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Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« on: July 15, 2017, 04:05:26 pm »
Your  lineups for tonight's home tilt:

Twins

2BBrian Dozier (R)
CFZack Granite (L)
1BJoe Mauer (L)
3BMiguel Sano (R)
RFMax Kepler (L)
DHRobbie Grossman (S)
LFEddie Rosario (L)
SSJorge Polanco (S)
CJason Castro (L)

MIN: Ervin Santana (R)  (10-6, 2.99)

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CF George Springer (R)
2B Jose Altuve (R)
RF Josh Reddick (L)
SS Carlos Correa (R)
DH Carlos Beltran (S)
1B Y. Gurriel (R)
LF Marwin Gonzalez (S)
C Evan Gattis (R)
3B Alex Bregman (R)

HOU: Joe Musgrove (R)  (4-7, 6.04)
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2017, 06:12:46 pm »
Well that happened quickly.

Dozier homers to LF on the first pitch of the game.  Again. 
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2017, 06:16:28 pm »
T1:

Dozier homers to LF on the first pitch of the game
Granite grounds out 4-3
Mauer strikes out swinging
Sano pops out F4

1-0 Twins
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2017, 06:20:34 pm »
The Dozier-leadoff-homer thing is getting old.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2017, 06:27:44 pm »
B1:

Springer singles to LF
Altuve flies out F8
Springer steals 2B
Reddick...full count...lines to 1B...Springer is doubled off of second base 3-6

1-0 Twins
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2017, 06:31:45 pm »
Gonna need a couple of big innings again tonight with middle of the plate Musgrove on the mound.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2017, 06:34:38 pm »
T2:

Kepler grounds out 4-3
Grossman doubles on a soft liner to CF...shift was on and Springer was in deep RCF
Rosario grounds out 4-3, Grossman to 3B
Polanco grounds out 4-3

1-0 Twins
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2017, 06:35:29 pm »
Quote from: Jacksonian on July 15, 2017, 06:31:45 pm
Gonna need a couple of big innings again tonight with middle of the plate Musgrove on the mound.

Aside from the get ahead fastball on the first pitch of the game, Musgrove has done a good job of getting weak contact.  Lots of rollover ground balls.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2017, 06:39:44 pm »
Beltran missed that one by a half a hair.


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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2017, 06:39:50 pm »
Crying Yard, Kevin?
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2017, 06:40:27 pm »
Eschenfelder went into his announcer HR trot.


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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2017, 06:41:28 pm »
Quote from: Reuben on July 15, 2017, 06:39:50 pm
Crying Yard, Kevin?

I would have called it, too. I've seen a lot of Beltran swings this year that just seem like a flick of the wrists that go out. I was surprised that one didn't leave the park.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2017, 06:41:47 pm »
Quote from: hostros7 on July 15, 2017, 06:40:27 pm
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2017, 06:41:52 pm »
Yuli picks him up!
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2017, 06:42:17 pm »
That's quite a break there. Was a helluva throw.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2017, 06:42:27 pm »
One thing I like about Yuli is he doesn't seem to know or care which pitchers are supposed to be good.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2017, 06:42:49 pm »
Gurriel with an RBI double to tie the game
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2017, 06:43:16 pm »
Quote from: chuck on July 15, 2017, 06:42:27 pm
One thing I like about Yuli is he doesn't seem to know or care which pitchers are supposed to be good.

See a hittable pitch and hack at it.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2017, 06:48:37 pm »
I had no idea that Santana is 34 years old. I figured he was much younger than that.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2017, 06:51:06 pm »
Quote from: austro on July 15, 2017, 06:48:37 pm
I had no idea that Santana is 34 years old. I figured he was much younger than that.

He's been in the league for like 15 years.  How young did you think he was?
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2017, 06:52:29 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on July 15, 2017, 06:51:06 pm
He's been in the league for like 15 years.  How young did you think he was?

I just didn't realize that he's been around that long.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2017, 06:53:17 pm »
It really must be a pain in the ass to pitch to this team.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2017, 06:53:27 pm »
Astros with the bases drunk and two away...top of the order due...
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2017, 06:54:11 pm »
B2:

Correa draws a leadoff walk
Beltran flies out F9...Eschenfelder creams his pants
Gurriel doubles off the LCF wall...Correa scores as Mauer cuts the throw to the plate about 5 feet in front of the plate when they had a good shot at Correa...what Mauer was doing in front of the plate, nobody knows...
Marwin...full count...walks
Gattis strikes out swinging
Bregman...full count...runners moving....walks...Gurriel to 3B, Marwin to 2B
Springer pops out F4 on the first pitch

Astros leave the bases loaded, but get a run to tie it at 1
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2017, 06:59:47 pm »
"Zack Granite" sounds like the alter ego of a superhero.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2017, 07:00:50 pm »
T3:

Castro strikes out swinging
Dozier grounds out 6-3
Granite grounds out 6-3

1-1 is the score
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2017, 07:04:05 pm »
Altuve!!!

