22 pm »
A.J. Hinch on Gerrit Cole's hamstring injury: "We’ll get him tested even further and see where this takes us, but he doesn’t think it’s that serious. I’m glad he told us and we hope that it’s mild.”
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« Reply #533 on: August 14, 2019, 05:53:40 pm »
"We got some good news," said Gerrit Cole about the results from the doc on his hamstring.  "Not super serious."  Getting treatment and see how it responds.

Edit: that was from a Julia tweet, btw.
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« Reply #534 on: August 14, 2019, 06:00:41 pm »
"We got some good news," said Gerrit Cole about the results from the doc on his hamstring.  "Not super serious."  Getting treatment and see how it responds.

Edit: that was from a Julia tweet, btw.

I watched an interview of him. Said that.
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« Reply #535 on: August 14, 2019, 06:33:43 pm »
"Not super serious" == "Amputation not recommended at this time"
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« Reply #536 on: August 15, 2019, 07:42:59 am »
"Not super serious" == "Amputation not recommended at this time"

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« Reply #537 on: August 15, 2019, 09:55:41 am »
It’s just a flesh wound.


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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #538 on: August 15, 2019, 12:09:45 pm »
AJ on Cole,  via Bowden:

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« Reply #539 on: August 15, 2019, 01:21:30 pm »
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« Reply #542 on: August 15, 2019, 06:39:23 pm »
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« Reply #543 on: August 17, 2019, 08:43:42 am »
Has anybody heard anything about James recently?
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« Reply #544 on: August 17, 2019, 09:30:54 am »
Has anybody heard anything about James recently?

I believe he's headed to Florida to start ramping up his recovery.  Still expected back in September.

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« Reply #545 on: August 17, 2019, 07:22:56 pm »
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« Reply #546 on: August 18, 2019, 11:47:04 am »
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« Reply #547 on: August 18, 2019, 12:27:19 pm »
Aledmys Diaz to IL for foul off top of foot, Sneed recalled.

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« Reply #548 on: August 18, 2019, 01:14:40 pm »
Aledmys Diaz to IL for foul off top of foot, Sneed recalled.

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« Reply #549 on: August 18, 2019, 01:27:40 pm »
Aledmys Diaz to IL for foul off top of foot, Sneed recalled.

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Diaz is going on IL because he became light-headed and dizzy on the bus on the way to ballpark yesterday and went to hospital. No official diagnosis, but he should be fine.

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« Reply #550 on: August 18, 2019, 02:08:09 pm »
New McTaggart mctweet:

Diaz is going on IL because he became light-headed and dizzy on the bus on the way to ballpark yesterday and went to hospital. No official diagnosis, but he should be fine.

No diagnosis, and they know he'll be fine, but it's going to last 10 days?
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« Reply #551 on: August 18, 2019, 02:33:33 pm »
No diagnosis, and they know he'll be fine, but it's going to last 10 days?

The Astros' medical staff works in mysterious ways.
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« Reply #552 on: August 18, 2019, 03:06:06 pm »
The Astros' medical staff works in mysterious ways.

I suspect they need the extra arm now. Diaz is probably fine.

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« Reply #553 on: August 18, 2019, 03:12:42 pm »
I suspect they need the extra arm now. Diaz is probably fine.

That’s where I was going. Sounds like playing games with the IL.
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« Reply #554 on: August 18, 2019, 03:13:32 pm »
I sure hope he's okay.
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« Reply #555 on: August 20, 2019, 04:36:08 pm »
Correa out of the lineup today and unavailable for comment.

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« Reply #556 on: August 20, 2019, 04:40:32 pm »
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« Reply #557 on: August 20, 2019, 04:42:50 pm »
Correa out of the lineup today and unavailable for comment.

That latter part disturbs me.


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« Reply #558 on: August 20, 2019, 04:43:24 pm »
The next degree of worry will come if/when they make an IL announcement.

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« Reply #559 on: August 20, 2019, 04:43:27 pm »
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« Reply #560 on: August 20, 2019, 05:41:29 pm »
I’m planning on Correa being out for the rest of the season. Anything less will be a pleasant surprise.

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« Reply #561 on: August 20, 2019, 05:47:09 pm »
I think Carlos may have just one more year to show he can play a full season. His injury history is becoming a threat to his career potential. He is at least at some risk of having to become a Bill Spiers type player. One with superb talent but only able to play part-time because of back issues.

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« Reply #562 on: August 20, 2019, 06:08:04 pm »
I think Carlos may have just one more year to show he can play a full season. His injury history is becoming a threat to his career potential. He is at least at some risk of having to become a Bill Spiers type player. One with superb talent but only able to play part-time because of back issues.

Of course I could be, and hopefully am, wrong.

I have had two back surgeries for herniated discs. Instant cure, and easy rehab. Maybe this offseason he will fix this.
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« Reply #563 on: August 20, 2019, 06:09:53 pm »
I think Carlos may have just one more year to show he can play a full season. His injury history is becoming a threat to his career potential. He is at least at some risk of having to become a Bill Spiers type player. One with superb talent but only able to play part-time because of back issues.

Of course I could be, and hopefully am, wrong.

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« Reply #564 on: August 20, 2019, 06:11:54 pm »
I think Carlos may have just one more year to show he can play a full season. His injury history is becoming a threat to his career potential. He is at least at some risk of having to become a Bill Spiers type player. One with superb talent but only able to play part-time because of back issues.

Of course I could be, and hopefully am, wrong.

You don't give up on talent like he has.

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« Reply #565 on: August 20, 2019, 06:36:17 pm »
You don't give up on talent like he has.

True, but isn't there an inverse relationship b/t his potential value as a player vs the risk that he may be getting significant portion of each years guaranteed money as a resident of the IL.
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« Reply #566 on: August 20, 2019, 06:51:46 pm »
All depends on what this is,  whether it's the same as last season's injury,  and whether there's a fix.

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« Reply #567 on: August 20, 2019, 07:07:17 pm »
I have had two back surgeries for herniated discs. Instant cure, and easy rehab. Maybe this offseason he will fix this.

I too have had a discectomy.  Modern medicine is a wonderful thing.  But if his problem is that, as he gets older, his back musculature can't handle the stress of everyday play...
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« Reply #568 on: August 20, 2019, 07:31:44 pm »
All depends on what this is,  whether it's the same as last season's injury,  and whether there's a fix.

All questions that those of us outside the organization know diddley squat about.

There is a fix for disc issues.

The good thing is Yuli hits behind Yordan for awhile.
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« Reply #569 on: August 20, 2019, 07:52:53 pm »
There is a fix for disc issues.

The good thing is Yuli hits behind Yordan for awhile.

Not really. Not for peak performance. As a normally functioning human... sure... they really can’t fix bad discs for an elite athlete.. degenerative is an important word. I hope I’m wrong.
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Not really. Not for peak performance. As a normally functioning human... sure... they really can’t fix bad discs for an elite athlete.. degenerative is an important word. I hope I’m wrong.

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« Reply #571 on: August 20, 2019, 10:14:57 pm »
I think Carlos may have just one more year to show he can play a full season. His injury history is becoming a threat to his career potential. He is at least at some risk of having to become a Bill Spiers type player. One with superb talent but only able to play part-time because of back issues.

Of course I could be, and hopefully am, wrong.

All I know is that I was wrong about Correa. I thought that we had the next A-Rod. Wellsir, he's not even in the same stratosphere with A Rod. Good player? Yes. All Star. If healthy, maybe. There are better shortstops in the game, e.g., Lindor. And then this injury crap. Untouchable? Definitely not. Sell high. But sell.
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« Reply #572 on: August 20, 2019, 10:27:07 pm »
You are fucking wrong. Where did you go to med school?


 Do you suffer from degenerative disc disease? I do. It has altered the last 25 years of my life. Maybe you can recommend a doctor....?

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« Reply #573 on: August 20, 2019, 10:31:39 pm »
Correa and Sanchez both to the IL.  Sanchez with a pec issue hence the reduced velocity tonight.
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 Do you suffer from degenerative disc disease? I do. It has altered the last 25 years of my life. Maybe you can recommend a doctor....?

