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Aches and Pains (2019)
« on: February 27, 2019, 10:05:26 am »
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RHP Josh James suffered a right quad strain and is no longer a candidate for the starting rotation. He played catch today and Astros are hopeful he’ll pitch in enough games to be in the bullpen on Opening Day.

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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2019, 10:17:05 am »
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2019, 10:37:02 am »
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2019, 10:38:53 am »
Shit. He'll be extremely fun to watch out of the bullpen, but shit.


@Chandler_Rome: A.J. Hinch on the fifth starter competition without Josh James: “The kids that everyone will immediately go to — Whitley, Martin, Bukauskas — those guys are not options to break out of camp. They’re not ready to jump into a rotation.”

Candidates remain Peacock, Valdez, Rodgers


Rome also adds Perez & Armenteros are candidates as well.

ETA: But see McTaggart—"The fifth starter competition is essentially down to Peacock and Valdez."
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2019, 11:36:03 am »
Peacock. He might have won it anyway.
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2019, 12:29:35 pm »
Peacock. He might have won it anyway.
Yeah, it’ll be Brad. He will probably have to pitch his way out of the spot rather than the others pitching their way into it. Having said that, I hope it is the 2017 dominant version of Brad Peacock and not what we saw last year. Not that he was bad, he just didn’t look as sharp as the year before. Admittedly, that was a career year so it will be hard to repeat, but we can hope.

I think we will be fine no matter who winds up in the rotation or the bullpen. I actually think there may be a little more pressure coming out of the bullpen so Peacock might handle that better. But again, I think we are fine either way. One of the things I love about baseball is when the young kids get their shot. As such, I am really rooting for Perez, Valdez and Armenteros. Valdez just has to throw a few more strikes and he will be solid. Perez has got to move the ball around a little better and keep it in the yard. His stuff looks electric. And Armenteros, well, I really liked what I saw from him last spring. I believe he has a chance to be sneaky good. He may be the sleeper in the bunch excluding Whitley, Martin and JBB.

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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2019, 12:34:11 pm »
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2019, 01:41:43 pm »
not to insult  any bb gods but may this be the beginning and end of the list

McHugh was scheduled for two innings but came out after one due to back soreness.

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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2019, 01:44:24 pm »
Peacock would already have been in most (if not every) other teams’ rotation plans. They have built incredible depth in this organization.

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2019, 09:14:56 pm »
I think James could be a force out of the pen. 7th or 8th inning shut-down guy.

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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2019, 09:28:40 pm »
I think James could be a force out of the pen. 7th or 8th inning shut-down guy.
No doubt.  He could also throw 100ish innings as a starter.  So could Framber, Whitley or a bunch of other guys.

I hope that Cionel Perez just tears it up in ST this year, I liked watching him in his brief appearances.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2019, 02:11:45 pm »
Dean Deetz has right shoulder soreness.

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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2019, 11:47:37 am »
Dean Deetz has right shoulder soreness.

Deetz "is a couple of weeks away from getting into games" says McTaggart.

We'll see how well that timeline holds up.

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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2019, 09:27:22 am »
McHugh was scheduled for two innings but came out after one due to back soreness.

And now is being skipped in his next start (which was scheduled for tomorrow) and won't pitch again until next weekend.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2019, 10:32:37 am »
And now is being skipped in his next start (which was scheduled for tomorrow) and won't pitch again until next weekend.

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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2019, 10:37:25 am »
ST trade for a pitcher?

I wonder how far apart they and DK are. I don't know about all you guys, but I am worried about the starting rotation after Verlander and Cole.

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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2019, 11:30:51 am »
I wonder how far apart they and DK are. I don't know about all you guys, but I am worried about the starting rotation after Verlander and Cole.
I would think they are VERY far apart. If you are Dallas, if you take any number below the qualifying offer you are admitting failure. If you are Houston, anything close to the qualifying offer puts you so close to the tax threshold that your options come trade deadline time are slim and none if wanting to acquire an impact player. Now Crane could change his mind and tell Luhnow that he can go over the threshold for one year. That tax for one year wouldn’t be bad, but all I’ve heard is that they won’t go over. I would think that LA, Atlanta and Philly would offer more money than Houston in any short or long term deal.

Jim, in his post above about a ST trade, may be on to something.


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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2019, 12:21:28 pm »
Stroman should still be available. I don’t know how low Keuchel’s price would have to drop for Luhnow to give up that draft pick, but I bet it’s “pretty damn low.”

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2019, 09:32:20 pm »
Stroman should still be available. I don’t know how low Keuchel’s price would have to drop for Luhnow to give up that draft pick, but I bet it’s “pretty damn low.”

I agree. I think that the DK ship has sailed, for a port yet unknown..
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2019, 12:51:42 pm »
And now is being skipped in his next start (which was scheduled for tomorrow) and won't pitch again until next weekend.

The Morton (un)signing is my most disappointing Astros experience in the last 4 or 5 years.  With each starting pitcher tweak and strain this spring training, it's all the more disappointing...
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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2019, 02:50:27 pm »
The Morton (un)signing is my most disappointing Astros experience in the last 4 or 5 years.  With each starting pitcher tweak and strain this spring training, it's all the more disappointing...
I miss Charlie and I wish we had him back right now. Having said that, I think the Astros are smart. I think there’s enough in his medicals that they thought the risk was just too great. At least that is the only way I can make sense of the decision to let him go. The proof will be in the pudding and time will tell. If he’s on the DL have the year it’ll prove to have been a good move by the Astros. If he wins 15 games then……


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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2019, 06:22:30 pm »
The Morton (un)signing is my most disappointing Astros experience in the last 4 or 5 years.  With each starting pitcher tweak and strain this spring training, it's all the more disappointing...

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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2019, 06:32:15 pm »
The Morton (un)signing is my most disappointing Astros experience in the last 4 or 5 years.  With each starting pitcher tweak and strain this spring training, it's all the more disappointing...

Agreed.  They know more than we do, and I guess it was health concerns, but man I'm gonna miss that guy.
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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2019, 06:59:45 pm »
The wildest part is that Morton signed a relatively reasonable deal that left many here lamenting that the Astros didn’t match, yet the contract was the largest FA contract doled out in Rays history.


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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2019, 09:33:43 pm »
I miss Charlie and I wish we had him back right now. Having said that, I think the Astros are smart. I think there’s enough in his medicals that they thought the risk was just too great. At least that is the only way I can make sense of the decision to let him go. The proof will be in the pudding and time will tell. If he’s on the DL have the year it’ll prove to have been a good move by the Astros. If he wins 15 games then……

Yeah, I know...  I get the sneaky suspicion that the Astros will be shown to have been prudent, prescient, smart and fiscally correct about CFM before his two years are up. My disappointment is a reflection of his past performance and how much I like watching him throw his nasty filth. It was the right move but I just don’t like it for non-logical reasons.
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« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2019, 10:29:57 pm »
Yeah, I know...  I get the sneaky suspicion that the Astros will be shown to have been prudent, prescient, smart and fiscally correct about CFM before his two years are up. My disappointment is a reflection of his past performance and how much I like watching him throw his nasty filth. It was the right move but I just don’t like it for non-logical reasons.
I know what you mean. Over the last two years, I don’t know that I’ve felt prouder for any other Astros player than I have for CFM. Dude had been through a lot in his career and came out the other side on top in game 7 of the WS. He’s a champ on and off the field.


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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2019, 10:39:47 am »
I know what you mean. Over the last two years, I don’t know that I’ve felt prouder for any other Astros player than I have for CFM. Dude had been through a lot in his career and came out the other side on top in game 7 of the WS. He’s a champ on and off the field.


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« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2019, 12:29:43 pm »
CFM throwing unhittable filth the last three innings was one of the most thrilling things I've ever seen.

Seeing him come to bat in the top of the 9th was the most excited I've ever been to see a pitcher hit.
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« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2019, 01:43:27 pm »
Seeing him come to bat in the top of the 9th was the most excited I've ever been to see a pitcher hit.

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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2019, 07:17:10 pm »
“Whatever you do, don't swing.”

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« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2019, 09:43:25 pm »
I literally love CFM.
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« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2019, 08:35:34 am »
I literally love CFM.

I know I've been spoiled the past few years with the 'Stros ability to hang on to good "glue" players.   However I really hate to see Marwin and CFM go.  Probably my two favorite players during that time..

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« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2019, 02:26:33 pm »
Morton looked pretty good today in his second Spring start. Meanwhile Bregman apparently came out after making an early throw across to first and Chirinos came out after getting plunked.

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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2019, 04:10:27 pm »
Chron says "back stiffness" for Bregman.  Not good news, but better than elbow.

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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2019, 05:42:19 pm »
Chron says "back stiffness" for Bregman.  Not good news, but better than elbow.

Sure, because back stiffness didn’t derail Correa at all last year.


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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2019, 01:25:07 pm »
Derek Fisher injured his left shoulder and was removed from today's game after trying to make a diving catch.

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« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2019, 11:04:09 am »
Correa a late scratch from today's game with neck stiffness.

Let's hope stiffness is very different than discomfort.
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« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2019, 07:06:22 pm »
Correa a late scratch from today's game with neck stiffness.

Let's hope stiffness is very different than discomfort.

