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Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« on: August 03, 2017, 05:14:03 pm »
Your lineups for tonight's home tilt:

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LFCorey Dickerson (L)
1BLucas Duda (L)
3BEvan Longoria (R)
DHLogan Morrison (L)
RFSteven Souza (R)
2BBrad Miller (L)
CWilson Ramos (R)
CFMallex Smith (L)
SSA. Hechavarria (R)

TB: Blake Snell (L)  (0-6, 4.87)

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2B Jose Altuve (R)
SS Alex Bregman (R)
3B Y. Gurriel (R)
C Evan Gattis (R)
LF Marwin Gonzalez (S)
RF Derek Fisher (L)
1B Tyler White (R)
DH A.J. Reed (L)
CF Jake Marisnick (R)

HOU: Collin McHugh (R)  (0-0, 4.22)
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2017, 07:13:23 pm »
Dickerson is 3rd in the league in opposite-field hits. Why are we shifting so hard on him?
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2017, 07:21:38 pm »
My god Gattis is a fucking butcher back there.
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2017, 07:21:54 pm »
T1:

Dickerson with an easy chopper to 3B...but that shift...no one is there...single
Duda flies out F8
Longoria...full count...pops out F4 in foul territory on a nice running grab by Altuve...who is accosted by an idiot fan while the play is still in progress
Morrison...who has four career hits against McHugh, all of them home runs...walks, Dickerson to 2B
Souza strikes out looking

No score
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2017, 07:28:43 pm »
Altuve now in his longest hitless streak of the season
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2017, 07:32:03 pm »
Altuve now in his longest hitless streak of the season

Shitty events seems positively correlated with other shitty events, aka the scientific corollary to the "when it rains it pours" hypothesis.


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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2017, 07:33:08 pm »
Back to back doubles by Bregman and Gurriel give the Astros a quick 1-0 lead
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2017, 07:40:08 pm »
B1:

Altuve...works the count full...strikes out swinging at a pitch in his eyes...only saw one of the 9 pitches over the plate
Bregman chops one down the third base line..hits the bag and bounces funny down the LF line for a double
Bregman steals 3B
Gurriel...infield in...doubles off the LCF wall, Bregman scores
Gattis strikes out swinging at several pitches 10 inches off the plate
Marwin strikes out swinging at a pitch in the dirt 12 inches off the plate

Astros plate a run, but if they'd not swung at a single pitch, they'd have two runs in with the bases loaded and nobody out

1-0 Astros
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2017, 07:40:38 pm »
Back to back doubles by Bregman and Gurriel give the Astros a quick 1-0 lead
Bregman has been killing it over the last month.


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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2017, 07:53:22 pm »
T2:

Miller...3-2...takes strike three for ball four
Ramos...0-2...reaches on a catcher's interference, because Gattis is has no idea how to receive a pitch,  Miller to 2B
Smith flies out F7 in foul territory
Hechevarria strikes out swinging
Dickerson singles to RF, Miller scores, Ramos to 3B and Dickerson to 2B on a TE9 as Fisher's throw is wild to the plate
Duda flies out F7 on the first pitch

1-1
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2017, 07:55:37 pm »
Two errors in the inning for the Astros ties it up.

Interesting scoring situation that last inning.  Ramos reached on a catcher's interference, which is ruled an error, but it is not an assumed out.  So it's not considered the presumed third out of the inning, meaning that the run given up after the error and two were out is earned. 
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2017, 07:56:51 pm »
Fisher's throw was terrible. I hope he had a good excuse.
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2017, 07:57:06 pm »
Astros plate a run, but if they'd not swung at a single pitch, they'd have two runs in with the bases loaded and nobody out.

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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2017, 08:00:57 pm »
I know this is unfair, but there are many things that I'd rather do than watch Tyler White attempt to hit a baseball, including but not limited to reenacting the leech scene from Stand By Me IRL.


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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2017, 08:01:55 pm »
B2:

Fisher strikes out looking at a pitch right down the middle
White...who's still a train wreck in the box...nubs one back to the pitcher...1-3
Reed grounds out 3U

1-1
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2017, 08:02:27 pm »
Bregman has been killing it over the last month.

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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2017, 08:05:05 pm »
The thumbnail picture on MLB Gameday of Snell makes him look like that kid in the movie who could throw the ball really fast and was in the Majors at....like 11 years old.

You know, that movie.
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2017, 08:07:45 pm »
I'm trying to sort out why Marwin didn't catch that.
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2017, 08:09:59 pm »
I'm trying to sort out why Marwin didn't catch that.