I have had two disc surgeries which were instant cures. Easy rehab. Neurosurgeon is a must.
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« Reply #575 on: August 20, 2019, 10:40:07 pm »
Correa and Sanchez both to the IL.  Sanchez with a pec issue hence the reduced velocity tonight.

Yep, heard that. Hinch took him out because he was hurting. Makes sense now.
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« Reply #576 on: August 20, 2019, 10:58:29 pm »
Degenerative disc disease, which ultimately led to 2 surgeries by a top neurosurgeon, ended my playing days.  Frankly, I am amazed any time I hear of a player in the majors recovering and returning to play the game at the level required to stay in the game.  I am not at all optimistic about Correa's career.
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« Reply #577 on: August 20, 2019, 11:06:44 pm »
Yep, heard that. Hinch took him out because he was hurting. Makes sense now.

WTF.  He says he’s been dealing with it for 6-7 starts.  So, pre-trade.
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« Reply #578 on: August 20, 2019, 11:15:43 pm »
All I know is that I was wrong about Correa. I thought that we had the next A-Rod. Wellsir, he's not even in the same stratosphere with A Rod. Good player? Yes. All Star. If healthy, maybe. There are better shortstops in the game, e.g., Lindor. And then this injury crap. Untouchable? Definitely not. Sell high. But sell.
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« Reply #579 on: August 20, 2019, 11:20:55 pm »
When healthy, A-Rod is still a good comp. When you look at the player A-Rod was through 24 and the player Correa is when healthy, he's not that far behind. Health is obviously huge, I hope we're not looking at a Troy Tulowitzki on our hands but it's looking more and more like it

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« Reply #580 on: August 20, 2019, 11:29:07 pm »
Tulowitzki would be great. Tulowitzki was the best player in baseball for a few years.
Correa was, for a second, the best player. It's easy to forget with everything that eventually happened but Carlos Correa, not Jose Altuve, would have been the MVP in 2017 if he had not gotten hurt. He was absolutely demolishing baseballs before(was it the wrist? Thumb? Think it was thumb) the injury. And he still has that ability, if we ever see it for a full 162

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« Reply #581 on: August 21, 2019, 06:13:38 am »
Correa and Sanchez both to the IL.  Sanchez with a pec issue hence the reduced velocity tonight.

Probably why he couldn't find the zone too.

Hope it's a short stint for both.

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« Reply #582 on: August 21, 2019, 08:06:22 am »
Crazy thought - What about flipping positions for Correa and Bregman.  Third would be a bit less physically demanding for Correa and Bregman can handle SS. Might keep Correa on the field more. 
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Crazy thought - What about flipping positions for Correa and Bregman.  Third would be a bit less physically demanding for Correa and Bregman can handle SS. Might keep Correa on the field more.

I do not think the position he plays has anything to do with his injuries. I have experience with herniated discs, if that is what he has. When they get ready to go, they go, and it does not matter what one is doing. That is what Austin’s dean of neurosurgeons told me after my first one anyway.
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« Reply #584 on: August 21, 2019, 09:18:07 am »
So who gets the call with two new members of the IL?  Bring up one of the AAAA starters (Framber, Urquidy, etc), or punch Sneed's ticket again for Sanchez, and Straw or maybe Tucker for Correa?
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« Reply #585 on: August 21, 2019, 10:00:16 am »
So who gets the call with two new members of the IL?  Bring up one of the AAAA starters (Framber, Urquidy, etc), or punch Sneed's ticket again for Sanchez, and Straw or maybe Tucker for Correa?

Good question. Framber has been pitching well in RR, but they may be leery of him. Urquidy if so.

With Reddick struggling, Tucker for Correa? Reddick or Marisnick can be inserted for defense late in winnable games.

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« Reply #586 on: August 21, 2019, 10:16:07 am »
So who gets the call with two new members of the IL?  Bring up one of the AAAA starters (Framber, Urquidy, etc), or punch Sneed's ticket again for Sanchez, and Straw or maybe Tucker for Correa?

Urquidy started for RR last night so the starters timing fits him.  Framber went the day before so he'd be well rested too.  I'm expecting Straw for Correa.
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« Reply #587 on: August 21, 2019, 10:17:01 am »
All I know is that I was wrong about Correa. I thought that we had the next A-Rod. Wellsir, he's not even in the same stratosphere with A Rod. Good player? Yes. All Star. If healthy, maybe. There are better shortstops in the game, e.g., Lindor. And then this injury crap. Untouchable? Definitely not. Sell high. But sell.

Not sure the "sell high" days aren't behind us. Personally, I would not attempt to deal him. Let him play, when healthy, and then let him walk when his contract is up. You can still catch lightening- in- a- bottle possibly for a post-season.

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« Reply #588 on: August 21, 2019, 10:21:11 am »
All I know is that I was wrong about Correa. I thought that we had the next A-Rod. Wellsir, he's not even in the same stratosphere with A Rod. Good player? Yes. All Star. If healthy, maybe. There are better shortstops in the game, e.g., Lindor. And then this injury crap. Untouchable? Definitely not. Sell high. But sell.

Injuries are disappointing, for sure, but I would not try to trade him, especially not now. He is ARod talent when healthy. I’d be patient with him.
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« Reply #589 on: August 21, 2019, 11:00:23 am »
Sneed and Straw it is.  I'd bet Sneed gets sent down (again) for a starter when it's Sanchez's turn in the rotation.
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« Reply #592 on: August 21, 2019, 11:27:38 am »
Wonder if we'll see Mayfield/Straw middle infield to get Altuve a day off.

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« Reply #593 on: August 21, 2019, 11:43:02 am »
Injuries are disappointing, for sure, but I would not try to trade him, especially not now. He is ARod talent when healthy. I’d be patient with him.
While I agree with you, it wouldn’t stop me from seeing what I could get for him in the off-season. If some team was willing to give me 2 top prospects, by top I mean a Whitley and Alvarez/Tucker type of duo, I’d have to consider making that deal.


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Isn’t he a replacement for Diaz?

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While I agree with you, it wouldn’t stop me from seeing what I could get for him in the off-season. If some team was willing to give me 2 top prospects, by top I mean a Whitley and Alvarez/Tucker type of duo, I’d have to consider making that deal.


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I'd be looking for top tier MLB talent in return.

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Prospects?

I'd be looking for top tier MLB talent in return.

Actually, I wouldn't be looking.  I'd listen to offers but not shop him.
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« Reply #597 on: August 21, 2019, 12:43:30 pm »
Injuries are disappointing, for sure, but I would not try to trade him, especially not now. He is ARod talent when healthy. I’d be patient with him.

Furthermore, the Astros don't need Correa to be an A-Rod unless they pay him that way.

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« Reply #598 on: August 21, 2019, 02:31:15 pm »
I’m a little disappointed.  I was hoping that the Astros would bring Tucker up, stick him at first, put Yuli at third, and put Bregs at ss.  (And maybe play a little Tucker in RF as well.)  Straw isn’t a shortstop.  And the combination of Straw and Altuve is terrible for double plays. 

All of this really leads me to question what the Astros think about Tucker.  He’s an untouchable prospect. But they won’t bring him up when he is needed.
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« Reply #599 on: August 21, 2019, 02:32:41 pm »
Correa was, for a second, the best player. It's easy to forget with everything that eventually happened but Carlos Correa, not Jose Altuve, would have been the MVP in 2017 if he had not gotten hurt. He was absolutely demolishing baseballs before(was it the wrist? Thumb? Think it was thumb) the injury. And he still has that ability, if we ever see it for a full 162

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I haven't forgotten anything about Correa's '17. I'm just saying the comparison was off. Over an 8 year span Tulo was good for 5+ WAR six times--and four of those were 6+. Correa's peak thus far was his 4.5 in 2017.

ETA: Make that 6.1, as Doyce pointed out. I mistook his WAA for his WAR.
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« Reply #600 on: August 21, 2019, 02:41:13 pm »
I haven't forgotten anything about Correa's '17. I'm just saying the comparison was off. Over an 8 year span Tulo was good for 5+ WAR six times--and four of those were 6+. Correa's peak thus far was his 4.5 in 2017.
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« Reply #601 on: August 21, 2019, 02:42:33 pm »
I’m a little disappointed.  I was hoping that the Astros would bring Tucker up, stick him at first, put Yuli at third, and put Bregs at ss.  (And maybe play a little Tucker in RF as well.)  Straw isn’t a shortstop.  And the combination of Straw and Altuve is terrible for double plays. 