Correa's stiffness has now turned into discomfort. Questionable to start the opener.
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« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2019, 09:59:15 pm »
Daniella really needs to go easier on him.
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« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2019, 07:59:37 am »
Daniella really needs to go easier on him.

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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2019, 12:17:17 pm »
Thanks Sphinx.  That made me laugh.

Yahoo is showing Correa out for today's game.  Looks like Diaz getting the start today.  Dammit man.

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« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2019, 12:39:15 pm »
Yahoo is showing Correa out for today's game.  Looks like Diaz getting the start today.  Dammit man.

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« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2019, 12:47:15 pm »
How can he be so dang fragile!

I'm going to try and remain calm and hope this is just precautionary.  If he doesn't start by Saturday I'll be officially worried and buzz kill for the season, while probably not warranted, will quickly set in.

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« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2019, 01:24:56 pm »
Berman 20 minutes ago:  AJ Hinch told the media today in Tampa Carlos Correa's neck is still sore when he swings, but will do a full defensive workout today. AJ says the hope is that he’ll play at some point this series. Carlos is listed as day-to-day.
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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2019, 02:51:57 pm »
Correa out again.
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« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2019, 03:01:44 pm »
Correa out again.

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« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2019, 09:47:36 am »
Correa in today's lineup at SS and batting 4th.
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« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2019, 11:56:03 am »
Correa in today's lineup at SS and batting 4th.

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« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2019, 12:08:22 pm »
Correa in today's lineup at SS and batting 4th.
Yep, but Brantley isn’t. Don’t like that. Would like to see all the big guns in the order together at one time today in an effort to gain the split.


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« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2019, 12:50:09 pm »
Yep, but Brantley isn’t. Don’t like that. Would like to see all the big guns in the order together at one time today in an effort to gain the split.


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« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2019, 02:58:50 pm »
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« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2019, 06:37:33 pm »
Bregman not in tonight's lineup.
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« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2019, 07:25:56 pm »
Bregman not in tonight's lineup.
It's best not to rush a hamstring issue. Probably a cautionary move would be to let him rest it another game or two.
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« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2019, 08:20:11 pm »
Bregman not in tonight's lineup.

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« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2019, 09:54:17 pm »
Chronicle says maybe Saturday.

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"Things are trending towards him playing tomorrow if all goes well," Hinch said Friday. "We thought (Bregman would return) this weekend, but you never know how these things respond."

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« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2019, 12:42:25 am »
It's best not to rush a hamstring issue. Probably a cautionary move would be to let him rest it another game or two.
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« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2019, 12:47:23 pm »
Yes. Do NOT fuck with hamstrings. That shit will drag on for weeks if you come back too soon
Absolutely. Wait until it's 100%, absolutely no doubt whatsoever certain that he's ready to go. Then wait a couple of more days.
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« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2019, 05:32:38 pm »
Bregman in the lineup at 3B tonight.

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« Reply #58 on: May 01, 2019, 10:28:13 pm »
Kluber took a 102 mph liner to the forearm; fractured ulna.

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« Reply #59 on: May 02, 2019, 08:29:56 am »
Kluber took a 102 mph liner to the forearm; fractured ulna.

Google tells me that he'll be in a cast for a month minimum.

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« Reply #60 on: May 02, 2019, 09:07:38 am »
Google tells me that he'll be in a cast for a month minimum.

From an article I read this morn:
https://www.mlb.com/news/impact-of-corey-kluber-s-injury-on-indians
Blue Jays prospect Nate Pearson suffered a similar injury last May and missed the remainder of the season. He was throwing live BP by August.

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« Reply #61 on: May 02, 2019, 09:15:40 am »
Kluber took a 102 mph liner to the forearm; fractured ulna.

Remove him from the trade want list.

Who is on it? Stroganoff? Madbum?  Who else? Must be a frontline starter.
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« Reply #62 on: May 02, 2019, 09:51:42 am »
Stroganoff

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« Reply #63 on: May 02, 2019, 09:54:27 am »
Not sure if autocorrect or on purpose, but I'm a fan.

It's settled.   We need him, and his name will be Stroganoff.

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« Reply #64 on: May 02, 2019, 09:59:05 am »
Not sure if autocorrect or on purpose, but I'm a fan.

Autocorrect for Stroman. Too funny!
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Autocorrect for Stroman. Too funny!

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Autocorrect for Stroman. Too funny!

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« Reply #67 on: May 02, 2019, 10:02:57 am »
Remove him from the trade want list.

Who is on it? Stroganoff? Madbum?  Who else? Must be a frontline starter.
Madbum would be great and being a lefty fits. Stroman would be my choice if I had one. I just love the way the guy plays. Robbie Ray would still be on my list. Aaron Sanchez has been really good to start the year for Toronto but he has had some major injury issues in his past. Arizona would have to eat quite a bit of the money but Zack Greinke would be pretty great.

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« Reply #68 on: May 02, 2019, 10:15:13 am »
It's settled.   We need him, and his name will be Stroganoff.

But he’s certainly not beefy.


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Why would anyone trade a good pitcher at this point in the season?

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Why would anyone trade a good pitcher at this point in the season?

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« Reply #72 on: May 02, 2019, 12:09:39 pm »
Why would anyone trade a good pitcher at this point in the season?

Wouldn't you give up more for five months of a Stroganoff or MadBum than for two?

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Wouldn't you give up more for five months of a Stroganoff or MadBum than for two?

Maybe, but those teams still have to play games and none them are so terrible to write the whole season off.

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Why would anyone trade a good pitcher at this point in the season?

Not saying they would. No one has given up yet, but reality may be creeping in.
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« Reply #77 on: May 18, 2019, 05:56:32 pm »
What is the status on Diaz and his hamstring? White is at first tonight with Yuli at second.


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I think Diaz is "day to day". Which means he'll be back after the All Star break.
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What is the status on Diaz and his hamstring? White is at first tonight with Yuli at second.


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Well, that's better than the other way around, I suppose.
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« Reply #81 on: May 19, 2019, 05:16:01 pm »
Here are Springer's comments after coming out of Sunday's game:

https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1130223366911213569?s=19

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“Back problems are perfectly normal and you should totally play through them.”

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It is just my opinion, but I hope George goes to the DL if necessary. I don’t want him back unless he is 100%. The Astros went thru this with Correa last year and it didn’t go so well.

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its a pain to see the amount of injuries they are adding up

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Kemp played 2B at Vandy, he's better for the position than Gurriel

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Not an Astro, but the Mets just announced that Yoenis Cespedes suffered multiple fractures to his ankle when he fell from something (not a horse) on his ranch.


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Springer says his MRI was “good news” but the team has not yet cleared him to play. Not in tonight’s lineup.


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Springer says his MRI was “good news” but the team has not yet cleared him to play. Not in tonight’s lineup.


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The bench is thin with these non-IL “discomforts.”
Hinch may be uncomfortable with so much discomfort.
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Not an Astro, but the Mets just announced that Yoenis Cespedes suffered multiple fractures to his ankle when he fell from something (not a horse) on his ranch.


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Andrelton Simmons just rolled/broke the hell out of his ankle on the 1B bag

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Chandler Rome tweet:

Collin McHugh is going on the 10-day injured list with right elbow discomfort. The Astros recalled Brady Rodgers


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Chandler Rome tweet:

Collin McHugh is going on the 10-day injured list with right elbow discomfort. The Astros recalled Brady Rodgers


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« Reply #95 on: May 21, 2019, 03:51:34 pm »
Rogers on the major league team means that Astros' pitching is desperately thin.
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Rogers on the major league team means that Astros' pitching is desperately thin.
I don’t know how he is pitched at round rock, but the thought above is mine as well, off the top of my head.


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« Reply #98 on: May 21, 2019, 04:02:04 pm »
No one but Martin has been consistently good in RR. Rodgers has not been bad. The bullpen has been awful lately.
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Chandler Rome tweet:

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That explains why he went from good to shit so quick.  Looking at his games logs it seems pretty clear his elbow blew up after pitching in Oakland in mid-April.
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« Reply #100 on: May 21, 2019, 04:30:46 pm »
Rogers on the major league team means that Astros' pitching is desperately thin.

Who would have thought you’d see both Martin and Rogers before Whitley this year?


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« Reply #101 on: May 21, 2019, 04:40:57 pm »
Who would have thought you’d see both Martin and Rogers before Whitley this year?


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Rodgers has always been a Luhnow favorite.

How good has the pitching been?  Right now the highest ERA on the active pitching staff is Devo's 5.60.  Everyone else is 4.56 (James) or below.  All 5 current starters are below 4.00.
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« Reply #102 on: May 21, 2019, 06:43:55 pm »
Rodgers was going to pitch tonight in RR. Express pitching has been bad lately.
I’m curious, where do you get this info? I used to get this from the game notes in the media section at their website, but they are a few days behind.  I’m trying to find out when Whitley is slated to throw.

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« Reply #104 on: May 21, 2019, 09:51:56 pm »
Watching it live, and again on replays, I'm not sure how that wasn't worse.

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I’m curious, where do you get this info? I used to get this from the game notes in the media section at their website, but they are a few days behind.  I’m trying to find out when Whitley is slated to throw.