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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2017, 08:11:20 pm »
T3:

Longoria pops out F6
Morrison doubles off the LCF wall...another outfielder other than Marwin probably makes the catch
Souza strikes out swinging
Miller flies out F9

1-1
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2017, 08:15:36 pm »
Altuve!!

Breaks out of his slump...home run
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2017, 08:15:45 pm »
Altuve busts out of the Altuve slump.


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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2017, 08:17:13 pm »
I didn't think Altuve got enough of that one, particularly since it seems as though the Rays outfielders have caught everything.


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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2017, 08:19:17 pm »
I didn't think Altuve got enough of that one, particularly since it seems as though the Rays outfielders have caught everything.

Imagine if they had Kiermaier.
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2017, 08:20:15 pm »
B3:

Marisnick strikes out on multiple check swings at pitches that bounced
Altuve homers to RCF on the first pitch
Bregman grounds out 5-3 on the first pitch
Gurriel singles to RF
Gattis grounds into FC, Gurriel out 6-4 at 2B

Astros back on top 2-1
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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2017, 08:21:52 pm »
Altuve busts out of the Altuve slump.


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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2017, 08:26:55 pm »
T4:

Ramos flies out F8
Smith strikes out swinging
Hechevarria grounds out 6-3

2-1 Astros
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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2017, 08:29:03 pm »
When a slump is a few at-bats, what do you do for a slump-buster?

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« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2017, 08:37:57 pm »
B4:

Marwin grounds out 6-3
Fisher...full count...singles to LF
White...full count...lines out to RF on a diving catch by Souza
Reed grounds out 3U on the first pitch...diving stop by Duda

2-1 Astros
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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2017, 08:38:15 pm »
Someone else do some PBP
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« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2017, 08:45:53 pm »
How does Reed look?

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« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2017, 08:48:13 pm »
How does Reed look?

He's got Betty Grable eyes. 
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« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2017, 09:03:43 pm »
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« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2017, 09:07:11 pm »
The Troglodyte kills the incipient rally. Bregman gets a steak, though. 3-0 Astros
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« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2017, 09:25:28 pm »
Seeing Tyler White this summer reminds me of Tyler White last summer.


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« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2017, 09:27:09 pm »
Top 7 is Liriano Time.


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« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2017, 09:28:16 pm »
Naturally, he gets the righty on a fly ball, then gives up a single up the middle to the lefty.


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« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2017, 09:31:04 pm »
That is followed by a walk to another lefty as his slider shows no relationship to the strike zone.


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« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2017, 09:31:51 pm »
Boy, that's an exciting debut for our trade deadline acquisition for the the bullpen that's had an ERA of about 6.00 the past month. Ugh.


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« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2017, 09:32:09 pm »
Devo in to clean up Liriano's mess.


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« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2017, 09:33:35 pm »
That's it?! This is your go-to guy?! An outhouse and monkey beans?! I couldn't take on freaking spring training with an outhouse and monkey beans, let alone the post season!
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« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2017, 09:37:31 pm »
That's your double play ball to end the inning. Man this team is scuffling.


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« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2017, 09:37:54 pm »
WP and e6 make it a 3-3 game.


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« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2017, 09:39:55 pm »
That's your double play ball to end the inning. Man this team is scuffling.

I think the double-play was no longer an option because Gattis had moved the runners to 2nd and 3rd with the WP/PB.
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2017, 09:40:35 pm »
McHugh wasn't bad.
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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2017, 09:41:06 pm »
McHugh wasn't bad.

Doesn't matter if he doesn't throw a complete game.
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« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2017, 09:41:28 pm »
Double by Souza completes the bed-shitting. 5-3.


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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2017, 09:43:08 pm »
This team is a mess. A healthy Correa, Springer, Keuchel, Harris, and McCullers can fix it. Let's hope we get it by October.


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« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2017, 09:43:39 pm »
I think the double-play was no longer an option because Gattis had moved the runners to 2nd and 3rd with the WP/PB.
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« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2017, 09:44:02 pm »
It’s just as bad from here.  And I have great seats.

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« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2017, 09:44:21 pm »
I think the double-play was no longer an option because Gattis had moved the runners to 2nd and 3rd with the WP/PB.

No way that was Gattis' fault.

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Re: Rays @ Astros August 3, 2017
« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2017, 09:44:54 pm »
It’s just as bad from here.  And I have great seats.

