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« on: October 03, 2016, 07:45:09 pm »
The "Today's Game Era (1988-2016)" ballot* was released today with the following 10 names:

  • Harold Baines
  • Albert Belle
  • Will Clark
  • Orel Hershiser
  • Mark McGwire
  • Davey Johnson
  • Lou Piniella
  • John Schuerholz
  • George Steinbrenner
  • Bud Selig

Only worthy name in my view is Schuerholz.



*Not to be confused with the "Modern Baseball Era (1970-1987)" ballot, the "Golden Days Era (1950-1969)" ballot, or the "Early Baseball Era (1871-1949)" ballot. Voting for each era is on the following schedule:

Today's Game – 2016, 2018, 2021, 2023
Modern Baseball – 2017, 2019, 2022, 2024
Golden Days – 2020, 2025
Early Baseball – 2020, 2030

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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2016, 08:00:24 pm »
 I'm surprised at how little support Steinbrenner has had.
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2016, 08:27:25 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 03, 2016, 08:00:24 pm
I'm surprised at how little support Steinbrenner has had.

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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2016, 01:06:49 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2016, 10:02:16 pm »
Link to Ryan Thibodaux's (@NotMrTibbs) HOF ballot tracker.
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2016, 03:06:30 pm »
Confused pandering asshat of a Boston writer radio talk show host who isn't voting for Bagwell because...ROIDZ!!!...but is voting for Manny Ramirez. That whole HOF voter purge didn't go nearly deep enough, did it?

Ladies and gents, the extremely rational thoughts of Tony ("I votes with my eyes and gut") Massarotti.
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2016, 05:59:41 pm »
Quote from: Nate Colbert on November 23, 2016, 03:06:30 pm
Confused pandering asshat of a Boston writer radio talk show host who isn't voting for Bagwell because...ROIDZ!!!...but is voting for Manny Ramirez. That whole HOF voter purge didn't go nearly deep enough, did it?

Ladies and gents, the extremely rational thoughts of Tony ("I votes with my eyes and gut") Massarotti.

That guy is truly too stupid to breath. He's stealing oxygen. If that guy is allowed to vote, there  are literally no qualifications to vote for HOF.
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2016, 06:13:25 pm »
Quote from: Nate Colbert on October 03, 2016, 07:45:09 pm
The "Today's Game Era (1988-2016)" ballot* was released today with the following 10 names:

  • Harold Baines
  • Albert Belle
  • Will Clark
  • Orel Hershiser
  • Mark McGwire
  • Davey Johnson
  • Lou Piniella
  • John Schuerholz
  • George Steinbrenner
  • Bud Selig

Only worthy name in my view is Schuerholz.



*Not to be confused with the "Modern Baseball Era (1970-1987)" ballot, the "Golden Days Era (1950-1969)" ballot, or the "Early Baseball Era (1871-1949)" ballot. Voting for each era is on the following schedule:

Today's Game – 2016, 2018, 2021, 2023
Modern Baseball – 2017, 2019, 2022, 2024
Golden Days – 2020, 2025
Early Baseball – 2020, 2030

Schuerholz and some asshole elected to HOF.
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2016, 08:13:10 pm »
Quote from: Nate Colbert on December 04, 2016, 06:13:25 pm
Schuerholz and some asshole elected to HOF.
Asshole? You're too kind. He is a lowlife greasy pig fucker.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2016, 10:57:36 pm »
Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on December 04, 2016, 08:13:10 pm
Asshole? You're too kind. He is a lowlife greasy pig fucker.
This is a weird situation. I'm sitting here hoping you're talking about Steinbrenner being elected to the HoF, because if not him, that means Selig, which would just be... grotesque. And fucked up.
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2016, 09:41:18 am »
Funny how the steroid era execs get their praise but the players don't.
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2016, 10:03:10 am »
Quote from: Bench on December 05, 2016, 09:41:18 am
Funny how the steroid era execs get their praise but the players don't.