All of this really leads me to question what the Astros think about Tucker.  He’s an untouchable prospect. But they won’t bring him up when he is needed.

I wonder if Straw will actually take on the Diaz role rather than Mayfield.
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« Reply #602 on: August 21, 2019, 03:45:43 pm »
I’m a little disappointed.  I was hoping that the Astros would bring Tucker up, stick him at first, put Yuli at third, and put Bregs at ss.  (And maybe play a little Tucker in RF as well.)  Straw isn’t a shortstop.  And the combination of Straw and Altuve is terrible for double plays. 

All of this really leads me to question what the Astros think about Tucker.  He’s an untouchable prospect. But they won’t bring him up when he is needed.

With the lineup they're currently fielding, Bregman Mayfield Altuve Yuli is the strongest defensive lineup out of them all. Moving Bregs to SS weakens the Astros considerably at 3rd, and who knows at first.
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« Reply #603 on: August 21, 2019, 03:54:07 pm »
I’m a little disappointed.  I was hoping that the Astros would bring Tucker up, stick him at first, put Yuli at third, and put Bregs at ss.  (And maybe play a little Tucker in RF as well.)  Straw isn’t a shortstop.  And the combination of Straw and Altuve is terrible for double plays. 

All of this really leads me to question what the Astros think about Tucker.  He’s an untouchable prospect. But they won’t bring him up when he is needed.

Not I. There are good reasons to leave Tucker where he is. Mayfield and Straw are fine.
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« Reply #604 on: August 21, 2019, 04:06:21 pm »
With Diaz and Correa out the immediate need is infield bodies.  And the further Yuli gets from 1B the worse the infield defense is.

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« Reply #605 on: August 21, 2019, 05:07:39 pm »
When we see Tucker again I hope we see a different Tucker than we saw last year. To my eye he seemed passive and tentative at the plate; a sharp contrast with Alvarez' confidant menace. When Tucker stepped into the batter's box he looked like Jeriome Robertson on the mound; as if he would rather be anywhere else.
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« Reply #606 on: August 22, 2019, 09:45:23 am »
The Astros are calling up Toro to help with the infield. He's not on the 40 man, so corresponding moves should be interesting.
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« Reply #607 on: August 22, 2019, 09:50:02 am »
The Astros are calling up Toro to help with the infield. He's not on the 40 man, so corresponding moves should be interesting.

Wow. Did not see this coming.

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« Reply #608 on: August 22, 2019, 09:51:53 am »
Can’t they just remove Mayfield from the 25, and if not him from the 40, there are some arms that are options.

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« Reply #609 on: August 22, 2019, 09:52:12 am »
How about finally jettisoning Brady Rogers? Why in the world is he on the 40 man roster?
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« Reply #610 on: August 22, 2019, 09:54:23 am »
How about finally jettisoning Brady Rogers? Why in the world is he on the 40 man roster?

Is there anyone who could conceivably go to the 60-man DL?  Not necessarily someone on the 25-man, even.
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« Reply #611 on: August 22, 2019, 09:54:38 am »
I count 41 people on the Astros current 40-man (which does not include McCullers). Is someone else on the 60 day IL that's not reflected on the linked roster? Of course, counting has never been my strong suit.
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« Reply #612 on: August 22, 2019, 09:56:40 am »
I count 41 people on the Astros current 40-man (which does not include McCullers). Is someone else on the 60 day IL that's not reflected on the linked roster? Of course, counting has never been my strong suit.

I think Guduan's suspension temporarily removes him from the 40-man.
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« Reply #613 on: August 22, 2019, 09:59:54 am »
I think Guduan's suspension temporarily removes him from the 40-man.

Maybe but everything I see indicates he stays on the 40-man for the rest of the season. He might be the next man out.
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« Reply #614 on: August 22, 2019, 10:02:46 am »
Wow. Did not see this coming.

Who did? He has not been in RR that long, but he is hitting .424. He plays 3B, not SS. Does this mean Bregman is going to SS? Is Correa not coming back any time soon? Is Mayfield out? He plays a solid SS but has not hit.

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« Reply #615 on: August 22, 2019, 10:11:08 am »
Who did? He has not been in RR that long, but he is hitting .424. He plays 3B, not SS. Does this mean Bregman is going to SS? Is Correa not coming back any time soon? Is Mayfield out? He plays a solid SS but has not hit.

Strange decision.

I can only imagine this is about offensive expectations.
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« Reply #616 on: August 22, 2019, 10:14:57 am »
I can only imagine this is about offensive expectations.

Sure, but at what defensive position?
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« Reply #617 on: August 22, 2019, 10:16:50 am »
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« Reply #618 on: August 22, 2019, 10:20:21 am »
In self defense I'm preparing for more injury news we haven't heard about yet.

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« Reply #619 on: August 22, 2019, 10:27:03 am »
According to Chandler Rome, Toro will be hitting 7th tonight.
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« Reply #620 on: August 22, 2019, 10:30:08 am »
Sure, but at what defensive position?

Gotta be at 3b with Bregman at short.
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« Reply #621 on: August 22, 2019, 10:30:56 am »
In self defense I'm preparing for more injury news we haven't heard about yet.

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« Reply #622 on: August 22, 2019, 10:31:12 am »
If I say "Correa to the 60 day" enough I know it won't be true.

I too am concerned for Correa's health now and in the future.
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« Reply #623 on: August 22, 2019, 10:31:41 am »
The Astros are calling up Toro to help with the infield. He's not on the 40 man, so corresponding moves should be interesting.

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« Reply #624 on: August 22, 2019, 10:34:12 am »
Kaplan: "It’s worth noting that Toro would’ve been Rule 5 eligible this winter, so the Astros would’ve added him to their 40-man roster in November, if not during this season."
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« Reply #625 on: August 22, 2019, 10:43:27 am »
Kaplan: "It’s worth noting that Toro would’ve been Rule 5 eligible this winter, so the Astros would’ve added him to their 40-man roster in November, if not during this season."

The noteworthy part is that they're doing it now.  Doing it in November is SOP as free agents open space and trades can be made.  After he acquitted himself well in the AFL last fall he was on the trajectory to be added this winter anyway.
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« Reply #626 on: August 22, 2019, 10:49:21 am »
Please, not Bregman.

My mind went to the hbp in the shoulder blade.

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« Reply #627 on: August 22, 2019, 10:53:31 am »
It's worth noting, I think, that Toro is a switch hitter.
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« Reply #628 on: August 22, 2019, 10:55:06 am »
It could be Toro for Mayfield.
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« Reply #629 on: August 22, 2019, 10:59:50 am »
Somebody check on Snuffy.

He's cradling Tucker in his arms.

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« Reply #630 on: August 22, 2019, 11:02:18 am »
Somebody check on Snuffy.

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« Reply #631 on: August 22, 2019, 12:14:37 pm »
Pressly out 4-6 weeks for knee surgery...Ooof.

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« Reply #632 on: August 22, 2019, 12:25:26 pm »
Damn. That really sucks.  I thought, given how well he threw in the last ones, that his knee was healed.

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« Reply #633 on: August 22, 2019, 12:26:40 pm »
I can only imagine this is about offensive expectations.

Luhnow said directly that last night spurred them to make a move for more offense.


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« Reply #634 on: August 22, 2019, 12:26:41 pm »
It's worth noting, I think, that Toro is a switch hitter.

He is.  Also, he's made 7 starts at 1B b/t CC and RR this year.

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« Reply #635 on: August 22, 2019, 12:30:36 pm »
Luhnow said directly that last night spurred them to make a move for more offense.


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« Reply #636 on: August 22, 2019, 12:31:43 pm »
Still no word on the corresponding 40 man?
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« Reply #637 on: August 22, 2019, 01:11:31 pm »
McTaggart: Luhnow said SS Carlos Correa, who was placed on IL Tuesday with lower back stiffness, is still receiving treatment.  He hopes he’s playing in a rehab games in the first week of September and activated back with the big-league team for the last three weeks of the season.
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« Reply #638 on: August 22, 2019, 01:15:12 pm »
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« Reply #639 on: August 22, 2019, 01:49:34 pm »
Still no word on the corresponding 40 man?