From a friend. Whitley is throwing Thursday, I think.
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From a friend. Whitley is throwing Thursday, I think.
It is also pretty easy to track the rotation on MILB.com -and they usually post probables early in the day.
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« Reply #107 on: May 22, 2019, 09:19:03 am »
It is also pretty easy to track the rotation on MILB.com -and they usually post probables early in the day.
Not always easy to have certainty, especially with the tandems..  When I went last week, I followed the prior weeks tandem scheduling.  Based on that progression, it would have been Whitley's tandem turn, but they used Urquidez in his debut, and pushed the Whitley tandem back a day. 

And tonight, Milb has Sneed listed as a starter.  Well, he has been used in Tandem with Whitley, but Sneed started last tandem and only went 1.2, so if he is starting tonight, is he still in a tandem with Whitley (they usually alternate starting)?  I am going to assume that Whitley and Sneed are no longer in tandem and that Jim is correct that Whitley is going Thursday.

Anyways, you get the point.  If they would just keep their gamenotes up to date (they are presently three days behind), it would be easier.

 

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« Reply #108 on: May 22, 2019, 09:30:59 am »
Not always easy to have certainty, especially with the tandems..  When I went last week, I followed the prior weeks tandem scheduling.  Based on that progression, it would have been Whitley's tandem turn, but they used Urquidez in his debut, and pushed the Whitley tandem back a day. 

And tonight, Milb has Sneed listed as a starter.  Well, he has been used in Tandem with Whitley, but Sneed started last tandem and only went 1.2, so if he is starting tonight, is he still in a tandem with Whitley (they usually alternate starting)?  I am going to assume that Whitley and Sneed are no longer in tandem and that Jim is correct that Whitley is going Thursday.

Anyways, you get the point.  If they would just keep their gamenotes up to date (they are presently three days behind), it would be easier.

 

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« Reply #110 on: May 24, 2019, 10:33:52 pm »
MLB Network just reported the Hinch expects Springer to go on the IL. "I'm not looking forward to the diagnosis" says Hinch.

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« Reply #111 on: May 25, 2019, 08:18:47 am »
Fisher up, says Kaplan.

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« Reply #112 on: May 25, 2019, 08:21:15 am »
Fisher up, says Kaplan.

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He is having a good year. Theoretically he can play CF, but he is only average in the field, IMO.
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He is having a good year. Theoretically he can play CF, but he is only average in the field, IMO.

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« Reply #116 on: May 25, 2019, 09:08:56 am »
I just recalled that they had at least put him there in 2017.

Yeah, he's been out there. He's fast, but I remember his first step being late and his routes being less than perfect. Maybe he's improved that over the last year.
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« Reply #117 on: May 25, 2019, 10:01:28 am »
I just recalled that they had at least put him there in 2017.


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« Reply #118 on: May 25, 2019, 11:10:54 am »
He is having a good year. Theoretically he can play CF, but he is only average in the field, IMO.

I expect him to play when Marisnick doesn't and spell Reddick in right at times.
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« Reply #119 on: May 26, 2019, 08:58:55 am »
McTag says Stubbs is getting called up so I guess Stassi will go to the IL.
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« Reply #120 on: May 26, 2019, 09:08:16 am »
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McTag says Stubbs is getting called up so I guess Stassi will go to the IL.

Stassi says MRI was negative for badness:

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« Reply #124 on: May 26, 2019, 02:40:08 pm »
So currently injured Astros:
Altuve, Springer, McHugh, McCullers, Joe Smith, AlmedaMall Diaz, Stassi.

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« Reply #125 on: May 26, 2019, 03:01:15 pm »
Holy smokes.

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« Reply #126 on: May 26, 2019, 03:03:43 pm »
...Joe Smith,

Good grief, he’s not even in the league anymore, is he?

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« Reply #127 on: May 27, 2019, 09:16:42 am »
Diaz to the DL, Jack Mayfield called up
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« Reply #128 on: May 27, 2019, 09:57:03 am »
Diaz to the DL, Jack Mayfield called up

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This is so great.
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Yeah, I agree. Great opportunity for Jack. Hopefully he’ll get to play a little before Altuve is activated.


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Diaz to the DL, Jack Mayfield called up

A short clip of Mayfield recounting how he was told he was coming up.

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This is so great.
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A short clip of Mayfield recounting how he was told he was coming up.

That smile is great.  Sometimes we forget these guys have dreams and doubts.  The call up is so huge in their lives and their families'.

https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1133031660864266240?s=19

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Mayfield gets the start today at 2B.

I'm glad they're doing this, because I imagine that he'll have to go back to Round Rock when Altuve gets activated.
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« Reply #137 on: May 27, 2019, 12:46:31 pm »
I'm glad they're doing this, because I imagine that he'll have to go back to Round Rock when Altuve gets activated.

I doubt it. I think he is replacing Diaz.
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I doubt it. I think he is replacing Diaz.
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« Reply #139 on: May 27, 2019, 03:13:19 pm »
Exactly.
So when Altuve is activated, who goes down? Fisher????? I don’t see them going back to 12 pitchers. If you don’t DFA or trade White or Kemp, then Mayfield or Fisher have to go.


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So when Altuve is activated, who goes down? Fisher????? I don’t see them going back to 12 pitchers. If you don’t DFA or trade White or Kemp, then Mayfield or Fisher have to go.


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So much angst.
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I know. A nice problem to have. I hope Mayfield and Fisher make Luhnow’s decision REALLY difficult.


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I really believe Fisher can play successfully at the MLB level if given a chance. I hope they can include him in a deal for a pitcher.

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I really believe Fisher can play successfully at the MLB level if given a chance. I hope they can include him in a deal for a pitcher.

That is my hope too. I hope he again is a wanted prospect.
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I know. A nice problem to have. I hope Mayfield and Fisher make Luhnow’s decision REALLY difficult easy.


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No explanation, but Chandler Rome reporting Correa out of the lineup for 2nd straight day.

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No explanation, but Chandler Rome reporting Correa out of the lineup for 2nd straight day.
AJ said rib soreness is the cause for him not being in the lineup and he's be evaluated

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AJ said rib soreness is the cause for him not being in the lineup and he's be evaluated

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So three fractured ribs, got it!
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Springer hammy
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« Reply #151 on: May 28, 2019, 04:51:01 pm »
Tonight’s lineup has Fisher leading off. Also has Mayfield, Stubbs, White, Kemp and Marisnick. Oh, and the staring pitcher is Corbin Martin. I’ll bet no one, in their wildest imagination, would have ever come up with those players together in a starting lineup against the Cubs for a REGULAR season game.

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« Reply #152 on: May 28, 2019, 04:52:00 pm »
Altuve...now soreness/fatigue in surgically repaired knee

Wait...what?

edit:  here's Hinch talking about Altuve and Correa

https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1133485390445326336
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« Reply #153 on: May 28, 2019, 05:01:26 pm »
Tonight’s lineup has Fisher leading off. Also has Mayfield, Stubbs, White, Kemp and Marisnick. Oh, and the staring pitcher is Corbin Martin. I’ll bet no one, in their wildest imagination, would have ever come up with those players together in a starting lineup against the Cubs for a REGULAR season game.

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Wait...what?

edit:  here's Hinch talking about Altuve and Correa

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« Reply #155 on: May 28, 2019, 05:05:44 pm »
Wait...what?

edit:  here's Hinch talking about Altuve and Correa

https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1133485390445326336

Pretty common with knee rehabs in my experience (soccer) --- that the surrounding larger leg muscles (quad, hamstring, gluts, and calves are more likely to get strained) to compensate for a little weakness here and there (and aging does not help the process).

But apologies Lefty, did not mean to insinuate that Altuve has a knee issue (it is the probably the reciprocal reaction to rehabing fatigued leg muscles coming off injury).  Pretty normal feedback loop for the inside medical sports groupies.
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« Reply #156 on: May 28, 2019, 05:18:43 pm »
Pretty common with knee rehabs in my experience (soccer) --- that the surrounding larger leg muscles (quad, hamstring, gluts, and calves are more likely to get strained) to compensate for a little weakness here and there (and aging does not help the process).

But apologies Lefty, did not mean to insinuate that Altuve has a knee issue (it is the probably the reciprocal reaction to rehabing fatigued leg muscles coming off injury).  Pretty normal feedback loop for the inside medical sports groupies.

No need to apologize, I just hadn't heard that about Altuve until you mentioned it.  Then I saw the interview. 

I've been down that road before with both knees, and you're absolutely right about the rehab process.
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« Reply #157 on: May 28, 2019, 05:41:49 pm »
Wait...what?

edit:  here's Hinch talking about Altuve and Correa

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« Reply #159 on: May 28, 2019, 05:56:54 pm »
This is going to (continue to) chew the hell out of their bullpen. They basically have no other way to win right now but to get good starting pitching and squeeze out a few dinks and dunks and maybe a solo homer or two from what's left of their offense. That's save situations and other high leverage innings for their bullpen, night after night. Pressley and Osuna are already feeling the strain...
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« Reply #160 on: May 28, 2019, 05:59:58 pm »
This is going to (continue to) chew the hell out of their bullpen. They basically have no other way to win right now but to get good starting pitching and squeeze out a few dinks and dunks and maybe a solo homer or two from what's left of their offense. That's save situations and other high leverage innings for their bullpen, night after night. Pressley and Osuna are already feeling the strain...