I mean, the players broke the rules.  Not like the owners who engaged in collusion on three separate occasions.
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2016, 10:03:46 am »
Personally, I hope that Selig is unable to fly out of Milwaukee due to some natural disaster, and the HOF tells him he will not be inducted if he can't make it.
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2016, 10:46:27 am »
I hope he gets booed off the fucking stage.
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2016, 11:13:48 am »
Does anyone besides Astros fans hate Selig? Seems to me he receives (with the exception of our ilk) universal acclaim.
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2016, 11:43:07 am »
Quote from: Knoxbanedoodle on December 05, 2016, 11:13:48 am
Does anyone besides Astros fans hate Selig? Seems to me he receives (with the exception of our ilk) universal acclaim.
Steroid Era
All-Star game
Excessive inter-league play
Brewer favoritism/COI
General cluelessness

Pretty sure fans all around baseball hate him. The owners sure love him though.
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2016, 11:52:32 am »
Quote from: Knoxbanedoodle on December 05, 2016, 11:13:48 am
Does anyone besides Astros fans hate Selig? Seems to me he receives (with the exception of our ilk) universal acclaim.

Keith Olbermann is apparently no big fan:

https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/805549400357486593

Quote:  "Second stupidest election of the year. Between the strike he forced in 1994 and the PEDs he ignored, Bud Selig nearly destroyed baseball."
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2016, 07:06:13 pm »
He wanted to get rid of the Minnesota team so I'm pretty sure Twins fans hate him.
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2016, 07:47:32 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on December 05, 2016, 10:03:46 am
Personally, I hope that Selig is unable to fly out of Milwaukee due to some natural disaster, and the HOF tells him he will not be inducted if he can't make it.

Just tell him to go to Canton instead. He can even call it a home ceremony.
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2016, 11:38:31 pm »
With approx. 17% of the vote in, Bagwell currently at 90.5%. Last year at roughly the same vote level, Bagwell was at just 82.9%.

(All per Mr. Thibodaux and his indispensable vote tracker)
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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2016, 08:12:37 am »
I figured out there's a =/- 7% difference between the posted ballots and the final ballot totals.
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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2016, 10:33:21 am »
The problem with Bagwell is that the private votes killed him last year.  Whereas Bonds & Clemens saw a pretty even split (-3.9% and -2.0%, respectively), Jeff's percentage on private ballots was 14.3% lower than public ballots (-12.6% in 2015).  If all of his votes from last year hold over, he'll need to pick up 12 additional votes to get in.  He's gained 4 new votes, so it's entirely possible that he reaches that threshold, but it's still in breath-holding mode at this point.   
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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2016, 10:40:18 pm »
With 12 returning voters having now flipped their vote to yes and the 11 new voters all saying aye, Baggy's vote total has now increased to 93.8% with 33.6% of the estimated vote in. He was running at just 82.1% at the same time last year. 
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« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2016, 10:30:20 am »
Quote from: Nate Colbert on December 30, 2016, 10:40:18 pm
With 12 returning voters having now flipped their vote to yes and the 11 new voters all saying aye, Baggy's vote total has now increased to 93.8% with 33.6% of the estimated vote in. He was running at just 82.1% at the same time last year.

We need to subtract one from the flipped as one of Baggy's voters from last year said he never received his ballot.


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« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2016, 02:44:15 pm »
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We need to subtract one from the flipped as one of Baggy's voters from last year said he never received his ballot.

Fucking Russians. This is going too far.
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« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2017, 02:18:38 pm »
Murray Chass Jon Heyman on not voting for Bagwell again.
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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2017, 01:37:41 pm »
Jorge Posada, huh. Nice ballot.
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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2017, 04:15:55 pm »
4 out of 5 Boston Globe writers prefer Bagwell for those who have HOF votes
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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2017, 05:54:24 pm »
Quote from: Duman on January 05, 2017, 04:15:55 pm
4 out of 5 Boston Globe writers prefer Bagwell for those who have HOF votes
And the one that didn't is career troll.
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« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2017, 11:23:59 am »
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Murray Chass Jon Heyman on not voting for Bagwell again.

If I never meet/see John Heyman in public, I'll be punting him right in the nuts before introducing myself. That guy is a grade A fucktard.
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« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2017, 08:51:31 am »
And that bitterest of bitter old men says fuck you to everyone...