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« Reply #640 on: August 22, 2019, 02:17:14 pm »
Toro seems to be a short term stop gap until Diaz gets back. I think that they said he was close on last night's broadcast.
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« Reply #641 on: August 22, 2019, 03:24:09 pm »
Toro seems to be a short term stop gap until Diaz gets back. I think that they said he was close on last night's broadcast.

Unless he hits and creates a nice problem.
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« Reply #642 on: August 22, 2019, 03:27:24 pm »
Damn. That really sucks.  I thought, given how well he threw in the last ones, that his knee was healed.

Harris gets the 8th, and it is all hands on deck for the 7th. Framber could help this team so much if he would just throw strikes.
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« Reply #643 on: August 22, 2019, 03:30:09 pm »
Unless he hits and creates a nice problem.

If that happens then Straw goes down.  That's only if Diaz returns before September.
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« Reply #644 on: August 22, 2019, 03:31:06 pm »
Harris gets the 8th, and it is all hands on deck for the 7th. Framber could help this team so much if he would just throw strikes.

His first couple of starts after he came back a month or whenever ago had me so excited that he may have figured something out, but it didn't last.

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« Reply #645 on: August 22, 2019, 03:34:04 pm »
Harris gets the 8th, and it is all hands on deck for the 7th. Framber could help this team so much if he would just throw strikes.

McHugh has had better results lately, but I doubt think there's been much high leverage lately.

Biagini is still in RR?

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« Reply #646 on: August 22, 2019, 03:35:33 pm »
His first couple of starts after he came back a month or whenever ago had me so excited that he may have figured something out, but it didn't last.

He's got all the potential in the world.

His K/BB ratio still was pretty good. I am not too concerned with runs or ERA. Throwing strikes, and letting his defense help is his key.
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« Reply #647 on: August 22, 2019, 03:44:47 pm »
McHugh has had better results lately, but I doubt think there's been much high leverage lately.

Biagini is still in RR?

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« Reply #648 on: August 22, 2019, 03:50:35 pm »
Biagini and Toro up for Pressly IL and Mayfield AAA

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« Reply #649 on: August 22, 2019, 04:03:29 pm »
Biagini and Toro up for Pressly IL and Mayfield AAA

Biagini was not too good in RR
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« Reply #650 on: August 22, 2019, 05:20:53 pm »
Biagini was not too good in RR
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« Reply #651 on: August 22, 2019, 05:35:00 pm »
Pitched 2 games, less than 2 innings.  Horrible in the first, good in the second.

As I said, not so good. Lit up in the first game.
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« Reply #652 on: August 22, 2019, 05:47:12 pm »
McTaggart:
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« Reply #653 on: August 22, 2019, 06:19:16 pm »
McTaggart:
https://t.co/D35Bb0vcU8

This perplexes me. I am no doctor, but I have had herniated discs (L3-L5). Incredibly painful. Sciatic nerve pain. I could not function normally with the pain. They show up on CAT scans or an MRI, and I have had two surgeries, which were easy, immediate fixes. The rehab in 2015 was nothing, and I was almost 70.

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« Reply #654 on: August 22, 2019, 06:43:37 pm »
Biagini was not too good in RR

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« Reply #655 on: August 22, 2019, 06:44:30 pm »
Where is Joe Smith?

Pitching well in Houston. You have not been watching?
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Also had more stuff from Correa.  Said back feels better then last year, encouraged etc.

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« Reply #658 on: August 22, 2019, 07:03:34 pm »
Biagini and Toro up for Pressly IL and Mayfield AAA

I wonder if the Texans have player named "Orbit"...
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« Reply #659 on: August 22, 2019, 07:26:58 pm »
WTF is wrong with Carlos and his back? Was this nothing more than stiffness and soreness after a long flight and a panicked rush to the IL?
I have no idea about Carlos. And of course I'm no Doctor but it is possibly not a spinal issue. A strain or sprain of a tendon, ligament, or muscle (but not a tear) seems more likely. Those can cause constant pain and severe muscle spasms and require inactivity and several days time or longer to heal.  Then one might do Physical Therapy for a short duration to strengthen any atrophied muscle before one is back to normal.
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« Reply #660 on: August 22, 2019, 07:41:01 pm »
This perplexes me. I am no doctor, but I have had herniated discs (L3-L5). Incredibly painful. Sciatic nerve pain. I could not function normally with the pain. They show up on CAT scans or an MRI, and I have had two surgeries, which were easy, immediate fixes. The rehab in 2015 was nothing, and I was almost 70.

WTF is wrong with Carlos and his back? Was this nothing more than stiffness and soreness after a long flight and a panicked rush to the IL?

I read somewhere his MRI came back negative.  So yes just stiffness.

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« Reply #661 on: August 22, 2019, 07:46:13 pm »
I wonder if the Texans have player named "Orbit"...

Can he hit with runners on base?
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« Reply #662 on: August 22, 2019, 07:46:30 pm »
I read somewhere his MRI came back negative.  So yes just stiffness.

Maybe he's a master baiter too.

He needs to learn to switch hands.  Mix it up a little.
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« Reply #663 on: August 22, 2019, 09:34:50 pm »
He's in Houston.

I have, and am watching him now. I just feel like he's the always forgotten guy. Mine was sort of a where's Waldo question,  though why anyone would get that without context spelled out I have no idea.

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« Reply #664 on: August 22, 2019, 09:37:25 pm »
Can he hit with runners on base?

He oughta! Name's built around RBI!

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« Reply #665 on: August 22, 2019, 09:39:04 pm »
He oughta! Name's built around RBI!

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« Reply #666 on: August 22, 2019, 09:44:15 pm »
I have, and am watching him now. I just feel like he's the always forgotten guy. Mine was sort of a where's Waldo question,  though why anyone would get that without context spelled out I have no idea.

He missed half a year with an injury so I thought hour question was serious.
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« Reply #667 on: August 23, 2019, 07:39:15 am »
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« Reply #668 on: August 27, 2019, 04:50:45 pm »
Diaz activated from IL. Straw back to AAA.
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« Reply #669 on: August 27, 2019, 04:53:33 pm »
Diaz activated from IL. Straw back to AAA.

Wonder if he’ll get to RR in time to play tonight? Game 2 of 4 game series with SA. RR has a two game lead.
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« Reply #670 on: August 27, 2019, 05:38:42 pm »
Wonder if he’ll get to RR in time to play tonight? Game 2 of 4 game series with SA. RR has a two game lead.

Just let him run, he’ll beat the plane there.


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« Reply #671 on: August 27, 2019, 05:57:26 pm »
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« Reply #672 on: August 28, 2019, 04:07:20 pm »
Peacock bank to the IL.  Shoulder discomfort.

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« Reply #673 on: August 28, 2019, 04:10:01 pm »
Sneed was called up.

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« Reply #674 on: August 28, 2019, 04:17:49 pm »
Sneed was called up.

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« Reply #675 on: August 28, 2019, 04:18:57 pm »
Peacock bank to the IL.  Shoulder discomfort.

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« Reply #676 on: August 28, 2019, 04:23:50 pm »
Fuck. He is done.

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McHugh?  Maybe some from Devo.  Sneed can go multiple innings.
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« Reply #677 on: August 28, 2019, 04:25:56 pm »
Fuck. He is done.

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« Reply #678 on: August 28, 2019, 04:26:36 pm »
A guy talking about “sharp pain” in his shoulder isn’t someone you’re going to see in the next two months.


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« Reply #679 on: August 28, 2019, 04:27:01 pm »
McHugh?  Maybe some from Devo.  Sneed can go multiple innings.

None are shutdown relievers for high leverage situations. I know we have bodies.
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« Reply #680 on: August 28, 2019, 04:34:28 pm »
If Sanchez is healthy, maybe him
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« Reply #681 on: August 28, 2019, 04:39:10 pm »
If Sanchez is healthy, maybe him

Whenever he comes back from his own injury.
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« Reply #682 on: August 28, 2019, 04:41:03 pm »
Whenever he comes back from his own injury.

