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« on: January 09, 2019, 02:50:16 pm »
I'll expand this as time/interest warrants and clubs issue more press releases as to 2019 staffing...

Minor Leagues
Adam Everett--infield coordinator (Braves)
Mike Brumley--hitting coordinator (Braves)
Doug Mansolino--field coordinator (Braves)
Dave Wallace--director of pitching (Braves)
Greg Gross--hitting coach @ AAA Reno (D-Backs)
Doug Drabek--pitching coach @ AA Jackson (D-Backs)
Franklin Stubbs--hitting coach @ short-season Hillsboro (D-Backs)
Randy Knorr--manager @ AAA Fresno (Nats)
Danny Darwin--pitching coach @ AA Chattanooga (Reds)
Daryle Ward--hitting coach @ AA Chattanooga (Reds)
Ricky Gutierrez--manager @ hi-A Daytona (Reds)
Doug Henry--pitching coach @ AA Northwest Arkansas (Royals)
Brooks Conrad--manager @ low-A Lexington (Royals)
Harry Spilman--special ass't to player development (Royals)
Leon Roberts--senior hitting advisor (Royals)

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Re: Ex-Astros News 2019
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2019, 03:47:07 pm »
First time hearing of the (almost) football career of former Astros' OF Leon Roberts...

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I tried out for the Houston Oilers in '77 as an end/punter and had their team made. There was really nobody in the way of two-sport stars back then. Dave DeBusschere did it a little bit. Pitched for the White Sox and played for the Pistons. Gene Conley pitched with the Red Sox and played basketball for the Celtics. I was going to play (football) only on Sundays and then when the baseball season was over play full time. We had it all set up and then the (Astros') front office found out about it and upped my salary to buy me out of it.

That Astros' FO then traded him in December to the Mariners.

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Re: Ex-Astros News 2019
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2019, 06:01:33 pm »
I'll expand this as time/interest warrants and clubs issue more press releases as to 2019 staffing...

Minor Leagues
Adam Everett--infield coordinator (Braves)
Mike Brumley--hitting coordinator (Braves)
Doug Mansolino--field coordinator (Braves)
Dave Wallace--director of pitching (Braves)
Greg Gross--hitting coach @ AAA Reno (D-Backs)
Doug Drabek--pitching coach @ AA Jackson (D-Backs)
Franklin Stubbs--hitting coach @ short-season Hillsboro (D-Backs)
Randy Knorr--manager @ AAA Fresno (Nats)
Danny Darwin--pitching coach @ AA Chattanooga (Reds)
Daryle Ward--hitting coach @ AA Chattanooga (Reds)
Ricky Gutierrez--manager @ hi-A Daytona (Reds)
Doug Henry--pitching coach @ AA Northwest Arkansas (Royals)
Brooks Conrad--manager @ low-A Lexington (Royals)
Harry Spilman--special ass't to player development (Royals)
Leon Roberts--senior hitting advisor (Royals)

Good to know their lives continued after ML baseball. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2019, 07:02:28 pm »

Daryle Ward--hitting coach @ AA Chattanooga (Reds)


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Re: Ex-Astros News 2019
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2019, 08:50:41 pm »
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Since they coach on the same team, do you think Daryle Ward and Danny Darwin go out for beers together? I would like to believe that they do.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2019, 09:48:58 am »
Does Ensberg not count as an ex-Astro?
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2019, 10:01:41 am »
Does Ensberg not count as an ex-Astro?

Has he landed a coaching job for 2019 yet?  He won't be back with the Astros.

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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2019, 10:19:34 am »
Oops, missed that
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2019, 10:43:33 am »
Has he landed a coaching job for 2019 yet?  He won't be back with the Astros.

Why is that?

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2019, 11:09:28 am »

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2019, 11:25:52 am »
Does Ensberg not count as an ex-Astro?
Double counts, actually.
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2019, 06:03:26 pm »
Added Toronto, San Diego, Boston and Detroit...

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Casey Candaele--manager at short season Vancouver/skill development coordinator (Blue Jays)
Adam Everett--infield coordinator (Braves)
Mike Brumley--hitting coordinator (Braves)
Doug Mansolino--field coordinator (Braves)
Dave Wallace--director of pitching (Braves)
Greg Gross--hitting coach @ AAA Reno (D-Backs)
Doug Drabek--pitching coach @ AA Jackson (D-Backs)
Franklin Stubbs--hitting coach @ short-season Hillsboro (D-Backs)
Randy Knorr--manager @ AAA Fresno (Nats)
Jimmy Jones--pitching coach @ AA Amarillo (Padres)
Burt Hooton--pitching coach @ low-A Fort Wayne (Padres)
John Halama--pitching coach @ short-season Peoria (Padres
Jonathan Meyer--fielding coach @ short-season Peoria (Padres)

Danny Darwin--pitching coach @ AA Chattanooga (Reds)
Daryle Ward--hitting coach @ AA Chattanooga (Reds)
Ricky Gutierrez--manager @ hi-A Daytona (Reds)
Rich Gedman--hitting coach @ AAA Pawtucket (Red Sox)
Doug Henry--pitching coach @ AA Northwest Arkansas (Royals)
Brooks Conrad--manager @ low-A Lexington (Royals)
Harry Spilman--special ass't to player development (Royals)
Leon Roberts--senior hitting advisor (Royals)
Willie Blair--pitching coach @ low-A West Michigan (Tigers)
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2019, 12:27:41 am »
Anyone spot Billy Spiers on the Clemson sideline this season?

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Yes, he now has 2 rings. And the ex-punter is the proud papa of a punter. No, Will is not a 2-sport athlete like the old man. But nephew Carson does play on the Clemson baseball squad and as a soph reliever last year allowed just 22 hits in 48 IP. Three generations of Spiers have played baseball at the school.


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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2019, 08:25:30 am »
(For those who don't follow college football or read the B&Q thread)

Yes, he now has 2 rings. And the ex-punter is the proud papa of a punter. No, Will is not a 2-sport athlete like the old man. But nephew Carson does play on the Clemson baseball squad and as a soph reliever last year allowed just 22 hits in 48 IP. Three generations of Spiers have played baseball at the school.

I never cease to be amazed at multi-sport college or professional athletes. It's hard enough to play one sport at that level. I'm happy for the Spiers clan. Coach Swinney has an amazing program.
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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2019, 12:01:21 pm »
I never cease to be amazed at multi-sport college or professional athletes. It's hard enough to play one sport at that level. I'm happy for the Spiers clan. Coach Swinney has an amazing program.

I think Kyler Murray’s a huge prick, but his athletic ability amazes me.


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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2019, 12:06:24 pm »
I think Kyler Murray’s a huge prick, but his athletic ability amazes me.


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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2019, 01:18:48 pm »
I think Kyler Murray’s a huge prick, but his athletic ability amazes me.

It would be interesting to see him humiliated by professional curve balls. It would also be interesting to seem him not humiliated by professional curve balls.
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2019, 04:55:40 pm »
Speaking of the kid...

Mike Leslie @MikeLeslieWFAA 44 minutes ago
According to a source close to the situation, Kyler Murray’s number is $15M. He wants big time money to stick with baseball, otherwise he will enter the NFL draft tomorrow. The A’s are doing everything they can, sending their top brass, led by Billy Beane, to meet with him.


His agent Scott Boras is also in the meeting.  If the A's do pay him add'l money, that immediately raises the question as to how that wouldn't be a violation of the bonus pool system for draft picks.

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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2019, 08:20:33 pm »
Speaking of the kid...

Mike Leslie @MikeLeslieWFAA 44 minutes ago
According to a source close to the situation, Kyler Murray’s number is $15M. He wants big time money to stick with baseball, otherwise he will enter the NFL draft tomorrow. The A’s are doing everything they can, sending their top brass, led by Billy Beane, to meet with him.


His agent Scott Boras is also in the meeting.  If the A's do pay him add'l money, that immediately raises the question as to how that wouldn't be a violation of the bonus pool system for draft picks.

Basically MLB is looking the other way, because they want the big PR win of the dual sport star choosing baseball.


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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2019, 08:38:53 pm »
I’ve only seen him a few times in baseball and was surprised he was taken that high but the A’s are no dummies. 15 million seems highly unlikely, almost like he’s trying to provide cover for leaving or going back on a promise he presumably gave them.

I also doubt he’s NFL quality mainly due to size, but the game is changing and he does have a unique skill set.

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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2019, 11:10:19 pm »
I’ve only seen him a few times in baseball and was surprised he was taken that high but the A’s are no dummies. 15 million seems highly unlikely, almost like he’s trying to provide cover for leaving or going back on a promise he presumably gave them.

I also doubt he’s NFL quality mainly due to size, but the game is changing and he does have a unique skill set.

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If you want my honest opinion... and the same of a few of my close HS friends. This guy is trying to get as much cash as possible as insurance. I don’t blame him. He might know that his size and ability is a factor in both sports. Why not try and get as much now as possible? If something works out, great, everybody is happy. If not... millions of dollars can be a nice consolation.

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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2019, 08:05:07 am »
Basically MLB is looking the other way, because they want the big PR win of the dual sport star choosing baseball.


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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2019, 09:26:58 am »
Somebody is going to have to explain this to me, because I don't get it:

MLB rules prohibit players from signing major league contracts, which place players on the 40-man roster, out of the draft. Teams are not allowed to sign amateur players to minor league deals, then immediately give them major league deals, because the latter would be an inducement to sign and a circumvention of the league's finite draft pools. In Murray's case, because he signed a minor league deal, and because his performance at Oklahoma changed the circumstances of his baseball career, Oakland would be within the rules to give Murray a long-term extension if that's what it takes to keep him in baseball, sources tell ESPN.

WTF does this even mean?

From Passan's article:  http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25754391/oakland-athletics-get-ok-mlb-offer-kyler-murray-more-money-stick-baseball
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2019, 09:55:37 am »
Somebody is going to have to explain this to me, because I don't get it:

MLB rules prohibit players from signing major league contracts, which place players on the 40-man roster, out of the draft. Teams are not allowed to sign amateur players to minor league deals, then immediately give them major league deals, because the latter would be an inducement to sign and a circumvention of the league's finite draft pools. In Murray's case, because he signed a minor league deal, and because his performance at Oklahoma changed the circumstances of his baseball career, Oakland would be within the rules to give Murray a long-term extension if that's what it takes to keep him in baseball, sources tell ESPN.

WTF does this even mean?

From Passan's article:  http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25754391/oakland-athletics-get-ok-mlb-offer-kyler-murray-more-money-stick-baseball
I don’t know why his performance at Oklahoma would have any impact on the rules of the CBA so I won’t even address that part of what Passen wrote in his article. I will say that based on what I’ve heard on MLB Radio, it sounds to me like since he signed his contract a year ago, they can basically go back and renegotiate and give him more money and place him on the 40 man roster. Since at this point it won’t TECHNICALLY be his first contract, I think under the rules of the CBA it is allowed. At least that is the impression I get.

Nate or Hawk can probably clear it up.


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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2019, 10:09:44 am »
Nate or Hawk can probably clear it up.

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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2019, 12:18:53 pm »
The "Kyler Murray" exception now gives rise to "wink and a nod" type discussions  at the time a player signs after being drafted. The initial bonus is crafted to fall within the restrictions of the bonus pool arrangement. But the player and club also have discussions at that time about further compensation and promises to sign him to a major league contract (prohibited under current rules). Nothing is reduced to writing but is merely a handshake deal.  And if you have your doubts about the clubs following thru on handshake deals note that those occur in the international area all the time. It's how a 14-year old Dominican kid gets taken off the market even though he's not eligible to sign for two more years.