Ryan Thibodaux ‏@NotMrTibbs  53 minutes ago
Murray Chass, who voted for just Griffey in 2016, submitted a blank ballot.
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« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2017, 01:05:44 pm »
Dallas News has three voters; Tim Cowlishaw, Rick Gosselin and Evan Grant. All three voted for Bagwell, Bonds, Clemens, Edgar Martinez, Raines and  Pudge. Cowlishaw did not vote for Hoffman or Mussina. Gosselin took a pass on Guerrero while Grant abstained from voting for Schilling. Only Gosselin voted for Lee Smith and only Cowlishaw for Kent. 
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« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2017, 06:42:52 pm »
Quote from: juliogotay on January 08, 2017, 01:05:44 pm
Dallas News has three voters; Tim Cowlishaw, Rick Gosselin and Evan Grant. All three voted for Bagwell, Bonds, Clemens, Edgar Martinez, Raines and  Pudge. Cowlishaw did not vote for Hoffman or Mussina. Gosselin took a pass on Guerrero while Grant abstained from voting for Schilling. Only Gosselin voted for Lee Smith and only Cowlishaw for Kent.
This is a riddle, right? Or one of those word puzzles? "Which writer voted for both Mike Mussina AND Vladimir Guerrero?"
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« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2017, 12:46:43 am »
Quote from: Reuben on January 08, 2017, 06:42:52 pm
This is a riddle, right? Or one of those word puzzles? "Which writer voted for both Mike Mussina AND Vladimir Guerrero?"

No. It's just an ACT question and the answer is clearly C.
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« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2017, 05:02:00 pm »
Woohoo!!!

Bagwell, Raines, Rodriguez all get in.

Bagwell finished at 86.2%, just ahead of Raines at 86.0%. Ivan finished at 76.0%.

2016 vs 2017 vote totals for some other former Astros: Jeff Kent (16.6% vs 16.7%), Billy Wagner (10.5% vs 10.2%), Roger Clemens (45.2% to 54.1%) and Curt Schilling (52.3% vs 45%).
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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2017, 05:05:05 pm »
Technically two Astros!
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« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2017, 05:19:27 pm »
At last! 
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« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2017, 05:25:34 pm »
Baggy you the man
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« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2017, 05:35:46 pm »
Well-well-deserved! Congrats Baggy!!
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« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2017, 05:40:50 pm »
WOOHOO!!

About time the greatest Astro ever made it into the HOF.
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« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2017, 05:49:40 pm »
So happy for Baggy. It's a good day to be an Astros fan.
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« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2017, 05:55:04 pm »
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« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2017, 06:33:03 pm »
About fucking time.
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« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2017, 07:00:19 pm »
Great news. I was afraid that it wouldn't happen. Well deserved.
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« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2017, 07:54:05 pm »
Awesome!  Nice to see Baggy finally get his due.
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« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2017, 08:19:26 pm »
Congrats Baggy!
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« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2017, 10:25:19 pm »
WOO HOO!
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« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2017, 02:11:06 am »
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WOO HOO!

Indeed! I hope that he seamlessly threads "travelling horseshit show" into his acceptance speech and looks at FYB when he says it.
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« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2017, 04:33:32 pm »
Also loved his line the went something like "If you're looking at your upcoming games and can' find any cupcakes,  then YOU are the cupcake"

Yeah Bags! Going to make the trek up there for the ceremony and my first visit to Cooperstown.
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« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2017, 04:42:08 pm »
After Melvin's tracking I figured it was going to happen but beyond excited for Bagwell.  I was watching some videos and reading some stuff and it just rather pissed me off how it took those stupid voters 7 years to get it right.  Seriously, if I was that bad at my job I should be fired.

Here's to Bagwell finally getting what he deserves!!!
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« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2017, 11:32:37 pm »
Quote from: BudGirl on January 19, 2017, 04:42:08 pm
After Melvin's tracking I figured it was going to happen but beyond excited for Bagwell.  I was watching some videos and reading some stuff and it just rather pissed me off how it took those stupid voters 7 years to get it right.  Seriously, if I was that bad at my job I should be fired.

Here's to Bagwell finally getting what he deserves!!!
It really blows my mind. How could frank Thomas be a no doubter and baggy not get in on the same ballet? Why did pudge get in on his first try? There's more ped evidence against him then baggy ever has. People upset about vlad not getting, why are we so sure he didn't use peds?

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