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Re: DIRECTV streaming 2018
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2018, 10:59:30 am »
I have DTV through a dish, with a shitload of channels, and of course, weather and my continually growing trees do their bit.  I assume that the streaming service would allow me every channel I currently get, so when reception is lost and I turn to the Ipad DTV app, I am limited to a small subset of my subscribed channels.   Never understood that limitation.

I remember when I switched from U-verse back to DTV, the guy said the company was promoting that, as it took demand off their "pipes."  Maybe that's behind this odd deal: if I can watch through the dish, they don't want to make it easy to watch through the internet.

DTV Now is a TV-through-the-internet service, and you use a Smart TV or attached media device (Apple TV, Roku etc.)  to watch it on a regular TV, apps to watch on your handheld devices and it's available anywhere else on a web browser.  The channel line-ups are very different I suspect, especially at the low end for us cord-cutters, but you may be able to get all you want by buying one of their bigger packages.  In any event, weather and trees should not be an issue unless they also affect your internet service.

Lineup quirks aside, I'm very happy with streaming TV in general and DirectTV Now in particular.  As discussed above, though, access to Astros games may be an issue and may require you to buy them with a separate service/subscription.  It's very much a personal cost/benefit analysis.
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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2018, 11:48:16 am »
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« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2018, 11:53:14 am »
And meteorologically.

That's all in your head.
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« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2018, 12:02:08 pm »
DTV Now channel line up by package.
Seems cool until I got to the deal breaker that Sphinx alluded to: no AT&T Sportsnet.  Which is totally odd, you would think AT&T Sportsnet would be baseline; why did they acquire those regional sports networks if they are part of their packages.

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« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2018, 12:49:45 pm »
Seems cool until I got to the deal breaker that Sphinx alluded to: no AT&T Sportsnet.  Which is totally odd, you would think AT&T Sportsnet would be baseline; why did they acquire those regional sports networks if they are part of their packages.

It may be a deliberate decision for an abstract reason, such as satellite providers having a lock on major league sports subscription packages, so they don't think cord-cutters and dish-dumpers will be much of a market for them.  It may simply be a price consideration, in that adding a premium sports network blows up the pricing structure - again with cord-cutters looking to save money over full cable/ satellite packages.  It may be that AT&T sucks.

Regardless, you'd think they'd be able to offer it as an add-on.  HBO, Showtime etc. are avail;able this way, why not AT&T Sportsnet?  Essentially, the whole point of skinny packages is that you buy the programming you want without having to pay for all the dreck you don't.
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« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2018, 12:19:17 pm »
Update Update:  I remain happy with the DTV Now service.  The DVR remains in Beta, and does have the occasional quirk (like it won't delete a watched show, which is an annoyance with only 20 hours available).  AT&T, however...

...are about to get their shit dumped.  4 years ago, on the site where my house (and three others) now stand, were some crack-riddled apartments.  I inherited the original street number, which has turned into a bane as far as AT&T is concerned.  They are unable to connect me to the fiber service (that they destroyed my front yard installing) because my address has units.  I have tried multiple times to have this corrected by them, and each time their assurances that it is getting fixed have been for naught.  They even blamed USPS, and said I had to go there to get it fixed - so I did.  In December.  And, after spending an hour at the post office, I was shown that they have me down as a single home.

Meanwhile, now that I am no longer an existing Xfinity customer, I suddenly have available a smorgasbord of internet-only options with great speed and great prices.  I still have my own modem, too, so these deals look even more attractive as I have already taken the AT&T router off router duty because it sucked at it.

I have an (alleged) AT&T service manager on chat right now and my finger hovering over the "order service" button on Xfinity's website.  Free installation and a price locked-in for 24 months is very tempting.
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« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2018, 03:45:09 pm »
I have an (alleged) AT&T service manager on chat right now and my finger hovering over the "order service" button on Xfinity's website.  Free installation and a price locked-in for 24 months is very tempting.

The AT&T manager added nothing to the conversation.  Xfinity service ordered; self-installation kit on its way.

At $30/month (inc. fees and taxes) for 60mbps, it's ridiculous how much cheaper my overall set-up is now compared to 6 months ago.
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« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2018, 03:51:38 pm »
The AT&T manager added nothing to the conversation.  Xfinity service ordered; self-installation kit on its way.

At $30/month (inc. fees and taxes) for 60mbps, it's ridiculous how much cheaper my overall set-up is now compared to 6 months ago.

I get 1,000 mbps for $70. For $30 I could get 100 mbps. Just how expensive was it before?
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« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2018, 04:06:07 pm »
I get 1,000 mbps for $70. For $30 I could get 100 mbps. Just how expensive was it before?

