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Re: The Last Jedi [spoiler alert]
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2018, 11:17:09 am »
I doubt a Chewie prequel would hold up on its own

We already got a Chewie movie.
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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2018, 11:23:15 am »
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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2018, 11:53:04 am »
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Re: The Last Jedi [spoiler alert]
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2018, 11:43:09 am »
We already got a Chewie movie.

Omg, what the heck?  That’s horrible.
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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2019, 11:53:16 am »
Empire was the middle child that took a while to cement itself as the best of the entire bunch; I think this one will be better understood, too, once IX wraps up this set of three.

Things that don't age well...

Russian plot to destroy the movie aside, the internet is rife with scathing critiques of the movie:  the plot points, tonal message and basic cinematography.  Even the use of equipment comes in for justifiable criticism (with a bonus dissection of the throne room fight).  Having watched the movie again (once), and viewed some of the critique, the movie holds up about as well as my quote above.
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« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2019, 12:23:48 pm »
Things that don't age well...

Russian plot to destroy the movie aside, the internet is rife with scathing critiques of the movie:  the plot points, tonal message and basic cinematography.  Even the use of equipment comes in for justifiable criticism (with a bonus dissection of the throne room fight).  Having watched the movie again (once), and viewed some of the critique, the movie holds up about as well as my quote above.

Apparently Star Wars was the only Disney property to lose money last year.  The movie was that bad.
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« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2019, 12:32:13 pm »
Apparently Star Wars was the only Disney property to lose money last year.  The movie was that bad.

Solo was extremely "Meh" too.  I think they made a mistake laying out the one-a-year timetable without the scripts mostly in place.  Last Jedi and Solo both had to be re-made / re-written on the fly, which rarely results in anything other than something that is, at best, acceptable.
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« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2019, 12:34:33 pm »
Solo was extremely "Meh" too.  I think they made a mistake laying out the one-a-year timetable without the scripts mostly in place.  Last Jedi and Solo both had to be re-made / re-written on the fly, which rarely results in anything other than something that is, at best, acceptable.

There's a ton more to it than that.  LucasFilm leadership is awful. 
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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2019, 12:43:28 pm »
There's a ton more to it than that.  LucasFilm leadership is awful.

Exactly.  Disney bought the franchise and expected LucasFilm to be able to crank out a great Star Wars movie every year for twenty years, when they hadn't even made a good one for longer than that.
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« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2019, 01:18:22 pm »
Exactly.  Disney bought the franchise and expected LucasFilm to be able to crank out a great Star Wars movie every year for twenty years, when they hadn't even made a good one for longer than that.

I enjoyed Solo and definitely liked Last Jedi much better on second viewing, but the principle of scarcity has really kicked in for me re: Star Wars. I am about as bored with them now as I am with superheroes.

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« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2019, 01:55:13 pm »
The Marvel folks did it right.  Lucasfilm should have paid closer attention.

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« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2019, 02:16:12 pm »
Apparently Star Wars was the only Disney property to lose money last year.  The movie was that bad.

I assume this calculation did not include merchandising and other licensing.

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« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2019, 02:19:53 pm »
I assume this calculation did not include merchandising and other licensing.

It was their SEC filing I think and actually it was a net decrease from the previous year.  Their only property to do so.
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« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2019, 02:23:04 pm »
It was their SEC filing I think and actually it was a net decrease from the previous year.  Their only property to do so.

That's different from losing money, right? I had always heard the merchandising side made bonkers amount of money. 

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« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2019, 02:30:41 pm »
The Marvel folks did it right.  Lucasfilm should have paid closer attention.

See also C, D.
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« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2019, 02:42:20 pm »
That's different from losing money, right? I had always heard the merchandising side made bonkers amount of money.

True, but it still means that the franchise is less valuable after the recent episodes, which shouldn't be the case.
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« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2019, 03:24:36 pm »
Apparently Star Wars was the only Disney property to lose money last year.  The movie was that bad.

Financially Solo suffered the most from the complete lack of momentum leading up to it.

Complete mismanagement (starting with the choice to do an origin story) being middle and end.

Thre movie itself was ok/ nothing special.

I enjoyed sulking Lando the most.

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« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2019, 03:32:56 pm »
Financially Solo suffered the most from the complete lack of momentum leading up to it.

Complete mismanagement (starting with the choice to do an origin story) being middle and end.

Thre movie itself was ok/ nothing special.

I enjoyed sulking Lando the most.

I really just have no desire to see it so I'll take your word for it.
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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2019, 03:46:10 pm »
I really just have no desire to see it so I'll take your word for it.

I felt very much the same after watching The Last Jedi. IMO it was just an incoherent buzzkill of a plot. Although, I did watch Solo when it came out on DVD and enjoyed it. Not the best, but a good popcorn flick.   
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Re: The Last Jedi [spoiler alert]
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2019, 03:47:25 pm »
I really just have no desire to see it so I'll take your word for it.

You’re not missing anything. It’s not horrible, it’s just completely unnecessary.