Clubs (and the player) will manufacture excuses as why add'l monies are needed when the time comes. Probably the most likely would be the player claims (with the club going along with the subterfuge) he's going to walk away from baseball if he doesn't get more money. MLB will investigate but probably will have to go along because they created the fucking problem in the first place and absent a smoking gun would likely have to go along with it.

And those handshake deals on the foreign side? Technically not allowed under the rules but MLB has never been able to do anything about it.
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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2019, 12:37:21 pm »
Looks like Murray signed his draft deal in June, according to the rules when is the earliest he can sign a MLB contract?  I would think it's any time after his draft season ends?
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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2019, 12:51:11 pm »
Looks like Murray signed his draft deal in June, according to the rules when is the earliest he can sign a MLB contract?  I would think it's any time after his draft season ends?

You mean the draft season he spent working out to play football and didn't play 1 inning of baseball? What circumstances can you point to that he deserved to receive such a deal purely in baseball terms? The commissioner's office reviews these contracts and has the power pursuant to the CBA to kill any deal that's an end run around the bonus pool restrictions and other prohibitions that exist. It's a smell test, not a bright line test.
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2019, 12:57:51 pm »
I don't think this is as egregious as you make it sound - his circumstances really did change. He didn't sign the original contract on the expectation of an increase.
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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2019, 01:02:41 pm »
Just end the slotting system already. Let teams pay as much as they’re willing to pay.

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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2019, 01:03:27 pm »
Can signing bonuses be conditioned, either by payout over the years, or requiring payback if the player decides on a new life?  I thought I read that Murray would have to repay his bonus.  That's quite a disincentive, for the average one-sport star?  Also, if Murray decides not to play, I assume he can't come back and play MLB for someone else, correct? 

At any rate, I'm having trouble seeing this as a dangerous precedent.  The first reason is that I don't believe it will actually happen here, as I don't expect the A's to pay.  Secondly, and more importantly, how many draftees have credible leverage to play this game?   I'm trying to think of when this would occur again (predicated on the assumption that the draftee's rights are owned by the signing club).

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« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2019, 01:16:07 pm »
He didn't sign the original contract on the expectation of an increase.

How do you know? Were you a fly on the wall during those negotiations? How many signed players say I'll take your money but then skip my first season? How do you know that when the A's consented to that there wasn't some further discussions about sweeteners in 2019? You can argue the specific circumstances about Murray (and they are compelling) but that's not really the point.  It's what comes AFTER. By creating this exception, creative teams (and agents) now have a loophole they can exploit. And Boras and others WILL exploit it.

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« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2019, 01:34:36 pm »
How bout you limit it to anyone who wins the Heisman Trophy after signing their contract?
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« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2019, 01:35:43 pm »
You mean the draft season he spent working out to play football and didn't play 1 inning of baseball?

The A's knew that was going to happen before they signed him.  I'm not arguing one way or the other, just trying to wrap my head around a rather unique situation.
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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2019, 01:53:12 pm »
The A's knew that was going to happen before they signed him.  I'm not arguing one way or the other, just trying to wrap my head around a rather unique situation.

And let me clarify: I hope 2-sport athletes like Murray DO play baseball. But this is a problem of MLB's making when they put the draft hard caps in place and now foolishly realize their fuck-up and are trying a band-aid approach that is likely to create even more problems.

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« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2019, 02:55:13 pm »
It'll come down to where he's drafted in the NFL.

Baker Mayfield made around $500,000 per game this season.

Dak Prescott (4th round pick,  3rd year) made around $600,000 for the season.

That's all dictated by the CBA.  If Murray is a high first rounder he'll make serious bank quickly, and likely play quickly as well.

(This may be the lone exception where the NFL's CBA compares favorably from a player's perspective to MLB's)


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« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2019, 03:38:58 pm »
It'll come down to where he's drafted in the NFL.

Baker Mayfield made around $500,000 per game this season.

Dak Prescott (4th round pick,  3rd year) made around $600,000 for the season.

That's all dictated by the CBA.  If Murray is a high first rounder he'll make serious bank quickly, and likely play quickly as well.

(This may be the lone exception where the NFL's CBA compares favorably from a player's perspective to MLB's)
Which is also why this is going on now ... NFL teams who want him may need to draft him higher to be able to compete with baseball. Or they might just do the smart thing and pass.  :)
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« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2019, 07:40:59 pm »
If Kyler asks me, I'm going to encourage him to follow his heart and try to balance that with taking as much money as others are willing to give. Otherwise, my opinion, like that of everyone else here, is vaporous.
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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2019, 07:58:42 pm »
Added Seattle...

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Adam Everett--infield coordinator (Braves)
Mike Brumley--hitting coordinator (Braves)
Doug Mansolino--field coordinator (Braves)
Dave Wallace--director of pitching (Braves)
Greg Gross--hitting coach @ AAA Reno (D-Backs)
Doug Drabek--pitching coach @ AA Jackson (D-Backs)
Franklin Stubbs--hitting coach @ short-season Hillsboro (D-Backs)
Pete Harnisch--special assignment pitching coach (Mariners)
Jimmy Van Ostrand--peak performance coach (Mariners)

Randy Knorr--manager @ AAA Fresno (Nats)
Jimmy Jones--pitching coach @ AA Amarillo (Padres)
Burt Hooton--pitching coach @ low-A Fort Wayne (Padres)
John Halama--pitching coach @ short-season Peoria (Padres)
Jonathan Meyer--fielding coach @ short-season Peoria (Padres)
Danny Darwin--pitching coach @ AA Chattanooga (Reds)
Daryle Ward--hitting coach @ AA Chattanooga (Reds)
Ricky Gutierrez--manager @ hi-A Daytona (Reds)
Rich Gedman--hitting coach @ AAA Pawtucket (Red Sox)
Doug Henry--pitching coach @ AA Northwest Arkansas (Royals)
Brooks Conrad--manager @ low-A Lexington (Royals)
Harry Spilman--special ass't to player development (Royals)
Leon Roberts--senior hitting advisor (Royals)
Willie Blair--pitching coach @ low-A West Michigan (Tigers)

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« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2019, 12:01:21 pm »
Not an ex-Astro but anyone know what happened to 3B Hank Blalock? 

Always thought he was gonna be a cannot miss type player. 

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« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2019, 02:59:57 pm »
Not an ex-Astro but anyone know what happened to 3B Hank Blalock? 

Always thought he was gonna be a cannot miss type player.

Injuries,  thoracic outlet surgery.

He was done by 30.

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« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2019, 03:12:01 pm »
Not an ex-Astro but anyone know what happened to 3B Hank Blalock? 

Always thought he was gonna be a cannot miss type player.

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« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2019, 06:41:32 pm »
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« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2019, 02:53:22 am »
I always liked Brocail as pitcher and coach.

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« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2019, 06:02:02 pm »
The BBGs had already retired the name Hank.


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Hank Williams died at 30.

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« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2019, 08:19:21 pm »
Hank Williams died at 30.

Actually, he didn't even make it to 30.
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« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2019, 08:39:57 pm »
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Drifter, can you make folks cry when you play and sing?

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« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2019, 07:13:31 am »
Drifter, can you make folks cry when you play and sing?

He's a complete POS, but that guy wrote a few great songs.

Man, I dug him in the 70's. Since, not so much.
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« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2019, 04:19:12 pm »
Added St. Louis, Tampa Bay (where Ensberg lands a new managerial gig after being fired by the Astros), Pittsburgh and Los Angeles...

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Franklin Stubbs--hitting coach @ short season Hillsboro (D-Backs)
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Jason Bourgeois--coach @ low-A Great Lakes (Dodgers)

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Randy Knorr--manager @ AAA Fresno (Nats)
Jimmy Jones--pitching coach @ AA Amarillo (Padres)
Burt Hooton--pitching coach @ low-A Fort Wayne (Padres)
John Halama--pitching coach @ short season Peoria (Padres)
Jonathan Meyer--fielding coach @ short season Peoria (Padres)
Fernando Nieve--pitching coach @ short season GCL (Pirates)
Quinten McCracken--coach @ AAA Durham (Rays)
Morgan Ensberg--manager @ AA Montgomery (Rays)
Rafael Valenzuela--manager @ short season GCL (Rays)

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Daryle Ward--hitting coach @ AA Chattanooga (Reds)
Ricky Gutierrez--manager @ hi-A Daytona (Reds)
Rich Gedman--hitting coach @ AAA Pawtucket (Red Sox)
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« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2019, 12:38:40 pm »
Man, I dug him in the 70's. Since, not so much.
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« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2019, 03:13:02 pm »
Jody Like a Melody still gives me the occasional goosebump, not ashamed to admit.

I wore that album out - along with Longhaired Redneck - my first couple of years in HS. I still spin them occasionally.
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Drifter, can you make folks cry when you play and sing?

He's a complete POS, but that guy wrote a few great songs.
Back around 1979 or 80, an old friend, Ricky, was on his (first) honeymoon and noticed that David Allen Coe had a room on the same hallway of the hotel. He told his bride about it and a bit later after sharing a several drinks together she told him she wanted an autograph. Ricky staggers down the hall and knocks on the door, DAC answers, "What the fuck do you want." My friend tells him, "Sorry to bother you, I'm in a room down the hall and am a big fan. I'm on my honeymoon and thought it would be cool if I could get an autograph for my wife." DAC gives him a blank look, says nothing, and closes the door.

Since he didn't say anything before he closed the door in my friends face, my drunk friend isn't sure if DAC has gone back in the room to get something to autograph, or what. So Rick knocks on the door again. DAC answers, "Why are you still here?" Before Rick could answer why, boom. DAC hits him with a right hook and slams the door shut. Rick was so startled and freaked out by what had just happened that he just staggers back to his room, only to find that his wife had passed out, leaving him with a good bad-honeymoon story.
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« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2019, 08:46:26 am »
Back around 1979 or 80, an old friend, Ricky, was on his (first) honeymoon and noticed that David Allen Coe had a room on the same hallway of the hotel. He told his bride about it and a bit later after sharing a several drinks together she told him she wanted an autograph. Ricky staggers down the hall and knocks on the door, DAC answers, "What the fuck do you want." My friend tells him, "Sorry to bother you, I'm in a room down the hall and am a big fan. I'm on my honeymoon and thought it would be cool if I could get an autograph for my wife." DAC gives him a blank look, says nothing, and closes the door.

Since he didn't say anything before he closed the door in my friends face, my drunk friend isn't sure if DAC has gone back in the room to get something to autograph, or what. So Rick knocks on the door again. DAC answers, "Why are you still here?" Before Rick could answer why, boom. DAC hits him with a right hook and slams the door shut. Rick was so startled and freaked out by what had just happened that he just staggers back to his room, only to find that his wife had passed out, leaving him with a good bad-honeymoon story.

In the late 90's I went to a DAC concert at a rodeo in Winnie Tx. He was so drunk he fell off his stool several times, blended songs into other songs & just completely missed lyrics. He had a pink, braided goatee...Oh and he brought Pantera on stage with him towards the end for some growling songs that they were famous for. It made for a memorably odd night.

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« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2019, 10:18:51 am »
Added St. Louis, Tampa Bay (where Ensberg lands a new managerial gig after being fired by the Astros), Pittsburgh and Los Angeles...

Good article about Ensberg, new minor league manager for TB.
https://www.fayobserver.com/entertainmentlife/20190119/woodpeckers-75-days-and-counting---ensberg-with-rays-organization
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« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2019, 02:12:21 pm »
Bo Porter joins the commentator team on pre and postgame shows on Nats' TV broadcasts. He's replacing ex-Astro Ray Knight who was fired for some contretemps with a MASN staffer last year. Porter of course spent 2 seasons as 3B coach for Washington before being hired by the Astros.