I doubt your final sentence. Hinch gives them plenty of rest.
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This is going to (continue to) chew the hell out of their bullpen. They basically have no other way to win right now but to get good starting pitching and squeeze out a few dinks and dunks and maybe a solo homer or two from what's left of their offense. That's save situations and other high leverage innings for their bullpen, night after night. Pressley and Osuna are already feeling the strain...

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This is going to (continue to) chew the hell out of their bullpen. They basically have no other way to win right now but to get good starting pitching and squeeze out a few dinks and dunks and maybe a solo homer or two from what's left of their offense. That's save situations and other high leverage innings for their bullpen, night after night. Pressley and Osuna are already feeling the strain...
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« Reply #163 on: May 28, 2019, 06:02:37 pm »
Tags tweet:  Jeff Luhnow on Correa and Altuve, both of whom are seeing doctors today: "I don't anticipate any of the injuries we have right now to be long term or to affect these players for the rest of the season, maybe for a couple of weeks here."

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« Reply #164 on: May 28, 2019, 06:09:38 pm »
This is going to (continue to) chew the hell out of their bullpen. They basically have no other way to win right now but to get good starting pitching and squeeze out a few dinks and dunks and maybe a solo homer or two from what's left of their offense. That's save situations and other high leverage innings for their bullpen, night after night. Pressley and Osuna are already feeling the strain...
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« Reply #165 on: May 28, 2019, 06:18:24 pm »
Tags tweet:  Jeff Luhnow on Correa and Altuve, both of whom are seeing doctors today: "I don't anticipate any of the injuries we have right now to be long term or to affect these players for the rest of the season, maybe for a couple of weeks here."

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« Reply #166 on: May 28, 2019, 06:19:57 pm »
AJ said rib soreness is the cause for him not being in the lineup and he's be evaluated

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I would disagree with the last part. Yes not all appearances are created equal but AJ does a great job of spreading out the workload

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« Reply #168 on: May 28, 2019, 06:38:23 pm »
Yet the line is Astros -130.

I'm guessing that there is a lot of money coming in on the Cubs about now.
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« Reply #170 on: May 28, 2019, 06:55:09 pm »
WTF happened to Correa if he was fine yesterday?

While "doing some things" and "getting treatment" at his house today he felt something in his ribs, per Hinch

AJ had him in tonight and had to redo the lineup card.
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« Reply #171 on: May 28, 2019, 07:28:49 pm »
While "doing some things" and "getting treatment" at his house today he felt something in his ribs, per Hinch

AJ had him in tonight and had to redo the lineup card.

I read all of that and listened to his interview. My question still is WTF?
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« Reply #172 on: May 28, 2019, 07:46:51 pm »
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« Reply #173 on: May 28, 2019, 07:47:33 pm »
Correa is awfully fragile.
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« Reply #174 on: May 28, 2019, 07:55:23 pm »
I read all of that and listened to his interview. My question still is WTF?

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« Reply #175 on: May 28, 2019, 07:55:42 pm »
Correa is awfully fragile.

So is Springer. At least his injuries have causes.
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« Reply #176 on: May 28, 2019, 07:56:51 pm »
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« Reply #177 on: May 28, 2019, 11:15:43 pm »
Tags tweet:  A.J. Hinch said the Astros received “encouraging” news about Jose Altuve. Altuve will need some time to “strengthen his lower half.”  Nothing new on Correa.
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« Reply #178 on: May 29, 2019, 07:30:37 am »
Tags tweet:  A.J. Hinch said the Astros received “encouraging” news about Jose Altuve. Altuve will need some time to “strengthen his lower half.”  Nothing new on Correa.

I think “nothing on Correa” is more accurate. Hinch was clearly upset last night about Correa and Altuve.
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« Reply #179 on: May 29, 2019, 10:59:13 am »
Correa out 3-4 weeks with a cracked rib.


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« Reply #180 on: May 29, 2019, 11:01:25 am »
Wow.  Any word on how?

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« Reply #181 on: May 29, 2019, 11:01:50 am »
Correa out 3-4 weeks with a cracked rib.


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Correa out 3-4 weeks with a cracked rib.


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« Reply #183 on: May 29, 2019, 11:10:06 am »
Straw up.


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How did he crack a rib?

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« Reply #185 on: May 29, 2019, 11:14:08 am »
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« Reply #186 on: May 29, 2019, 11:17:46 am »
Maybe he thwarted a robbery.

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« Reply #187 on: May 29, 2019, 11:17:49 am »
Wow, bad news. And someone here yesterday was joking about him having broken ribs like it wasn’t a possibility.


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« Reply #188 on: May 29, 2019, 11:23:43 am »
Well shit. Seriously how the fuck did he fracture his ribs?

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« Reply #189 on: May 29, 2019, 11:30:00 am »
Chandler Rome: "More to come, but Astros GM Jeff Luhnow said Carlos Correa's fractured rib occurred at his house before he came to Minute Maid Park on Tuesday. Luhnow said he was not at liberty to specify what exactly happened"

McTaggart: "Luhnow said he's comfortable with the Astros' organizational depth, but said he will look externally to see if there are any options that make sense."

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Luhnow said the injury occurred at home and he was not at liberty to say how.

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« Reply #191 on: May 29, 2019, 11:37:59 am »
Luhnow said the injury occurred at home and he was not at liberty to say how.

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Luhnow said the injury occurred at home and he was not at liberty to say how.

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« Reply #193 on: May 29, 2019, 11:39:53 am »
Luhnow said the injury occurred at home and he was not at liberty to say how.

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Has to be, right? I'm just wondering what the hell position they were trying

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« Reply #195 on: May 29, 2019, 11:49:22 am »
Or worse
My immediate reaction, based on the apparent secrecy, was that his wife got him, but it's probably something innocuous or innocuously careless and/or embarrassing.

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« Reply #196 on: May 29, 2019, 11:59:13 am »
Fell thru a sliding glass door aka the hunter pence?
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« Reply #197 on: May 29, 2019, 12:14:18 pm »
Has to be, right? I'm just wondering what the hell position they were trying

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Luhnow said the injury occurred at home and he was not at liberty to say how.

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« Reply #199 on: May 29, 2019, 12:30:18 pm »
4 to 6 weeks is what I read.

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« Reply #200 on: May 29, 2019, 12:37:51 pm »
per McTag tweet:

All-Star shortstop Carlos Correa has been placed on the 10-day Injured List due to a fractured rib. The injury will keep Correa out of action for approximately 4-6 weeks.
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« Reply #202 on: May 29, 2019, 01:37:15 pm »
Altuve could be out another 10-14 BEFORE starting a rehab stint according to Mctaggart

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« Reply #203 on: May 29, 2019, 01:44:04 pm »
Days or weeks?
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« Reply #204 on: May 29, 2019, 01:59:16 pm »
Sound General Quarters. All hands on deck. Bregman, Brantley, Reddick, Verlander et al have to show strong leadership for the bench and AAA players who are now going to get extended starting duties.
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Really surprised were not looking at a regular infield of Yuli-Bregman-Kemp-Alvarez now.


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« Reply #206 on: May 29, 2019, 02:19:52 pm »
The organization has built a great culture at AAA. Call ups are ready to play. Stubbs, Mayfield and Fisher contributing immediately. James and Valdez really performed in super high pressure pennant race.
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Really surprised were not looking at a regular infield of Yuli-Bregman-Kemp-Alvarez now.


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What are the odds of a Bregman hammy now?   

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« Reply #209 on: May 29, 2019, 02:32:01 pm »
Defense will be ok, but there is a lot of run production on the IL.
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« Reply #210 on: May 29, 2019, 02:32:43 pm »
Days or weeks?
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What are the odds of a Bregman hammy now?   

And no, not jinxing the guy --- just saying the way things are going, he's in line for the next episode of ASTROS ER
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« Reply #212 on: May 29, 2019, 02:33:59 pm »
What are the odds of a * * now?   

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« Reply #213 on: May 29, 2019, 02:35:05 pm »
How did he fracture his rib while at home on an off day?
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« Reply #214 on: May 29, 2019, 02:46:11 pm »
Yuli at 3rd, Bregman at SS, Kemp at 2nd, Alvarez at 1st. Maybe Tucker in the OF at some point if Fisher struggles? All you roster experts can explain how this would work out.

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« Reply #215 on: May 29, 2019, 02:51:45 pm »
Whitley to the Minor League IL. Right shoulder fatigue.
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Oh hey, Whitley is on the IL with “arm fatigue” and heading to Florida for rehab.


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Oh hey, Whitley is on the IL with “arm fatigue” and heading to Florida for rehab.


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« Reply #218 on: May 29, 2019, 02:55:15 pm »
Defense will be ok, but there is a lot of run production on the IL.
I agree Jim. I think ultimately we can weather the storm. It may be frustrating at times. Hell, it may even be ugly at times, but I think we ultimately pull through this because of the depth and quality of the players in this organization. Having said that, the starting pitching will need to be fixed to help weather this storm. Cole needs to tighten up just a little bit. Verlander, Miley and Peacock are fine. Beyond those four, someone is going to have to really step up like Fiers and Peacock did in 2017, or a trade for the starter will have to be made now, not at the deadline.


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« Reply #219 on: May 29, 2019, 02:55:25 pm »
The organization has built a great culture at AAA. Call ups are ready to play. Stubbs, Mayfield and Fisher contributing immediately. James and Valdez really performed in super high pressure pennant race.

