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Re: The Last Jedi [spoiler alert]
« Reply #100 on: January 18, 2019, 12:04:34 pm »
I'd have to hear it from Lucas as his intention to believe it.

It's not like he is known for the use of subtlety and nuance in his movie-making.  "Inferred", in Lucas' mind, means a character said it out loud, in front of a green screen.
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Re: The Last Jedi [spoiler alert]
« Reply #101 on: January 18, 2019, 12:05:03 pm »
It’s always been clear the Force isn’t purely a matter of inheritance. I’m just saying Johnson was trying to reiterate the theme expressed in Luke’s little speech: “[the] Force does not belong to the Jedi. To say that if the Jedi die the light dies is vanity.”

ETA: this is perfectly consistent with Lucas’ stories. A central premise of the prequel trilogy is that the Jedi Order was a decaying institution and was out of touch with the nature of the Force.

I looked at it as being similar to the Potterverse, where you had both established families with pure blood lineages that go back generations, ala the Malfoys and Blacks, as well as those filthy mudbloods that sprang up out of nowhere.


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« Reply #102 on: January 18, 2019, 12:59:20 pm »
I'd have to hear it from Lucas as his intention to believe it.

Well, just wait a while. George does a good job of changing what his intentions were.


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« Reply #103 on: January 18, 2019, 01:54:52 pm »
I believe the implications were that Palpatine manipulated midichlorians to, essentially, breed Anakin.

It's been more obviously implied in a recent comic book (which is considered to be canon):
https://comicbook.com/starwars/2018/12/21/star-wars-darth-vader-anakin-skywalker-father-palpatine/
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« Reply #104 on: January 18, 2019, 02:27:42 pm »

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« Reply #105 on: January 19, 2019, 02:28:32 pm »
He's your only Hispanic actor, and his character wasn't like that in 7.

As you noted part of Rose's role was to pander to an Asian audience.  That's insulting if not racist.  Too, as you note she's useless to the primary plot.  They have one African actress (voice for CGI).  She's given minimal time on screen and only related to the useless subplot.  One African actor.  Let's start him off as comic relief and then send him too on the useless subplot.

Every actor of color is useless to plot resolution.
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« Reply #106 on: April 12, 2019, 01:35:44 pm »
The next movie's peek just surfaced from Star Wars celebration.  The title will be The Rise of Skywalker.  Spoilers, maybe.

If I understood correctly what I saw it's more like Retcon of Last Jedi. 
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Re: The Last Jedi [spoiler alert]
« Reply #107 on: April 12, 2019, 01:54:58 pm »
The next movie's peek just surfaced from Star Wars celebration.  The title will be The Rise of Skywalker.  Spoilers, maybe.

If I understood correctly what I saw it's more like Retcon of Last Jedi. 
Oh, and Palpatine is back.


It also said it was the "end of the saga", which is weird, because I thought the last movie pretty much killed it.
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« Reply #108 on: April 12, 2019, 02:27:50 pm »
If I understood correctly what I saw it's more like Retcon of Last Jedi.

That’s how I saw it too. Looks like a complete 180.

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« Reply #109 on: April 12, 2019, 02:30:32 pm »

It also said it was the "end of the saga", which is weird, because I thought the last movie pretty much killed it.

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Re: The Last Jedi [spoiler alert]
« Reply #110 on: April 12, 2019, 02:59:59 pm »

It also said it was the "end of the saga", which is weird, because I thought the last movie pretty much killed it.

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« Reply #111 on: April 12, 2019, 03:39:22 pm »
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Re: The Last Jedi [spoiler alert]
« Reply #112 on: April 12, 2019, 03:56:47 pm »
FYI, the music, I believe, is Leia’s theme. 
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Re: The Last Jedi [spoiler alert]
« Reply #113 on: April 12, 2019, 04:18:54 pm »
FYI, the music, I believe, is Leia’s theme.

A form of it - I think they change it closer to the end.


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« Reply #114 on: April 12, 2019, 04:30:34 pm »
A form of it - I think they change it closer to the end.

It’s definitely “trailer music”–ified like they did with the Force theme in the Force Awakens trailer and Rey’s theme in the TLJ trailer.

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« Reply #115 on: April 12, 2019, 04:37:08 pm »
If I understood correctly what I saw it's more like Retcon of Last Jedi. 

It's still Rian Johnson, right?  So, considering he Retconned virtually the entire Star Wars universe in TLJ - notably ignoring most of the intentionally dangling plot threads from TFW - it stands to reason that he doesn't feel the need to follow straight on from the last movie (or any of them).
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« Reply #116 on: April 12, 2019, 04:43:44 pm »
It's still Rian Johnson, right?  So, considering he Retconned virtually the entire Star Wars universe in TLJ - notably ignoring most of the intentionally dangling plot threads from TFW - it stands to reason that he doesn't feel the need to follow straight on from the last movie (or any of them).

Abrams is helming this one.
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Re: The Last Jedi [spoiler alert]
« Reply #117 on: April 12, 2019, 04:43:47 pm »
It's still Rian Johnson, right?  So, considering he Retconned virtually the entire Star Wars universe in TLJ - notably ignoring most of the intentionally dangling plot threads from TFW - it stands to reason that he doesn't feel the need to follow straight on from the last movie (or any of them).

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Re: The Last Jedi [spoiler alert]
« Reply #118 on: April 12, 2019, 07:10:44 pm »
Just watched a 10 minute to explain the teaser trailer to me. Feel like a graduate student reading Ulysses.

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Re: The Last Jedi [spoiler alert]
« Reply #119 on: April 13, 2019, 12:49:49 pm »
Disney has announced that this will be the last movie in the main “Star Wars” narrative for a while.  Apparently it has dawned on them that you have to, you know, plan more than no movies ahead. 
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