Not his arm, though. Peacock may need surgery.
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« Reply #683 on: August 28, 2019, 04:53:31 pm »
None are shutdown relievers for high leverage situations. I know we have bodies.

I would assume that until Pressly gets back, it's Smith in the 7th, Harris in the 8th, and Osuna in the 9th. 
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« Reply #684 on: August 28, 2019, 05:01:40 pm »
I would assume that until Pressly gets back, it's Smith in the 7th, Harris in the 8th, and Osuna in the 9th.

Yep. Harris and Osuna for sure. The rest may be Hinch’s idea of matchups.
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« Reply #685 on: August 28, 2019, 05:06:06 pm »
A guy talking about “sharp pain” in his shoulder isn’t someone you’re going to see in the next two months.


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« Reply #686 on: August 28, 2019, 05:20:55 pm »
None are shutdown relievers for high leverage situations. I know we have bodies.

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« Reply #687 on: August 30, 2019, 10:15:50 pm »
Chandler Rome tweet:  A.J. Hinch said he took Collin McHugh out because "it didn't look like he had much life on his pitches." Asked if McHugh was OK, Hinch said "I'm going to talk to him." McHugh was unavailable for comment after the game. Hinch said there would be an update tomorrow.
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« Reply #688 on: August 31, 2019, 10:16:08 am »
Chandler Rome tweet:  A.J. Hinch said he took Collin McHugh out because "it didn't look like he had much life on his pitches." Asked if McHugh was OK, Hinch said "I'm going to talk to him." McHugh was unavailable for comment after the game. Hinch said there would be an update tomorrow.

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« Reply #691 on: August 31, 2019, 11:24:52 am »
McHugh to IL, Urquidy up.

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Not good if they’re willing to IL him for 1 game of availability for Urquidy.

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« Reply #693 on: August 31, 2019, 11:36:21 am »
McHugh to IL, Urquidy up.

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« Reply #694 on: August 31, 2019, 11:41:07 am »
Getting the bullpen rested and healthy should take priority over going for best record. Ideally they would call up a bunch of AAA arms to eat innings for several weeks and not be too picky about the details... but then there's that damned division race, which won't quite go away. 9 games up with less than a month to play is very nice... except for the small matter of those 4 remaining head to head games with the A's. Hopefully a good outcome in those games will leave the team two weeks for bullpen R&R.

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« Reply #695 on: August 31, 2019, 12:10:03 pm »
One game? What do you mean?

Rosters expand tomorrow. Urquidy could have been called up then without an IL trip for McHugh.


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« Reply #696 on: August 31, 2019, 12:11:32 pm »
Rosters expand tomorrow. Urquidy could have been called up then without an IL trip for McHugh.
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« Reply #697 on: August 31, 2019, 12:21:47 pm »
Getting the bullpen rested and healthy should take priority over going for best record. Ideally they would call up a bunch of AAA arms to eat innings for several weeks and not be too picky about the details... but then there's that damned division race, which won't quite go away. 9 games up with less than a month to play is very nice... except for the small matter of those 4 remaining head to head games with the A's. Hopefully a good outcome in those games will leave the team two weeks for bullpen R&R.

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I think having to play hard until the end is a good thing. Teams that can coast in have a hard time turning on again.
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« Reply #698 on: August 31, 2019, 12:23:05 pm »
I'll be pleasantly surprised if McHugh pitches for us again.
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« Reply #699 on: August 31, 2019, 12:25:17 pm »
Has there been a report on what is wrong with McHugh?
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Has there been a report on what is wrong with McHugh?

Recurrence of right elbow soreness


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« Reply #701 on: August 31, 2019, 12:40:26 pm »
Recurrence of right elbow soreness


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« Reply #702 on: September 01, 2019, 12:31:00 pm »
Yuli a late scratch from the game today, discomforted by a left elbow contusion from the HBP yesterday
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« Reply #703 on: September 01, 2019, 03:18:43 pm »
Correa has yet to swing a bat.
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« Reply #704 on: September 01, 2019, 03:38:45 pm »
Correa has yet to swing a bat.

He, along w/ three others on IL, did not make the road trip....
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« Reply #705 on: September 01, 2019, 04:37:52 pm »
Correa has yet to swing a bat.
Sanchez has yet to throw a ball
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« Reply #706 on: September 01, 2019, 06:04:06 pm »
Sanchez has yet to throw a ball

WTF do the last few posts mean? Sandy Koufax also did not pitch.
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« Reply #707 on: September 01, 2019, 06:21:51 pm »
WTF do the last few posts mean? Sandy Koufax also did not pitch.

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« Reply #708 on: September 01, 2019, 06:23:52 pm »
I think having to play hard until the end is a good thing. Teams that can coast in have a hard time turning on again.

Agreed.  Rather have to stay sharp.  It wasn't that long ago they send unbeatable and the BBGs showed everyone.
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« Reply #709 on: September 01, 2019, 07:28:56 pm »
WTF do the last few posts mean? Sandy Koufax also did not pitch.

Pressly's return looks good, he's playing catch and should hopefully be back by the end of the month.

Sanchez has not begun to throw a baseball yet.

Correa has not begun to swing a bat yet.

James was activated today.

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« Reply #710 on: September 02, 2019, 06:57:08 am »
Pressly's return looks good, he's playing catch and should hopefully be back by the end of the month.

Sanchez has not begun to throw a baseball yet.

Correa has not begun to swing a bat yet.

James was activated today.

This is a thread about injured players and their recovery.
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« Reply #711 on: September 03, 2019, 12:45:52 pm »
Hinch said today on MLB radio that Sanchez is still shut down, is getting more evaluations, and he is concerned that Sanchez will not be ready for the post-season.  He said that they will know more when they get back to Houston.
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« Reply #712 on: September 03, 2019, 12:59:48 pm »
Hinch said today on MLB radio that Sanchez is still shut down, is getting more evaluations, and he is concerned that Sanchez will not be ready for the post-season.  He said that they will know more when they get back to Houston.

That is more candor than we usually get with injury updates.

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« Reply #713 on: September 03, 2019, 01:12:58 pm »
Hinch said today on MLB radio that Sanchez is still shut down, is getting more evaluations, and he is concerned that Sanchez will not be ready for the post-season.  He said that they will know more when they get back to Houston.

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« Reply #714 on: September 03, 2019, 01:27:14 pm »
Hinch said today on MLB radio that Sanchez is still shut down, is getting more evaluations, and he is concerned that Sanchez will not be ready for the post-season.  He said that they will know more when they get back to Houston.

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« Reply #715 on: September 03, 2019, 01:35:36 pm »
Translation: His arm fell off yesterday.

Pitcherspeak about same injury: “It is not sore, just a little stiff.”
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« Reply #716 on: September 03, 2019, 03:14:28 pm »
For those keeping track, Correa is swinging the bat and taking ground balls in the field according to Luhnow. No ETA

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« Reply #717 on: September 03, 2019, 03:20:11 pm »
For those keeping track, Correa is swinging the bat and taking ground balls in the field according to Luhnow. No ETA

I hope he is hitting them over the tracks. I also hope he gets this fixed in the offseason. Yoga did not work.
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« Reply #718 on: September 03, 2019, 03:51:30 pm »
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« Reply #719 on: September 03, 2019, 04:00:39 pm »
How does one get this fixed? 
Lumbar discectomy, I assume.  Several MLB position players have had the proceedure with varying results upon return, but I can't think of one as young as Correa, Neil Walker was 30, that's as close as I get.
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« Reply #720 on: September 03, 2019, 04:02:54 pm »
Lumbar discectomy, I assume.  Several MLB position players have had the proceedure with varying results upon return, but I can't think of one as young as Correa, Neil Walker was 30, that's as close as I get.

Correa has a ruptured disk?
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« Reply #721 on: September 03, 2019, 04:08:40 pm »
Correa has a ruptured disk?

I've been assuming he has a disc issue, yes.  Come to think of it, have they ever announced what was specifically wrong with him? 

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« Reply #722 on: September 03, 2019, 04:10:52 pm »
I've been assuming it's a disc issue, yes.  Come to think of it, have they ever announced what was specifically wrong with him?

Of course they have: discomfort.