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« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2019, 10:59:27 am »
Good article about Ensberg, new minor league manager for TB.
https://www.fayobserver.com/entertainmentlife/20190119/woodpeckers-75-days-and-counting---ensberg-with-rays-organization

He was successful on the field in Houston. Wonder what happened.
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« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2019, 11:11:35 am »
Not only him, but a lot of the others. 

Nate, since I sort of tune out in the off-season and am unaware, has there been something written on the "10,000 feet" view of the "purge"?  Seems like there was a lot of movement beyond folks taking their skills to other organizations.

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« Reply #60 on: January 25, 2019, 05:44:17 pm »
Bo Porter joins the commentator team on pre and postgame shows on Nats' TV broadcasts. He's replacing ex-Astro Ray Knight who was fired for some contretemps with a MASN staffer last year. Porter of course spent 2 seasons as 3B coach for Washington before being hired by the Astros.
Saw him on MLB Network today. Said he learned a lot as Astros manager. Doesn't regret his experience and considers the Astros a top flight organization.
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« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2019, 02:54:33 pm »
Added the Indians...

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Franklin Stubbs--hitting coach @ short season Hillsboro (D-Backs)
Dave Borkowski--pitching coach @ AA Tulsa (Dodgers)
Jason Bourgeois--coach @ low-A Great Lakes (Dodgers)
Jim Pankovits--manager @ hi-A Lynchburg (Indians)
Pete Harnisch--special assignment pitching coach (Mariners)
Jimmy Van Ostrand--peak performance coach (Mariners)
Randy Knorr--manager @ AAA Fresno (Nats)
Jimmy Jones--pitching coach @ AA Amarillo (Padres)
Burt Hooton--pitching coach @ low-A Fort Wayne (Padres)
John Halama--pitching coach @ short season Peoria (Padres)
Jonathan Meyer--fielding coach @ short season Peoria (Padres)
Fernando Nieve--pitching coach @ short season GCL (Pirates)
Quinten McCracken--coach @ AAA Durham (Rays)
Morgan Ensberg--manager @ AA Montgomery (Rays)
Rafael Valenzuela--manager @ short season GCL (Rays)
Danny Darwin--pitching coach @ AA Chattanooga (Reds)
Daryle Ward--hitting coach @ AA Chattanooga (Reds)
Ricky Gutierrez--manager @ hi-A Daytona (Reds)
Rich Gedman--hitting coach @ AAA Pawtucket (Red Sox)
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« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2019, 03:44:22 pm »
For lack of a better spot to put it, an article on Cavan Biggio on his transition to playing multiple positions and the possibility he makes his MLB debut with the BJs this year.

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« Reply #63 on: January 30, 2019, 09:40:51 pm »
JB Shuck latches on to his 7th organization, signing a minor league deal with the Pirates with a big camp invite.

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« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2019, 03:09:52 pm »
Rangers sign Hunter Pence to a minor league deal with an invite to major league camp.
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Rangers sign Hunter Pence to a minor league deal with an invite to major league camp.
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« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2019, 05:58:23 pm »
Rangers sign Hunter Pence to a minor league deal with an invite to major league camp.

I thought he was too hurt to keep playing.
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« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2019, 07:25:14 pm »
I thought he was too hurt to keep playing.

He apparently played in the Dominican this winter.

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Rangers sign Hunter Pence to a minor league deal with an invite to major league camp.

He grew up in Arlington and played at UT-Arlington.  Location, location, location.
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I thought he was too hurt to keep playing.

Hunter Pence suddenly... changed course?


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Hunter Pence suddenly... changed course?


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« Reply #73 on: February 08, 2019, 10:27:20 am »
I read that Pence worked with a "swing guru" in Oct./Nov. to "rebuild" his swing in a way that wouldn't aggravate his back condition.  He posted video of himself hitting in the cage last week on Twitter or Instagram.  I saw no apparent differences, though I doubt anyone really knows what is going on in that swing.  His hack appears to be as herky-jerky and discombobulated as ever.

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« Reply #74 on: February 14, 2019, 11:10:28 am »
Former Astros Tim Fedorowicz and Asher wojo signed minor league/camp invites with the Tribe.
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« Reply #75 on: February 14, 2019, 12:12:14 pm »
A classic.

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« Reply #76 on: February 14, 2019, 05:46:12 pm »
Robbie Grossman signed with the A's, Xavier Cedeno with the Cubs and Doug Fister retires.

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« Reply #77 on: February 16, 2019, 06:01:49 pm »
Maybin going to San Francisco as a non-roster invitee.

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News on Jandel who's got a non-roster invite with SF...

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« Reply #79 on: February 25, 2019, 01:43:37 pm »
Kyle Tucker's bro signed with the White Sox on a minor league deal with big league camp invite.

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« Reply #80 on: February 28, 2019, 05:22:16 pm »
Bud Norris has to settle for a minor league deal with the BJs.

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« Reply #81 on: February 28, 2019, 05:25:49 pm »
Bud Norris has to settle for a minor league deal with the BJs.

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« Reply #82 on: March 01, 2019, 01:20:58 am »
Is that a Bob Kraft joke?
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« Reply #83 on: March 01, 2019, 09:28:09 am »
If he makes the team will that be a happy finish?

As long as the younger Rougned Odor doesn't get traded to Toronto.

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If he makes the team will that be a happy finish?

Let’s ask Brad Hand, the reliever.


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« Reply #85 on: March 01, 2019, 03:22:26 pm »
Carlos Gomez finally fulfills his destiny to be a Met.
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« Reply #86 on: March 01, 2019, 03:54:26 pm »
Carlos Gomez finally fulfills his destiny to be a Met.

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Will he be the new Mr. Met? It's a perfect job for him.

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« Reply #88 on: March 05, 2019, 06:47:58 pm »
Cam Maybin arrested for DUI according to reports.


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« Reply #89 on: March 05, 2019, 06:53:15 pm »
Cam Maybin arrested for DUI according to reports.


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Cam Maybin arrested for DUI according to reports.
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« Reply #91 on: March 08, 2019, 09:09:11 am »
According to a new report that just hit MLB Trade Rumors, we offered Martin Maldonado a 2 year contract at the beginning of the offseason that he and Boras turned down.

Maldonado has dumped Boras and hired new representation.


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« Reply #92 on: March 08, 2019, 09:45:15 am »
Boras is going to lose clients a whole lot bigger than Maldonado if he keeps producing results like he has the past 2 years.

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« Reply #93 on: March 08, 2019, 09:55:30 am »
Boras is going to lose clients a whole lot bigger than Maldonado if he keeps producing results like he has the past 2 years.
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According to a new report that just hit MLB Trade Rumors, we offered Martin Maldonado a 2 year contract at the beginning of the offseason that he and Boras turned down.

Maldonado has dumped Boras and hired new representation.

Rosenthal reporting it was for 2 yrs/$12MM.

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« Reply #95 on: March 08, 2019, 04:11:47 pm »
Rosenthal reporting it was for 2 yrs/$12MM.

Holy hell, what was he thinking turning that down?

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« Reply #96 on: March 08, 2019, 04:20:02 pm »
Holy hell, what was he thinking turning that down?

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Incredible what these people are thinking sometimes.
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« Reply #97 on: March 08, 2019, 06:58:43 pm »
Incredible what these people are thinking sometimes.

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« Reply #98 on: March 08, 2019, 08:17:02 pm »
Let him eat cake.

“What was Carlos Lee’s training regimen?”


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« Reply #99 on: March 08, 2019, 08:59:45 pm »
“What was Carlos Lee’s training regimen?”


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« Reply #100 on: March 10, 2019, 04:12:20 pm »
The Dodgers released Josh Fields.

Yordan Alvarez says hi.

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« Reply #101 on: March 10, 2019, 04:35:46 pm »
The Dodgers released Josh Fields.

Yordan Alvarez says hi.

So do Altuve and Correa.

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« Reply #102 on: March 10, 2019, 04:35:48 pm »
The Dodgers released Josh Fields.

Yordan Alvarez says hi.

Between Alvarez and Game 5, that’s really one of the better trades in franchise history.

Edit: son of a gun, wasn’t quick enough on the draw.

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« Reply #103 on: March 10, 2019, 04:58:58 pm »
Between Alvarez and Game 5, that’s really one of the better trades in franchise history.

Edit: son of a gun, wasn’t quick enough on the draw.

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« Reply #104 on: March 10, 2019, 05:17:04 pm »
Game 2.

Oh of course, I confused him with Morrow in G5.

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« Reply #105 on: March 10, 2019, 10:34:07 pm »
Brian Bogusevic--didn't realize the ex-1st rounder had officially ended his playing career (last played in the Red Sox org in 2017) and is now doing studio work for ATTSW on Astros' broadcasts this spring.

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« Reply #106 on: March 13, 2019, 09:03:20 am »
Tony Sipp signs a major league deal with the Nats, $1.25 million with a $250k buyout on a 2020 mutual option (option is for $2.5 million).

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« Reply #107 on: March 13, 2019, 12:35:05 pm »
Tony Sipp signs a major league deal with the Nats, $1.25 million with a $250k buyout on a 2020 mutual option (option is for $2.5 million).

That's a bargain.
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« Reply #108 on: March 13, 2019, 12:38:21 pm »
That's a bargain.

For last year Tony, yes.  For last 3 years Tony, not so much.

Smart of the Nats to back load the value of the contract and make it optional.
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While looking for Kyle Tucker's minor league stats during ST, I ran across these notes:

Glad to see Preston getting a chance w/ the WS (minor league FA contract), driving in the 6th & 7th runs in an 8-run 8th inning.  https://www.mlb.com/video/white-sox-s-8-run-8th-inning-c2523607983 

and Colin Moran getting a chance @ 3B w/ the Bucs. 
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   Good update https://www.mlb.com/news/colin-moran-aims-to-improve-defensive-skills-c304024496

Musgrove is recovering from abdominal surgery and a stress fracture https://www.mlb.com/news/joe-musgrove-easing-into-throwing-this-spring-c303902114
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« Reply #110 on: March 18, 2019, 02:42:50 pm »
Moran is actually in a worse spot than he was last year - he was the primary 3B for PIT, and now they've named Jung-Ho Kang as the starter over Colin. And those guys are probably just keeping the seat warm for Charlie Hayes' son.
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« Reply #111 on: March 19, 2019, 05:47:42 pm »
Josh Fields has signed a minor league deal with the Brewers.


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Josh Fields has signed a minor league deal with the Brewers.

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« Reply #113 on: March 19, 2019, 07:19:31 pm »
Brewers will lead the league in flowing locks.

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« Reply #114 on: March 21, 2019, 01:28:03 pm »
Rangers sign Hunter Pence to a minor league deal with an invite to major league camp.

Apparently he's been told he's made the OD roster.

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« Reply #115 on: March 22, 2019, 06:28:56 am »
Pitcher Jose Cisnero was signed by the Astros back in 2007, spent all or parts of 7 years in the minors and reached Houston for 28 appearances in 2013 and another 5 appearances in 2014. In the final game of that latter year, he blew out his elbow pitching at Comerica Park. It turned out to be his final game with the Astros and last major league appearance to date. He moved on to short stints with the Reds and D-Backs. Since then there's been time in the Mexican League and an indy league and finally a last gasp chance in 2018 in an obscure DR league called the Cibao Summer League. It's for released players and Cubans who haven't yet caught on with an MLB organization. Pitched well enough there to gain an invite to the DWL where the Tigers saw him and signed him. They even gave him a non-roster invite to big league camp this spring. Showing off 97/98 velo, he's pitched well enough that he's one of three guys being considered for the final spot in the Detroit bullpen.