Homer over the bullpen in RCF
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2017, 07:09:23 pm »
B3:

Altuve homers to RCF
Reddick grounds out 5-3
Correa strikes out swinging
Beltran...0-2...1-2...flies out F9

2-1 Astros
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2017, 07:21:54 pm »
T4:

Mauer singles to RF
Sano singles to LF, Mauer to 2B
Kepler grounds into FC, Sano out 3-6 at 2B, Mauer to 3B
Grossman...0-2...1-2...strikes out swinging
Rosario...0-2...1-2...2-2...strikes out swinging

2-1 Astros
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2017, 07:22:50 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on July 15, 2017, 07:21:54 pm
T4:

Mauer singles to RF
Sano singles to LF, Mauer to 2B
Kepler grounds into FC, Sano out 3-6 at 2B, Mauer to 3B
Grossman...0-2...1-2...strikes out swinging
Rosario...0-2...1-2...2-2...strikes out swinging

2-1 Astros

Great job by Musgrove.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2017, 07:25:49 pm »
After the first two got on, I had bad thoughts. He made one bad pitch on 0-2 to the last guy, but that was impressive otherwise.
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« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2017, 07:26:34 pm »
Quote from: JimR on July 15, 2017, 07:22:50 pm
Great job by Musgrove.

Getting ahead of Grossman and Rosario was huge.  Able to put them away.  Great job.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2017, 07:28:20 pm »
Astros with two on...nobody out...
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2017, 07:33:59 pm »
Bases loaded with Astros...two outs for Altuve...
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2017, 07:35:29 pm »
B4:

Gurriel don't give a damn...singles up the middle on the first pitch
Marwin singles to RCF, Gurriel to 2B
Gattis quickly 0-2...1-2...slow chopper to SS...Gattis out 6-3...Gurriel to 3B, Marwin to 2B
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Springer...2-0...3-0...3-1...walks
Altuve grounds out 5-3

Astros leave the bases loaded again, but lead 2-1
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2017, 07:41:09 pm »
Bunt single, then 5-pitch walk to the 9 hitter...Twins with two on, nobody out...
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2017, 07:42:01 pm »
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2017, 07:42:57 pm »
Twins have bases loaded, nobody out...
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2017, 07:43:47 pm »
Could use a punchout or a twin killing to start cleaning this inning up
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2017, 07:45:11 pm »
There's the GIDP...now let that be all...
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2017, 07:46:48 pm »
T5:

Polanco bunts against the shift...single
Castro...3-1...walks, Polanco to 2B
Dozier singles to LF, Polanco to 3B, Castro to 2B
Granite grounds into 4-6-3 double play, Polanco scores, Castro to 3B
Mauer...0-2...takes strike three for ball one...strikes out swinging

Good job limiting damage...tied up again 2-2
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2017, 07:53:44 pm »
B5:

Reddick flies out F8
Correa...0-2...1-2...grounds out 5-3
Beltran grounds out 3-1

2-2
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2017, 07:54:11 pm »
Somebody will have to grab PBP...
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2017, 08:02:59 pm »
Walk, single, single...Twins with the bases loaded and nobody out...again.

That's all for Musgrove...Sipp in.

Once again...another LONG night for the pen
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2017, 08:03:31 pm »
Bases loaded no outs again. Musgrove specializes in fat pitches.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2017, 08:06:35 pm »
Tapper back to the mound ends up in RF...two runs in...runners at 2B and 3B...still nobody out...4-2 Twins
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2017, 08:07:36 pm »
Guess I can regrab PBP
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« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2017, 08:07:44 pm »
Man, that sucked big time. The bats are going to have to quit fucking around in this one.
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« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2017, 08:09:07 pm »
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Man, that sucked big time. The bats are going to have to quit fucking around in this one.

Looked like a perfect double play ball before Sipp deflected it.
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« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2017, 08:10:52 pm »
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Looked like a perfect double play ball before Sipp deflected it.

