Author Topic: Astros at D-Backs May 6, 2018 (Read 4999 times)

Astros Fan in Big D · « **on:** May 06, 2018, 03:27:01 pm »

Happy 28th birthday to Altuve.

Astros down in order in the first.

Verlander gave up a single in the bottom of the inning with no damage 2 Ks.

austro · « **Reply #1 on:** May 06, 2018, 03:30:22 pm »

Bregman!

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #2 on:** May 06, 2018, 03:30:44 pm »

Bregman goes yard in the alley in right.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #3 on:** May 06, 2018, 03:31:32 pm »

I'm also fond of homers in the power alley.

Texifornia · « **Reply #4 on:** May 06, 2018, 03:55:16 pm »

Verlander looks dominant on "Gameday".
Still 1-0 Astros after 3

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #5 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:03:51 pm »

Quote from: Texifornia on May 06, 2018, 03:55:16 pm

Verlander looks dominant on "Gameday".
Still 1-0 Astros after 3

He's sharp.

Can't do pbp as Sunday parental duties are numerous.

Of course, Descalso drills a double to the wall in center as I type that.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #6 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:05:33 pm »

The Correa double was a bullet in the LF corner, the Reddick out was well struck too.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #7 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:14:21 pm »

Verlander gives up a double, gets 6-3 out, then a walk, finally F9 and a K ends the 4th.

He's over 50 pitches.

Texifornia · « **Reply #8 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:15:16 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on May 06, 2018, 04:05:33 pm

The Correa double was a bullet in the LF corner, the Reddick out was well struck too.

Verlander is getting his normal offensive support...

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #9 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:20:13 pm »

Verlander got a hit!
Verlander got a hit!

Nate in IA · « **Reply #10 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:20:38 pm »

That was the perfect swinging bunt.

austro · « **Reply #11 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:46:47 pm »

Lead-off triple by the birthday boy followed up by a Correa HBP sets the table. Then Reddick whiffs on a full count and Bregman meekly grounds into a double play and suddenly the inning is over and a sure thing turns into nothing. Grrrrrrrrr.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #12 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:47:08 pm »

That was a shitty way to handle runners on the corners with no outs.

austro · « **Reply #13 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:53:49 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on May 06, 2018, 04:47:08 pm

That was a shitty way to handle runners on the corners with no outs.

No kidding. I blame it on Reddick's shitty new beard (at least I think this particular cut is new).

MRaup · « **Reply #14 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:57:47 pm »

Horrendous interference call by the home plate umpire at 3rd costs the Astros a run now. Jesus Christ, that was embarrassingly bad.

astrojo · « **Reply #15 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:57:57 pm »

Not watching, what was the obstruction call that allowed Pollack to score?

austro · « **Reply #16 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:58:07 pm »

Bregman just got fucked on an interference call at 3B that allows the Pollock to score the go-ahead run after clobbering a ball of the CF wall.

austro · « **Reply #17 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:58:56 pm »

Quote from: astrojo on May 06, 2018, 04:57:57 pm

Not watching, what was the obstruction call that allowed Pollack to score?

Yes, but it was a horrible call. Pollock clearly lunged at Bregman to make contact before heading for home.

ETA: Sorry, I misread your question the first time. Pollock and the ball were arriving at the same time at 3rd, the ball hit Pollock and bounced away as he slid into Bregman. Bregman turned to go fetch the ball, Pollock scrambled to his feet, WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO BUMP INTO BREGMAN, and then headed for home, where he was tagged out.

doyce7 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 06, 2018, 04:58:59 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on May 06, 2018, 04:57:47 pm

Horrendous interference call by the home plate umpire at 3rd costs the Astros a run now. Jesus Christ, that was embarrassingly bad.

It was so fucking obvious too. Pollack should have been called out, not the other way

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MRaup · « **Reply #19 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:00:59 pm »

Quote from: astrojo on May 06, 2018, 04:57:57 pm

Not watching, what was the obstruction call that allowed Pollack to score?

Basically Pollack is sliding in to 3rd and the throw hits him, gets past Bregman. Pollack and Bregman collide, Pollack basically throws himself in to Bregman then heads home. Marwin blacking the play up fired home and got him. Interference called, though.

The Third Man · « **Reply #20 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:01:36 pm »

Repeating is hard.

austro · « **Reply #21 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:02:18 pm »

Quote from: The Third Man on May 06, 2018, 05:01:36 pm

Repeating is hard.

Especially when you try to do it without scoring.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #22 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:02:44 pm »

Pollock hip checked Bregman.

astrojo · « **Reply #23 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:03:44 pm »

Thanks for the clarification. Hopefully it will light a fire in the offense.

MRaup · « **Reply #24 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:06:04 pm »

I just cannot believe a major league umpire, even a very young one, makes that call. He was right on top of it too.

austro · « **Reply #25 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:15:36 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on May 06, 2018, 05:06:04 pm

I just cannot believe a major league umpire, even a very young one, makes that call. He was right on top of it too.

