Author Topic: College Football 2018 (Read 7356 times)

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **on:** October 21, 2018, 08:18:20 am »

The Purdue upset of Ohio State was so beautiful on several layers. The Tyler Trent story is both heart breaking and heart warming.

austro · « **Reply #1 on:** October 21, 2018, 08:46:52 am »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 21, 2018, 08:18:20 am

The Purdue upset of Ohio State was so beautiful on several layers. The Tyler Trent story is both heart breaking and heart warming.

I'll bet the Urban Meyer press conference afterward was fun.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #2 on:** October 21, 2018, 01:48:47 pm »

Quote from: austro on October 21, 2018, 08:46:52 am

I'll bet the Urban Meyer press conference afterward was fun.

It's been a real treat to be up here in Buckeye country for that debacle. There's been a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth, including accusations that Urban needs some better defensive coaches. I told them that this indeed was some feat. Not only did they break their streak against Purdue of twenty-gazillion games, but they managed to turn a 29 point favorite into a 29 point loss. I comforted them with the knowledge that a 58 point swing doesn't just happen every day.

juliogotay · « **Reply #3 on:** October 21, 2018, 05:34:09 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 21, 2018, 08:18:20 am

The Purdue upset of Ohio State was so beautiful on several layers. The Tyler Trent story is both heart breaking and heart warming.

I saw Tom Rinaldi's feature on College Gameday yesterday on this young man (Trent). Rinaldi's pieces often bring a tear to my eye but this one was really tough. The pain the young man was enduring was palatable. Not to mention the agony of his parents and family. Cancer sux.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #4 on:** October 21, 2018, 06:21:50 pm »

Leave it to Brother Carville. Forever LSU!

austro · « **Reply #5 on:** December 01, 2018, 11:45:12 am »

Kris Boyd's selection as All Big 12 is a triumph of hype over production. He is rarely near his receiver when the ball arrives.

juliogotay · « **Reply #6 on:** December 01, 2018, 01:00:53 pm »

Quote from: austro on December 01, 2018, 11:45:12 am

Kris Boyd's selection as All Big 12 is a triumph of hype over production. He is rarely near his receiver when the ball arrives.

I won't be sorry to see Boyd go.

Lefty · « **Reply #7 on:** December 01, 2018, 01:05:26 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on December 01, 2018, 01:00:53 pm

I won't be sorry to see Boyd go.

As long as he promises to take dumbass Hager with him.

austro · « **Reply #8 on:** December 01, 2018, 01:05:38 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on December 01, 2018, 01:00:53 pm

I won't be sorry to see Boyd go.

Davis, on the other hand, is a stud. I like Sterns, too, but I don't think he's fast enough for free safety.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #9 on:** December 01, 2018, 06:38:33 pm »

I think Murray might have just won the Heisman.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #10 on:** December 01, 2018, 06:57:08 pm »

Georgia fake punts themselves out of Mythical National Championship contention.

austro · « **Reply #11 on:** December 01, 2018, 08:06:18 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on December 01, 2018, 06:57:08 pm

Georgia fake punts themselves out of Mythical National Championship contention.

That was just about the poorest decision I've seen in a while. 4th and 11 at midfield? What were they thinking?

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #12 on:** December 01, 2018, 10:05:15 pm »

Quote from: austro on December 01, 2018, 08:06:18 pm

That was just about the poorest decision I've seen in a while. 4th and 11 at midfield? What were they thinking?

And it was one of the most half assed fakes you'll ever see.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #13 on:** December 02, 2018, 08:35:26 am »

Quote from: Lefty on December 01, 2018, 01:05:26 pm

As long as he promises to take dumbass Hager with him.

This!

juliogotay · « **Reply #14 on:** December 02, 2018, 09:47:40 am »

Quote from: VirtualBob on December 02, 2018, 08:35:26 am

This!

Ditto.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #15 on:** December 08, 2018, 08:27:48 pm »

Murray wins the Heisman. Murray and Mayfield, two Texas High School products who transferred to OU from Texas colleges. Damn Sooners.

Lefty · « **Reply #16 on:** December 09, 2018, 03:04:56 am »

Quote from: Col. Sphinx Drummond on December 08, 2018, 08:27:48 pm

Murray wins the Heisman. Murray and Mayfield, two Texas High School products who transferred to OU from Texas colleges. Damn Sooners.

There are 13 QBs from Texas high schools currently in the NFL. All of 1 of them went to UT, and Colt was a 5-year backup.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #17 on:** December 09, 2018, 07:49:23 am »

Quote from: Lefty on December 09, 2018, 03:04:56 am

There are 13 QBs from Texas high schools currently in the NFL. All of 1 of them went to UT, and Colt was a 5-year backup.

At least 14 if you count Carr (sophomore and junior year at Sugar Land). Mahomes, Stafford, Keenum, Luck , McCown Mayfield, Daniel, Dalton, Brees, Foles, Griffin, Tannehill, and McCoy

Lefty · « **Reply #18 on:** December 09, 2018, 03:52:41 pm »

Quote from: Col. Sphinx Drummond on December 09, 2018, 07:49:23 am

At least 14 if you count Carr (sophomore and junior year at Sugar Land). Mahomes, Stafford, Keenum, Luck , McCown Mayfield, Daniel, Dalton, Brees, Foles, Griffin, Tannehill, and McCoy

I kind of blocked the Carrs out of my Houston memory, but you are correct.