It's a perfect 1-2-3 double play ball if he fields it
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« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2017, 08:11:56 pm »
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« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2017, 08:13:55 pm »
Great pitch by Sipp to get Castro.
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« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2017, 08:16:15 pm »
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Great pitch by Sipp to get Castro.

He pitched well all inning.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2017, 08:16:51 pm »
T6:

Sano walks
Kepler singles to CF, Sano to 2B
Grossman singles to RF, Sano to 3B, Kepler to 2B

That's all for Musgrove, Sipp in
Rosario bounces back to the mound...Sipp knocks it past Altuve into RF...Sano scores, Kepler scores...Grossman to 3B and Rosario ends up at 2B on what's scored a double
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« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2017, 08:17:09 pm »
Good job by Sipp to clean up the inning. Those two runs were unfortunate, but he pitched well.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2017, 08:17:34 pm »
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It's a perfect 1-2-3 double play ball if he fields it

Right. It was a double play either way.

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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2017, 08:18:48 pm »
Left the bases loaded twice with Springer and Altuve, and Bregman was robbed of a 2-run double.
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« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2017, 08:20:14 pm »
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Right. It was a double play either way.

Sipp did a great job.

Lots of bad luck this game.  That play...Bregman should have had a 2-run double...
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2017, 08:27:05 pm »
B6:

Gurriel flies out F8
Marwin strikes out looking
Gattis...full count...walks
Bregman grounds into FC, Gattis out 6-4

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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2017, 08:30:39 pm »
Good Sipp would be a really nice addition to this bullpen. He kept the ball down and located well at the corners.


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« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2017, 08:35:05 pm »
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2017, 08:37:53 pm »
T7:

Hoyt on the mound...

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« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2017, 08:38:55 pm »
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« Reply #63 on: July 15, 2017, 08:39:16 pm »
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2017, 08:47:22 pm »
Astros have two on, two out for Beltran...
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2017, 08:50:07 pm »
Bases loaded, two out...Yuli Don't Give a Damn at the plate...
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #66 on: July 15, 2017, 08:51:06 pm »
Rosario was lucky to get that bounce.
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« Reply #67 on: July 15, 2017, 08:51:14 pm »
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« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2017, 08:51:29 pm »
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« Reply #69 on: July 15, 2017, 08:54:19 pm »
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Rosario was luck to get that bounce.

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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #70 on: July 15, 2017, 08:55:30 pm »
B7:

Duffey in for the Twins...

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Altuve flies out F8
Reddick singles to LF against the shift
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« Reply #71 on: July 15, 2017, 08:57:56 pm »
Has Julia moved full-time to the post-game role?
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« Reply #72 on: July 15, 2017, 09:04:33 pm »
And ANOTHER 4-pitch walk to the fucking number 9 hitter...that's all for Hoyt, Martes in
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Has Julia moved full-time to the post-game role?

Don't know.  Where is Kalas?
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« Reply #74 on: July 15, 2017, 09:08:27 pm »
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Don't know.  Where is Kalas?

I assume they staggered his vacation with Blum's, but who knows.
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« Reply #75 on: July 15, 2017, 09:09:49 pm »
Good job by Martes. Time to get some hits.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2017, 09:09:54 pm »
T8:

Rosario singles to LF
Rosario to 2B on a passed ball
Polanco strikes out swinging
Castro...3-0...walks

That's all for Hoyt...Martes in

Dozier...0-2...1-2...2-2...strikes out swinging
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« Reply #77 on: July 15, 2017, 09:10:27 pm »
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I assume they staggered his vacation with Blum's, but who knows.

So he's needed two weeks vacation before the All Star Break? 
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« Reply #78 on: July 15, 2017, 09:15:28 pm »
One of those nights.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #79 on: July 15, 2017, 09:15:28 pm »
B8:

Marwin...quickly 0-2...strikes out looking again
Gattis flies out F8
Bregman flies out F9

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« Reply #80 on: July 15, 2017, 09:19:40 pm »
Seems like Sano has been up every inning tonight.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #81 on: July 15, 2017, 09:21:02 pm »
T9:

Mauer grounds out 5-3 on the first pitch
Sano strikes out looking
Kepler grounds out 4-3 on the first pitch

to the bottom of the 9th...Astros will have the top of the order due, chasing a pair
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #82 on: July 15, 2017, 09:28:54 pm »
Astros have the tying run at the plate...one out...
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« Reply #83 on: July 15, 2017, 09:32:57 pm »
B9:

Kintzler in to try to close it out for the Twins

Springer...quickly 0-2 falling to his knees, helmet flying a la Carlos Gomez...1-2...2-2...full up...grounds out 5-3
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2017, 09:34:50 pm »
Can't have the bases loaded three times and not put any runs on the board. 

