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Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« on: April 25, 2017, 02:17:45 pm »
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RF Reddick
LF Beltran
2b Altuve
SS Correa
C McCann
3b Bregman
1b Gurriel
DH Gattis
CF Aoki
P Keuchel

With that outfield, Keuchel better have every bit of his ability to induce grounders.

And someone still needs to explain to me why we wouldn't put Gattis in LF, if for no other reason than to avoid burning your DH.


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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2017, 02:31:04 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on April 25, 2017, 02:17:45 pm
And someone still needs to explain to me why we wouldn't put Gattis in LF, if for no other reason than to avoid burning your DH.

Not sure what you mean.  Someone has to play LF, and someone different has to DH.  Those are going to be Beltran and Gattis.  Why does it matter which one is which?
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2017, 02:35:14 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 25, 2017, 02:31:04 pm
Not sure what you mean.  Someone has to play LF, and someone different has to DH.  Those are going to be Beltran and Gattis.  Why does it matter which one is which?

Because only one of them can play catcher.


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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2017, 03:07:27 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on April 25, 2017, 02:35:14 pm
Because only one of them can play catcher.


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Some might suggest that only one can play LF.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2017, 03:09:32 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on April 25, 2017, 02:35:14 pm
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Ah...so you're worried about the pitcher having to hit if McCann gets hurt and Gattis has to go behind the plate.  I think that's a pretty small risk, probably offset by your defense being better with Beltran in LF.  Though probably not by much anymore.  Did Gattis play LF at all this spring?
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2017, 03:15:57 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 25, 2017, 03:09:32 pm
Ah...so you're worried about the pitcher having to hit if McCann gets hurt and Gattis has to go behind the plate.  I think that's a pretty small risk, probably offset by your defense being better with Beltran in LF.  Though probably not by much anymore.  Did Gattis play LF at all this spring?

Yes, that's what I'm getting at. We've had this happen multiple times, and from what we've seen of Beltran, the defensive difference is negligible.


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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2017, 03:38:57 pm »
Gattis played no position but C in spring. This gets your two C bats in the lineup and of the two (Beltran and Gattis), Beltran is still the better LF. Martin can come in for late inning defense, and maybe Teoscar or whoever is Marisnick's replacement, gets there in time to help.


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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2017, 04:18:16 pm »
Quote from: Tonywatson on April 25, 2017, 03:38:57 pm
Gattis played no position but C in spring. This gets your two C bats in the lineup and of the two (Beltran and Gattis), Beltran is still the better LF. Martin can come in for late inning defense, and maybe Teoscar or whoever is Marisnick's replacement, gets there in time to help.


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I was surprised to see that Gattis played 48 games in LF in 2013 for ATL.  The last time he played out there was 2015, when he made appearances in 11 games in LF. He hasn't patrolled the OF in a while, and, while Carlos is no Marisnick out there anymore, my guess is that AJ has more confidence in Beltran to avoid making any major fuck-ups.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2017, 05:20:48 pm »
No score after one.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2017, 05:27:14 pm »
Correa got completely squeezed, strikes 2&3 should have both been balls.


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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2017, 05:28:22 pm »
Big zone tonight. Gotta swing the bats boys.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2017, 05:33:15 pm »
Huge zone and Keuchel missing badly. Might be a long night.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2017, 05:34:40 pm »
Double and TE4 puts Indians on the corner, one out.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2017, 05:35:48 pm »
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2017, 05:36:04 pm »
And there's the pitcher's best friend...inning ending 6-4-3.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2017, 05:36:33 pm »
Keuchel'd.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2017, 05:41:31 pm »
Yuli seems to be in a nice groove.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2017, 05:43:34 pm »
Situational hitting is your DH not taking multiple meatballs with a runner at 2B and nobody out.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2017, 05:47:07 pm »
Nori is in a nice groove too. Both Gurriel and Aoki are hitting above .330 on the year.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2017, 05:49:47 pm »
And that was for shit situational hitting that inning.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2017, 05:50:42 pm »
Well, that was an opportunity wasted.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2017, 05:52:49 pm »
Taking strike three wit RISP drives me nuts. To do it twice in the same inning ought to get someone kicked in the nuts.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2017, 05:54:28 pm »
I can't help it but I still get pissed at Blummer when the subject of the 2005 WS comes up.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2017, 05:54:30 pm »
And after completely stomping their dicks, 1-0 Indians on a 2-strike HR from the number 9 hitter, his first in three years.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2017, 06:02:22 pm »
This is not a fast-starting team.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2017, 06:11:35 pm »
Gurriel is definitely locked in.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2017, 06:17:11 pm »
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2017, 06:17:15 pm »
Aoki with an RBI double!  Runners at 2B and 3B nobody out for the top of the order.
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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2017, 06:17:29 pm »
Aoki is such an anomaly on this team. I really like it!
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2017, 06:17:41 pm »
Great AB
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2017, 06:18:59 pm »
Hell yeah Reddick!
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2017, 06:19:31 pm »
Reddick with a 2-run single.  Moved to 2B on the throw and had 3B if he wanted it because nobody was covering.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2017, 06:20:32 pm »
Geez Beltran swingbthe fucking bat.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2017, 06:22:50 pm »
Fuck!!!!!