My good RR source told me the attitude in the clubhouse is fantastic. Most knew they were blocked (before the injuries) but were not unhappy. The Astros treat them so well they do not want to leave.
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« Reply #220 on: May 29, 2019, 02:59:33 pm »
Whitley has been placed on the minors IL.

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How did he fracture his rib while at home on an off day?

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My good RR source told me the attitude in the clubhouse is fantastic. Most knew they were blocked (before the injuries) but were not unhappy. The Astros treat them so well they do not want to leave.

But talking heads told me they just are numbers to Luhnow!


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« Reply #223 on: May 29, 2019, 03:03:20 pm »
But talking heads told me they just are numbers to Luhnow!


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« Reply #224 on: May 29, 2019, 03:05:56 pm »
Whitley has been placed on the minors IL.

Right shoulder fatigue.

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« Reply #225 on: May 29, 2019, 03:08:27 pm »
Three times in this thread now and once in the Bus Ride. What’s the Cabrera record?

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« Reply #226 on: May 29, 2019, 03:19:13 pm »
Three times in this thread now and once in the Bus Ride. What’s the Cabrera record?
Sorry. I guess I missed it in the myriad of posts regarding Correa’s extra curricular activities.


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« Reply #227 on: May 29, 2019, 04:58:02 pm »
Correa released a statement saying that he "sustained the rib fracture during a massage at my home on tuesday"

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« Reply #228 on: May 29, 2019, 05:00:11 pm »
Nice try.
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« Reply #229 on: May 29, 2019, 05:03:35 pm »
I'm extremely disappointed that a mere rub down could cause such an injury. So unusual and frustrating.
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« Reply #230 on: May 29, 2019, 05:12:47 pm »
What the fuck, Carlos? Alou’s treadmill again?

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« Reply #231 on: May 29, 2019, 05:16:19 pm »
This may be incredibly obvious, but the “ask Carlos about it” line leads me to believe that the club is more than slightly unhappy about it.


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« Reply #232 on: May 29, 2019, 05:47:20 pm »
Correa released a statement saying that he "sustained the rib fracture during a massage at my home on tuesday"


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« Reply #233 on: May 29, 2019, 05:53:08 pm »
Correa released a statement saying that he "sustained the rib fracture during a massage at my home on tuesday"

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Seriously?! WTF?! I’ve never heard of anything like that... Is he made of glass?

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« Reply #234 on: May 29, 2019, 05:54:15 pm »
This may be incredibly obvious, but the “ask Carlos about it” line leads me to believe that the club is more than slightly unhappy about it.


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Furious may be a better word.

Weak, Carlos, very  weak. How does a massage break your ribs?

This could affect his long-term future with the team.
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« Reply #235 on: May 29, 2019, 06:04:30 pm »
Certainly infuriating to me.

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« Reply #236 on: May 29, 2019, 06:05:40 pm »
Was it a deep tissue massage?
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I'm just glad nobody is overreacting to Correa's injury.
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« Reply #238 on: May 29, 2019, 06:17:07 pm »
I'm just glad nobody is overreacting to Correa's injury.

It’s over. He’s dead. We’ve moved on, so should you.


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« Reply #239 on: May 29, 2019, 06:25:58 pm »
Furious may be a better word.

Weak, Carlos, very  weak. How does a massage break your ribs?

This could affect his long-term future with the team.

If you don’t think Luhnow has already considered that Bregman’s contract looks even better if he’s a full time SS, folks, think again.


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« Reply #240 on: May 29, 2019, 06:32:14 pm »
Furious may be a better word.

Weak, Carlos, very  weak. How does a massage break your ribs?

This could affect his long-term future with the team.
Yep. Just another straw on the pile. I don’t care how good you are or can be, if you can’t stay in the lineup, I have to look elsewhere.


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« Reply #241 on: May 30, 2019, 01:20:21 am »
Was it a deep tissue massage?

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« Reply #242 on: May 30, 2019, 09:53:00 am »
If you don’t think Luhnow has already considered that Bregman’s contract looks even better if he’s a full time SS, folks, think again.

Carlos makes a point to not get in the middle of "walk off" celebrations, trying to protect himself. 

(Found this NYT write up of 2017 Game 5 while looking for a video of him circling the pack after Bregman's winning hit.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/29/sports/world-series-dodgers-astros.html
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« Reply #243 on: May 30, 2019, 09:57:18 am »
Carlos makes a point to not get in the middle of "walk off" celebrations, trying to protect himself. 

(Found this NYT write up of 2017 Game 5 while looking for a video of him circling the pack after Bregman's winning hit.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/29/sports/world-series-dodgers-astros.html

That was obvious after his walkoff single recently. He kept them away from him, and his teammates did not gang up on him.
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« Reply #244 on: May 30, 2019, 10:24:39 am »
Breaking News: Doctors reveal that Carlos Correa's bones are made of cotton candy
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« Reply #245 on: May 30, 2019, 10:47:01 am »
Either that or his wife’s are made of granite.
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« Reply #246 on: May 30, 2019, 11:05:15 am »
Cotton Candyman was such a bad superhero he couldn't make the MCU cut.
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« Reply #247 on: May 30, 2019, 11:16:58 am »
Cotton Candyman was such a bad superhero he couldn't make the MCU cut.

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« Reply #248 on: May 30, 2019, 11:46:41 am »
Breaking News: Doctors reveal that Carlos Correa's bones are made of cotton candy

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« Reply #249 on: May 30, 2019, 01:52:58 pm »
Breaking News: Doctors reveal that Carlos Correa's bones are made of cotton candy

Cecil Upshaw’s tearing up his finger on an awning after leaping up on a dare is one of my fave non-performance injury

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« Reply #250 on: May 30, 2019, 02:06:41 pm »
Kevin Mitchell breaking a tooth on a frozen donut.

Kevin Mitchell sneezing, breaking rib.

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« Reply #251 on: May 30, 2019, 02:15:55 pm »
Kevin Mitchell breaking a tooth on a frozen donut.

Kevin Mitchell sneezing, breaking rib.

But a broken rib from "a massage" is ridiculous.
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« Reply #253 on: May 30, 2019, 02:31:54 pm »
Wade Boggs would like to have a word with all of you.

https://tht.fangraphs.com/tht-live/silver-anniversary-of-bizarre-wade-boggs-injury-6-9-11/

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« Reply #254 on: May 30, 2019, 02:43:24 pm »
http://mentalfloss.com/article/29000/24-most-bizarre-injuries-baseball-history

From the above list, Griffey's to me is a no doubt #1. What tha crap man?

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# 6. According to the legend of Clarence Blethen, the Red Sox rookie pitcher in 1923 thought he looked meaner without his false teeth when he was on the mound. He supposedly didn't think to put them back in his mouth while he batted. That led to Blethen sliding into second base and getting bit in the posterior by his own teeth.

Correa's will be on some future lists no doubt.
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Good to see Sparks in the top 5.

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« Reply #257 on: May 30, 2019, 03:19:36 pm »
http://mentalfloss.com/article/29000/24-most-bizarre-injuries-baseball-history

From the above list, Griffey's to me is a no doubt #1. What tha crap man?

Correa's will be on some future lists no doubt.

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« Reply #258 on: May 30, 2019, 09:39:08 pm »
Warning, boring massage story ahead... be warned, pull the eject cord on this post in five, four, three, two....

Holy crap, why did Alkie never tell us a story of broken bones with all the rub girls we provided him! That guy was wiry and quick I suppose. So last week I could not sleep because of a muscle spasm in my upper back near the shoulder blade. The muscle knot, about the size of a pea but very pronounced, would push against a nerve when I would lay down to sleep... shooting some major pain down my right arm. The only time the knot would not pinch the nerve was when I was standing up and the only thing I felt was the soreness from the muscle. I tried everything to get rid of the knot, looked at every youtube video from a physical therapist on how to work the muscle spasm into submission. When I got tired of not sleeping, I finally relented and went to my family doctor and begged... errr... asked for painkillers or even a cortisone shot. Doc said only an orthopedist can inject cortisone and he recommended one. I called the doctor to make an appointment and he said he'd see me late June. WTF! I'm in pain now... so shoot me up now... not in late June. He said get in line. Apparently sports-related injuries of this kind are common. Yes, I hurt my shoulder/upper back working out and playing/practicing for a National Tournamet for volleyball in June. What made it worse was the advice the ortho-doc gave me "Hey, there are a ton of great videos on YouTube on how to work that muscle spasm out. You should try looking at some of them." Ugh! Oddly enough, I went back and noticed one titled "Give yourself a massage to work out knots in your back". Okay, you've peaked my interest.

Apparently there are methods to self-massage yourself (back away people, I'm not talking about that... stay with me). There are also tools that physical therapist use including this contraption.  Straight out of the old English torture chambers looks like... or something used in filthy shades of gray. Any how, I decided why not pay someone to go ahead and give me an upper shoulder/back massage. After looking through where to go and discounting almost all of them, I found a place... at Whole Foods. So off I went. I walk in (no appointment necessary), tell the burly 5'8" Russian bald dude (I think he was Russian, he had an accent) "Massage now, upper right side, back... stat!" So he sat me on a chair, said he charged by increments of 20 minutes, I said fine because I figured he can work out a knot the size of a pea in 20. "Deal" says I and let the massaging begin!