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https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2019/03/21/power-up-detroit-tigers-have-added-some-muscle-bullpen-mix/3233503002/

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« Reply #116 on: March 28, 2019, 07:14:26 pm »
Marwin is off to a good start.
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« Reply #117 on: March 29, 2019, 07:01:08 am »
Marwin is off to a good start.
Big game winning hit by him yesterday after a rough spring training. I wish him the best. I really like that Twins team.

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« Reply #118 on: March 30, 2019, 04:21:35 pm »
Big game winning hit by him yesterday after a rough spring training. I wish him the best. I really like that Twins team.

They really should sign Keuchel.


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« Reply #119 on: March 30, 2019, 10:27:13 pm »
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« Reply #120 on: March 31, 2019, 06:36:46 pm »
Your league doesn't have a mechanism to keep people from drafting non-affiliated players?

Apparently not, and what hurt was that he was oicked on aut0draft. But my protestations were shot down with a heaping helping of fuck off, it serves you right.
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« Reply #121 on: April 01, 2019, 05:10:22 am »
Trent Thornton, of Fresno (AAA) fame last year and traded to the Blue Jays for Díaz pitches five innings, allowing two hits, no runs and striking out 8 (!) in his MLB debut yesterday. Good for him.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/trent-thornton-sets-blue-jays-record-strikeouts-mlb-debut/sn-amp/
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« Reply #122 on: April 06, 2019, 02:04:18 pm »
JD Davis with two homers so far today for the Mets.
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« Reply #123 on: April 06, 2019, 03:24:30 pm »
Ouch. After some other Nats reliever surrenders the lead by giving up two homers, Sipp comes into a 5-5 game with two outs and nobody on. He promptly gives up a double, a HBP, and a single to give up the lead for good.
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« Reply #124 on: April 21, 2019, 02:07:44 pm »
A baseball clinic would probably be too much to ask, so I guess anything will do.

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« Reply #125 on: April 22, 2019, 11:08:22 am »
And here's your regularly scheduled Ramon Laureano defensive highlight:  https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1120066941144698885
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« Reply #126 on: April 22, 2019, 11:21:07 am »
That was a misfire from Laser Ramon


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« Reply #127 on: April 22, 2019, 11:52:08 am »
That was a misfire from Laser Ramon


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« Reply #128 on: April 22, 2019, 12:04:44 pm »
Textbook 8-2-6 dp.

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That was a misfire from Laser Ramon


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That was a misfire from Laser Ramon


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« Reply #131 on: April 22, 2019, 04:42:49 pm »
Textbook 8-2-6 dp.
The great ones make it look routine.
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« Reply #132 on: May 08, 2019, 01:12:56 am »
Mike Fiers just threw a no-hitter against the Reds. Wow

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« Reply #134 on: May 08, 2019, 07:21:08 am »
Mike Fiers just threw a no-hitter against the Reds. Wow

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« Reply #135 on: May 08, 2019, 07:38:17 am »
Mike Fiers just threw a no-hitter against the Reds. Wow

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« Reply #136 on: May 08, 2019, 09:00:26 am »
Raise your hands if you thought Mike Fiers would throw TWO no-hitters in MLB.
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« Reply #137 on: May 08, 2019, 09:36:23 am »
Raise your hands if you thought Mike Fiers would throw TWO no-hitters in MLB.

Isn't that the truth.

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« Reply #138 on: May 08, 2019, 09:37:04 am »
Raise your hands if you thought Mike Fiers would throw TWO no-hitters in MLB.

I would have hesitated if you asked "9 hitless innings in a season."


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« Reply #139 on: May 08, 2019, 09:49:15 am »
Raise your hands if you thought Mike Fiers would throw TWO no-hitters in MLB.
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« Reply #140 on: May 08, 2019, 09:57:55 am »

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« Reply #141 on: May 08, 2019, 10:05:21 am »
I don't understand how an organization as astute at evaluating talent let Laureano get away.

Because he was blocked. Surely that is not hard to see or understand. They did him a favor by trading him, and he said thanks you.
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« Reply #142 on: May 08, 2019, 10:12:23 am »
I don't understand how an organization as astute at evaluating talent let Laureano get away.

Who would you replace with him, Springer, Reddick or Brantley?
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« Reply #143 on: May 08, 2019, 10:24:47 am »
Who would you replace with him, Springer, Reddick or Brantley?
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« Reply #144 on: May 08, 2019, 10:35:01 am »
I assume he would have Jake's job.

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« Reply #145 on: May 08, 2019, 10:42:27 am »
Marisnick
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Thanks, I will keep springer, Brantley, reddick, and Marisnick

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2019
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« Reply #146 on: May 08, 2019, 10:47:38 am »
Nice problem to have.

Too much talent in the system for it all too see the light of day with the big club.

Hope that keeps up.

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« Reply #147 on: May 08, 2019, 11:23:10 am »
I assume he would have Jake's job.

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« Reply #148 on: May 08, 2019, 11:33:50 am »
Wrong.
Insightful.  Never said that's what I'd want, but *if* they had chosen to keep Laureano, the 4/5 OFer, all-world glove, suspect bat with some pop, PR role would seem to make the most sense.  They're very similar players.
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« Reply #149 on: May 08, 2019, 11:56:54 am »
I assume he would have Jake's job.

Next year. I believe Jake is in his last contract year.

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« Reply #150 on: May 08, 2019, 12:11:36 pm »
Raise your hands if you thought Mike Fiers would throw TWO no-hitters in MLB.

He now has two career complete games.
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« Reply #151 on: May 08, 2019, 12:22:49 pm »
I assume he would have Jake's job.

So you'd swap Jake for Laureano?  Why?
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« Reply #152 on: May 08, 2019, 12:26:08 pm »
Insightful.  Never said that's what I'd want, but *if* they had chosen to keep Laureano, the 4/5 OFer, all-world glove, suspect bat with some pop, PR role would seem to make the most sense.  They're very similar players.

Laureano has far less pop than Jake.  I get that's a great defensive outfielder.  But he's a black hole at the plate, and the Astros were already full up with great glove/hole-in-the-bat backup outfielders.  I don't get the handwringing over losing him. 
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« Reply #153 on: May 08, 2019, 01:13:31 pm »
Insightful.  Never said that's what I'd want, but *if* they had chosen to keep Laureano, the 4/5 OFer, all-world glove, suspect bat with some pop, PR role would seem to make the most sense.  They're very similar players.

Really. So tell Tucker and Alvarez “sorry” Laureano has your spot.

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« Reply #154 on: May 08, 2019, 02:24:49 pm »


Cannot keep them all.

Exactly, and it's not like he was released.  They acquired RP, Brandon Bailey for him.  I do not know what Bailey will amount to, but they had to move some players and took a shot on him.  We are still a year or two away from really figuring out how the Astros/A's make out on this trade, and whether or not it was a good idea to send him away.

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« Reply #155 on: May 08, 2019, 02:39:59 pm »
Exactly, and it's not like he was released.  They acquired RP, Brandon Bailey for him.  I do not know what Bailey will amount to, but they had to move some players and took a shot on him.  We are still a year or two away from really figuring out how the Astros/A's make out on this trade, and whether or not it was a good idea to send him away.

Yep yep yep. Bailey is interesting. He's another guy they targeted for spin—they have a pretty solid track record with pitchers like that. Book's still open on this one.

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« Reply #156 on: May 08, 2019, 10:16:25 pm »
Insightful.  Never said that's what I'd want, but *if* they had chosen to keep Laureano, the 4/5 OFer, all-world glove, suspect bat with some pop, PR role would seem to make the most sense.  They're very similar players.
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« Reply #157 on: May 09, 2019, 08:22:12 am »
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« Reply #158 on: May 09, 2019, 08:34:11 am »
Exactly, and it's not like he was released.  They acquired RP, Brandon Bailey for him.  I do not know what Bailey will amount to, but they had to move some players and took a shot on him.  We are still a year or two away from really figuring out how the Astros/A's make out on this trade, and whether or not it was a good idea to send him away.
This.  I was happy to see the Davis trade too, we'll see on that eventually, and I still have some level of hope they can get something/anything eventually for the White/Reed/Kemp/esp. Fisher types who don't really have a future with the big club. 

Really. So tell Tucker and Alvarez “sorry” Laureano has your spot.

and Straw?

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Straw I like and hope they keep for that purpose.  Tucker and Alvarez do not fit the role I was talking about.  Tucker was brought up to be a starting OFer, Alvarez when he's brought up will be in the lineup everyday.

What I originally said was that I assumed, after Hudson asked someone else which starting OFer Laureano would have replaced, that he would have replaced a bench OF.  That is literally all I said.
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« Reply #159 on: May 09, 2019, 09:24:48 am »
It's not hard to understand both thought processes.

- In trading Laureano, the Astros knew that he had little chance of playing everyday until at least 2019 (and, as it turned out, the Brantley signing pushed that back to at least 2021), Marisnick was a known quantity with several years' worth of experience, and they were betting that Marisnick as the 4th OF and Kemp/Tucker/Fisher/Straw/Alvarez as the 5th OF were, at worst, good enough defensively (if not equivalent in most cases) with more offensive upside than Laureano.
- If they had kept Laureano, it would have been because they'd be ready to move on from Marisnick (who, as the oldest of all the players in this post, would indeed probably be the one to get voted off the island), they'd get roughly equivalent offensive production and defense from the others while saving money, and fix something in Laureano's hitting.

We also can't dodge the fact that Marisnick and Laureano are remarkably similar players.  In the minors:

Marisnick: .280/.347/.450, 2.84 K:BB, 1 SB every 3.9 games
Laureano: .271/.350/..445, 2.36 K:BB, 1 SB every 3.9 games

In the majors, Laureano's sample size is smaller so direct comparisons are hard, but we do know that both strike out way too much (especially Marisnick).

You can defend keeping Marisnick, and I'm glad we have him.  But it would not have been hard to defend keeping Laureano, even if it were at Marisnick's expense.
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« Reply #160 on: May 09, 2019, 09:38:06 am »
You can defend keeping Marisnick, and I'm glad we have him.  But it would not have been hard to defend keeping Laureano, even if it were at Marisnick's expense.

I don't think anyone is disputing that Laureano could fill a similar role, it's just responding to the original comment that the Astros somehow missed the boat on him and it calls into question their ability to judge talent.  He's got value, but he's not the kind of player who pushes people out of his way, and he simply wasn't an upgrade. 
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« Reply #161 on: May 09, 2019, 10:12:18 am »
I don't think anyone is disputing that Laureano could fill a similar role, it's just responding to the original comment that the Astros somehow missed the boat on him and it calls into question their ability to judge talent.  He's got value, but he's not the kind of player who pushes people out of his way, and he simply wasn't an upgrade.

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« Reply #162 on: May 09, 2019, 11:40:50 am »
I don't think anyone is disputing that Laureano could fill a similar role, it's just responding to the original comment that the Astros somehow missed the boat on him and it calls into question their ability to judge talent.  He's got value, but he's not the kind of player who pushes people out of his way, and he simply wasn't an upgrade.

I'm sure you are referring to my post and let me clarify something. I never questioned the organization's talent evaluation abilities.  I complimented it. The rest of your post I agree with in retrospect and in reading some of the board's comments.

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« Reply #163 on: May 09, 2019, 02:21:39 pm »
I don't think anyone is disputing that Laureano could fill a similar role, it's just responding to the original comment that the Astros somehow missed the boat on him and it calls into question their ability to judge talent.  He's got value, but he's not the kind of player who pushes people out of his way, and he simply wasn't an upgrade.
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« Reply #164 on: May 09, 2019, 04:07:39 pm »
I'm sure you are referring to my post and let me clarify something. I never questioned the organization's talent evaluation abilities.  I complimented it. The rest of your post I agree with in retrospect and in reading some of the board's comments.