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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2017, 06:24:10 pm »
Astros score three, no thanks to the meat of the order, and lead 3-1.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2017, 06:25:04 pm »
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Reddick with a 2-run single.  Moved to 2B on the throw and had 3B if he wanted it because nobody was covering.

Looked to me like the Tomlin had third covered
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2017, 06:28:11 pm »
What. A. Catch!
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2017, 06:28:27 pm »
Josh Reddick the thief.
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Looked to me like the Tomlin had third covered

Didn't see him. If he did, he was WAY out of position.
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« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2017, 06:34:35 pm »
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Looked to me like the Tomlin had third covered

Went back and looked. Nope, Tomlin was backing up the plate, as he should have been.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2017, 06:35:58 pm »
Man, I'd hate to see how much y'all would bitch about a team that wasn't 13-6 and winning.


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« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2017, 06:37:11 pm »
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Went back and looked. Nope, Tomlin was backing up the plate, as he should have been.

Huh. Well Reddick was watching someone run to third.
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« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2017, 06:37:54 pm »
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2017, 06:41:27 pm »
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Huh. Well Reddick was watching someone run to third.

He was watching the play in CF. no one was covering 3B.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2017, 06:49:18 pm »
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Looked to me like the Tomlin had third covered

That's not where the pitcher goes in those situations; the pitcher is supposed to back up home plate.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2017, 06:52:24 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 25, 2017, 06:41:27 pm
He was watching the play in CF. no one was covering 3B.

Clearly looked towards third twice. i can't imagine he missed it being open. I'm clearly wrong about it being Tomlin.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #47 on: April 25, 2017, 06:54:03 pm »
I really don't understand why Seattle felt they didn't need Aoki.


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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2017, 06:56:50 pm »
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« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2017, 06:57:08 pm »
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Clearly looked towards third twice. i can't imagine he missed it being open. I'm clearly wrong about it being Tomlin.
The third baseman was near the mound when took the cut off throw and fired it to CF. The CF camera view shows him was making his way back towards third.  It would have been close.
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Clearly looked towards third twice. i can't imagine he missed it being open. I'm clearly wrong about it being Tomlin.

Unless someone ran in from off the bench. Tomlinson was behind the plate, third baseman made the cut and throw and was between the mound and the plate, and the SS was covering 2B. Third baseman eventually made a break to go cover, but he was almost as far from the bag as Reddick was.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2017, 06:59:13 pm »
Teo in to RF, Aoki to LF. Struggling to figure why Teo is in RF and Reddick in CF rather than vice versa.