I was paying $160 (plus taxes/fees) for Xfinity TV/Internet; I don't know what the contracted speed was.  I'm now paying $70 (inc. taxes/fees) for my skinny-TV and 60mbps internet.  I know 60mbps is plenty for us because we've been limping along with a 50mbps plan from AT&T that was delivering only 15-20mbps when is wasn't dropping out.

AT&T will do 1000mbps for $80/month ++, but that's if you have fiber (pauses to push another needle into an AT&T doll) and Xfinity is at $70/month ++.  I don't (think) I need to pay another $40/month ++ to get all that bandwidth that I don't need.  If I find 60mbps isn't enough, then I'll creep up the ladder, which is at least doable now for me with Xfinity.
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« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2019, 11:36:23 am »
FWIW, I finally cut the cord. Was paying ~$140/mo for Grande, $100/mo was digital cable.

Now I'm down to $40/mo with 300Mbps down/20Mbps up. I played around with Sling TV and PS Vue, both of which look good, but I just don't watch enough TV.

For now, I'm using Netflix and DVDs from the public library. I don't know about the Houston library, but the San Antonio public library lets you borrow up to 10 DVDs for months at a time, for free. It's perfect for my young kids that want Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network stuff and don't mind watching the same crap over and over again..
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« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2019, 12:44:38 pm »
Hello, my name is Noe and I'm a new cord cutter.

Actually, I'm in the process of cord cutting and doing research, I've settled on DirectTV Now as the internet provider of choice. Going to use a Ruku for the one television that really can wait because my wife uses that set to do her exercise training (the DVR is all she needs, so no real need for Ruku right now). The other two sets are smart tvs and I can use the apps that come with those sets. And we've decided to give our 55" set to my son who is going to be home from college (taking a year off) so he only wants it for his Switch.

That leaves our 60" set downstairs in the den and that is a smart tv. So for all intents and purposes, I'm cutting the cord soon.  That leaves me with one other measure to consider: High Speed Internet. As a work from home consultant/employee/contractor, I need the best speed available and most reliable. I currently use my cable modem to get 300 mps of speed. But as my techie friends always remind me, it's not what speed they offer, it's what speed you can get through your setup. Meaning if I'm on a shared wireless (so many devices in our house, including the smart tvs use the wireless), the speed I get drops. That's not good for the business needs, so I'm tethered to the modem to avoid sharing. My son is also tethered in his computer and that allows him to use his home-built gaming machine at maximum speeds as he can get. Wireless drops significantly if we don't tether. Even then, with a 300 mps service, the best speeds I get for my tethered desktop (two laptops are wireless) is Download 124 mps / 24 Upload. That's pretty fast for non-fiber speeds. So my choice is this: Remain with my cable company for only the internet/phone (I can drop the phone, we don't use it, all of us have cell phones we use instead, although our home phone is great way to avoid having our cell phones exposed to telemarketers and political messages in a way). or I can find another Internet provider who can match the speeds I currently use while tethered and possibly setup a better way to connect wireless around the house so I can get better speeds for the smart tv and laptops (five overall devices that are non-tethered).

Limey's adventures and updates have been a great resource as well.

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« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2019, 12:45:14 pm »
Hello, my name is Noe and I'm a new cord cutter.

Actually, I'm in the process of cord cutting and doing research, I've settled on DirectTV Now as the internet service of choice. Going to use a Ruku for the one television that really can wait because my wife uses that set to do her exercise training (the DVR is all she needs, so no real need for Ruku right now). The other two sets are smart tvs and I can use the apps that come with those sets. And we've decided to give our 55" set to my son who is going to be home from college (taking a year off) so he only wants it for his Switch.

That leaves our 60" set downstairs in the den and that is a smart tv. So for all intents and purposes, I'm cutting the cord soon.  That leaves me with one other measure to consider: High Speed Internet. As a work from home consultant/employee/contractor, I need the best speed available and most reliable. I currently use my cable modem to get 300 mps of speed. But as my techie friends always remind me, it's not what speed they offer, it's what speed you can get through your setup. Meaning if I'm on a shared wireless (so many devices in our house, including the smart tvs use the wireless), the speed I get drops. That's not good for the business needs, so I'm tethered to the modem to avoid sharing. My son is also tethered in his computer and that allows him to use his home-built gaming machine at maximum speeds as he can get. Wireless drops significantly if we don't tether. Even then, with a 300 mps service, the best speeds I get for my tethered desktop (two laptops are wireless) is Download 124 mps / 24 Upload. That's pretty fast for non-fiber speeds. So my choice is this: Remain with my cable company for only the internet/phone (I can drop the phone, we don't use it, all of us have cell phones we use instead, although our home phone is great way to avoid having our cell phones exposed to telemarketers and political messages in a way). or I can find another Internet provider who can match the speeds I currently use while tethered and possibly setup a better way to connect wireless around the house so I can get better speeds for the smart tv and laptops (five overall devices that are non-tethered).

