Game Seven

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

I hate to admit it but I think the Fucked Cubs win it. Hope not... maybe Kluber can summon a Bumgarnerian effort and Hendricks chokes.

[Mr. Happy]

For the sake of Mrs. Happy, I hope that you are wrong, but I agree with you. I think whichever team scores first will win.

[BudGirl]

That totally favors the Cubs since they get the first at-bat.  But, I think you are correct, that the FTC are going to win.  And I don't have to like it.  If that happens do you know how insufferable the USA will be?  It could be worse than what could happen on Tuesday.

[Bench]

Regardless of who scores first, I think whoever takes the lead last will win.

[Fredia]

that therory is amazing. how long did you contemplate it. are you having it published?

[Bench]

I just self-published it.

I hope Kluber can be the same guy he has been all off-season.  Unlike the Cubs, the Indians star relief arms are all fully rested.  If Kluber can get through 6 solid, the Indians will have a decided advantage. 

[chuck]

I remember Ashby's puzzling over why it is that the team that scores first is statistically more likely to win. Also, why limit the Astros' Mt Rushmore to four players.

I'm gonna miss that guy.

[juliogotay]

I just self-published it.

I hope Kluber can be the same guy he has been all off-season.  Unlike the Cubs, the Indians star relief arms are all fully rested.  If Kluber can get through 6 solid, the Indians will have a decided advantage.

I will take the Wahoos too. Heard a stat last night the team with a 3-2 game lead won most of the time.

[juliogotay]

That totally favors the Cubs since they get the first at-bat.  But, I think you are correct, that the FTC are going to win.  And I don't have to like it.  If that happens do you know how insufferable the USA will be?  It could be worse than what could happen on Tuesday.

I'm pretty sure somebody insufferable will win Tuesday although I wouldn't be surprised to see the loser  contest it.

[MusicMan]

I will take the Wahoos too. Heard a stat last night the team with a 3-2 game lead won most of the time.

I felt a great disturbance... as though millions of math teachers cried out at once...


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[Bench]

I do think that the Indians would have better mathematical odds if they had Lebron throw out the first pitch tonight instead of Thome. 

[Fredia]

i watched major league it should have been wild thing

[Navin R Johnson]

Cleveland fans spending the last 5 months laughing about the Warriors choking a 3-1 lead to the Cavs is about to come back and bite them.   Shit.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Alex Rodriguez is a slimy fucker, Pete Rose seem less fucked up next to Alex.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Pete Rose: "Al Capone was only  nine years old last time the Cubs won."

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Pete could have said Teddy Roosevelt was 51 the last time the Cubs won the World Series. Or how women wouldn't get to vote  for a president until 11 years after the last time the Cubs won the World Series. Instead him mentions Al Capone.

[HudsonHawk]

I think whichever team scores first will win.

Well, let's hope not. 

[NeilT]

Those are the Cubs we all know and love.

[MusicMan]

Pete Rose: "Al Capone was only  nine years old last time the Cubs won."

Tax evaders stick together.


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[chuck]

What was Marisnick's OPS again?

[NeilT]

What was Marisnick's OPS again?

I forgot they traded Fowler for Marisnick.

[MusicMan]

Bud Selig: "the winner of the All Star Game will determine home field advantage in the World Series"

Cub fans: "LOLNOPE"


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[juliogotay]

I forgot they traded Fowler for Marisnick.

Marisnick came from  Miami?

[HudsonHawk]

I forgot they traded Fowler for Marisnick.

They traded Fowler for Luis Valbuena.

[juliogotay]

Pete could have said Teddy Roosevelt was 51 the last time the Cubs won the World Series. Or how women wouldn't get to vote  for a president until 11 years after the last time the Cubs won the World Series. Instead him mentions Al Capone.

We are losing our heritage. Capone is as "Chicago" as deep-dish pizza.

[MusicMan]

Wow.


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[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Lester's first name should be Moe.

[NeilT]

Lester's first name should be Moe.

It's not?

[MusicMan]

That is some serious motherfucking redemption right there.


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[HudsonHawk]

That is some serious motherfucking redemption right there.


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One day when you're telling you grandchildren about 2016, the conversation will turn to baseball.  No one will care that the Cubs won the World Series, but they'll say "Grandpa, did you REALLY get to see David Ross play?"

[MusicMan]

One day when you're telling you grandchildren about 2016, the conversation will turn to baseball.  No one will care that the Cubs won the World Series, but they'll say "Grandpa, did you REALLY get to see David Ross play?"

The last time the Cubs won the World Series, David Ross was just a rookie.


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[austro]

One day when you're telling you grandchildren about 2016, the conversation will turn to baseball.  No one will care that the Cubs won the World Series, but they'll say "Grandpa, did you REALLY get to see David Ross play?"