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« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2017, 09:45:16 pm »
Doesn't matter if he doesn't throw a complete game.
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« Reply #53 on: August 03, 2017, 09:47:13 pm »
Reed called out on a 2-2 pitch not remotely close to the strike zone. When it rains...


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« Reply #54 on: August 03, 2017, 09:47:49 pm »
This team is a mess. A healthy Correa, Springer, Keuchel, Harris, and McCullers can fix it. Let's hope we get it by October.


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« Reply #55 on: August 03, 2017, 09:47:54 pm »
I blame the switch from Root Sports to AT&T Whatever Its Called


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« Reply #56 on: August 03, 2017, 09:48:00 pm »
This team is a mess. A healthy Correa, Springer, Keuchel, Harris, and McCullers can fix it. Let's hope we get it by October.


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« Reply #57 on: August 03, 2017, 09:48:29 pm »
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« Reply #58 on: August 03, 2017, 09:50:14 pm »
Having a clearer view of explosive diarrhea does not make it more pleasant.

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« Reply #59 on: August 03, 2017, 09:52:26 pm »
If they have to suffer through AJ Reed and Tyler White in the mean time, this team will not be playing in October.

Do you know what? The Moran injury might prove to have been the key to this shitshow.
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Yuli takes two straight strikes on a fucking tee, then lines out on one at his ankles.


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« Reply #62 on: August 03, 2017, 09:55:48 pm »
Do you know what? The Moran injury might prove to have been the key to this shitshow.

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« Reply #63 on: August 03, 2017, 09:56:03 pm »
Son. Of. A. Bitch! I thought Yuli had a hit on that one.
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« Reply #64 on: August 03, 2017, 09:56:24 pm »
Totally snake-bit.

Yuli definitely robbed by Dickerson. That was sick.

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« Reply #66 on: August 03, 2017, 09:58:19 pm »
Totally snake-bit.

The other team making a play is not the problem. It's the three errors. It's your left specialist who cannot get out lefties. This game is not bad luck. It's poor execution and a lack of Major League talent.
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« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2017, 10:02:31 pm »
This team is a mess. A healthy Correa, Springer, Keuchel, Harris, and McCullers can fix it. Let's hope we get it by October.

So you're saying that if 5 of our ~8 best players are healthy again, we've got a chance?
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« Reply #68 on: August 03, 2017, 10:03:31 pm »
Currently configured, this team will not reach 90 wins.

With all the players absent due to injury or limited by injury or overwork, this is basically a 90 loss roster.
A rotation of 5 fifth starters. A bullpen down to one reliable guy, the closer, who will be irrelevant most nights. A lineup that has to carry two AAAA bodies most of the time, so basically an AL team that somehow has two pitchers hitting. The lineup obviously still has a few potent bats, but now they can increasingly be pitched around. (Altuve's insane July covered a lot of problems. Now that's over...)

It's still a big lead, but it's being protected by a roster that can't consistently win without breaks or help from the other team.
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« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2017, 10:04:45 pm »
Did Gattis just get hit in the head by the bat? After catcher's interference earlier in the game? And all season long?
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« Reply #70 on: August 03, 2017, 10:14:03 pm »
Did Gattis just get hit in the head by the bat? After catcher's interference earlier in the game? And all season long?
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« Reply #71 on: August 03, 2017, 10:25:46 pm »
Walk. Martes should have hit him.
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« Reply #72 on: August 03, 2017, 10:26:49 pm »
Bottom of the 9th is White, Reed, Marisnick.  Prob should just let the hubby get an early start on the next episode of Rick & Morty. This team is damn near unwatchable.

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« Reply #73 on: August 03, 2017, 10:28:29 pm »
Bottom of the 9th is White, Reed, Marisnick.  Prob should just let the hubby get an early start on the next episode of Rick & Morty. This team is damn near unwatchable.

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« Reply #74 on: August 03, 2017, 10:29:48 pm »
If all three of those hit this inning then Hinch is just giving up.

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« Reply #75 on: August 03, 2017, 10:31:02 pm »
If all three of those hit this inning then Hinch is just giving up.

Glad to see Reddick. I was disappointed he was out of the lineup despite the lefty starter.

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Glad to see Reddick. I was disappointed he was out of the lineup despite the lefty starter.

I'm disappointed that Aj Reed is on the roster.
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« Reply #77 on: August 03, 2017, 10:38:13 pm »
Astros go out with a whimper in the 9th, go down 5-3. Liriano takes the loss.
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« Reply #79 on: August 04, 2017, 12:26:23 am »
I'm disappointed that Aj Reed is on the roster.