1-9 with RISP, and that one hit didn't score a run. 
Tough luck on the Bregman lineout, and on the comebacker to the mound that ended up a 2-run double.

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« Reply #85 on: July 15, 2017, 09:39:55 pm »
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Can't have the bases loaded three times and not put any runs on the board. 



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« Reply #86 on: July 15, 2017, 10:16:08 pm »
Bad luck and bad two out hitting.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #87 on: July 15, 2017, 11:28:27 pm »
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Bases loaded no outs again. Musgrove specializes in fat pitches.
How do you teach a guy to not throw so many strikes?  I can't believe I'm saying this, but he needs to nibble a bit more, doesn't have the stuff to just pound the strike zone all day.
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How do you teach a guy to not throw so many strikes?  I can't believe I'm saying this, but he needs to nibble a bit more, doesn't have the stuff to just pound the strike zone all day.

I would say he has to better command the strike zone.  There's a fine difference between "nibbling" and "command".  Nibbling happens when you don't have confidence in your pitches.  It's mostly offspeed stuff, trying to entice a swing because you're afraid to throw a strike.  I don't want Musgrove nibbling, he's the type of pitcher who has to get ahead of hitters and stay ahead to be successful.  He can't pitch scared.  But he can't throw meatballs either. 
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2017, 12:02:34 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on July 15, 2017, 11:52:45 pm
I would say he has to better command the strike zone.  There's a fine difference between "nibbling" and "command".  Nibbling happens when you don't have confidence in your pitches.  It's mostly offspeed stuff, trying to entice a swing because you're afraid to throw a strike.  I don't want Musgrove nibbling, he's the type of pitcher who has to get ahead of hitters and stay ahead to be successful.  He can't pitch scared.  But he can't throw meatballs either.

Stanton did a good job for me explaining the difference between "control" and "command." Musgrove lacks command, especially with two strikes.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #90 on: July 16, 2017, 12:23:41 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on July 15, 2017, 11:52:45 pm
I would say he has to better command the strike zone.  There's a fine difference between "nibbling" and "command".  Nibbling happens when you don't have confidence in your pitches.  It's mostly offspeed stuff, trying to entice a swing because you're afraid to throw a strike.  I don't want Musgrove nibbling, he's the type of pitcher who has to get ahead of hitters and stay ahead to be successful.  He can't pitch scared.  But he can't throw meatballs either. 

Yeah, we're on the same page, just a poor choice of words on my part.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #91 on: July 16, 2017, 04:18:32 pm »
Sipp can't field any better than he can pitch.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #92 on: July 16, 2017, 04:22:43 pm »
Quote from: geezerdonk on July 16, 2017, 04:18:32 pm
Sipp can't field any better than he can pitch.


Typical comment from you. Go away.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #93 on: July 16, 2017, 04:23:36 pm »
Quote from: geezerdonk on July 16, 2017, 04:18:32 pm
Sipp can't field any better than he can pitch.

So you're saying he's been fielding pretty well lately?
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #94 on: July 16, 2017, 07:42:26 pm »
Quote from: geezerdonk on July 16, 2017, 04:18:32 pm
Sipp can't field any better than he can pitch.

Oh come on.  That was not an easy play, and if he stabs it, it's a 1-2-3 double play with no runs scoring.  Just a tough break in a game full of them.  And Sipp has pitched very well lately. 
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #95 on: July 16, 2017, 07:51:47 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on July 16, 2017, 07:42:26 pm
Oh come on.  That was not an easy play, and if he stabs it, it's a 1-2-3 double play with no runs scoring.  Just a tough break in a game full of them.  And Sipp has pitched very well lately.

You are a nicer person than I with your response, but you knew that.
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #96 on: July 16, 2017, 07:53:55 pm »
Quote from: JimR on July 16, 2017, 07:51:47 pm
You are a nicer person than I with your response, but you knew that.

I've felt kinder and gentler lately.  But that could change like the weather. 
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Re: Twins @ Astros July 15, 2017
« Reply #97 on: July 16, 2017, 08:49:07 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on July 16, 2017, 07:53:55 pm
I've felt kinder and gentler lately.  But that could change like the weather.

You are mellowing before our eyes.
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