Limey's adventures and updates have been a great resource as well.

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« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2019, 03:48:31 pm »
Hello, my name is Noe and I'm a new cord cutter.
Meaning if I'm on a shared wireless (so many devices in our house, including the smart tvs use the wireless), the speed I get drops.

Hey Noe,

I'm not sure if your smart TV has an ethernet port, but assuming it does, and assuming it's next to an existing cable tap, you can use a MoCA adapter to get ethernet speed over coax cable wires.

Most importantly, you can get all that streaming smart TV traffic off the wireless. You will need to buy at least 2 adapters (one where your router is, and one wherever your smart TV is). I've been using the ActionTecs for about 3 years now, they work great:

https://www.actiontec.com/moca/

I just had to buy a couple more off Amazon, it was ~$80 for a set of 2 (older models). The speed maxes out at 100Mbps, but for my purposes (again, keeping streaming traffic from clogging up wireless) that's just fine.

Update: looks like Amazon is selling the ActionTec WCB3000N models for $20. Looks like they do both MoCA and wireless, so theoretically they should get the job done at a much cheaper price. I ordered a couple and will be sending back the previous order if they work as expected.
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« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2019, 04:58:29 pm »
Yo Gizz!

I'm actually thinking about adjusting my setup so I have two modems (one a router and another a relay). If I setup the second modem as a relay, I'll locate it near the smart tv (does have an ethernet port). Trying to spec the best config right now, but definitely what you said is worth the effort to tether the tv as well.

thanks!

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« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2019, 05:39:28 pm »
No problem, Noe! If you have an older house with existing cable taps (like me), MoCA is a no-brainer. My wife telecommuted for awhile and our wireless would routinely choke out during video conferences. I bought a MoCa adapter for her office (which already had a cable tap) and the problems went away instantly.

Coax cable itself is a great medium for signal transmission-better in many ways than UTP (aka phone or ethernet cabling). Of course, fiber is better if money is no object, but coax is good for ISP use (although not as good as fiber) and excellent for in-home use.
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« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2019, 12:00:12 pm »

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« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2019, 12:21:26 pm »
I’m much more interested in them finally setting up a Roku app.


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« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2019, 01:32:01 pm »
I’m much more interested in them finally setting up a Roku app.


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« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2019, 01:36:01 pm »
DTV Now is a TV-through-the-internet service, and you use a Smart TV or attached media device (Apple TV, Roku etc.)  to watch it on a regular TV, apps to watch on your handheld devices and it's available anywhere else on a web browser.  The channel line-ups are very different I suspect, especially at the low end for us cord-cutters, but you may be able to get all you want by buying one of their bigger packages.  In any event, weather and trees should not be an issue unless they also affect your internet service.

Lineup quirks aside, I'm very happy with streaming TV in general and DirectTV Now in particular.  As discussed above, though, access to Astros games may be an issue and may require you to buy them with a separate service/subscription.  It's very much a personal cost/benefit analysis.

What Limey is saying above applies to FuboTV. The cost analysis is about the same, somewhere in the neighborhood of 70-80 dollars all told if you include the SportsNet package with a TV package. About the same cost of a cable subscription, but without the SportsNet channel. With cable, you have to pay for device rental and all the supporting costs. So while you are in the same ballpark in spending, the bonus you get from cord cutting is anywhere/anytime viewing and of course with cord cutting comes the cutting of playback system rental costs as well (to convert coaxle to digital/HD). What you pay for cable can increase to about 120 dollars all told based on your need and then go up from there. With streaming, it's a one-time cost for the device (Roku, etc.) and then only the streaming cost from then on. Chrome casting will allow you to spend less on a device like Roku and use casting to the TV just like you use in a SmartTV... it's a casting from your wireless into an App of the Chrome device as if your TV is a smart TV. Most televisions nowadays have a USB slot to connect your ChromeCast device. With that you can then connect to FuboTV as if it's an app on a SmartTV and also if you have Plex, you can stream your own personal media (video, audio, etc.) plus connection to Plex partner channels (re: other streaming services).
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« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2019, 01:54:27 pm »
Correction: From the announcement (that I missed earlier)

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uboTV will carry AT&T SportsNet Southwest as part of its base fubo subscription package ($44.99 per month after a free, seven-day trial), which features 75+ channels, including 40+ channels that carry sports. Subscribers can watch on the web via https://fubo.tv and on Amazon Fire TV, Android TV, Apple TV, Chromecast, Roku and Android and iOS mobile devices.

This is huge, no additional cost other than to pick the streaming package you want, which includes the lowest streaming package of 44 dollars (with about 80 channels offered). This is really huge and beats the cable offering right out of the gate. Nice! Now a one-time purchase of Roku or AndroidTV will be even much more effective.