It must be something to homer in what you know will be your last game.

[HudsonHawk]

It must be something to homer in what you know will be your last game.

When you're an American Hero like Ross is, sometimes you feel magnanimous. 

[BudGirl]

Apparently Wild Thing is in the house. 

[austro]

Well, this is certainly the kind of entertaining game you want for the last game of the season.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Amazing.

[MusicMan]

I mean.. Rajai fucking Davis??

[NeilT]

There is just nothing better than CubFan face shots in the stands post disaster.

[BizidyDizidy]

Is there any clearer proof there is a God and He loves us?

[hostros7]

They traded Fowler for Luis Valbuena.

Don't forget Straily.


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[BudGirl]

Don't forget Straily.


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who?

[hostros7]

Baez, WTF?


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[MusicMan]

Did... did Baez just bunt on his own WITH TWO STRIKES?

[hostros7]

Lindor is a bad man.


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[chuck]

I had no confidence they'd escape that leadoff walk.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Chapman back out for the bottom of the ninth?!?!?

[VirtualBob]

Well, this is certainly the kind of entertaining game you want for the last game of the season.

Indeed. If only Odor could make another error now.

[MusicMan]

Chapman back out for the bottom of the ninth?!?!?

And Arrieta warming.  I knew their pen was shaky, but I didn't know Maddon had them all killed before the game.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Son of a Bitch. Rain.

[HudsonHawk]

The Indians' radio announcer is pretty good.

[MusicMan]

I can't imagine being a fan of either team in this game. I'd be completely unable to function.


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[HudsonHawk]

Why can't the Astros ever get a player like Zobrist?

[MusicMan]

Why can't the Astros ever get a player like Zobrist?

You are a bad person.


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[JaneDoe]

Why can't the Astros ever get a player like Zobrist?

Shut. Your. Piehole.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Why can't the Astros ever get a player like Zobrist?

Huff.

[MusicMan]

 Surely Davis couldn't tie it with a home run.

Again.


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[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Still, FTC.

[HudsonHawk]

Well, we now live a lifetime in which the Cubs have won a World Series.  It's a brand new day.

[MusicMan]

I love how Rizzo made sure to tuck the ball in his pocket before he ran to the dogpile. That dude wasn't losing his piece of history.


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[Nate in IA]

a tip of the cap to Theo.   I would say he knows what he's doing.

[HudsonHawk]

a tip of the cap to Theo.   I would say he knows what he's doing.

True.  Give a reasonably smart baseball guy an infinite amount of money, and they can work wonders. 

[Ron Brand]

Christ, I hate the Cubs. Almost everyone around me on a reasonably daily basis is a Cub fan, some of them bandwagoners and some of them with ties to Chicago or the midwest and they've been out in the open like roaches when the light gets snapped on. I've even got friends who work for the fucking Cubs. And now they're not going to shut up for what? Months? Until next season ends and they have something else to whine about?

All this 'Cubbie' this and 'Cubbie' that, and 'Fly the W!' Nobody heard of that shit until they got on their roll this year.

Fuck the Cubs.

[BudGirl]

Christ, I hate the Cubs. Almost everyone around me on a reasonably daily basis is a Cub fan, some of them bandwagoners and some of them with ties to Chicago or the midwest and they've been out in the open like roaches when the light gets snapped on. I've even got friends who work for the fucking Cubs. And now they're not going to shut up for what? Months? Until next season ends and they have something else to whine about?

All this 'Cubbie' this and 'Cubbie' that, and 'Fly the W!' Nobody heard of that shit until they got on their roll this year.

Fuck the Cubs.

No shit.  There are so many more idiot cub fans than before.  I'd put money that they didn't watch a single game in the regular season.

[Bench]

Alex Rodriguez is a slimy fucker, Pete Rose seem less fucked up next to Alex.

Just before the show’s production meeting prior to Game 2 of the World Series last Wednesday afternoon, in a chilly, faux-wood paneled trailer in the shadows of Cleveland’s Progressive Field, Rodriguez huddled with a Fox researcher, discerning what opponents batted against the curveball of Indians starter Trevor Bauer. Rose, meanwhile, asked people if they enjoyed seafood, then revealed the masticated contents of his mouth. See it?

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[Mr. Happy]

Who scored first?

[JaneDoe]

Christ, I hate the Cubs. Almost everyone around me on a reasonably daily basis is a Cub fan, some of them bandwagoners and some of them with ties to Chicago or the midwest and they've been out in the open like roaches when the light gets snapped on. I've even got friends who work for the fucking Cubs. And now they're not going to shut up for what? Months? Until next season ends and they have something else to whine about?

All this 'Cubbie' this and 'Cubbie' that, and 'Fly the W!' Nobody heard of that shit until they got on their roll this year.

Fuck the Cubs.