He didn't make any call at all in the initial contact at the bag (which was correct). The contact initiated by Pollock was very clearly the deciding factor for him. Not his best moment.

austro · « **Reply #26 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:15:54 pm »

I think it's time for the end of the Gattis era.

MRaup · « **Reply #27 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:15:58 pm »

Gattis is a fucking waste of a roster spot.

hostros7 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:16:08 pm »

How long can Gattis continue to be sent up there to flail futilely?

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austro · « **Reply #29 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:17:25 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on May 06, 2018, 05:16:08 pm

How long can Gattis continue to be sent up there to flail futilely?

I suspect he'll be gone by Memorial Day if he hasn't gone on a tear by then.

hostros7 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:19:14 pm »

Gattis needs to develop an “injury” so the Astros can call JD up and so that Gattis can get some time off and then make a few rehab starts in the minors.

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Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #31 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:23:41 pm »

BBGs punish the Astros for leaving Altuve on 3rd after a LEADOFF triple.

Heart of the lineup, nobody gets him in.

Btw radio guys didn't seem to disagree with the interference call. I haven't seen it yet but it was clearly terrible.

TerryPuhl21 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:25:12 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on May 06, 2018, 05:16:08 pm

How long can Gattis continue to be sent up there to flail futilely?

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I have definitely seen enough.

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Lefty · « **Reply #33 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:27:02 pm »

Quote from: austro on May 06, 2018, 05:02:18 pm

Especially when you try to do it without scoring.

Especially in May.

Lefty · « **Reply #34 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:28:08 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on May 06, 2018, 05:19:14 pm

Gattis needs to develop an “injury” so the Astros can call JD up and so that Gattis can get some time off and then make a few rehab starts in the minors.

I believe Gattis can be optioned.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #35 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:48:40 pm »

Quote from: Lefty on May 06, 2018, 05:28:08 pm

I believe Gattis can be optioned.

He can refuse an optional assignment.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #36 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:52:13 pm »

Situational hitting.

I'm gonna go punch something.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #37 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:55:24 pm »

Swing the fucking bat!!!!

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #38 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:56:27 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 06, 2018, 05:55:24 pm

Swing the fucking bat!!!!

No shit.

Took 2 FBs in his sweet spot.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #39 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:57:17 pm »

Just saw the interference replay.

Horseshit.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #40 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:58:31 pm »

Swing the fucking bat!!!

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #41 on:** May 06, 2018, 05:59:14 pm »

That 2-0 pitch was meat!

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #42 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:00:13 pm »

This is the worst ump in the history of baseball

hostros7 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:00:18 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on May 06, 2018, 05:57:17 pm

Just saw the interference replay.

Horseshit.

Like that strike three call against Marwin?

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doyce7 · « **Reply #44 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:00:51 pm »

How much did they pay this cocksucker?

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Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #45 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:01:07 pm »

And that's why you swing the bat 2-0.

Horrible call on "strike" 3.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #46 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:01:53 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 06, 2018, 06:00:13 pm

This is the worst ump in the history of baseball

He is horrible.

astrojo · « **Reply #47 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:02:23 pm »

Maybe we should have considered pitching around Pollack since he hit the winner last night and did all their damage today.

Edited to be clear, offense, not pitching is the glaring problem.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #48 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:02:47 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on May 06, 2018, 06:01:07 pm

And that's why you swing the bat 2-0.

Horrible call on "strike" 3.

Exactly. The reason you work the count is so that you can get a 2-0 fastball in the wheelhouse. Then you watch it go by with no intention of hittting the best pitch you’re gonna see.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #49 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:03:50 pm »

Every hitter on this team is consistently late on 90 mph fastballs down the middle.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #50 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:06:13 pm »

This offense is a train wreck.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #51 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:09:13 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on May 06, 2018, 06:06:13 pm

This offense is a train wreck.

What a mess.

Astros against
Angels: lost 2 of 3
Yankees 3 of 4
D-Backs: lost 2 of 3

4-6 on the 10 game homestand.

Barf.

The Spleen · « **Reply #52 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:17:20 pm »

They built up a strong record against bad teams.
Against good to very good teams they're out of their depth.
To repeat, the defending World Champions against a quality staff look like rookies getting their first look at big league pitching.

Some of this could have been foreseen, perhaps. Career bench players who had stepped up not being able to sustain that kind of performance. Gattis, a good but not great player reaching an age at which good but not great players often decline rapidly. But watching five All-Star caliber players, all healthy and at or near their prime years regress drastically all at once is Just. Fucking. Insane. If nothing changes, this is a .500 ballclub.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #53 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:19:47 pm »

Quote from: The Spleen on May 06, 2018, 06:17:20 pm

They built up a strong record against bad teams.
Against good to very good teams they're out of their depth.
To repeat, the defending World Champions against a quality staff look like rookies getting their first look at big league pitching.