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« Reply #723 on: September 03, 2019, 04:13:07 pm »
How does one get this fixed?

Back surgery if he has herniated discs. I had two, and I was almost 70 for the second one. Immediate fix, short and easy rehab.
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« Reply #724 on: September 03, 2019, 04:18:55 pm »
I've been assuming he has a disc issue, yes.  Come to think of it, have they ever announced what was specifically wrong with him? 

eta:  I am aware that this is not why he's currently on the DL, and am not advocating that he have back surgery this offseason.

With a neurosurgeon, simple disc surgery is easy.
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I have arthritis in my lower back.  Constant and nagging pain.  And Aleve only goes so far.  I have no idea what is wrong with Correa's back, but I know I couldn't swing a bat with my condition.  I hope that what he has is fixable. 
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« Reply #726 on: September 03, 2019, 04:24:15 pm »
I have arthritis in my lower back.  Constant and nagging pain.  And Aleve only goes so far.  I have no idea what is wrong with Correa's back, but I know I couldn't swing a bat with my condition.  I hope that what he has is fixable.

Yeah, me too. You have my sympathy for your situation. Back pack can be unbearable; I could not function. Luckily mine was simple, fixable, and easy. No pain drugs or Aleve required.

I have not read any statement about the cause of Correa’s pain.
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« Reply #727 on: September 03, 2019, 04:45:27 pm »
A good massage will fix him right up.
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« Reply #728 on: September 03, 2019, 04:47:07 pm »
With a neurosurgeon, simple disc surgery is easy.

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« Reply #729 on: September 03, 2019, 09:39:10 pm »
per Berman, Springer will be evaluated tomorrow and is considered day to day.
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« Reply #730 on: September 03, 2019, 09:58:29 pm »
per Berman, Springer will be evaluated tomorrow and is considered day to day.

Concussion protocol, no doubt. Glad he did not snap his neck.
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« Reply #731 on: September 03, 2019, 10:11:39 pm »
Concussion protocol, no doubt. Glad he did not snap his neck.

Yep, I was really worried about neck damage, a cracked bone or something like that.

Chandler Rome tweet:  Josh Reddick: "When me and Mike got there, (Springer) seemed to be very alert. He just kept saying he had a headache. That was a positive sign. He wasn’t dizzy. He didn’t have any memory loss out there. He made sure he answered all the questions right."
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« Reply #732 on: September 04, 2019, 09:24:11 am »
Yep, I was really worried about neck damage, a cracked bone or something like that.

Chandler Rome tweet:  Josh Reddick: "When me and Mike got there, (Springer) seemed to be very alert. He just kept saying he had a headache. That was a positive sign. He wasn’t dizzy. He didn’t have any memory loss out there. He made sure he answered all the questions right."

The Brewers announcers discussed the confusion caused by the length of the warning track last night, as Springer was being attended to.

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(1:33:00) The "extra wide" warning track got him there.  He thot he was closer to the wall than he actually was.....


For some reason, the warning track is five feet deep rather than the usual three feet.  That's why he jumped too soon. 

Why is the warning track so deep?
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« Reply #733 on: September 04, 2019, 09:30:13 am »
The Brewers announcers discussed the confusion caused by the length of the warning track last night, as Springer was being attended to.
 

For some reason, the warning track is five feet deep rather than the usual three feet.  That's why he jumped too soon. 

Why is the warning track so deep?

To give the OFers more time before they hit the wall.
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« Reply #734 on: September 04, 2019, 10:08:30 am »

For some reason, the warning track is five feet deep rather than the usual three feet.  That's why he jumped too soon. 

Why is the warning track so deep?
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« Reply #735 on: September 04, 2019, 10:16:18 am »
The Brewers announcers discussed the confusion caused by the length of the warning track last night, as Springer was being attended to.
 

For some reason, the warning track is five feet deep rather than the usual three feet.  That's why he jumped too soon. 

Why is the warning track so deep?

Warning tracks are a lot wider than three feet.  The typical track is about 15 feet.  The conventional wisdom is giving the outfielder three strides before hitting the wall.  Normally, outfielders will familiarize themselves with the track and the wall at every ballpark, usually part of pre-game warmups or bp.  I don't know if Springer did that or not, but it's not a park he's used to playing at, so if it's unusually wide, that could be the source of his thinking he was closer than he was. 
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« Reply #736 on: September 04, 2019, 10:48:08 am »
Warning tracks are a lot wider than three feet.  The typical track is about 15 feet.  The conventional wisdom is giving the outfielder three strides before hitting the wall.  Normally, outfielders will familiarize themselves with the track and the wall at every ballpark, usually part of pre-game warmups or bp.  I don't know if Springer did that or not, but it's not a park he's used to playing at, so if it's unusually wide, that could be the source of his thinking he was closer than he was.

Snuffy, you appear to be relatively new to baseball. If you want to know the potential consequences of no padded walls and (almost certainly) of no warning tracks, do a little reading about Pete Reiser.
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« Reply #737 on: September 04, 2019, 10:55:44 am »
Warning tracks are a lot wider than three feet.  The typical track is about 15 feet.  The conventional wisdom is giving the outfielder three strides before hitting the wall.  Normally, outfielders will familiarize themselves with the track and the wall at every ballpark, usually part of pre-game warmups or bp.  I don't know if Springer did that or not, but it's not a park he's used to playing at, so if it's unusually wide, that could be the source of his thinking he was closer than he was.

Correction: Listened to it again: they called it a "five-stepper", rather than a "three-stepper" warning track.
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« Reply #738 on: September 04, 2019, 10:58:34 am »
Snuffy, you appear to be relatively new to baseball. If you want to know the potential consequences of no padded walls and (almost certainly) of no warning tracks, do a little reading about Pete Reiser.

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Upset to know that the unusual length of the warning track may have had a part in Springer's injury.
They mentioned he had not played much on this field.
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« Reply #739 on: September 04, 2019, 11:24:04 am »
I do have a lot to learn - that's why I am here.
Upset to know that the unusual length of the warning track may have had a part in Springer's injury.
They mentioned he had not played much on this field.

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« Reply #740 on: September 04, 2019, 11:42:05 am »
Springer’s fault for not knowing this. Not the field’s fault or the Brewers’.

Not knowing or forgetting.   Either way,  it's on the OFer.

Reddick said he was yelling to Springer that he had room but doubted George could hear him.

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« Reply #741 on: September 04, 2019, 11:42:09 am »
Springer’s fault for not knowing this. Not the field’s fault or the Brewers’.

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« Reply #742 on: September 04, 2019, 12:06:42 pm »
Not knowing or forgetting.   Either way,  it's on the OFer.

Reddick said he was yelling to Springer that he had room but doubted George could hear him.

Yep, standand call for other OFers, but damn that noise.

Funny (and true): I was pitching a semi-pro game for a Seguin team one weekend. We were on the road, but I do not remember where. The OF had an old-fashioned wood fence 8-10 feet tall, and a guy hit one about a mile off me to LCF. I knew it was gone immediately, and I imagine the fans did too. Not our CFer, though; he took off on a dead run looking up following the ball’s trajectory and intending to catch the ball. Our LFer, who was my teammate at Texas, seemed to be unaware also. He was calling “lotta room, lotta room” until the instant the CF ran into the fence face-first straight on. Thank goodness, he was stunned (and surprised!) but not hurt. Then it was hilarious! Looked like a Roadrunner cartoon. He hit the fence straight on, stuck to it a moment, then slid down to the ground.
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« Reply #743 on: September 04, 2019, 12:25:56 pm »
Yep, standand call for other OFers, but damn that noise.

Funny (and true): I was pitching a semi-pro game for a Seguin team one weekend. We were on the road, but I do not remember where. The OF had an old-fashioned wood fence 8-10 feet tall, and a guy hit one about a mile off me to LCF. I knew it was gone immediately, and I imagine the fans did too. Not our CFer, though; he took off on a dead run looking up following the ball’s trajectory and intending to catch the ball. Our LFer, who was my teammate at Texas, seemed to be unaware also. He was calling “lotta room, lotta room” until the instant the CF ran into the fence straight on. Thank goodness, he was stunned (and surprised!) but not hurt. Then it was hilarious! Looked like a Roadrunner cartoon. He hit the fence straight on, stuck to it a moment, then slid down to the ground.