I put my face into the chair head rest leaning forward onto a circular oh-ring shaped cushion. Oh-ring because that is the sound I kept making when he started the deep rub. He stopped several times to gently and kindly tell me to "man up and stop crying!" (not in those precise words, but the meaning was clear). He had some serious massaging to do to get that bugger. I don't know this for a fact but I suspect muscle spasms have a mind of their own and dodge and weave in order to avoid the roaming hands of a professional massuse. He went at the muscle from every angle possible including one very uncomfortable (for me) position from the front of the chair while stepping up a few pegs on the front of the chair legs to get leverage. Now the "oh" yelps were for a very different reason, man croutch is not very complimentary to having to pay for this treatment. I wanted a discount for having to endure this procedure. But he was determined and he went after that knot. And I will admit there were a few times I felt the wind go out of my lungs with the attack mode he used to get that knot to tap out. After twenty minutes he asked if I felt better and I said "Yes" through the tears. I stood up and he had to catch me because I almost went to my knees from the shear trauma of being beat up from the neck to shoulder area. And I paid him.

A day later the knot came back. Damnit! I have to admit the cortisone shot being administered by some shady underground, fight-club, nefarious means was very inviting to me. But I was given muscle relaxers by my own doctor the first time I saw him and within three days, the knot had relented and now after five days it's gone. Or is in hiding for now. I'll always remember my very first massage for possibly all the wrong reasons. I did feel better for a few hours that day, but also felt the need to shower away the shame and tears as well... several times.

What were we talking about again.... I forgot.
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« Reply #259 on: May 31, 2019, 03:02:00 pm »
Correa addresses injury on wife’s YouTube channel:

https://youtu.be/tVKLVmv8RZY

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« Reply #260 on: May 31, 2019, 03:16:41 pm »
... Alcohol may have been involved.
Before, during or after?
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« Reply #261 on: May 31, 2019, 03:30:45 pm »
Yes.
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« Reply #262 on: May 31, 2019, 04:09:56 pm »
Correa addresses injury on wife’s YouTube channel:

https://youtu.be/tVKLVmv8RZY
He may need other tests. If his bones are that brittle, there may be other issues.
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« Reply #263 on: May 31, 2019, 04:34:18 pm »
alcohol involvement does not always lead to a happy ending 
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« Reply #264 on: May 31, 2019, 05:02:59 pm »
Correa addresses injury on wife’s YouTube channel:

https://youtu.be/tVKLVmv8RZY

Thanks for sharing.

What a crazy situation.

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« Reply #265 on: June 01, 2019, 03:43:09 am »
I was just perusing the injury list and it is sobering:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/fantasy/injuries/#team117

How injured is Altuve? He hasn't been himself as a player all season even when he wasn't injured. What level of play will he have when he returns?

Springer is listed with a "Grade 2" hamstring pull. I'm not an expert, but when they give it a grade that can't be good. We may not see George until after the ASB. Correa was having great year before he was injured and we will be lucky to see him before the ASB, and more likely in August.

I think every win between now and the ASB will be difficult and precious. It's possible the Astros could be challenged for the division even though that seems unlikely now. If, however, they can win enough until the team gets back to full strength around mid to late August, they will be set for a good playoff run.
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« Reply #266 on: June 01, 2019, 07:16:36 am »

I think every win between now and the ASB will be difficult and precious. It's possible the Astros could be challenged for the division even though that seems unlikely now. If, however, they can win enough until the team gets back to full strength around mid to late August, they will be set for a good playoff run.

Oakland got to 6.5 games back last week.   This series is big. 

Like you said,  every win the Hospital Ship Astros get is precious.

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« Reply #267 on: June 01, 2019, 08:37:12 am »
Springer’s is encouraging.
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« Reply #268 on: June 03, 2019, 12:41:36 pm »
Springer’s is encouraging.

Klay Thompson has a hamstring injury and might play Wednesday, how do they do that?

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« Reply #269 on: June 03, 2019, 12:48:36 pm »
Klay Thompson has a hamstring injury and might play Wednesday, how do they do that?
The NBA Finals and baseball in May/June are not the same thing. If it was October then a hammy might not keep you out but during the season there isn't much reason to rush back

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« Reply #270 on: June 03, 2019, 01:34:01 pm »
The NBA Finals and baseball in May/June are not the same thing. If it was October then a hammy might not keep you out but during the season there isn't much reason to rush back

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Lest we not forget that a busted knee - so busted, in fact, that it underwent surgery the very day after the Astros' postseason elimination - kept Altuve out for a portion of the regular season but not the ALDS/ALCS.

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« Reply #271 on: June 03, 2019, 02:30:19 pm »
Lest we not forget that a busted knee - so busted, in fact, that it underwent surgery the very day after the Astros' postseason elimination - kept Altuve out for a portion of the regular season but not the ALDS/ALCS.

Altuve's knee
Correa's back
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« Reply #272 on: June 04, 2019, 02:50:41 pm »
Hinch during his weekly spot on MLB Radio today had some encouraging news about Altuve. He said Jose’s workout yesterday was the best workout he has had since he had knee surgery. He took BP in the cage and then asked to move to the field which they let him do. Hinch said that for the first time Altuve is able to put the proper weight on his right leg when he swings, which he hasn’t been able to do since the surgery. Hence the poor offensive numbers to start the year. He did say Altuve is sore but that “he’s sore in the right places.” They May let him do even more today if he is fine when they get to the park. Don’t expect him back however until sometime AFTER the next home stand. AJ sounded like best case scenario could be a rehab assignment after that home stand.

He also mentioned Springer. Said George is doing fine but they will error on side of caution. They will hold him back and extra game or three for sure rather than cutting it short to get him on the field. He is also taking BP and doing activities.

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« Reply #273 on: June 04, 2019, 03:09:23 pm »
No news on McHugh or Smith?
Rogers on the 25 man roster demonstrates the non-existent pitching depth in the organization  Hinch won't him Rogers in a game that is in doubt and apparently there is no one at AAA that is a better choice.
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« Reply #274 on: June 04, 2019, 04:03:33 pm »
Hinch during his weekly spot on MLB Radio today had some encouraging news about Altuve. He said Jose’s workout yesterday was the best workout he has had since he had knee surgery. He took BP in the cage and then asked to move to the field which they let him do. Hinch said that for the first time Altuve is able to put the proper weight on his right leg when he swings, which he hasn’t been able to do since the surgery. Hence the poor offensive numbers to start the year. He did say Altuve is sore but that “he’s sore in the right places.” They May let him do even more today if he is fine when they get to the park. Don’t expect him back however until sometime AFTER the next home stand. AJ sounded like best case scenario could be a rehab assignment after that home stand.

He also mentioned Springer. Said George is doing fine but they will error on side of caution. They will hold him back and extra game or three for sure rather than cutting it short to get him on the field. He is also taking BP and doing activities.

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« Reply #275 on: June 04, 2019, 04:19:10 pm »
Nothing about Correa either. I have no inside info, but I can make an informed inference: the .org is very pissed.
They did ask him about Correa, but AJ didn’t say anything more than what we already know.

They didn’t ask him about McHugh or Smith.

They did ask about Martin and his struggles. AJ’s reply was what you would expect regarding Corbin’s control. He lamented about the fact that Martin doesn’t seem to attack hitters like they want him to. I got no hint of what they plan to do with him based off what AJ said.

One more thing, they asked about Straw and his speed, and it is clear AJ loves him. I have a feeling that if AJ has a say in it, Straw ain’t going anywhere.


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« Reply #276 on: June 04, 2019, 04:22:20 pm »
Thanks for the info, TP21. I guess I need to figure out when those MLB radio spots are.

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« Reply #277 on: June 04, 2019, 04:23:04 pm »
Nothing about Correa either. I have no inside info, but I can make an informed inference: the .org is very pissed.

Maybe, with Correa's injury being the most recent, they have nothing new to report?

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« Reply #278 on: June 04, 2019, 04:31:33 pm »
Thanks for the info, TP21. I guess I need to figure out when those MLB radio spots are.
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« Reply #279 on: June 04, 2019, 11:12:27 pm »
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« Reply #280 on: June 07, 2019, 03:26:25 pm »
Mitch Haniger to the IL with a ruptured testicle. That sounds awful.

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« Reply #281 on: June 07, 2019, 03:30:53 pm »
Mitch Haniger to the IL with a ruptured testicle. That sounds awful.

I hope that wasn't from a massage recommendation from Correa.
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« Reply #282 on: June 07, 2019, 04:27:15 pm »
Mitch Haniger to the IL with a ruptured testicle. That sounds awful.
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« Reply #283 on: June 07, 2019, 04:39:56 pm »
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Couldn’t they just say “unspecified groin injury?” In the same way we didn’t need to know about Matsui’s anal fissures?


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« Reply #287 on: June 07, 2019, 10:39:18 pm »
I feel bad for Haniger because I know what testicular discomfort feels like.  But how the fuck did he injure it in CF?
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« Reply #288 on: June 08, 2019, 12:07:33 am »
I feel bad for Haniger because I know what testicular discomfort feels like.  But how the fuck did he injure it in CF?