BlownRanger · « **Reply #19 on:** December 10, 2018, 09:27:53 am »

Quote from: Lefty on December 09, 2018, 03:04:56 am

There are 13 QBs from Texas high schools currently in the NFL. All of 1 of them went to UT, and Colt was a 5-year backup.

What's startling (or sickening, depending on your allegiance) is how many of them were not even recruited by UT.

jbm · « **Reply #20 on:** December 10, 2018, 10:36:54 am »

Quote from: BlownRanger on December 10, 2018, 09:27:53 am

What's startling (or sickening, depending on your allegiance) is how many of them were not even recruited by UT.

Were any of them, excluding Colt, recruited by Texas?

I've seen enough of Murray on the football field. I don't like the guy, but he really is a great college QB. I hope to see him flail at some breaking balls in CC or RR one day.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #21 on:** December 10, 2018, 10:44:21 am »

Quote from: jbm on December 10, 2018, 10:36:54 am

Were any of them, excluding Colt, recruited by Texas?

Stafford and Griffin were.

Brees wanted to go to A&M, but they weren't interested.

UT went all in on Garret Gilbert instead of Luck, though Luck may not have been interested anyway.

Manziel wanted to go to UT really bad, but they weren't interested in him either.

BlownRanger · « **Reply #22 on:** December 10, 2018, 11:18:30 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on December 10, 2018, 10:44:21 am

Stafford and Griffin were.

Brees wanted to go to A&M, but they weren't interested.

UT went all in on Garret Gilbert instead of Luck, though Luck may not have been interested anyway.

Manziel wanted to go to UT really bad, but they weren't interested in him either.

It's been reported that UT recruited Griffin solely as a DB.

jbm · « **Reply #23 on:** December 10, 2018, 11:36:23 am »

That was always my understanding as well. Same with Johnny Football.

Not very good evaluations.

jbm · « **Reply #24 on:** December 30, 2018, 02:47:21 pm »

To the UH folks here. What’s behind Major’s canning?

Is it just an evaluation of his coaching, or something more?

MusicMan · « **Reply #25 on:** December 30, 2018, 03:52:44 pm »

Quote from: jbm on December 30, 2018, 02:47:21 pm

To the UH folks here. What’s behind Major’s canning?

Is it just an evaluation of his coaching, or something more?

My outside impression:
1. Fertitta didn’t like the hire in the first place and wanted a bigger name.
2. The bowl debacle showed a severe lack of coaching.
3. They already had a handshake agreement with Holgorsen.

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Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #26 on:** December 30, 2018, 04:28:03 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on December 30, 2018, 03:52:44 pm

My outside impression:
1. Fertitta didn’t like the hire in the first place and wanted a bigger name.
2. The bowl debacle showed a severe lack of coaching.
3. They already had a handshake agreement with Holgorsen.

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In terms of #1, Tillman is the one who basically hired Applewhite. 2 is correct. Who knows on #3, but I hope you are right.

It was clear Major was in over his head. 0-3 in bowl games, and outscored 137-51. Here is a breakdown on Major's 2 seasons. https://gocoogs.com/major-applewhites-dismissal/

This year he started 7-1 and ended up losing 5 of 6 to end the year, ending with being humiliated, again, in a bowl game. I thought he was 100% coming back until the Army game, even then I still figured he'd be back because of the buyout. Losing Briles hurt too. Major has to be the worst coach ever in hiring assistant coaches. If he was back, he'd be on his 3rd OC and 3rd DC in 3 years. All but Briles getting fired for being absolutely terrible at their job.

Aside from his abysmal record in hiring coaches, he was a zero when it came to energizing the fan base and promoting the program. An absolute vanilla wafer. The antithesis of the previous coach.

MusicMan · « **Reply #27 on:** December 30, 2018, 04:52:30 pm »

My impression was that they hired Applewhite after missing on their bigger targets.

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Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #28 on:** December 30, 2018, 05:10:44 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on December 30, 2018, 04:28:03 pm

In terms of #1, Tillman is the one who basically hired Applewhite. 2 is correct. Who knows on #3, but I hope you are right.

It was clear Major was in over his head. 0-3 in bowl games, and outscored 137-51. Here is a breakdown on Major's 2 seasons. https://gocoogs.com/major-applewhites-dismissal/

This year he started 7-1 and ended up losing 5 of 6 to end the year, ending with being humiliated, again, in a bowl game. I thought he was 100% coming back until the Army game, even then I still figured he'd be back because of the buyout. Losing Briles hurt too. Major has to be the worst coach ever in hiring assistant coaches. If he was back, he'd be on his 3rd OC and 3rd DC in 3 years. All but Briles getting fired for being absolutely terrible at their job.