You said how could they have missed Laureano if they are so good at evaluation. That is what everyone reacted to.
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You said how could they have missed Laureano if they are so good at evaluation. That is what everyone reacted to.

"If" was not included in the sentence.

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"If" was not included in the sentence.

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A distinction without a difference.

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Only if that is what you want it to be.

“I don't understand how an organization as astute at evaluating talent let Laureano get away.”
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« Reply #169 on: May 10, 2019, 02:20:43 pm »
Luhnow in April:

"I don't think we quite had the defense rated as well as its played in the big leagues.  That was an underassessment on our part."

"We had a feeling (Laureano) was going to be a pretty good big league player, but he's gotten off to a faster start in his career than we thought.  So, yeah, he's one that I'd love to have back."

"We just didn't feel he was going to be as good a center fielder as Jake (Marisnick) or as Myles (Straw) and some of the other guys we have.  He certainly has proven to be every bit the player."
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« Reply #170 on: May 10, 2019, 02:55:31 pm »
Luhnow in April:

"I don't think we quite had the defense rated as well as its played in the big leagues.  That was an underassessment on our part."

"We had a feeling (Laureano) was going to be a pretty good big league player, but he's gotten off to a faster start in his career than we thought.  So, yeah, he's one that I'd love to have back."

"We just didn't feel he was going to be as good a center fielder as Jake (Marisnick) or as Myles (Straw) and some of the other guys we have.  He certainly has proven to be every bit the player."

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ETA: I have no doubt Laureano has exceeded the brain trust’s expectations. To that, I would say so also has Straw. He is a decent hitter at RR and is playing SS as well. There simply is no way to keep all of the talent Houston has stockpiled, and for the foreseeable future, Laureano was competing with Straw to be a 4th or 5th OFer. Sure no one is saying he projected to be better than Marisnick before he was traded. He has done very well with the As, and good for him. Hader is the one I want back, but even that is 20-20 hindsight.
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Yup because to give a more exhaustive answer would not be thoroughly understood. Those who played this game will tell you there is a phenomenon called "when the switch went on" when it comes to a player becoming much better than anticipated. There is no way to tell when or where a switch will go on, you can only judge by the skill that you predict the kid will be a good major leaguer. You can overestimate the ability to play in the big leagues on a player as much as you can underestimate on said player. It is because of all you can do is go on skill level. That is why you have different levels of minor leagues to try and mitigate only going on skill for the major league level. The more competitive leagues you have a player go through, the better because they prove what you see in skill is true. But does it prove they are major league ready or that one player is more ready than another? Only the major leagues will tell you that. The best you can do is read as much as you can into a players performance beyond skills. Read temperament, work ethics, baseball smarts and acumen,  and how they react when they are in a slump as much as when they are going well. None of that translates into numbers. It is what good baseball men will use to judge what the numbers are saying and are not saying.

It's not an exact science, it is more of a judgment call. You can't doubt your judgment because one day the switch went on and the same player that was not getting it (how to be a major league) all of sudden gets it. Sometimes we just say to ourselves "He's not the same player he used to be".  The Astros judge by numbers and they are better at it than any team in the majors. But no one in the majors is immune to a player's switch going on at some point in their career. That you cannot judge. To try and say the Astros should have done better to judge his ability to play in the majors is asking them to be Kreskin. No one can do that beyond judging skill and that they Astros on pure skill alone said Marisnick and Straw were better skill-wise is a very honest answer.

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« Reply #172 on: May 10, 2019, 04:10:07 pm »
Player evaluation is all about projecting the future, not about past static’s. “How will be project as an every day player? As a backup?” In Keuchel (and others) case, “how will he be as he ages?”
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The Laureano kid does have the best outfield arm in MLB, except for maybe Cespedes, Puig, or Hicks.
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« Reply #174 on: May 10, 2019, 07:49:45 pm »
Player evaluation is all about projecting the future, not about past static’s. “How will be project as an every day player? As a backup?” In Keuchel (and others) case, “how will he be as he ages?”

The “as he ages” part is just so interesting both on the ascending (as with Laureano) and descending (as with Keuchel) side of the equation. It’s one of the things I like about following the Astros. We get to see the results of that analysis played out very, very well. And it’s fun to try to dip our toe into that analytical stream and try to figure out their analytical process.
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« Reply #175 on: May 10, 2019, 10:29:09 pm »
Marwin was injured in a scary play tonight at first base while trying to beat out an infield grounder. He took a knee to the head when he collided with Tigers first baseman Goodrum and suffered a facial contusion. Hope he gets well soon. After a slow start, Marwin was just starting to heat up.


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« Reply #177 on: May 14, 2019, 07:47:38 am »
Marwin has a 6 game hitting streak and is batting .357 in May.
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« Reply #178 on: May 14, 2019, 08:14:33 am »
Marwin has a 6 game hitting streak and is batting .357 in May.

Ask me if I care. He plays for the Twins. I loved him in Houston and am grateful for all he accomplishments, but he chased money, turned us down, and did not stay. In 2019 he is a JAG on another team.
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« Reply #179 on: May 14, 2019, 08:20:16 am »
Plus, after a rough start Diaz is really starting to look good (and has been better than Marwin at the plate).
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« Reply #180 on: May 14, 2019, 08:30:55 am »
Ask me if I care. He plays for the Twins. I loved him in Houston and am grateful for all he accomplishments, but he chased money, turned us down, and did not stay. In 2019 he is a JAG on another team.

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« Reply #181 on: May 14, 2019, 08:37:24 am »
Ask me if I care. He plays for the Twins. I loved him in Houston and am grateful for all he accomplishments, but he chased money, turned us down, and did not stay. In 2019 he is a JAG on another team.

Did the Astros ever make an offer for him to turn down? I don’t remember one being reported. They traded for Diaz very early last offseason to replace him, so I guess it is possible he didn’t engage in discussions and the team quickly moved on. But I do not remember anything like that being reported.

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« Reply #182 on: May 14, 2019, 08:41:55 am »
Did the Astros ever make an offer for him to turn down? I don’t remember one being reported. They traded for Diaz very early last offseason to replace him, so I guess it is possible he didn’t engage in discussions and the team quickly moved on. But I do not remember anything like that being reported.
I expect he made his financial demands known and the Astros moved on.

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« Reply #183 on: May 14, 2019, 09:16:37 am »
Did the Astros ever make an offer for him to turn down? I don’t remember one being reported. They traded for Diaz very early last offseason to replace him, so I guess it is possible he didn’t engage in discussions and the team quickly moved on. But I do not remember anything like that being reported.

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« Reply #184 on: May 14, 2019, 09:18:34 am »
This thread may not be up your alley.

I understand the purpose of the thread and read all updates posted. I am saying what I think about unrequited love for Marwin.
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« Reply #186 on: May 14, 2019, 11:53:52 am »
I understand the purpose of the thread and read all updated posted. I am saying what I think about unrequited love for Marwin.
I compartmentalize. I like a few players on other teams. I want their teams to lose when they play the Astros but otherwise enjoy seeing them succeed as long as it's not at the Astros expense. There are guys on other teams that I also hate and hope they never become Astros. Sometimes, as in the cases of Carlos Gomez's and Roger Clemen's times as Astros, I'm conflicted by wanting someone I dislike to do well. That said no one misses "The King" more than I do. Also, how do you know it's unrequited?
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« Reply #187 on: May 14, 2019, 11:59:43 am »
I compartmentalize. I like a few players on other teams. I want their teams to lose when they play the Astros but otherwise enjoy seeing them succeed as long as it's not at the Astros expense. There are guys on other teams that I also hate and hope they never become Astros. Sometimes, as in the cases of Carlos Gomez's and Roger Clemen's times as Astros, I'm conflicted by wanting someone I dislike to do well. That said no one misses "The King" more than I do. Also, how do you know it's unrequited?

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« Reply #188 on: May 14, 2019, 12:54:03 pm »
I will always hold Marwin as special. Diaz is my guy now.
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« Reply #189 on: May 14, 2019, 12:58:24 pm »
I will always hold Marwin as special. Diaz is my guy now.

After his kind of rocky start, I like what we're seeing out of Diaz now. But I'm not sure he'll ever get on top of a Kenley Jansen fastball and drive it out of the park when his team needs it the most.
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« Reply #190 on: May 14, 2019, 01:04:35 pm »
After his kind of rocky start, I like what we're seeing out of Diaz now. But I'm not sure he'll ever get on top of a Kenley Jansen fastball and drive it out of the park when his team needs it the most.

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« Reply #191 on: May 14, 2019, 01:08:12 pm »
After his kind of rocky start, I like what we're seeing out of Diaz now. But I'm not sure he'll ever get on top of a Kenley Jansen fastball and drive it out of the park when his team needs it the most.

Well, neither did Marwin. He lifted a cutter. That was two years ago. This is now. Diaz is an Astro. Marwin is a Twin. Biggest swing in Astros history, and the key word is history.
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« Reply #192 on: May 14, 2019, 01:19:47 pm »
I will always hold Marwin as special. Diaz is my guy now.
Always liked Marwin except his plodding around between pitches. I hope him the best except when facing the good guys.

To me defense is where Marwin separates himself from Diaz so far. Diaz made a great play to his right at 2nd last night, but he doesn't look comfortable in the outfield. He doesn't show to have Marwin's arm strength at SS or outfield either.

I haven't seen any indication that the Astros made Marwin an offer. Although, I have no doubt that if Marwin asked to stay (for a reasonable amount) the Astros would have made that offer in a heartbeat. The Stros signing Diaz early to me indicates that Marwin made it clear he wanted to test the market.

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« Reply #193 on: May 14, 2019, 01:25:34 pm »
WTF. We do not have Marwin or Cesar Cedeno either. This thread is great for keeping up with guys who were in our past, but guys we have now are our future.
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« Reply #194 on: May 14, 2019, 01:27:36 pm »
Brantley is Marwin's replacement on offense. 

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« Reply #195 on: May 14, 2019, 01:40:04 pm »
Always liked Marwin except his plodding around between pitches. I hope him the best except when facing the good guys.

To me defense is where Marwin separates himself from Diaz so far. Diaz made a great play to his right at 2nd last night, but he doesn't look comfortable in the outfield. He doesn't show to have Marwin's arm strength at SS or outfield either.

I haven't seen any indication that the Astros made Marwin an offer. Although, I have no doubt that if Marwin asked to stay (for a reasonable amount) the Astros would have made that offer in a heartbeat. The Stros signing Diaz early to me indicates that Marwin made it clear he wanted to test the market.

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« Reply #196 on: May 14, 2019, 01:55:25 pm »
Crane: “we want to keep Marwin and Keuchel.” How do you keep him without at least asking what it will take?
Yea, no doubt that Luhnow did his part in starting the conversation to keep him. Marwin obviously wanted to test the market. All while Diaz is filling the role for a MUCH lesser price.   

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« Reply #197 on: May 18, 2019, 07:01:11 am »
#KHOU @SL_Skeeters The Skeeters’ newest player is former #Astros outfielder  Willy Taveras. He signed  a contract yesterday and went 1 for 4 at the plate at age 36.
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« Reply #198 on: May 18, 2019, 07:21:48 am »
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« Reply #200 on: May 20, 2019, 01:08:20 pm »
Jordan Lyles is 4-1 with a 1.97 ERA for the Pirates.
Hope he keeps it up.  Always liked that guy.  I predicted he would be good and I've been wrong for a long long time.