He swung through a pitch in the 3rd or the 6th (not sure which but I think it was the 3rd) from verlander that went straight into his groin. He went to a knee. Not sure how he stayed in to finish the at bat much less take the field afterward. He didn’t come out until the 7th.

I saw the play and I’m not sure if he turned into the pitch or actually fouled it, but it was a direct hit.

http://sportspressnw.com/2243431/2019/haniger-feels-something-worse-than-ms-season
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« Reply #289 on: June 08, 2019, 09:32:06 am »
He swung through a pitch in the 3rd or the 6th (not sure which but I think it was the 3rd) from verlander that went straight into his groin. He went to a knee. Not sure how he stayed in to finish the at bat much less take the field afterward. He didn’t come out until the 7th.

I saw the play and I’m not sure if he turned into the pitch or actually fouled it, but it was a direct hit.

http://sportspressnw.com/2243431/2019/haniger-feels-something-worse-than-ms-season

I still have sympathy for him, but a little less.  He obviously was not wearing a cup. Dumbass. 
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« Reply #290 on: June 08, 2019, 11:01:39 am »
I wonder if Colin Moran wished he had a cup on his face that one time he fouled the ball off of it.
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« Reply #291 on: June 08, 2019, 01:46:45 pm »
I wonder if Colin Moran wished he had a cup on his face that one time he fouled the ball off of it.

I don't recall.  Did he have a face guard?
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« Reply #292 on: June 08, 2019, 01:57:07 pm »
I don't recall.  Did he have a face guard?

He did not, but it would not have helped anyway.  The ball hit him on the opposite side of his face. 

BTW, Moran is having a nice year with the Pirates... .279, 8 HR and 32 RBI so far...
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« Reply #293 on: June 08, 2019, 02:07:19 pm »
He did not, but it would not have helped anyway.  The ball hit him on the opposite side of his face. 

BTW, Moran is having a nice year with the Pirates... .279, 8 HR and 32 RBI so far...
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« Reply #294 on: June 08, 2019, 04:05:53 pm »
He did not, but it would not have helped anyway.  The ball hit him on the opposite side of his face. 

BTW, Moran is having a nice year with the Pirates... .279, 8 HR and 32 RBI so far...

Good to hear, Moran's success after such a severe injury.

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« Reply #295 on: June 09, 2019, 12:43:27 pm »
FYI, on radio this morning with Bowden and Duquette, Luhnow says Altuve should be back before Springer and Diaz. Like we’ve read/heard elsewhere, looks like rehab assignments could be forthcoming before the end of this homestand.

Update: Luhnow just said on pregame show that Diaz felt something running prior to today’s game. That has probably set him back a little.

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« Reply #297 on: June 14, 2019, 02:57:20 pm »
Altuve and McHugh start rehab assignments in RR this evening.
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« Reply #298 on: June 17, 2019, 10:52:19 pm »
Check out Altuve's gait on this 'triple'.

https://twitter.com/RRExpress/status/1140798385387114496?s=09

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« Reply #299 on: June 17, 2019, 10:57:55 pm »
Check out Altuve's gait on this 'triple'.

https://twitter.com/RRExpress/status/1140798385387114496?s=09
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« Reply #300 on: June 18, 2019, 06:51:14 am »
Saw that earlier. Not exactly promising running there. But maybe just wasn't busting it, idk

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« Reply #301 on: June 18, 2019, 07:52:09 am »
He was not running. Thought it was routine out.
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« Reply #302 on: June 18, 2019, 08:56:22 am »
He was not running. Thought it was routine out.

I think the bigger concern is his running from 2nd to 3rd and the way he came up from the slide.  None of that looked right.
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« Reply #303 on: June 18, 2019, 11:46:12 am »
Hinch was just on radio. Said Altuve is on his way to Cincinnati as we speak. He could be activated tomorrow.

AJ said Springer is going to run the bases in about an hour. If all is good he is probably headed out for rehab assignment. Could see him next week.

McHugh gonna throw one more time in minors.

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« Reply #304 on: June 18, 2019, 12:09:04 pm »
Thanks for the update.  Nothing on the massage victim?

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« Reply #306 on: June 18, 2019, 01:02:07 pm »
Thanks for the update.  Nothing on the massage victim?
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No, CC wasn’t discussed. Unless they can mend bones with a potion a la Harry Potter to speed up the healing process, I’m guessing we are about 2 weeks away from hearing how close he is.


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McHugh's rehab work has yielded 3 innings, 3 hits, 3 runs, 2 BBs, 3SOs. Not dominating AAA or AA.
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« Reply #309 on: June 18, 2019, 01:47:11 pm »
McHugh's rehab work has yielded 3 innings, 3 hits, 3 runs, 2 BBs, 3SOs. Not dominating AAA or AA.

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It's all about reps, not outs or score.

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« Reply #311 on: June 18, 2019, 03:10:45 pm »
It's all about reps, not outs or score.

There's a highlight of one of his strikeouts last night.  Filthy curve ball for strike three.  Looked like pre-injury quality to me.
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« Reply #312 on: June 18, 2019, 03:59:23 pm »
There's a highlight of one of his strikeouts last night.  Filthy curve ball for strike three.  Looked like pre-injury quality to me.

 Best news I’ve heard all day. The week will be capped off well if I hear he’s going to the pen (I love pen McHugh) and Framber is staying in the rotation.
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« Reply #313 on: June 18, 2019, 04:19:41 pm »
Best news I’ve heard all day. The week will be capped off well if I hear he’s going to the pen (I love pen McHugh) and Framber is staying in the rotation.

https://twitter.com/cchooks/status/1140791996006785027
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« Reply #314 on: June 18, 2019, 05:05:43 pm »
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« Reply #316 on: June 18, 2019, 05:51:01 pm »
so the beginning of the end for who and who  will stay

Altuve for Mayfield, right?

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« Reply #317 on: June 18, 2019, 06:10:03 pm »
Altuve for Mayfield, right?

I would imagine so. Keeps the most options open, although it pretty much means full-time SS for Bregman (I don't really think Straw is viable there except in short stretches).
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« Reply #318 on: June 18, 2019, 06:13:35 pm »
Best news I’ve heard all day. The week will be capped off well if I hear he’s going to the pen (I love pen McHugh) and Framber is staying in the rotation.

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« Reply #319 on: June 18, 2019, 06:17:15 pm »
I would imagine so. Keeps the most options open, although it pretty much means full-time SS for Bregman (I don't really think Straw is viable there except in short stretches).

Radical thought: Altuve comes back, Tyler White is gone. Mayfield stays because you want to ensure Altuve gets time at DH some times. Although Kemp has been serviceable at second base, I'd like for them to keep Mayfield for short and second for just a little while longer.

Means going ahead and pulling the rip cord on White and Yuli goes back to first for a good stretch.

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« Reply #320 on: June 18, 2019, 06:22:30 pm »
Altuve for Mayfield, right?
My bet would be Straw. I think Mayfield stays until Diaz is back. If Mayfield goes then you lack good options at 3rd and SS behind the starters. Kemp can do most of what Straw does, just with less speed

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« Reply #321 on: June 18, 2019, 06:23:07 pm »
Radical thought: Altuve comes back, Tyler White is gone. Mayfield stays because you want to ensure Altuve gets time at DH some times. Although Kemp has been serviceable at second base, I'd like for them to keep Mayfield for short and second for just a little while longer.

Means going ahead and pulling the rip cord on White and Yuli goes back to first for a good stretch.

Yeah, maybe they've reached the end of the road with White. But I still suspect that Luhnow will try to package him in a trade rather than just give him up for absolutely nothing. Not that he has much leverage.
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« Reply #322 on: June 18, 2019, 06:23:28 pm »
Radical thought: Altuve comes back, Tyler White is gone. Mayfield stays because you want to ensure Altuve gets time at DH some times. Although Kemp has been serviceable at second base, I'd like for them to keep Mayfield for short and second for just a little while longer.

Means going ahead and pulling the rip cord on White and Yuli goes back to first for a good stretch.
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« Reply #323 on: June 18, 2019, 06:28:54 pm »
I think Spinger coming back will be what makes White run out of rope

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Don't disagree with this, my thought was a bit radical. But I also agree that you cannot afford to lose Mayfield right now with no Correa and Altuve still working his way to 100%. So your idea that it might be Straw is more possible than White, but I'd like them to go ahead and expose The Shark to waivers. It just may be that he'll make it through and choose to accept the assignment to Round Rock to get his mojo back.... because right now, he doesn't have any.

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« Reply #324 on: June 18, 2019, 06:50:45 pm »
You're all crazy. If Alvarez is doing fine when either Correa or Diaz return (whoever is last) then White will go.  Or after both Correa and Diaz return and Alvarez is doing poorly then Alvarez goes down.
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« Reply #325 on: June 18, 2019, 07:30:03 pm »
You're all crazy. If Alvarez is doing fine when either Correa or Diaz return (whoever is last) then White will go.  Or after both Correa and Diaz return and Alvarez is doing poorly then Alvarez goes down.

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But somebody has to go tomorrow. Who's that going to be?