I remember a game where the batter hit a towering popup right behind 1B.  The first baseman was trying to get under it, and you could tell was having trouble with the sun.  Our second baseman kept yelling "back...back...back...back" and the first baseman kept moving back towards the outfield.  He was still back peddling when the ball landed about five feet in front of him, at which point our second baseman yelled "too much".
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« Reply #744 on: September 04, 2019, 12:52:57 pm »
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« Reply #745 on: September 04, 2019, 12:59:14 pm »
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Why? No fence to run into, gradual slope, embarrassment from falling down might injure pride. Twisted ankle? I suppose that is possible. I liked The Hill but really like what the Astros did with CF.

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I remember a game where the batter hit a towering popup right behind 1B.  The first baseman was trying to get under it, and you could tell was having trouble with the sun.  Our second baseman kept yelling "back...back...back...back" and the first baseman kept moving back towards the outfield.  He was still back peddling when the ball landed about five feet in front of him, at which point our second baseman yelled "too much".

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« Reply #747 on: September 04, 2019, 02:06:39 pm »
Springer’s fault for not knowing this. Not the field’s fault or the Brewers’.
Springer's fault?  Not like he's played a whole bunch of games in that park.  That's harsh.

eta:  that was his 5th game there.  No idea how many were RF vs CF
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« Reply #748 on: September 04, 2019, 02:12:02 pm »
Springer's fault?  Not like he's played a whole bunch of games in that park.  That's harsh.

eta:  that was his 5th game there.  No idea how many were RF vs CF

Not at all harsh. Lots of time before the game and all of BP to learn the wall. Easy to do with a guy and a fungo. All on him.
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« Reply #749 on: September 04, 2019, 02:23:03 pm »
Why? No fence to run into, gradual slope, embarrassment from falling down might injure pride. Twisted ankle? I suppose that is possible. I liked The Hill but really like what the Astros did with CF.

Fences are the issue for hurting OFers.
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« Reply #750 on: September 04, 2019, 02:24:54 pm »
I remember Berkman falling down trying to make a catch going up the hill. They should have put a flagpole or something on the Hill to make it more challenging.

There was a flagpole on it, and the pole was in play. Richie Sexton hit it with a monster blast and had to settle for a double.
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There was a flagpole on it, and the pole was in play. Richie Sexton hit it with a monster blast and had to settle for a double.
Yea, I remember White Sox fans coming on here whining about the foul pole during the World Series in 05.

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Is there a reason warning track width shouldn’t be standardized?

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Is there a reason warning track width shouldn’t be standardized?

Not that I can think of.

You saw Reddick get sketchy on the track on a RF catch against the wall in the first game, like he didn't know where things were.

Obviously they just didn't take enough fungos.  Glad Springer should be back soon.
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« Reply #754 on: September 04, 2019, 03:38:40 pm »
I remember Berkman falling down trying to make a catch going up the hill. They should have put a flagpole or something on the Hill to make it more challenging.
Berkman didn't just try to make the catch; he made the catch.  And considering Berkman's agility, it was a spectacular play.
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They should have tied a rottweiler to the pole.   Length of the chain varies.

If the dog gets the ball,  it's still in play.

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They should have tied a rottweiler to the pole.   Length of the chain varies.

If the dog gets the ball,  it's still in play.

They could have named it Tal.

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Is there a reason warning track width shouldn’t be standardized?

It used to be standard to 10 feet, but not anymore.  It's up to each team.  It's kind of like the fence height and distance...it's up to each team.
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« Reply #758 on: September 04, 2019, 04:51:13 pm »
Normally I hate off-days.  But with Springer's injury and the state of the bullpen, a day off seems like just what the Astros need. 
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They should have tied a rottweiler to the pole.   Length of the chain varies.

If the dog gets the ball,  it's still in play.

They could have named it Tal.

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Is there a reason warning track width shouldn’t be standardized?
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Thank you!

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No reason to standardize them.

Yup. Baseball is not “standardized”

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« Reply #763 on: September 05, 2019, 06:30:50 am »
Yup. Baseball is not “standardized”

That’s why we like it.

Fields have differing amounts of foul territory, different ground rules, umps have different strike zones, baseballs have different seams,  Coach has different levels of WFW to use.  It's what makes baseball great.
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Fields have differing amounts of foul territory, different ground rules, umps have different strike zones, baseballs have different seams,  Coach has different levels of WFW to use.  It's what makes baseball great.

Exactly right. Quite a panic reaction because Springer did not know where he was and could not hear his teammates’ assurances. Players have hit walls for generations, and the fields are never at fault. Your point about differing amounts of foul territory is especially good.
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Fields have differing amounts of foul territory, different ground rules, umps have different strike zones, baseballs have different seams,  Coach has different levels of WFW to use.  It's what makes baseball great.

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Aaron Sanchez to have season ending shoulder surgery.


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« Reply #767 on: September 05, 2019, 11:45:23 am »
Tags:  George Springer was diagnosed with a mild concussion yesterday, Luhnow says. He will miss a few games but they hope to have him back by early next week once he is cleared medically.
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« Reply #768 on: September 05, 2019, 11:47:17 am »
Aaron Sanchez to have season ending shoulder surgery.


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Aaron Sanchez to have season ending shoulder surgery.

For a pec injury?

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« Reply #770 on: September 05, 2019, 01:59:23 pm »
Correa, Pressly, Springer, James, Peacock, McHugh, Osuna, Greinke

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« Reply #771 on: September 05, 2019, 03:50:50 pm »
Why? No fence to run into, gradual slope, embarrassment from falling down might injure pride. Twisted ankle? I suppose that is possible. I liked The Hill but really like what the Astros did with CF.

Fences are the issue for hurting OFers.

Right. I still have nightmares about a denial league play from about 25-30 years ago. I was pitching, and a nemesis (this fuckwad hit me hard in every league we ever played in from little league past high school) hits a forkball that stayed up  a ton to RF, where they had a very short fence. The RF, who really was a middle infielder, went back on the ball and thought that he had a shot at it. He flipped over the fence and broke his neck. MIraculously, he wasn't paralyzed, but his denial league and sports undertakings were over for life. I felt so badly because the CF was screaming at him to stop, but he didn't. That was his first (and, ironically, last) game playing right field since early in high school. He was only out there because he volunteered when our right fielder didn't show. As for the hitter, I never threw him another strike in his life. As far as I know, he's about 60 and still toiling in the denial leagues.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #772 on: September 05, 2019, 04:02:34 pm »
Correa, Pressly, Springer, James, Peacock, McHugh, Osuna, Greinke

How will they perform if we get to October?

Tucker, your chance is now. This is the last one until 2020.

I'm not sure McHugh or Peacock will be able to pitch at all in September.  Anybody heard anything on them this week?

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #773 on: September 05, 2019, 04:15:13 pm »
I'm not sure McHugh or Peacock will be able to pitch at all in September.  Anybody heard anything on them this week?

I would like to hear Hinch talk about Greinke. One bad pitch cost him 3 runs and the loss, but he gave up several rockets which were caught, and his two out problem is bad.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #774 on: September 05, 2019, 05:10:39 pm »
Indirect Springer update:

https://twitter.com/karenwarrenHC/status/1169732175706513408?s=19

And a more direct one:

https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/1169728426317623297?s=19

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AJ Hinch says George Springer definitely not playing tonight or tomorrow. George is in concussion protocol, so he has to be medically cleared by doctors. AJ says there's a chance we could see Springer in this series, but he's taking it day-by-day.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #775 on: September 05, 2019, 05:34:35 pm »
AJ injury updates:

https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1169725045909803008?s=19

Springer: concussion protocol; he's feeling better
Sanchez: surgery,  out for the season
Pressly: throwing off the mound tmw
Peacock: will throw some tmw
McHugh: has not thrown yet; will be on similar schedule as Peacock
Correa: has hit,  done some cardio; AJ will hit grounders to him today

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #776 on: September 06, 2019, 08:56:27 am »
Watching George in the dugout was very reassuring.  He certainly didn't look like someone who had a concussion.  He looked like regular George, kidding around with everyone around him.  Obviously, this is not a medical diagnosis, but it made me feel better. 
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« Reply #777 on: September 06, 2019, 09:03:31 am »
Watching George in the dugout was very reassuring.  He certainly didn't look like someone who had a concussion.  He looked like regular George, kidding around with everyone around him.  Obviously, this is not a medical diagnosis, but it made me feel better. 