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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2017, 07:00:10 pm »
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« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2017, 07:01:26 pm »
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2017, 07:04:13 pm »
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« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2017, 07:04:46 pm »
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2017, 07:06:15 pm »
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2017, 07:08:13 pm »
Good time for Altuve to take a bag.
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« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2017, 07:09:24 pm »
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« Reply #60 on: April 25, 2017, 07:09:42 pm »
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #61 on: April 25, 2017, 07:12:04 pm »
Damn. McCann had a couple of good pitches to hit, he just didn't hit one.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #62 on: April 25, 2017, 07:12:32 pm »
Dammit, McCann strikes out with men on the corners for out one.
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« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2017, 07:13:05 pm »
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« Reply #64 on: April 25, 2017, 07:13:09 pm »
That was entirely too predictable.
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« Reply #65 on: April 25, 2017, 07:13:19 pm »
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #66 on: April 25, 2017, 07:13:27 pm »
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #67 on: April 25, 2017, 07:13:43 pm »
Good to see Correa have a couple hits. That single reminded me of a lot of the right handed swats Berkman would send past left fielders. Prettier swing by Correa though.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #69 on: April 25, 2017, 07:17:15 pm »
And Teoscar just decapitaed Altuve.
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« Reply #72 on: April 25, 2017, 07:18:03 pm »
Shit. Can't someone call it? Fuck boys.
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« Reply #73 on: April 25, 2017, 07:18:22 pm »
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« Reply #74 on: April 25, 2017, 07:18:31 pm »
Both still on the ground.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #75 on: April 25, 2017, 07:20:04 pm »
Teo might have a broken sternum.
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« Reply #76 on: April 25, 2017, 07:20:21 pm »
Teoscar can't even stand up. Will need a stretcher.
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« Reply #77 on: April 25, 2017, 07:20:26 pm »
I think Teo has a broken leg.
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« Reply #78 on: April 25, 2017, 07:21:20 pm »
And I wouldn't be surprised to see Altuve join Marisnick on the concussion DL.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #79 on: April 25, 2017, 07:21:24 pm »
Altuve out of the game too
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #80 on: April 25, 2017, 07:22:09 pm »
So looks like Springer in to RF and Marwin to 2B.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #81 on: April 25, 2017, 07:22:34 pm »
Need some fucking ground balls now.
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« Reply #82 on: April 25, 2017, 07:23:55 pm »
Man, what a bummer. Hope Teo is just bruised and Altuve is not concussed.
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« Reply #83 on: April 25, 2017, 07:25:24 pm »
Hate to see Springer in the game and risk aggravating the hammy.
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Hate to see Springer in the game and risk aggravating the hammy.

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« Reply #85 on: April 25, 2017, 07:26:27 pm »
I really have no idea where the strike zone is tonight.
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« Reply #86 on: April 25, 2017, 07:26:29 pm »
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« Reply #87 on: April 25, 2017, 07:27:06 pm »
What a weird fucking inning. I'm ready for it to end.
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« Reply #88 on: April 25, 2017, 07:27:20 pm »
Tough luck comebacker now. Tying run on base
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Is Mills the bench coach for Cleveland?
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Is Mills the bench coach for Cleveland?

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I think you're right. If it didn't break, it's made of iron.
His leg stuck when they collided. Could be a knee injury.
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I wasn't looking at his leg in the replay, can you explain?

Altuve's knee went right into Teo's tibia.
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His leg stuck when they collided. Could be a knee injury.

They were spending a lot of time on his shin, and I didn't notice too much concern about the knee. If you have to pick between a broken bone and a torn-up knee, I think you prefer the broken bone.
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Is Mills the bench coach for Cleveland?

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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #99 on: April 25, 2017, 07:40:01 pm »
I hope they get the audio better tomorrow. The  announcers sound muffled.
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« Reply #100 on: April 25, 2017, 07:40:05 pm »
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Altuve's knee went right into Teo's tibia.

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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #101 on: April 25, 2017, 07:41:00 pm »
How the fuck did Aoki hit that?
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #102 on: April 25, 2017, 07:41:07 pm »
Screw you Francona, you should be yelling at you catcher for making a shitty throw.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #103 on: April 25, 2017, 07:42:16 pm »
Springer needs to be sacrificing here.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #104 on: April 25, 2017, 07:42:16 pm »
Francona is arguing that Aoki was inside the line, but he's off base. Aoki stayed right on the line


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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #105 on: April 25, 2017, 07:42:43 pm »
I'm holding my breath until we get a report about Altuve. He walked off, but he's a tough hombre.


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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #106 on: April 25, 2017, 07:42:48 pm »
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Screw you Francona, you should be yelling at you catcher for making a shitty throw.

Yeah, your complaint about running inside the baseline rings pretty hollow when the catcher throws the ball four feet to the right of the runner.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #107 on: April 25, 2017, 07:43:26 pm »
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I hope they get the audio better tomorrow. The  announcers sound muffled.

