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« on: March 16, 2018, 07:04:44 pm »
Ok, his spring has started to mirror his call up last year. Good start and then fade away. He’s 0-3 tonight and now batting .200. It seems like he’s about 1 for his last 15 (that’s a guess). I know with our deep lineup we can probably afford to give him a lengthy look into the season, but I myself am concerned. Seems like as the pitching has gotten better in the spring he has gotten worse.


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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2018, 11:39:50 am »
At least he walks quite a bit and is fast.  So he probably won't kill us even if it takes him awhile to get his batting average up.

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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2018, 11:59:49 am »
At least he walks quite a bit and is fast.  So he probably won't kill us even if it takes him awhile to get his batting average up.

The first step will be to get his contact rate up. Easier said than done.

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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2018, 12:14:34 pm »
So with Gurriel out it looks like one of these guys will be the odd man out: Fisher, White, Davis, and Stassi.

ETA: Was Kemp optioned?  If not then he's a real possibility.
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Re: Derek Fisher
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2018, 03:45:20 pm »
So with Gurriel out it looks like one of these guys will be the odd man out: Fisher, White, Davis, and Stassi.

ETA: Was Kemp optioned?  If not then he's a real possibility.

I think Stassi for sure is in.
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2018, 03:54:45 pm »
I think Stassi for sure is in.
I agree ... And I think Davis is in, too (ahead of Fisher).  White is probably the odd man out.

ETA:  Kemp might jump White and replace Fisher if they decide to cut bait on him.
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2018, 04:35:21 pm »
I agree ... And I think Davis is in, too (ahead of Fisher).  White is probably the odd man out.

ETA:  Kemp might jump White and replace Fisher if they decide to cut bait on him.

Everyone says 24 roster spots are set. Does that include Fisher? Yuli is out so we might be looking for 2?
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2018, 07:06:35 am »
Everyone says 24 roster spots are set. Does that include Fisher? Yuli is out so we might be looking for 2?

ETA: White, Davis, and Reed all had better STs than Fisher, but only Davis has played LF. Hence, Reed is gone, and we await the decisions on Davis and White. I think Davis stays too, to play 1B. Imo, we still are short one LH hitting OF/DH and one LHP in the pen. Maybe Fisher initially gets the OF job by default to wait on Tucker, but there is no ready solution in the organization for Sipp’s ineffectiveness. For me, putting a roster together is much more interesting stuff than contract length and amount.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2018, 07:42:24 am »
ETA: White, Davis, and Reed all had better STs than Fisher, but only Davis has played LF. Hence, Reed is gone, and we await the decisions on Davis and White. I think Davis stays too, to play 1B. Imo, we still are short one LH hitting OF/DH and one LHP in the pen. Maybe Fisher initially gets the OF job by default to wait on Tucker, but there is no ready solution in the organization for Sipp’s ineffectiveness. For me, putting a roster together is much more interesting stuff than contract length and amount.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2018, 07:55:58 am »
I agree that roster construction is the more interesting question, but let’s not pretend that contracts don’t affect that. If Sipp hadn’t received a three year contract, he wouldn’t be taking up a roster spot that might have otherwise been offered to another pitcher.


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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2018, 09:31:14 am »
I agree that roster construction is the more interesting question, but let’s not pretend that contracts don’t affect that. If Sipp hadn’t received a three year contract, he wouldn’t be taking up a roster spot that might have otherwise been offered to another pitcher.


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Has Luhnow signed a reliever to a 3-year contract since Sipp's?
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2018, 09:36:26 am »
Everyone says 24 roster spots are set. Does that include Fisher? Yuli is out so we might be looking for 2?

For opening day, 13 pitchers and (for sure)...
McCann
Gattis
Altuve
Correa
Bregman
Gonzales
Marisnick
Springer
Reddick

That's 9 of the 12 you need with Gurriel out.  So 3 spots are open for every day players right now.  White, Davis, Kemp, Fisher, and Stassi.  If Stassi's definitely in then that leaves 2 spots.
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2018, 09:37:53 am »
For opening day, 13 pitchers and (for sure)...
McCann
Gattis
Altuve
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Bregman
Gonzales
Marisnick
Springer
Reddick

That's 9 of the 12 you need with Gurriel out.  So 3 spots are open for every day players right now.  White, Davis, Kemp, Fisher, and Stassi.  If Stassi's definitely in then that leaves 2 spots.

Stassi Davis and Fisher seems the likeliest, with Davis going down once Yuli is back.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2018, 12:02:09 pm »
Stassi Davis and Fisher seems the likeliest, with Davis going down once Yuli is back.

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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2018, 12:40:06 pm »
Davis exhibiting poor fundamentals at first base on play in first inning of today's game.
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2018, 12:49:35 pm »
Davis exhibiting poor fundamentals at first base on play in first inning of today's game.