Amen

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Nothing has changed in my life. Fuck 'em.

[Fredia]

now that bit of nasty business is over on to the Astros next season

[MusicMan]

Who scored first?

Probably whoever got back to the hotel first.


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[Nate in IA]

True.  Give a reasonably smart baseball guy an infinite amount of money, and they can work wonders.

They have less than twice the payroll of the Astros so hardly an infinite amount of money.

Now pity the Dodgers....

http://www.espn.com/mlb/team/salaries/_/name/chc/chicago-cubs

[MusicMan]

They have less than twice the payroll of the Astros so hardly an infinite amount of money.

Forget it. He's rolling.



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[Nate Colbert]

They have less than twice the payroll of the Astros so hardly an infinite amount of money.

Now pity the Dodgers....

http://www.espn.com/mlb/team/salaries/_/name/chc/chicago-cubs

Let's at least use some remotely accurate numbers: the Astros payroll was around $99MM (give or take a million or two) and NOT the silly $69MM figure shown in that link. The Cubs I believe were somewhere in the $170MM vicinity (ranking around 6th among all MLB teams).

[HudsonHawk]

They have less than twice the payroll of the Astros so hardly an infinite amount of money.

They could easily triple the Astros payroll if they wanted.  If you're trying to paint the Cubs as some struggling mid-market team who through sheer grit and determination found some new innovative way to acquire guys like Lester, Zobrist, Heyward and Chapman, you're seriously barking up the wrong tree. 

[Nate in IA]

They could easily triple the Astros payroll if they wanted.  If you're trying to paint the Cubs as some struggling mid-market team who through sheer grit and determination found some new innovative way to acquire guys like Lester, Zobrist, Heyward and Chapman, you're seriously barking up the wrong tree.

No, not trying to argue that at all.  Just taking a little issue with your "infinite dollars" thesis.   Seemed like sour grapes to me.

Do you think given an equivalent amount of money as the Cubs spent anyone could win the world series with as much regularity as Theo?

[HudsonHawk]

No, not trying to argue that at all.  Just taking a little issue with your "infinite dollars" thesis.   Seemed like sour grapes to me.

Sigh.  You're right, they do not have an "infinite" amount of money.  That would be illogical as that number does not exist, and the Cubs' payroll certainly can be calculated with real numbers.  I didn't really think anyone would take that to mean "infinity" in the literal sense. 

Do you think given an equivalent amount of money as the Cubs spent anyone could win the world series with as much regularity as Theo?

I think if any team gives Theo the amount of money the Red Sox and Cubs have, they'll regularly win, and likely win a World Series or two.  The Cubs have always had money.  What they have now, that they didn't in the past, is smart people running their organization.  Having money doesn't guarantee anything, nor does having smart people.  But the combination of the two certainly gives you big boost. 

[Nate in IA]

I think if any team gives Theo the amount of money the Red Sox and Cubs have, they'll regularly win, and likely win a World Series or two.  The Cubs have always had money.  What they have now, that they didn't in the past, is smart people running their organization.  Having money doesn't guarantee anything, nor does having smart people.  But the combination of the two certainly gives you big boost.

I fully agree with this.  Hence my tip o' the cap...

I understand the past animosity towards the Cubs and I still think Wrigley should be blown up and that CubFan is insufferable.    All that said, this is NOT the team the Astros used to play.     Dare I say it, they are almost admirable.   I had a hard time coming up with any animosity towards either team in this World Series and for once was just able to enjoy great baseball.

[WVastro]

I fully agree with this.  Hence my tip o' the cap...

I understand the past animosity towards the Cubs and I still think Wrigley should be blown up and that CubFan is insufferable.    All that said, this is NOT the team the Astros used to play.     Dare I say it, they are almost admirable.   I had a hard time coming up with any animosity towards either team in this World Series and for once was just able to enjoy great baseball.

I envy you. I honestly can't think of any really good reason that I hate this result other than I do. It's visceral.

[HudsonHawk]

I fully agree with this.  Hence my tip o' the cap...

I understand the past animosity towards the Cubs and I still think Wrigley should be blown up and that CubFan is insufferable.    All that said, this is NOT the team the Astros used to play.     Dare I say it, they are almost admirable.   I had a hard time coming up with any animosity towards either team in this World Series and for once was just able to enjoy great baseball.

So we're aligned.  My point all along was to comment on what spending money (particularly lots of it) wisely can accomplish, not to denigrate the accomplishment.  I've said all along, this is not your father's Cub team. 

Like any team, they have guys who seem to be good guys, and guys who seem to be complete tools.  Every team has them.  And yes, CubFan is already insufferable.  In some whacked way, perhaps this will tone them down.  At least I hope. 

[roadrunner]

Chapman is a tool, so if you're looking for a reason to hate the Cubs then there is your reason.