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« Reply #327 on: June 19, 2019, 12:03:11 am »
Someone with options.
I guess it will be Myles Straw, unless they elect to go back to twelve pitchers, then it might be Perez.
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« Reply #328 on: June 19, 2019, 08:19:25 am »
Hopefully the last week is an indication that White is starting to go on one of his patented (if infrequent) tears which will serve to increase his trade value.
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« Reply #329 on: June 19, 2019, 08:45:49 am »
Hopefully the last week is an indication that White is starting to go on one of his patented (if infrequent) tears which will serve to increase his trade value.

That would be nice, but I suspect the days of being able to hoodwink another GM with a hot streak and a story are over.

Although this reminds me of one of my all-time favorite trade stories. Some Cubs exec "happened" to be sitting next to George Steinbrenner on a flight or at a dinner or something, and just "happened" to mention the name of some prospect (George Frazier, in my memory, but see below) and how he's lighting things up. Then he clams up and won't talk about him anymore. Before you know it, the Yankees are on the phone with the Cubs trying to put together a trade for Frazier and wind up wildly over-paying, and the Cubs walk away rubbing their hands like Mr. Burns.

Sadly, after checking his transaction history on baseball-reference.com, it seems that George Frazier couldn't possibly have been the player involved (if the story is even true). He was involved in trades involving the Cubs and separate trades involving the Yankees, but never a trade between those two clubs. Has anybody else ever heard this story? Do you remember the player(s) involved?
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« Reply #330 on: June 19, 2019, 09:15:18 am »
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« Reply #331 on: June 19, 2019, 10:06:58 am »
If you had your money on Perez being sent down collect your winnings.

The Astros don't play more than 6 consecutive games between now and the ASB.  Going with 12 pitchers makes some sense.
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« Reply #332 on: June 19, 2019, 10:33:12 am »
There is an article on MLB network about Altuve being re-activated. In the article the subject of the video that was posted on here with Altuve legging out the triple was discussed. It was addressed by Jose and AJ and it appeared each was kind of surprised at the way Altuve was running in the video. I guess the medical staff would not have cleared him if he wasn’t 100% healthy, but I will not feel completely comfortable until I see him hitting like the old Jose.




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« Reply #333 on: June 19, 2019, 10:42:04 am »
There is an article on MLB network about Altuve being re-activated. In the article the subject of the video that was posted on here with Altuve legging out the triple was discussed. It was addressed by Jose and AJ and it appeared each was kind of surprised at the way Altuve was running in the video. I guess the medical staff would not have cleared him if he wasn’t 100% healthy, but I will not feel completely comfortable until I see him hitting like the old Jose.




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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #334 on: June 19, 2019, 10:44:39 am »
There is an article on MLB network about Altuve being re-activated. In the article the subject of the video that was posted on here with Altuve legging out the triple was discussed. It was addressed by Jose and AJ and it appeared each was kind of surprised at the way Altuve was running in the video. I guess the medical staff would not have cleared him if he wasn’t 100% healthy, but I will not feel completely comfortable until I see him hitting like the old Jose.




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I was at the game yesterday. Altuve hit about 3 homers to RCF during batting practice. I know it was GABallpark but ball was jumping off his bat.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #335 on: June 19, 2019, 01:23:10 pm »
Hopefully the last week is an indication that White is starting to go on one of his patented (if infrequent) tears which will serve to increase his trade value.

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Last 7 Games:  BA:.316 | OBP:.480 | SLG:.526 | OPS:1.006  | SO: 5 | BB: 6
Last 15 Games: BA: .273 |   OBP:.421 | SLG:.455 | OPS: .876 | SO: 14 | BB: 12
Last 30 Games: BA: .242 | OBP:.366 | SLG:.409 | OPS:.775 | SO: 21 | BB: 14
Season: BA: 235 | OBP:.343 | SLG:.342 | OPS:.685 | SO:  54 | BB: 26

He's put together a good week's worth of work.  His slugging numbers are up and so is his on-base percentage. But his walks to strikeout ratio remains about the same (his real contrinution is he's either going to walk or strikeout and on occasion he'll get a hit or two but not consistently). So he's going to strikeout at about the same clip as his three month average tells you. On average, he's basically striking out about 20 times per month. He is trending to about 110 to 120 strikeouts for the season. Last season, in 66 games he struck out 49 times. He's played in 50 games this season and has 54 strikeouts. Pretty much tells you he's at best a bench player and never a starter. He just doesn't drive in runs enough to justify a starting job. The occasional good week from him might be overlooked on a team with all the other hitters playing but not on a team that needs production from his position. The team is carrying him for now and that is costing them. Oh, by the way if you look at Yuli's stats, he does much better work than White including his last 7 days where he's been putting up better numbers. He strikes out about half the amount of time as White, so his season average in strikeouts is around 60 or so. Less strikeouts means he puts the ball in play a lot more. He doesn't walk as much as White though, but walks don't generally drive in runs and that is what you want from the 1st baseman/DH type.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #336 on: June 19, 2019, 01:33:40 pm »
BTW if you want to see who is really struggling hitting a bseball right now, take a look at Jake Marisnick's stats. It is downright ugly. Mendoza would be gloating about how much better he was than Jake. Face it, Jake is a huge drop-off from George Springer. I mean a Grand Canyon drop in production. Pitchers appreciate his defense, but during this stretch the pitching has had little margin for error. A two run lead by the opposition seems like a 10 run deficit sometimes. Plus you have pitchers trying to do too much to keep the other team at bay and wind up making mistakes in the strikezone. A lot of homeruns by the opposition lately and that is entirely trying to do too much to challenge the other team's hitters because you cannot afford to pitch corners with the lack of production from your own team.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #337 on: June 19, 2019, 01:59:56 pm »
BTW if you want to see who is really struggling hitting a bseball right now, take a look at Jake Marisnick's stats. It is downright ugly. Mendoza would be gloating about how much better he was than Jake. Face it, Jake is a huge drop-off from George Springer. I mean a Grand Canyon drop in production. Pitchers appreciate his defense, but during this stretch the pitching has had little margin for error. A two run lead by the opposition seems like a 10 run deficit sometimes. Plus you have pitchers trying to do too much to keep the other team at bay and wind up making mistakes in the strikezone. A lot of homeruns by the opposition lately and that is entirely trying to do too much to challenge the other team's hitters because you cannot afford to pitch corners with the lack of production from your own team.

Weird take. Springer and Marisnik has played in the same outfield a ton this season before Springer got hurt. I don't think any Astro is expecting Marisnik to replace Springer.

The lack of offensive output from the guys that are supposed to be good hitters and are sucking hind tit (or are sitting on the IL not producing at all) are much more the culprit than Marisnik falling off.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #338 on: June 19, 2019, 02:03:57 pm »
Weird take. Springer and Marisnik has played in the same outfield a ton this season before Springer got hurt. I don't think any Astro is expecting Marisnik to replace Springer.

The lack of offensive output from the guys that are supposed to be good hitters and are sucking hind tit (or are sitting on the IL not producing at all) are much more the culprit than Marisnik falling off.

Jake is not a starter, he is a late inning replacement. Because of the injuries, he's now asked to play more and that is exposing his lack of production. Makes others have to do more in this lineup. So basically, yeah, he's not producing as a starter because he's basically not a starter and never will be. So yes, others being injured means he gets to play and that means he's producing well below Mendoza. I would rather see Straw play more than Jake for that matter. Straw is the bench player, Marisnick the starter. Should be the other way around.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #339 on: June 19, 2019, 02:25:25 pm »
Jake is not a starter, he is a late inning replacement. Because of the injuries, he's now asked to play more and that is exposing his lack of production. Makes others have to do more in this lineup. So basically, yeah, he's not producing as a starter because he's basically not a starter and never will be. So yes, others being injured means he gets to play and that means he's producing well below Mendoza. I would rather see Straw play more than Jake for that matter. Straw is the bench player, Marisnick the starter. Should be the other way around.

Some of us get it, you don't like Marisnick.  I don't feel as confident as you do that Straw would be a bigger upgrade.  But, that's what's great about this place, we can disagree.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #340 on: June 19, 2019, 02:26:27 pm »
Some of us get it, you don't like Marisnick.  I don't feel as confident as you do that Straw would be a bigger upgrade.  But, that's what's great about this place, we can disagree.

No, you don't get it. I don't dislike Marisnick at all.

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #341 on: June 19, 2019, 02:36:22 pm »
No, you don't get it. I don't dislike Marisnick at all.

You're just mistakenly focusing this team's struggles on him, that's all.
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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #342 on: June 19, 2019, 02:50:32 pm »
You're just mistakenly focusing this team's struggles on him, that's all.

Not at all. Never said that. I said he's deep in the mire and doesn't belong in the starting lineup. Take a look at his stats and if you're going to say White doesn't belong in the starting lineup, you have to say that also applies to Marisnick. And Garret Stubbs. But right now, you have to use bench players like Marisnick to start and that is not what they bring to the club. They are bench players. Period. It's asking a lot of a good defensive late inning replacement to be a starter and produce. Marisnick is basically showing you that it is.

Nothing in what I'm saying is that I hate Marisnick. Or even White for that matter. It is what it is and I can't make either of them starters just by myopically deciding I "like" or "dislike" either one. It's about how they fit on the team not about "liking".

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Re: Aches and Pains (2019)
« Reply #343 on: June 19, 2019, 03:13:35 pm »
Not at all. Never said that. I said he's deep in the mire and doesn't belong in the starting lineup. Take a look at his stats and if you'r