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« Reply #201 on: May 24, 2019, 06:32:05 pm »
Michael Feliz (sent as part of Cole trade) started for the Pirates tonight against the Dodgers.  Only recorded one out, left losing 5-0 after giving up a run scoring double and a grand slam in the 1st.

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« Reply #202 on: May 28, 2019, 05:24:13 pm »
Michael Feliz (sent as part of Cole trade) started for the Pirates tonight against the Dodgers.  Only recorded one out, left losing 5-0 after giving up a run scoring double and a grand slam in the 1st.

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« Reply #203 on: May 28, 2019, 05:24:41 pm »
Jake Elmore got DFA'd.
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« Reply #204 on: May 28, 2019, 05:39:58 pm »
Heard on a recent Effectively Wild that Chris Carter is the king of the Mexican League right now. Mashing insanely and not in a particularly hitter-friendly stadium. Goes to show how great Big Leaguers are.

I was happy to hear it. I always liked Gentle Bear--especially when he was DHing. I will long remember the ripping singles he'd smash through the gap on clotheslines that got to the wall too fast for him to advance.

Anyway, he even became a Mexican citizen! How easy is that, by the way? (Asking for a friend.)

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« Reply #205 on: June 06, 2019, 08:46:12 pm »
Keuchel just signed with the Atlanta Braves. No terms announced as I type but sounds like a one year deal.


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« Reply #206 on: June 06, 2019, 09:08:59 pm »
$20 million, prorated to $13 million.

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Is boras going to make him whole on the $5mm he lost?


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« Reply #208 on: June 07, 2019, 04:42:50 am »
Is boras going to make him whole on the $5mm he lost?


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« Reply #211 on: June 07, 2019, 09:13:08 am »
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Boras is proclaiming loudly that he "won".  He got a $20MM/year contract instead of the $17.9MM QO from the Astros.  Scoreboard. 

I'm not sure how he's going to explain to Mrs. Keuchel that she has $4.9MM less to spend this year though. 
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And I have it from a fairly reliable source that Boras advised him to take the Astros $17.9MM QO, but Keuchel insisted on testing free agency.  Either way, this is 100% on Keuchel, not his agent.
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« Reply #213 on: June 07, 2019, 10:42:49 am »
And I have it from a fairly reliable source that Boras advised him to take the Astros $17.9MM QO, but Keuchel insisted on testing free agency.  Either way, this is 100% on Keuchel, not his agent.

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« Reply #214 on: June 07, 2019, 02:24:14 pm »
And I have it from a fairly reliable source that Boras advised him to take the Astros $17.9MM QO, but Keuchel insisted on testing free agency.  Either way, this is 100% on Keuchel, not his agent.

If this is true, I have to at least give credit to Boras for keeping it quiet even though the entire episode has made him (Boras) look bad to outsiders.
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« Reply #215 on: June 07, 2019, 05:45:57 pm »
If this is true, I have to at least give credit to Boras for keeping it quiet even though the entire episode has made him (Boras) look bad to outsiders.

Anyone who matters understands its always 100% the player's call.  He probably doesn't lose any sleep over what the talk radio crowd thinks.
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« Reply #216 on: June 07, 2019, 05:59:39 pm »
Anyone who matters understands its always 100% the player's call.  He probably doesn't lose any sleep over what the talk radio crowd thinks.

This. This right here. Boras is laughing all the way to the bank.
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« Reply #217 on: June 12, 2019, 04:10:47 pm »
Ken Giles headed to the DL IL right before the Astros-Blue Jays series:
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/blue-jays-ken-giles-out-with-elbow-inflammation/

He's been having a pretty good year: 1.08 ERA, 11 saves in 12 tries, 1.04 WHIP, 42 K in 25 IP.
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« Reply #218 on: June 17, 2019, 09:56:18 pm »
Not sure if this should go here or the bus ride but...

The triumphant return of Felipe Paulino??? Astros have signed him and he's headed to RR, yes THAT Felipe Paulino who debuted 10+ years ago. He's been with the Skeeters most recently

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« Reply #219 on: June 18, 2019, 08:59:20 am »
Not sure if this should go here or the bus ride but...

The triumphant return of Felipe Paulino??? Astros have signed him and he's headed to RR, yes THAT Felipe Paulino who debuted 10+ years ago. He's been with the Skeeters most recently

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Went to a Skeeters game earlier this summer and got to see him pitch.  He still has some swing and miss in him; wasn't he a fireballer when he came up?  Because I think his velocity topped out at 93-94.
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« Reply #220 on: June 18, 2019, 09:13:33 am »
Went to a Skeeters game earlier this summer and got to see him pitch.  He still has some swing and miss in him; wasn't he a fireballer when he came up?  Because I think his velocity topped out at 93-94.

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« Reply #221 on: June 19, 2019, 07:13:05 am »
Cam Maybin has homered in 4 consecutive games.
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« Reply #222 on: June 19, 2019, 10:29:28 pm »
Cam Maybin has homered in 4 consecutive games.

Mrs Maybin told me the other day that he is really impressed by the Yankee esprit de corps. Said with a lot of teams there is a sense of resentment or competition directed to the guy brought in to fill the slot of an injured player; not so in the Bronx, she said. They just want to win.

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« Reply #223 on: June 20, 2019, 11:11:36 am »
J D Martinez's former agent has filed a law suit against Martinez's financial adviser and Merrill Lynch (who the adviser used to work for) for "intentional interference with his contract" $Athletic$

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« Reply #224 on: June 27, 2019, 04:11:13 pm »
Jon Kemmer signed to a minor league contract after a great first half in the Mexican League.
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« Reply #225 on: July 30, 2019, 11:29:22 am »
May have been covered in the trade thread but I didn't have time to search .....

Jordan Lyles traded to the Brewers.  It seems like this guy has been around for ever but he is still just 28 years old.  He performed well for the Brewers last year after the trade deadline.  Hoping to catch the magic again.
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« Reply #226 on: July 30, 2019, 04:46:44 pm »
C Jake Rogers (part of the Verlander deal) has been called up by the Tigers:
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« Reply #227 on: July 31, 2019, 08:39:42 am »
C Jake Rogers (part of the Verlander deal) has been called up by the Tigers:
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« Reply #228 on: August 01, 2019, 08:46:06 am »
May have been covered in the trade thread but I didn't have time to search .....

Jordan Lyles traded to the Brewers.  It seems like this guy has been around for ever but he is still just 28 years old.  He performed well for the Brewers last year after the trade deadline.  Hoping to catch the magic again.
Nice to see that he went 5 giving up only 1 run, and Albers and Hader each pitched a scoreless inning last night in the Brewers victory over the A’s.

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Lucroy DFA to make room for Stassi.
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« Reply #231 on: August 02, 2019, 01:18:11 pm »
Lucroy DFA to make room for Stassi.
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« Reply #232 on: August 02, 2019, 01:38:12 pm »
Lucroy DFA to make room for Stassi.

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« Reply #233 on: August 02, 2019, 01:43:37 pm »
Lucroy DFA to make room for Stassi.

Did Marisnick break him?
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« Reply #234 on: August 02, 2019, 01:44:35 pm »
Lucroy DFA to make room for Stassi.

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« Reply #235 on: August 02, 2019, 01:51:07 pm »
Lucroy DFA to make room for Stassi.

All I can figure is it’s a favor to let him join an contender.


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« Reply #236 on: August 02, 2019, 02:12:52 pm »
Lucroy DFA to make room for Stassi.
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« Reply #237 on: August 02, 2019, 02:15:54 pm »
Lucroy DFA to make room for Stassi.

With the new trade deadline rules, can you trade a DFA after the deadline? How does that work?

(Not that the Astros would want Lucroy right now - just a general question.)
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« Reply #238 on: August 02, 2019, 02:18:31 pm »
With the new trade deadline rules, can you trade a DFA after the deadline? How does that work?

(Not that the Astros would want Lucroy right now - just a general question.)

You can’t. He has to pass waivers and become a free agent.


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« Reply #239 on: August 02, 2019, 02:51:48 pm »
You can’t. He has to pass waivers and become a free agent.


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They can trade him within the seven-day window, right? See White, T. and Kemp, T.
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« Reply #240 on: August 02, 2019, 03:14:52 pm »
They can trade him within the seven-day window, right? See White, T. and Kemp, T.

Not after the deadline. No player who was on a major league roster at July 31 can be dealt.


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« Reply #241 on: August 02, 2019, 03:21:15 pm »
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The fact that Lunhow got players back for White,  Kemp,  and Stassi is pretty remarkable considering there was an unavoidable roster crunch underway.

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« Reply #242 on: August 02, 2019, 03:39:51 pm »
Not after the deadline. No player who was on a major league roster at July 31 can be dealt.


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« Reply #243 on: August 02, 2019, 03:56:45 pm »
The fact that Lunhow got players back for White,  Kemp,  and Stassi is pretty remarkable considering there was an unavoidable roster crunch underway.

This is one of the most impressive detail oriented things the FO did during this deadline.  To accomplish those moves while also making the big deals is amazing.
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« Reply #244 on: August 02, 2019, 04:46:58 pm »
Lucroy DFA to make room for Stassi.
WTF?

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....Now, Lucroy can’t be traded. If and when he’s placed on outright waivers, rival organizations will have a chance to claim his contract, which would mean taking on the remainder of the $3.35MM he’s guaranteed this year. (The deal also includes bonuses based upon games started as a catcher and plate appearances.)...

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.....Man, Lucroy got screwed. First he gets demolished by Marisnick, then loses his spot on the team because of it. Oh, and by a former teammate - Stassi - of Marisnick no less. Ouch.

.....(cold, DFA right after IL) "They had to, you can’t release or demote someone on the IL."

.....His defense behind the plate was really bad even before holy saint Jake hung a left and sent him to the hospital.  I doubt there much of a market for him, but wish him well....

.....Stassi has 3 years of club control and the Angels system is scary thin at catcher. Max will be in training camp next Spring. Lucroy won’t.  but I do agree he creates a new baseline, not a new ceiling.

Who KNEW they were done w/ Lucroy, probably b/f the collision!  That explains why Stassi was worth a couple kids

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« Reply #245 on: August 02, 2019, 10:03:50 pm »
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Not just on a MLB roster on 7/31 - anyone who had been on a MLB roster at any point this season can't be traded after July 31.  Players on minor league contracts who had no MLB service time this season can still be traded.

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« Reply #246 on: August 02, 2019, 10:31:15 pm »
I don't understand it, but if one lives long enough.....
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« Reply #247 on: August 02, 2019, 11:46:27 pm »
WTF?

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« Reply #248 on: August 03, 2019, 12:09:00 am »
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« Reply #249 on: August 03, 2019, 07:18:55 am »
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« Reply #251 on: August 03, 2019, 12:25:41 pm »
The diving catch was one thing, but I'm not sure why everyone is surprised that a pitcher with a mid-90s fastball could make an on-target throw from left field and nail someone at the plate.  Unusual circumstances for sure, but hardly far fetched.

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« Reply #252 on: August 03, 2019, 12:45:37 pm »
The diving catch was one thing, but I'm not sure why everyone is surprised that a pitcher with a mid-90s fastball could make an on-target throw from left field and nail someone at the plate.  Unusual circumstances for sure, but hardly far fetched.

Sure, he has the arm strength, but fielding a ball and making a throw on target at a high velocity from the outfield is different from throwing a pitch.