No good solution defensively  here but Reed. Scouts very critical of White’s defense there.
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2018, 12:54:03 pm »
No good solution defensively  here but Reed. Scouts very critical of White’s defense there.

Do these scouts share the organization's belief that White can also play middle-infield?
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2018, 01:06:25 pm »
On the ESPN broadcast today, AJ Hinch was just saying where Marwin plays will depend on who steps up. If Davis or White really claims 1b, Marwin will play LF. If Fisher or Marisnick really claims LF, Marwin will play more 1b. (And of course, Marwin will really play a little bit everywhere.)
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2018, 01:16:42 pm »
No good solution defensively  here but Reed. Scouts very critical of White’s defense there.

Davis has been nearly exclusively a third baseman in the minors.  There shouldn't be a surprise if he's still learning first base duties.
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2018, 01:18:40 pm »
On the ESPN broadcast today, AJ Hinch was just saying where Marwin plays will depend on who steps up. If Davis or White really claims 1b, Marwin will play LF. If Fisher or Marisnick really claims LF, Marwin will play more 1b. (And of course, Marwin will really play a little bit everywhere.)

The Rangers will probably start 3 lefties in the four games on opening weekend.  I expect a lot of Marisnick in that series.
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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2018, 01:34:03 pm »
Davis contributes an rbi sacrifice fly.
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2018, 01:36:46 pm »
Best solution for replacing Gurriel looks like Gonzalez at first, Marisnick in left.
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2018, 03:09:30 pm »
Best solution for replacing Gurriel looks like Gonzalez at first, Marisnick in left.

Then who replaces Marisnick? That would make a heck of a defensive outfield.
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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2018, 03:30:49 pm »
Then who replaces Marisnick? That would make a heck of a defensive outfield.

Kemp?  He could be the next Marwin in terms of versatility if he keeps hitting.
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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2018, 03:32:51 pm »
In my role as Hinch's trusted assistant, I will advise him to send Gonzalez to left and Marisnick back to the bench once Gurriel returns.
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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2018, 03:54:01 pm »
Do these scouts share the organization's belief that White can also play middle-infield?

Dunno. I am not talking to them; I am reading what they write.
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2018, 03:57:31 pm »
Do these scouts share the organization's belief that White can also play middle-infield?

If by “play,” you mean he knows where to stand, then i’ll agree with you.
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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2018, 04:34:05 pm »
If I was to bet, it would be on this hand.

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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2018, 04:34:30 pm »
If by “play,” you mean he knows where to stand, then i’ll agree with you.

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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2018, 07:45:32 pm »
I agree that roster construction is the more interesting question, but let’s not pretend that contracts don’t affect that. If Sipp hadn’t received a three year contract, he wouldn’t be taking up a roster spot that might have otherwise been offered to another pitcher.


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Not what I meant, but of course Sipp’s contract means he gets a longer look. The situation is made worse by the lack of alternatives who are LHP. I hope they are exploring a trade for Hand or maybe Britton. When will Britton be back?
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« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2018, 08:48:10 pm »
Not what I meant, but of course Sipp’s contract means he gets a longer look. The situation is made worse by the lack of alternatives who are LHP. I hope they are exploring a trade for Hand or maybe Britton. When will Britton be back?

Not until July.

I did notice that the AL has a real lack of left handed hitters. All the stars seem to be righties.


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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2018, 09:10:41 pm »
Not until July.

I did notice that the AL has a real lack of left handed hitters. All the stars seem to be righties.


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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2018, 09:16:39 pm »
Huh. I’d never thought of that, but you’re absolutely ri-, er, correct. Trout, Judge, Stanton, JD Martinez, Cruz, Beltre, Cabrera, Betts etc. The best LH hitters in the AL include a couple switch-hitters - Jose Ramirez, Lindor- plus Cano, Seager... I’m struggling to think of others.

Meanwhile the NL has Harper, Votto, Bellinger, Hosmer, C. Seager, Murphy, Rizzo...

There are more good LH hitters than this. Maybe not stars like Trout, but good enough to need an effective LH reliever.
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« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2018, 09:58:33 am »
Kemp?  He could be the next Marwin in terms of versatility if he keeps hitting.

Hinch on Kemp:  He's putting on a pretty good push late to be an extra bench player for us. He's battling Fisher for the spot in the outfield that I think most people thought coming into camp Fish was the leading candidate, if not the guy to do it.

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« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2018, 01:04:54 pm »
Stassi made the team.  It's down to two spots.
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« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2018, 01:20:12 pm »
JD with another home run today off Lance Lynn. 

I'm betting that Davis gets one of the two spots.  He has been the best hitter of the bunch and he can play multiple positions.
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« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2018, 02:01:37 pm »
JD with another home run today off Lance Lynn. 

I'm betting that Davis gets one of the two spots.  He has been the best hitter of the bunch and he can play multiple positions.