Some of this could have been foreseen, perhaps. Career bench players who had stepped up not being able to sustain that kind of performance. Gattis, a good but not great player reaching an age at which good but not great players often decline rapidly. But watching five All-Star caliber players, all healthy and at or near their prime years regress drastically all at once is Just. Fucking. Insane. If nothing changes, this is a .500 ballclub.

It's certainly making me crazy.

Standing Altuve at third after a leadoff triple should be impossible for this lineup.

TerryPuhl21 · « **Reply #54 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:22:37 pm »

Quote from: The Spleen on May 06, 2018, 06:17:20 pm

They built up a strong record against bad teams.
Against good to very good teams they're out of their depth.
To repeat, the defending World Champions against a quality staff look like rookies getting their first look at big league pitching.

Some of this could have been foreseen, perhaps. Career bench players who had stepped up not being able to sustain that kind of performance. Gattis, a good but not great player reaching an age at which good but not great players often decline rapidly. But watching five All-Star caliber players, all healthy and at or near their prime years regress drastically all at once is Just. Fucking. Insane. If nothing changes, this is a .500 ballclub.

Gattis has to go today! Stop delaying this decision and DFA him already. Call JD back up.

Also, and this has been said here a hundred times, ditch the 13th pitcher and give yourself some more options with bats off the bench. Two days in a row we almost got caught with no other options. We were lucky last night and today didn’t go to extras. You don’t need 82 damn pitchers on the roster as long as your starters are performing like they are.

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DVauthrin · « **Reply #55 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:33:09 pm »

Quote from: The Spleen on May 06, 2018, 06:17:20 pm

They built up a strong record against bad teams.
Against good to very good teams they're out of their depth.
To repeat, the defending World Champions against a quality staff look like rookies getting their first look at big league pitching.

Some of this could have been foreseen, perhaps. Career bench players who had stepped up not being able to sustain that kind of performance. Gattis, a good but not great player reaching an age at which good but not great players often decline rapidly. But watching five All-Star caliber players, all healthy and at or near their prime years regress drastically all at once is Just. Fucking. Insane. If nothing changes, this is a .500 ballclub.

I understand the frustration with the offense, but if this starting rotation stays healthy, there’s no way the Astros finish as a .500 team. They give the team a chance to win every game, and there’s too much talent on the offense to scuffle all year.

DVauthrin · « **Reply #56 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:39:33 pm »

Quote from: TerryPuhl21 on May 06, 2018, 06:22:37 pm

Gattis has to go today! Stop delaying this decision and DFA him already. Call JD back up.

Also, and this has been said here a hundred times, ditch the 13th pitcher and give yourself some more options with bats off the bench. Two days in a row we almost got caught with no other options. We were lucky last night and today didn’t go to extras. You don’t need 82 damn pitchers on the roster as long as your starters are performing like they are.

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Agreed on both points. For some inexplicable reason, during his tenure as an Astro, Gattis has only hit well when he plays in the field.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #57 on:** May 06, 2018, 06:49:26 pm »

Even Fisher knew to attack a 2-0 meatball, Marwin.

Astros Fan in Big D · « **Reply #58 on:** May 06, 2018, 09:05:50 pm »

AJ's reaction to the interference call ("horseshit rule and a bad interpretation..."

https://twitter.com/JustinCToscano/status/993274225321377794?s=19

As bad as that was, 1 for 10 with runners in scoring position was the real problem.

And that one hit was in infield single that did not plate a run.

austro · « **Reply #59 on:** May 06, 2018, 09:22:06 pm »

Quote from: Astros Fan in Big D on May 06, 2018, 09:05:50 pm

As bad as that was, 1 for 10 with runners in scoring position was the real problem.

Springer, in particular, seems to have reverted to his swing-for-the-fences approach, and it's not helping.

juliogotay · « **Reply #60 on:** May 07, 2018, 10:01:44 am »

Quote from: DVauthrin on May 06, 2018, 06:33:09 pm

I understand the frustration with the offense, but if this starting rotation stays healthy, there’s no way the Astros finish as a .500 team. They give the team a chance to win every game, and there’s too much talent on the offense to scuffle all year.

I'm in this camp as well.

Knoxbanedoodle · « **Reply #61 on:** May 07, 2018, 10:34:52 am »

Ditto. The year-after-WS hangover thing appears neither to be bullshit nor something we're singularly immune to.

TerryPuhl21 · « **Reply #62 on:** May 07, 2018, 11:46:25 am »

Quote from: austro on May 06, 2018, 09:22:06 pm

Springer, in particular, seems to have reverted to his swing-for-the-fences approach, and it's not helping.

Could not agree more. Did he forget that quickly the World Series from last year and the adjustments he made?

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