Aside from his abysmal record in hiring coaches, he was a zero when it came to energizing the fan base and promoting the program. An absolute vanilla wafer. The antithesis of the previous coach.

I agree with the above, except unless you count the interim coach for the bowl embarrassment, he'd only be on his second DC. They were plagued by injuries to key defensive players and losing King was the death knell, but in the end, Major was a dud.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #29 on:** December 30, 2018, 07:39:04 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on December 30, 2018, 03:52:44 pm

My outside impression:
2. The bowl debacle showed a severe lack of coaching.
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My impression was he didn't recruit well. I was at the bowl game and it sure looked like they were outclassed at every position.

BudGirl · « **Reply #30 on:** December 30, 2018, 08:54:31 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on December 30, 2018, 04:52:30 pm

My i
Quote from: MusicMan on December 30, 2018, 04:52:30 pm
My impression was that they hired Applewhite after missing on their bigger targets.

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mpression was that they hired Applewhite after missing on their bigger targets.

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Their big target was Lincoln Riley. Seems Riley made a good decision.

BudGirl · « **Reply #31 on:** December 30, 2018, 08:56:37 pm »

And I have a bad feeling that holgrem has some shit going on at WVU. I don't think they're going to be upset if he were to leave.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #32 on:** December 30, 2018, 08:57:32 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on December 30, 2018, 07:39:04 pm

My impression was he didn't recruit well. I was at the bowl game and it sure looked like they were outclassed at every position.

They were missing multiple starters at key positions, and no they don't have much depth. Of course, that's not unique to Applewhite or UH, it's pretty typical for schools of that type. They just rarely have much talent at the second team level.

My impression of Applewhite is that he was just underwhelming in every way. Not terrible, just was not going to take them anywhere, and it was obvious.

jbm · « **Reply #33 on:** December 30, 2018, 09:23:28 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on December 30, 2018, 08:56:37 pm

And I have a bad feeling that holgrem has some shit going on at WVU. I don't think they're going to be upset if he were to leave.

Holgorsen. You may be right about something going on at WVU (probably doesn’t enjoy the couch-burning MFers), but he’d be a good hire, IMO.

WVastro · « **Reply #34 on:** December 30, 2018, 10:22:38 pm »

Dana Holgorsen is a walking couch fire. Please take him UH. Morgantown doesn’t want him. He’s a mess personally and has chased off more top level recruits than he’s brought in. Enjoy.

juliogotay · « **Reply #35 on:** December 31, 2018, 10:33:55 am »

Quote from: WVastro on December 30, 2018, 10:22:38 pm

Dana Holgorsen is a walking couch fire. Please take him UH. Morgantown doesn’t want him. He’s a mess personally and has chased off more top level recruits than he’s brought in. Enjoy.

that's always been my impression, from afar, of Holgersen.

TerryPuhl21 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 31, 2018, 08:24:38 pm »

Is UH gonna pay Holgerson what he is making at West Virginia or are they hoping he will take less to come back???

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WVastro · « **Reply #37 on:** December 31, 2018, 10:12:35 pm »

It is spelled Holgorsen btw...

I sincerely hope all of you in Houston get used to spelling his name soon!

One good thing about his time here is that a local burrito place came up with a “Dirty Dana” burrito. It’s excellent.

Lefty · « **Reply #38 on:** January 01, 2019, 06:41:13 am »

Quote from: WVastro on December 31, 2018, 10:12:35 pm

One good thing about his time here is that a local burrito place came up with a “Dirty Dana” burrito. It’s excellent.

What's in it?

He did a good job of making OSU and WVU fun to watch (please hire a good DC though), UH needs some local buzz and people in the stands if they want a chance to get picked up by a real conference. Sampson is doing his part so far.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #39 on:** January 01, 2019, 10:59:58 am »

Quote from: Lefty on January 01, 2019, 06:41:13 am

What's in it?

He did a good job of making OSU and WVU fun to watch (please hire a good DC though), UH needs some local buzz and people in the stands if they want a chance to get picked up by a real conference. Sampson is doing his part so far.

Not all the way. See, Kiffin, Lane.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #40 on:** January 02, 2019, 12:10:34 am »

Quote from: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 21, 2018, 08:18:20 am

The Purdue upset of Ohio State was so beautiful on several layers. The Tyler Trent story is both heart breaking and heart warming.

The young man passed away today.

Duman · « **Reply #41 on:** January 07, 2019, 06:34:56 am »

Quote from: WVastro on December 30, 2018, 10:22:38 pm

Dana Holgorsen is a walking couch fire. Please take him UH. Morgantown doesn’t want him. He’s a mess personally and has chased off more top level recruits than he’s brought in. Enjoy.

I think you are going to enjoy Neil Brown in WV. Solid coach and appears to be a solid man, too. I live near Troy and no rumblings of any trouble down here.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #42 on:** January 07, 2019, 01:46:09 pm »

Quote from: Duman on January 07, 2019, 06:34:56 am

I think you are going to enjoy Neil Brown in WV. Solid coach and appears to be a solid man, too. I live near Troy and no rumblings of any trouble down here.

I concur. WV get the best end of that deal in my opinion.