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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #108 on: April 25, 2017, 07:44:42 pm »
Just a bit too shallow but Aoki had to try.
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« Reply #109 on: April 25, 2017, 07:45:20 pm »
I didn't think that Springer hit the ball far enough to score Aoki.
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« Reply #110 on: April 25, 2017, 07:47:54 pm »
4-2 now. Still nobody out in the 9th
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #111 on: April 25, 2017, 07:48:33 pm »
Dallas didn't even turn his head, he knew off Brantley's bat that was gone.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #112 on: April 25, 2017, 07:50:10 pm »
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« Reply #113 on: April 25, 2017, 07:51:06 pm »
Tying run to the plate. One out.
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« Reply #114 on: April 25, 2017, 07:51:55 pm »
Someone else should be finishing this game.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
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« Reply #117 on: April 25, 2017, 07:54:04 pm »
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« Reply #119 on: April 25, 2017, 07:56:26 pm »
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« Reply #121 on: April 25, 2017, 07:56:45 pm »
Costly win. Fingers crossed for both Altuve and Teo.
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« Reply #122 on: April 25, 2017, 07:57:09 pm »
Great game, kind of. My nerves are shot. Hoping for good news.
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« Reply #126 on: April 25, 2017, 11:36:17 pm »
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Someone else should be finishing this game.

I disagree. Keuchel earned the right to try to finish it. If I had been Hinch, I wouldn't have let Keuchel lose the game, so had the winning run come to the plate, I'd have brought in Giles. But it didn't.
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« Reply #127 on: April 26, 2017, 09:41:38 am »
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I disagree. Keuchel earned the right to try to finish it. If I had been Hinch, I wouldn't have let Keuchel lose the game, so had the winning run come to the plate, I'd have brought in Giles. But it didn't.

I hear you, and normally I agree.  But after cruising along through the 7th with 80 pitches, he threw 15 in the bizarre 8th where they put some good swings on him.  I saw no reason to let him throw 22 more in the 9th.  And you know I'm not a "pitch count" guy.  I just would have let him hit the shower after a relatively easy game, and let a fresh arm finish off the last three. 

And I'm sure the part about losing the game was what Hinch told him when he went out there with two out and a man on.  "This is your last hitter, one way or another".  I'm glad it worked out. 
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« Reply #128 on: April 26, 2017, 09:54:42 am »
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I hear you, and normally I agree.  But after cruising along through the 7th with 80 pitches, he threw 15 in the bizarre 8th where they put some good swings on him.  I saw no reason to let him throw 22 more in the 9th.  And you know I'm not a "pitch count" guy.  I just would have let him hit the shower after a relatively easy game, and let a fresh arm finish off the last three. 

And I'm sure the part about losing the game was what Hinch told him when he went out there with two out and a man on.  "This is your last hitter, one way or another".  I'm glad it worked out.

You make some great points. His stuff had started to flatten out in the 8th. Seeing the world through the eyes of a pitcher, I naturally want the pitcher to get a shot at a rare complete game.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #129 on: April 26, 2017, 02:36:44 pm »
Best play of the game last night was Reddick flipping the ball from his glove to his bare hand after robbing Kipnis - better than any Valbuena bat flip.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #130 on: April 26, 2017, 02:49:14 pm »
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I hear you, and normally I agree.  But after cruising along through the 7th with 80 pitches, he threw 15 in the bizarre 8th where they put some good swings on him.  I saw no reason to let him throw 22 more in the 9th.  And you know I'm not a "pitch count" guy.  I just would have let him hit the shower after a relatively easy game, and let a fresh arm finish off the last three. 

And I'm sure the part about losing the game was what Hinch told him when he went out there with two out and a man on.  "This is your last hitter, one way or another".  I'm glad it worked out. 

Im with HH on this too, especially considering that weird B8.   I was really surprised to see him back out there for the 9th.
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Re: Astros at Indians, April 25, 2017
« Reply #131 on: April 26, 2017, 03:32:00 pm »
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Im with HH on this too, especially considering that weird B8.   I was really surprised to see him back out there for the 9th.

HH made some valid points as usual. However, I still think that Luhnow did the right thing by allowing Keuchel to stay in the game. Giles has been great in save situations, but in non-save situations, not so much.  Obviously, last night was a save situation, but you never know what's going to happen when you run a new pitcher out there in a clean inning, even one as good as Giles. We knew what Keuchel was last night, while Giles was an unknown.
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