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« Reply #778 on: September 06, 2019, 09:52:51 am »
He was wearing Reddick's shirt and who knows for pants.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #779 on: September 09, 2019, 07:50:17 pm »
Chandler Rome tweets:

The Astros are targeting this weekend in Kansas City for Brad Peacock to throw off the mound for the first time.

Meanwhile, Collin McHugh is still not throwing. "That's a little bit of bad news," A.J. Hinch said. "We would have hoped he was a little further along."

A.J. Hinch said it is possible that Carlos Correa will "factor into" Triple-A Round Rock's playoff series that begins on Friday. Correa is "building endurance" and continuing his baseball activities.

Yuli Gurriel said he ran at 85 percent today. A.J. Hinch hit him some ground balls during pregame warmups. Hinch said Gurriel will repeat that pregame routine tomorrow and the team will “see how he fits” into this series against the A’s

Lance McCullers Jr. is throwing off a mound today for the first time since undergoing Tommy John surgery. He'll only get about halfway up the slope and will likely throw only fastballs.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #780 on: September 10, 2019, 09:20:43 am »
I'm starting to get cautiously optimistic about seeing LMJ pitch this year.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #781 on: September 10, 2019, 09:25:52 am »
I'm starting to get cautiously optimistic about seeing LMJ pitch this year.

I didn't think that was even a remote possibility. What makes you optimistic, even recklessly?
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #782 on: September 10, 2019, 09:34:07 am »
I'm just hoping that he's useful next year.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #783 on: September 10, 2019, 09:35:13 am »
I'm starting to get cautiously optimistic about seeing LMJ pitch this year.

They haven't publicly entertained that notion, have they?  Based on this rehab protocol from Dr. James Andrews (last page) he's on step 0 or 1 (depending on how you count it being halfway up the mound) of a minimum 12 steps before he even starts throwing breaking balls, and another minimum three steps beyond that before starting 15-pitch simulated games.  And this probably represents the best case scenario.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #784 on: September 10, 2019, 09:46:04 am »
I'm starting to get cautiously optimistic about seeing LMJ pitch this year.

He tweeted a video of it.  He was throwing about 50% effort from that slight downhill angle.  It looks like he's on step 1 of phase 2.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #785 on: September 10, 2019, 09:55:18 am »
He tweeted a video of it.  He was throwing about 50% effort from that slight downhill angle.  It looks like he's on step 1 of phase 2.

Yeah, no way this year.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #786 on: September 10, 2019, 10:24:46 am »
They haven't publicly entertained that notion, have they?  Based on this rehab protocol from Dr. James Andrews (last page) he's on step 0 or 1 (depending on how you count it being halfway up the mound) of a minimum 12 steps before he even starts throwing breaking balls, and another minimum three steps beyond that before starting 15-pitch simulated games.  And this probably represents the best case scenario.

That rehab protocol is really cool.  Wild that the best-known surgeon in American professional sports just posts stuff like that publicly. 

But...if I'm being overly optimistic, let's say he's in week 24 of that plan right now.  6 weeks from now, if the team is still playing, would he not be able to pitch at a game level?
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #787 on: September 10, 2019, 10:26:26 am »
I'm just hoping that he's useful next year.
Me too.  Luhnow has a tough task for next year as many of the possible solutions are question marks: current starters who are free agents, a Framber who didn’t advance and a Whitley who also didn’t advance. They’ll need Lance.

Thankfully, we can focus on the positives of the here and now.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #788 on: September 10, 2019, 11:00:35 am »
But...if I'm being overly optimistic, let's say he's in week 24 of that plan right now.  6 weeks from now, if the team is still playing, would he not be able to pitch at a game level?

The weeks you're referring to are in "Phase I" of the throwing program.  He just started Phase II (last page of the PDF).  Even if you assume that he progresses through each step every other day without any setbacks, he still won't be ready to throw simulated games until October.  And then if he's seeing game action then it'll be in the major league postseason.

He won't pitch in 2019.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #789 on: September 10, 2019, 05:11:17 pm »
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #790 on: September 10, 2019, 06:44:04 pm »
https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/1171545491114516480?s=19

Isn’t this the same guy that tweeted he’d like to play in the ASG because he was feeling good coming back from injury?

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #791 on: September 10, 2019, 07:02:07 pm »
Me too.  Luhnow has a tough task for next year as many of the possible solutions are question marks: current starters who are free agents, a Framber who didn’t advance and a Whitley who also didn’t advance. They’ll need Lance.

Thankfully, we can focus on the positives of the here and now.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #792 on: September 10, 2019, 07:17:31 pm »
Isn’t this the same guy that tweeted he’d like to play in the ASG because he was feeling good coming back from injury?

In the brain trust, I trust. Not some over eager, injury prone kid.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #793 on: September 10, 2019, 07:23:36 pm »
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #794 on: September 10, 2019, 08:09:00 pm »
could something be wrong with miley

Who knows?

A lot of soft contact against the shift started the ball rolling.

Disturbing last 2 starts though.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #795 on: September 10, 2019, 08:25:55 pm »
Who knows?

A lot of soft contact against the shift started the ball rolling.

Disturbing last 2 starts though.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #796 on: September 10, 2019, 08:54:57 pm »
Berman and Kaplan tweets:

A.J. Hinch spoke today of getting Ryan Pressly back for “the last 10 days of the season or so.” Sounds like Pressly could be ready even sooner but the Astros are being conservative with his rehab timeline.

AJ Hinch says if all goes well Carlos Correa will get a rehab assignment this week with @RRExpress
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #797 on: September 10, 2019, 10:40:45 pm »
Yelich broke his right kneecap tonight.
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« Reply #798 on: September 11, 2019, 07:18:29 am »
Yelich broke his right kneecap tonight.

Ewww, not good.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #799 on: September 17, 2019, 11:40:22 am »
Correa returns to the Astros tonight. Hitting 7th. Will probably play only a few innings.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #800 on: September 17, 2019, 12:39:49 pm »
Correa returns to the Astros tonight. Hitting 7th. Will probably play only a few innings.

Because they said so, or just because we’re so pessimistic at this point?


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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #801 on: September 17, 2019, 12:45:35 pm »
Hinch said that it would be like a Spring Training start for him.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #802 on: September 17, 2019, 05:45:53 pm »
McHugh still having pain.   They're shutting down his throwing program.

https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1174086258697441281?s=19

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #803 on: September 17, 2019, 05:56:31 pm »
McHugh still having pain.   They're shutting down his throwing program.

https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1174086258697441281?s=19

Sounds like the end as an Astro.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #804 on: September 17, 2019, 06:11:08 pm »
Sounds like the end as an Astro.

Yes.

Disappointed for him and the team.   He was not right all season.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #805 on: September 17, 2019, 07:15:04 pm »
Not unexpected, but I'll sure miss McHugh
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #806 on: September 18, 2019, 10:42:47 am »
Not unexpected, but I'll sure miss McHugh

Me, too. As much as a person as a pitcher. Class act.

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« Reply #807 on: September 18, 2019, 12:43:31 pm »
Me, too. As much as a person as a pitcher. Class act.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #808 on: September 19, 2019, 07:06:23 pm »
This is interesting: apparently the Cubs have decided to go ahead and put Rizzo at 1st base. In response, the Cards have decided that they have no qualms about bunting and making him move around.

ETA: And Rizzo returns the favor by jacking a home run.
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« Reply #809 on: September 28, 2019, 01:36:10 pm »

https://www.mlb.com/astros/news/carlos-correa-hopeful-for-astros-alds-matchup

It's the use of the word "still" in the headline that I find disconcerting.
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« Reply #810 on: September 28, 2019, 02:53:51 pm »
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« Reply #811 on: September 28, 2019, 06:40:37 pm »
Correa says he'll be good to go for the LDS.

Then he asked when it was.

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« Reply #812 on: September 28, 2019, 07:54:30 pm »
He breezed him, one more time!