I didn't get to watch and only got to follow in bits and pieces here and the radio (thanks btw, for the pbp), but White and Reed have no business on this roster, maybe Oakland or San Diego or whoever.
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« Reply #80 on: August 04, 2017, 09:14:12 am »
The AL West is officially open for business.

Trade everybody. Shut down the franchise. Burn the stadium and salt the earth.

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« Reply #81 on: August 04, 2017, 09:20:36 am »
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« Reply #82 on: August 04, 2017, 10:19:43 am »
The other team making a play is not the problem. It's the three errors. It's your left specialist who cannot get out lefties. This game is not bad luck. It's poor execution and a lack of Major League talent.

Even for your GZ persona, this is over the top.
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« Reply #83 on: August 04, 2017, 11:52:30 am »
Even for your GZ persona, this is over the top.

My persona?  So you think it was just bad luck last night?  That the three errors and bullpen's inability to hold the lead were irrelevant?
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« Reply #84 on: August 04, 2017, 11:59:07 am »
Trade everybody. Shut down the franchise. Burn the stadium and salt the earth.

No team with a 15 game lead has ever recovered from a 3 game losing streak.

Yes!!

That is EXACTLY what everyone is saying. Verbatim.
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« Reply #85 on: August 04, 2017, 12:26:09 pm »
My persona?  So you think it was just bad luck last night?  That the three errors and bullpen's inability to hold the lead were irrelevant?

Not what I said.

"Lack of major league talent."

Elsewhere you said the team will not win 90 games.

Poor play got us behind 5-3. Bad luck kept us from tying it 5-5.

Your GZ persona is ultra-critical negative hyperbole. Every strike taken is a "cookie." Every misplay is "Dick-stepping." Every ball that gets through is because of the shift. Liriano  "cannot" get LH hitters out. Now the team lacks major league talent.  There are no nuances or reasons to you. This amazes me because you played the game.

Every team has a lull over 162 games. Hinch has not thrown up his hands and cried "It's over," and we should not either. If you want the last word as always, go for it. I won't reply.

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« Reply #86 on: August 04, 2017, 01:23:07 pm »
Yes!!

That is EXACTLY what everyone is saying. Verbatim.

I didn't realize we had banned argumentum ad absurdem.
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« Reply #87 on: August 04, 2017, 01:24:18 pm »
Not what I said.

"Lack of major league talent."

Elsewhere you said the team will not win 90 games.

Poor play got us behind 5-3. Bad luck kept us from tying it 5-5.

I said the that if they continue to run out the same group of guys they have had to the last week they will not.  And yes, the talent level is significantly lower today than it was two months ago.  White and Reed are simply not as good of hitters as Springer and Correa.  Mike Fiers is not a one to one replacement for a healthy Lance McCullers.  No matter how you slice it, this is not the same team right now that we saw mauling people in April and May.  It's a different group of guys with a different dynamic, and it's not a good one.  I know you know this. 

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I try to call em like I see em in the GZ.  If a guy takes a pitch down the middle for strike three or swings at a curveball in the dirt, I try to point that out.  Likewise when a guy hits what would otherwise be a routine groundball that ends up a hit because of the shift I point that out too.  I also often mention that a hitter is in a 3-0 or 0-2 count, or that he's worked the count full.  I do this because I think it's 1) more descriptive for someone who isn't watching on TV, and 2) material to the situation.  But it's not as if I don't also point out when a guy makes a diving catch, or a ball that is hit hard right at someone.  Again, I try to be descriptive.  If you think I'm only negative and never point out the positive, then I'll disagree with you, but you see what you want to see.

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Every team has a lull over 162 games. Hinch has not thrown up his hands and cried "It's over," and we should not either. If you want the last word as always, go for it. I won't reply.

No one has suggested that the team throw in the towel and give up.  You and MM are the masters of hyperbolic strawmen.  Not every criticism of a play or a player means that I want said player to be released, or that I don't think they'll ever win another game in the history of the franchise.  Just  a couple nights ago you said that even though Altuve has been hitting .500, he often hurts the team.  I understood what you meant, but didn't go accusing you of giving up on the season.  I wish you would extend me the same.
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« Reply #88 on: August 04, 2017, 01:25:23 pm »
I didn't realize we had banned argumentum ad absurdem.

We haven't banned anything.  Except a few 'necks. 
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