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« Reply #253 on: August 03, 2019, 01:40:57 pm »
His catch was a 15% catch probability and the Phillies first 5 star outfield catch this year
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« Reply #254 on: August 03, 2019, 02:44:26 pm »
His catch was a 15% catch probability and the Phillies first 5 star outfield catch this year
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« Reply #255 on: August 03, 2019, 07:28:07 pm »
Unfortunate incident for Derek Fisher in Baltimore. He was playing right and came running in to catch a pop fly in short right. He missed the ball and it hit him in the face/eye. He’s been pulled from the game. Hopefully he’s ok.


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« Reply #256 on: August 03, 2019, 07:54:57 pm »
Unfortunate incident for Derek Fisher in Baltimore. He was playing right and came running in to catch a pop fly in short right. He missed the ball and it hit him in the face/eye. He’s been pulled from the game. Hopefully he’s ok.


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« Reply #257 on: August 03, 2019, 07:57:41 pm »
Unfortunate incident for Derek Fisher in Baltimore. He was playing right and came running in to catch a pop fly in short right. He missed the ball and it hit him in the face/eye. He’s been pulled from the game. Hopefully he’s

Saw he had been taken but did not know why.
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Not unusual for Fisher. Not a good OFer.
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« Reply #261 on: August 05, 2019, 01:46:57 pm »
Not unusual for Fisher. Not a good OFer.

Yeah,  but he doesn't routinely catch flyballs with his face,  does he?

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« Reply #262 on: August 05, 2019, 02:20:15 pm »
Yeah,  but he doesn't routinely catch flyballs with his face,  does he?

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« Reply #264 on: August 07, 2019, 02:28:37 pm »
Not unusual for Fisher. Not a good OFer.

He hit his first homerun as a Blue Jay today.
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He hit his first homerun as a Blue Jay today.

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« Reply #266 on: August 08, 2019, 05:45:42 pm »
He hit his first homerun as a Blue Jay today.

Happy for him. I wish him well. He had a chance here, but he blew it through subpar performance. Maybe he changes his swing and becomes the next J.D. Martinez. I wouldn't care one bit, because we needed the pitching at the time.
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« Reply #267 on: August 08, 2019, 06:42:19 pm »
Happy for him. I wish him well. He had a chance here, but he blew it through subpar performance. Maybe he changes his swing and becomes the next J.D. Martinez. I wouldn't care one bit, because we needed the pitching at the time.

Yes!  This thread helps fans follow and celebrate the success of ex-Astros.  Who wasn't surprised by the players the Jays were willing to trade for him?  He ended up helping his old team while finally getting a chance to play.  Is that going to be the same story for Mayfield?

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Yes!  Doesn't the thread about ex-Astros indicate well wishes for at least some ex-Astros.  Who wasn't surprised by the players the Jays were willing to trade for him?  He ended up helping his old team while finally getting a chance to play.  Is that going to be the same story for Mayfield?

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A prevailing view I've heard among the punditry is that the Astros would have "won" the trade even if it were Fisher for Biagani straight up.
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A prevailing view I've heard among the punditry is that the Astros would have "won" the trade even if it were Fisher for Biagani straight up.

Three for Fisher, including Aaron Sanchez, is mind-boggling.
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« Reply #271 on: August 09, 2019, 11:45:33 am »
Three for Fisher, including Aaron Sanchez, is mind-boggling.

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« Reply #272 on: August 09, 2019, 04:27:17 pm »
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« Reply #273 on: August 09, 2019, 04:49:35 pm »
Luhnow has said it's "good business" for the traded guys to do well, so I root for all of them.

Was watching the White Sox / A's today and they showed that the top five best ERAs among AL starters since April 26th are Cole, Morton, Fiers, Verlander, Miley.

What's the deal with Fiers? Seems Oakland fixed him as much as we fixed those other guys.



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« Reply #274 on: August 09, 2019, 05:03:07 pm »
Was watching the White Sox / A's today and they showed that the top five best ERAs among AL starters since April 26th are Cole, Morton, Fiers, Verlander, Miley.

What's the deal with Fiers? Seems Oakland fixed him as much as we fixed those other guys.

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« Reply #275 on: August 09, 2019, 05:16:06 pm »
Was watching the White Sox / A's today and they showed that the top five best ERAs among AL starters since April 26th are Cole, Morton, Fiers, Verlander, Miley.

What's the deal with Fiers? Seems Oakland fixed him as much as we fixed those other guys.




If Fiers hadn't had a godawful first month or so, and pitched like he has all year, all year, he would legitimately be in the Cy Young conversation.

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« Reply #276 on: August 09, 2019, 05:18:08 pm »
If Fiers hadn't had a godawful first month or so, and pitched like he has all year, all year, he would legitimately be in the Cy Young conversation.

I have no idea what happened (i.e. did they tell him to change anything?), but I'm happy for the guy.  He pitched his ass off for about 2 months in '17 and really saved the pitching staff.

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If Fiers hadn't had a godawful first month or so, and pitched like he has all year, all year, he would legitimately be in the Cy Young conversation.

I have no idea what happened (i.e. did they tell him to change anything?), but I'm happy for the guy.  He pitched his ass off for about 2 months in '17 and really saved the pitching staff.

Good for Mike!

On a slow day, could a player that graciously "gave up" their place on the roster for an ex-Astros count?  If so, then new Cubbie Lucroy had a 3 for 5 day - a 2B and 2 RBI - to go w/ 2 catcher interference calls.  (Kemp did not play.)
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Good for Mike!

On a slow day, could a player that graciously "gave up" their place on the roster for an ex-Astros count?  If so, then new Cubbie Lucroy had a 3 for 5 day - a 2B and 2 RBI - to go w/ 2 catcher interference calls.  (Kemp did not play.)

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It's a stretch, I know....

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It's a stretch, I know....

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« Reply #283 on: August 09, 2019, 06:44:06 pm »
He's talking about Stassi I think.
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He's talking about Stassi I think.

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He's talking about Stassi I think.

TY, Chuck.  I am sometimes hard to follow.

Apparently Luhnow knew the Angels were looking to replace Lucroy, making a potential landing spot for Stassi and a reward in the form of two prospects.   It was something when nothing seemed likely for a player that the Astros had DFA - Luhnow's magic on a smaller scale.
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« Reply #286 on: August 09, 2019, 08:29:38 pm »
WTF?

Sorry, JimR, I should have mentioned Stassi as Lucroy's replacement. 
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« Reply #287 on: August 09, 2019, 10:21:42 pm »
Was watching the White Sox / A's today and they showed that the top five best ERAs among AL starters since April 26th are Cole, Morton, Fiers, Verlander, Miley.

What's the deal with Fiers? Seems Oakland fixed him as much as we fixed those other guys.
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« Reply #288 on: August 09, 2019, 10:38:45 pm »
TY, Chuck.  I am sometimes hard to follow.

Apparently Luhnow knew the Angels were looking to replace Lucroy, making a potential landing spot for Stassi and a reward in the form of two prospects.   It was something when nothing seemed likely for a player that the Astros had DFA - Luhnow's magic on a smaller scale.

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I didn't know that I had to try to follow you. Are you capable of clearly articulating your points? If not, don't post it.
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« Reply #290 on: August 10, 2019, 05:50:34 am »
TY, Chuck.  I am sometimes hard to follow.

Apparently Luhnow knew the Angels were looking to replace Lucroy, making a potential landing spot for Stassi and a reward in the form of two prospects.   It was something when nothing seemed likely for a player that the Astros had DFA - Luhnow's magic on a smaller scale.

“Apparently, Luhnow knew....”
Do you know he knew Lucroy was about to go? Do you know LAA did not approach him first? Do you know LAA was only one of many calls Luhnow made trying to trade Stassi? I totally agree Luhnow got two somethings for nothing, but did Luhnow know about Lucroy or was he surprised if/when LAA told him Lucroy was headed to DFA?

I have known chuck is smarter than I all along, but this episode proves it. I could not have followed your post to Stassi in a million tries. I am going to go back and read it again.
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« Reply #291 on: August 10, 2019, 09:42:07 am »
Boy!  I get it!  It is so frustrating to try to understand someone who thinks, constructs sentences with undefined pronouns, sometimes does not even complete sentences, and regularly talks in ways I don't understand.  Very aggravating!  I feel stupid b/c I don't understand!  Don't like feeling stupid! 

One big difference b/t that situation and OWA posts is that I can't ignore them.  Communication keeps a relationship alive.  I have to listen and ask questions until I do understand b/c I have to "follow" her.  For some reason, my questions aggravate her.  It's been a challenge we have both faced for almost 50 years.  (It is a challenge that someone new and different brings to a group like OWA that has known each other very well for more than a decade.) 

Apparently, Luhnow knew....”
Do you know he knew Lucroy was about to go? Do you know LAA did not approach him first? Do you know LAA was only one of many calls Luhnow made trying to trade Stassi? I totally agree Luhnow got two somethings for nothing, but did Luhnow know about Lucroy or was he surprised if/when LAA told him Lucroy was headed to DFA?

I have known chuck is smarter than I all along, but this episode proves it. I could not have followed your post to Stassi in a million tries. I am going to go back and read it again.

Of course not.  I thot that "apparently" make it clear that I did not know.  Great questions!  Who knows any of that? 

It would not be a stretch to view at least some OWA posts as being based on assumptions, certainly mine.  It's fun to guess.  Some are more convincing than others and some are based more on knowledge than cogitation.  Sometimes the excitement of the trading deadline may generate so many guesses that the server breaks down from all the hot wind.  But that's part of the fun - and the challenge for Waldo. 

Unless I link to a source to someone that actually "knows" - or at least convinces me that they "really" know - most of the time I am guessing (too) about the game and team we love so much.   That's the only thing I know: I share the love for baseball and the Astros and am thankful for MLBTV and this site.  I wonder about a lot of things...

It was a boring off day, not much to talk about, especially on this thread after the trade deadline cause there are not going to be many more ex-Astros for a while.  My post was an attempt to inject a little humor (& action) by expanding the topic from just including ex-Astros to including the players that were released, traded, etc. to make a place for our guys.  It did not work.  I should have made it more clear by referencing Stassi, but thot/hoped that mentioning Lucroy's move to the Cubbies would be enuf.  Another assumption.  Usually when that happens, there are crickets.  Appreciate the feedback, JimR, Mr. Happy, and Coach Chuck.

I hate having to explain my jokes, but it happens sometimes.  It's a constant reminder that I have work to do. 
 
PS: JimR, I appreciate the effort of taking a 2nd read of the post!

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« Reply #292 on: August 10, 2019, 09:58:00 am »
Boy!  I get it!  It is so frustrating to try to understand someone who thinks, constructs sentences with undefined pronouns, sometimes does not even complete sentences, and regularly talks in ways I don't understand.  Very aggravating!  I feel stupid b/c I don't understand!  Don't like feeling stupid! 

One big difference b/t that situation and OWA posts is that I can't ignore them.  Communication keeps a relationship alive.  I have to listen and ask questions until I do understand b/c I have to "follow" her.  For some reason, my questions aggravate her.  It's been a challenge we have both faced for almost 50 years.  (It is a challenge that someone new and different brings to a group like OWA that has known each other very well for more than a decade.) 

Of course not.  I thot that "apparently" make it clear that I did not know.  Great questions!  Who knows any of that? 

It would not be a stretch to view at least some OWA posts as being based on assumptions, certainly mine.  It's fun to guess.  Some are more convincing than others and some are based more on knowledge than cogitation.  Sometimes the excitement of the trading deadline may generate so many guesses that the server breaks down from all the hot wind.  But that's part of the fun - and the challenge for Waldo. 

Unless I link to a source to someone that actually "knows" - or at least convinces me that they "really" know - most of the time I am guessing (too) about the game and team we love so much.   That's the only thing I know: I share the love for baseball and the Astros and am thankful for MLBTV and this site.  I wonder about a lot of things...