Now 2 homers today.
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« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2018, 02:01:44 pm »
JD with another home run today off Lance Lynn. 

I'm betting that Davis gets one of the two spots.  He has been the best hitter of the bunch and he can play multiple positions.

Davis appears to be a legit hitter.

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« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2018, 02:04:30 pm »
Davis appears to be a legit hitter.

Given his rather generous derrière, I’m hoping to call him Sir Hits-a-lot.


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« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2018, 02:31:32 pm »
Today, Davis with the 2 homers, Fisher with 3 hits, and White and Kemp hitless.
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« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2018, 02:54:17 pm »
Most important, the Astros had a no-hitter going into the 9th. 
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« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2018, 03:06:58 pm »
Fisher has gotten 5 hits since Hinch talked up Kemp.
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« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2018, 05:19:29 pm »
 I missed one of the three hits, but of the two hits I saw: one was a weak infield single to the left side of the infield, the other, a seeing eye single up the middle. Neither were hit hard. The little bit I have seen of him, he has not been able to drive the ball.

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« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2018, 05:24:02 pm »
Guduan (sp?) must have been good today
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« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2018, 05:31:50 pm »
I missed one of the three hits, but of the two hits I saw: one was a weak infield single to the left side of the infield, the other, a seeing eye single up the middle. Neither were hit hard. The little bit I have seen of him, he has not been able to drive the ball.

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« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2018, 07:16:03 pm »
Guduan (sp?) must have been good today

He was! I think most all those 4ks were swinging at stuff in the dirt.

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« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2018, 01:09:39 pm »
Not what I meant, but of course Sipp’s contract means he gets a longer look. The situation is made worse by the lack of alternatives who are LHP. I hope they are exploring a trade for Hand or maybe Britton. When will Britton be back?

Yesterday Sipp was good against the Nats with a walk and 3Ks in an inning.

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« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2018, 01:56:44 pm »
Fisher just turned his ankle on a double and was pulled from the game.


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« Reply #48 on: March 24, 2018, 03:43:48 pm »
Fisher just turned his ankle on a double and was pulled from the game.


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« Reply #49 on: March 24, 2018, 03:51:21 pm »
Fisher and Davis are in.  White and Kemp were optioned to AAA.
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« Reply #50 on: March 24, 2018, 03:53:32 pm »
Fisher and Davis are in.  White and Kemp were optioned to AAA.
That was the most appropriate by spring training stats. I hope that Davis doesn’t crap out like White did.
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« Reply #51 on: March 24, 2018, 05:37:10 pm »
That was the most appropriate by spring training stats. I hope that Davis doesn’t crap out like White did.

I hope Hinch gets Davis some ABs.

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« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2018, 06:12:27 pm »
I hope Hinch gets Davis some ABs.
I think that he’s got 10-15 games to show something.
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« Reply #53 on: March 24, 2018, 09:12:31 pm »
I think that he’s got 10-15 games to show something.

I see something in Davis. He frequently hits the ball hard.

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« Reply #54 on: March 24, 2018, 10:29:32 pm »
So opening day ... I am assuming that Marwin is going to be either at first or in LF.  So are we going to see Fisher or Davis?  Or does AJ Fuck with us and start Jake? 
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« Reply #55 on: March 24, 2018, 10:36:56 pm »
So opening day ... I am assuming that Marwin is going to be either at first or in LF.  So are we going to see Fisher or Davis?  Or does AJ Fuck with us and start Jake?

They likely get 3 lefty starters in the first four games. I think we see a lot of Davis opening weekend.
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« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2018, 07:27:39 am »
They likely get 3 lefty starters in the first four games. I think we see a lot of Davis opening weekend.

I think so, too.
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« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2018, 08:21:28 am »
They likely get 3 lefty starters in the first four games. I think we see a lot of Davis opening weekend.

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« Reply #58 on: March 25, 2018, 10:30:47 am »
Gurriel’s rehab is going so well that I’m wondering whether he’ll miss anything more than the Rangers’ series.

I see Davis will be in left today.
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Re: Derek Fisher
« Reply #59 on: March 25, 2018, 10:53:00 am »
Gurriel’s rehab is going so well that I’m wondering whether he’ll miss anything more than the Rangers’ series.

I see Davis will be in left today.

Well, he'll miss the first five games he's healthy too, but it would be nice to get him back as soon as possible. 
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« Reply #60 on: March 29, 2018, 11:47:54 pm »
Well, he'll miss the first five games he's healthy too, but it would be nice to get him back as soon as possible.
Gurriel started his suspension today.  He’ll be available on Tuesday.
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Re: Derek Fisher
« Reply #61 on: March 30, 2018, 04:41:03 am »
Gurriel started his suspension today.  He’ll be available on Tuesday.

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« Reply #62 on: March 30, 2018, 07:49:26 am »
We need Yuli in the 5-hole.

+1.  His good eye and great bat control are just so important in that position.
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