It was a boring off day, not much to talk about, especially on this thread after the trade deadline cause there are not going to be many more ex-Astros for a while.  My post was an attempt to inject a little humor (& action) by expanding the topic from just including ex-Astros to including the players that were released, traded, etc. to make a place for our guys.  It did not work.  I should have made it more clear by referencing Stassi, but thot/hoped that mentioning Lucroy's move to the Cubbies would be enuf.  Another assumption.  Usually when that happens, there are crickets.  Appreciate the feedback, JimR, Mr. Happy, and Coach.

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PS: JimR, I appreciate the effort of taking a 2nd read of the post!

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« Reply #293 on: August 10, 2019, 10:10:23 am »
Paul Sandoval (from the Maldonado trade) had a great debut on Monday.  He pulled a Sneed, eating 5 innings w/ 90 pitches - giving up no HR's - in a loss!

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« Reply #294 on: August 10, 2019, 10:14:57 am »
To a lot of folks in my life, Jim R. is Coach. Maybe there is another one around here. Dunno.

TY, JimR.  Should have thanked Chuck, rather than Coach, for the feedback.
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« Reply #295 on: August 10, 2019, 10:24:43 am »
Paul Sandoval (from the Maldonado trade) had a great debut on Monday.  He pulled a Sneed, eating 5 innings w/ 90 pitches - giving up no HR's - in a loss!

Well done!

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« Reply #297 on: August 10, 2019, 02:55:37 pm »
Patrick, and that LAA trade was in 2018. Kemp to the Cubs in 2019 for Maldonado.
TY for your correction and patience, JimR.
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« Reply #298 on: August 10, 2019, 10:39:12 pm »
I don't know how smart I am but I do seem to have a certain facility with the chaotic.

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« Reply #299 on: August 11, 2019, 06:29:41 am »
I don't know how smart I am but I do seem to have a certain facility with the chaotic.

Comes in right handy if you happen to have a five year old running loose around your house.

That's a huge gift, Chuck. 

Life makes it hard to focus at times - most of the time - and it's easy to miss what is really important.  Only one of our grand kids is under five,  They grow up really fast and will soon reach the point at which they no longer want much of our attention.  I have to remind myself that while it is easier to type on a computer keyboard than to listen to and play with them, it may not be as rewarding in the long run.  Some of our grand kids call to have us come and play with them.  That's a huge gift also.  I know they can wear you out, enjoy them while you can.  (We have a bag of games in the back of our van, just in case.)

TY for taking the time to read and explain my cryptic post.
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« Reply #300 on: August 11, 2019, 08:09:39 am »
I never had the privilege of playing for you, but over the past over 20 years, you've become Coach to me. Of course, my coaches are now deceased. But I've learned more baseball here than I learned from any coach I had (including a former big league pitcher), by a factor of 10 at least.

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« Reply #301 on: August 11, 2019, 08:19:35 am »
That's a huge gift, Chuck. 

Life makes it hard to focus at times - most of the time - and it's easy to miss what is really important.  Only one of our grand kids is under five,  They grow up really fast and will soon reach the point at which they no longer want much of our attention.  I have to remind myself that while it is easier to type on a computer keyboard than to listen to and play with them, it may not be as rewarding in the long run.  Some of our grand kids call to have us come and play with them.  That's a huge gift also.  I know they can wear you out, enjoy them while you can.  (We have a bag of games in the back of our van, just in case.)

TY for taking the time to read and explain my cryptic post.
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« Reply #302 on: August 11, 2019, 08:25:10 am »
Snuff-you really seem like a great dude. Don't try so hard. You're fine. You're right; you're blessed with your family.

Good advice from Happy, Snuffy. Relax. This place can be tough at times, but welcomes knowledgeable Astros fans. You seem to be one.
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« Reply #303 on: August 11, 2019, 02:02:19 pm »
I am amazed at the traded Astros guys who are in MLB rotations, in just the last two days these former Astros made a start:

V. Velasquez - Phillies
Adrian Houser - Brewers
Joe Musgrove - Pirates
Folty - Braves
Lyles - Brewers

This is not counting the FA, released, etc... or relievers.

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« Reply #304 on: August 11, 2019, 02:57:02 pm »
I am amazed at the traded Astros guys who are in MLB rotations, in just the last two days these former Astros made a start:

V. Velasquez - Phillies
Adrian Houser - Brewers
Joe Musgrove - Pirates
Folty - Braves
Lyles - Brewers

This is not counting the FA, released, etc... or relievers.

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« Reply #306 on: August 12, 2019, 10:12:12 am »
Definitely an underrated contribution to that season.

He was the 2017 team leader in games started.
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« Reply #307 on: August 12, 2019, 11:06:03 am »
By my calculations the Astros have had 17 starts this year from pitchers in which they originally signed.

Armenteros and James 1 ea.

Valdez, Martin and Urquidy  5 ea.

assuming the Astros are the original signing team on each.                             

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« Reply #308 on: August 12, 2019, 11:35:55 am »
By my calculations the Astros have had 17 starts this year from pitchers in which they originally signed.

Armenteros and James 1 ea.

Valdez, Martin and Urquidy  5 ea.

assuming the Astros are the original signing team on each.                             

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« Reply #309 on: August 12, 2019, 02:17:02 pm »
Good advice from Happy, Snuffy. Relax. This place can be tough at times, but welcomes knowledgeable Astros fans. You seem to be one.

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« Reply #310 on: August 12, 2019, 03:01:10 pm »
Josh Rojas already called up by DBacks

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« Reply #311 on: August 12, 2019, 03:09:10 pm »
Josh Rojas already called up by DBacks

That probably would not have happened here.  Hope he does well.
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That probably would not have happened here.  Hope he does well.

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« Reply #315 on: August 13, 2019, 07:41:07 am »
Josh Rojas already called up by DBacks

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« Reply #316 on: August 13, 2019, 08:36:25 am »
Thanks, MusicMan, JimR, and Happy,
I need to remember OWA is a family; to post only when rested & it has been proof read; and not to pretend I have a blazing fastball....
If I go geezer and start talking about my family, shoot me.

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« Reply #317 on: August 13, 2019, 09:36:56 am »
Actually, the good family story that involves a baseball or Astros connection is welcomed on my end.
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« Reply #318 on: August 14, 2019, 09:08:49 pm »
White on the injured list after going 1-22 with the Dodgers.
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« Reply #319 on: August 14, 2019, 10:28:46 pm »
White on the injured list after going 1-22 with the Dodgers.

Hate that!  10-day IL  Wonder if his right Trapezius Strain could explain some of his struggles at the plate.  Did Bregman's HBP get part of his trap?.
White's replacement, Kyle Garlick, has a story that is similar to White's.  Good stuff  - a 28th round pick as a college senior w/ a $1K signing bonus.
Leaves me wanting to pull for both of them, but the ex-Astro 1st.
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« Reply #320 on: August 15, 2019, 09:57:58 am »
Hate that!  10-day IL  Wonder if his right Trapezius Strain could explain some of his struggles at the plate.  Did Bregman's HBP get part of his trap?.
White's replacement, Kyle Garlick, has a story that is similar to White's.  Good stuff  - a 28th round pick as a college senior w/ a $1K signing bonus.
Leaves me wanting to pull for both of them, but the ex-Astro 1st.

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« Reply #321 on: August 15, 2019, 10:08:08 am »
Hey, maybe step it down a notch?

People are allowed to care about shit other than the 25 man roster.

There are several posters posting dumber shit than this that don't get roasted repeatedly. Dude loves baseball. That's not a bad thing.
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« Reply #322 on: August 15, 2019, 10:43:51 am »
Hey, maybe step it down a notch?

People are allowed to care about shit other than the 25 man roster.

There are several posters posting dumber shit than this that don't get roasted repeatedly. Dude loves baseball. That's not a bad thing.

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« Reply #323 on: August 15, 2019, 10:56:46 am »
Why the f are you concerned about this? We have problems enough of our own.

(Added later)  No worries, JimR, and no doubt that you know and love this game and the Stros.

Baseball finds a way to keep us all humble.  Balls & strikes are currently being called by human beings.  It is easy to forget that the game is played by human beings also, including some with crying one-year-olds at home. 

They are not robots and, like us, screw up at times.  No one bats 1.000 or just throws strikes.  There will be more losses and may be more injuries, who knows.  Thinned by recent trades, the depth of the organization will be tested.  I well remember the thrill of beating a team that either just won the WS or was heading toward being in the next one.  Those wins felt like playoff wins, b/c that was the closest we thot we would ever get to seeing the team get to the WS, much less win it all.

It's fun seeing long shots like White and Garlick make the show, and even seeing Nova continue his run of great pitching w/ a CG win against the good guys!  You have to appreciate a well-pitched game, just like a great play in the OF, w/ a tip of the hat.  Hope you can chill a bit and enjoy some of the "rest of the story" behind the games.  It's a LONG season. 

I believe there's another game today.  JimR, let's hang on and see what happens....
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« Reply #324 on: August 15, 2019, 11:03:47 am »
(Added later)  No worries, JimR, and no doubt that you know and love this game and the Stros.

Baseball finds a way to keep us all humble.  Balls & strikes are currently being called by human beings.  It is easy to forget that the game is played by human beings also, including some with crying one-year-olds at home. 

They are not robots and, like us, screw up at times.  No one bats 1.000 or just throws strikes.  There will be more losses and may be more injuries, who knows.  Thinned by recent trades, the depth of the organization will be tested.  I well remember the thrill of beating a team that either just won the WS or was heading toward being in the next one.  Those wins felt like playoff wins, b/c that was the closest we thot we would ever get to seeing the team get to the WS, much less win it all.

It's fun seeing long shots like White and Garlick make the show, and even seeing Nova continue his run of great pitching w/ a CG win against the good guys!  You have to appreciate a well-pitched game, just like a great play in the OF, w/ a tip of the hat.  Hope you can chill a bit and enjoy some of the "rest of the story" behind the games.  It's a LONG season. 

I believe there's another game today.  JimR, let's hang on and see what happens....

Snuffy, I have been involved in baseball since I was 8 years old. If you believe my parents, my dad started rolling a baseball to me when I was 1. I certainly know this is a long season and there always is another game. I apologized for snapping at you but not for the way I feel about players no longer on the Astros. I wish them no harm, but I know longer root for them.
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« Reply #325 on: August 15, 2019, 11:16:08 am »
Snuffy, I have been involved in baseball since I was 8 years old. If you believe my parents, my dad started rolling a baseball to me when I was 1. I certainly know this is a long season and there always is another game. I apologized for snapping at you but not for the way I feel about players no longer on the Astros. I wish them no harm, but I know longer root for them.
Luv ya, JimR.  Not trying to convert you, just want you to survive this season and many more....
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« Reply #326 on: August 15, 2019, 11:20:49 am »
Luv ya, JimR.  Not trying to convert you, just want you to survive this season and many more....

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« Reply #327 on: August 15, 2019, 11:22:46 am »
Survive this season? Oh, my.

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« Reply #328 on: August 15, 2019, 01:19:57 pm »
Survive this season? Oh, my.

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« Reply #329 on: August 15, 2019, 01:23:30 pm »
2013 says hi.

Yeah, his comment was pretty funny. The early days in the ‘60s say hi also.
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« Reply #330 on: August 15, 2019, 03:16:45 pm »
Yeah, his comment was pretty funny. The early days in the ‘60s say hi also.

The early days never got long to me since I was 10ish and in Little League and couldn't get but one ML baseball game a week on tv...usually the Yankees of course. I listened to every Colt .45 game I could on the radio. We got a Sunday game on the tube when they were on the road so about two televised games a month.

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